For all you anti police types out there

[7th trump]

http://chrishernandezauthor.com/2014/08/24/a-dose-of-reality-for-ferguson-missouri/

[Hitch]

Right on 7th. One of the best articles I've read about policing in awhile. Everything in this article is 100% true based upon my experiences.

[Celtic Rogue]

I am not anti police... I am anti thuggery! Police protecting citizens rights are more than welcome. Bullies, liars and arrogant fools are not. Police that are trained and show respect for individuals. remaining calm and focused are what is needed. Not gun slinging yahoos throwing their weight around looking for any opportunity to fire their weapon. Its a rotten job that i personally would not want to have.

[Hitch]

Its a rotten job that i personally would not want to have.

Amen to that. That's the problem though, seems police work now only attracts certain types. If you don't want the job, ask who does?

[7th trump]

Right on 7th. One of the best articles I've read about policing in awhile. Everything in this article is 100% true based upon my experiences.
Its the article I've been waiting for to show these people on this forum they need to stop allowing their emotions to rule their judgment.
I think its a damn good article and it needed to be posted on this forum.

[osoab]

No Jail For Oklahoma Cop Who Lied About Beating Motorist (http://informationliberation.com/?id=48194)




In Westfield, Massachusetts, an Adams police officer was arrested last Monday (http://www.berkshireeagle.com/news/ci_26375437/adams-police-officer-charged-using-false-identity-fill) for allegedly using a false identity to fill a prescription for Ritalin. Officer Thomas Cook allegedly used a drivers' license he may have stolen from a suspect during an arrest. When the pharmacist called the name on the drivers' license to report the prescription was ready, the person denied having anything to do with it, so the pharmacist notified Westfield Police, who arrested Cook when he showed up bearing the other man's license. He is charged with uttering a false prescription, identity fraud, police or witness intimidation, receiving stolen property, and attempting to commit a crime.


In Houston, a Houston police officer was arrested last Thursday (http://abc13.com/news/houston-cop-arrested-in-drug-bust/275441) in a federal investigation of a one-kilo cocaine deal. Officer Jasmine Renee Bonner now faces cocaine possession and conspiracy charges. She has been relieved of duties pending outcome of an internal investigation and was jailed on a one million dollar bond.


In San Juan, Puerto Rico,16 Puerto Rico police officers pleaded guilty Monday (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/25/doj-police-sold-drugs-burglarized-criminals-home) to belonging to a crew that got together "to steal money, property, and drugs for their personal enrichment." They also admitted selling the drugs themselves and to taking bribes. They pleaded guilty to charges ranging from robbery to extortion. A sentencing date has yet to be set.


In Trenton, New Jersey, a former state prison guard was sentenced last Wednesday (http://www.app.com/story/news/crime/jersey-mayhem/2014/08/20/former-corrections-officer-sentenced-drug-case/14355077) to 15 years in prison for his role in a cocaine trafficking conspiracy. Eugene Braswell, 35, was arrested in 2008 in connection with the shipment of 10 kilos of cocaine from Houston to New Jersey. The investigation into Braswell's activities began in 2007, when he shot and killed a man outside his Newark home.

2 brothers cleared of attempted murder sue city, CPD detectives (http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/29340124-418/2-brothers-cleared-of-attempted-murder-sue-city-cpd-detectives.html#.U_t2AaOGffg)

[StreetsOfGold]

The most dangerous unarmed people are the ones who are possessed by devils, which is becoming more and more common.
Of course, those who reject the scriptures relinquish this to "mental instability" since they refuse to accept possession as a reality.

A man possessed by devil's can have the strength of many men and are (IMO) more dangerous to the average police officer than anyone with just a pistol.

Mark 5:3 Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains:
Mark 5:4 Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him.

[midnight rambler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVmGWLsn0iM

[midnight rambler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqIew2DheCw

[midnight rambler]

There are delusions and fantasy, and then there are facts.

http://www.copblock.org/

[midnight rambler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FFlWGeb_aw

[midnight rambler]

Oh BOOHOO!!! Check out the crocodile tears* of the dumbass deputy who fucking shot the dog in the back of the head and then allowed it to suffer -

*he was bawling 'cause he got shit-canned


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYlt6Y_-d54

What a real piece of shit, the dog owner had to drown his dog to put her out of her misery -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwA9n-YOPIY

[7th trump]

Oh BOOHOO!!! Check out the crocodile tears* of the dumbass deputy who fucking shot the dog in the back of the head and then allowed it to suffer -

*he was bawling 'cause he got shit-canned


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYlt6Y_-d54

What a real piece of shit, the dog owner had to drown his dog to put her out of her misery -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwA9n-YOPIY

The funny thing about all this is.............when the trouble finds midnight....he'll call the police for protection.....Baaaahaaaaaa!

[midnight rambler]

Handcuffed suspect (IN CUSTODY) murdered -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AG_-EXd9Es

[midnight rambler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6S7LRrCru8

[midnight rambler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSPhC916GQM

[7th trump]

Why all full of hate midnight?

You do realize you're making a jack out of yourself...right?
Do you always act like a child when you don't get your way?

[midnight rambler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K3dT3R9IzU

[midnight rambler]

I'm PROUD TO BE A HATER - I hate wickedness.

[midnight rambler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L71Uj4yVX8E

[osoab]

Why all full of hate midnight?

You do realize you're making a jack out of yourself...right?
Do you always act like a child when you don't get your way?

You just don't like others questioning your blind faith. The same blind faith that you push upon others with zeal.

[midnight rambler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CicanQ18d8

[osoab]

I saw three of them pulling a speed trap today. Must have been getting in the monthly quota, time is almost up.

[midnight rambler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMDIK4bOpwk

[midnight rambler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILkPRlRSEY4

[midnight rambler]

Nothing more than "a tragic ACCIDENT"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDerqyvUZeQ

[midnight rambler]

Give a low IQ dope a badge and a gun and that renders them having unquestionable authority and judgement -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB9J6onHSSM

[midnight rambler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dAyMuEsBl0

[midnight rambler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hObRFExW_Xc

[midnight rambler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKZ12GoT6T0

[7th trump]

http://chrishernandezauthor.com/2014/08/24/a-dose-of-reality-for-ferguson-missouri/

[7th trump]

Midnights gotta problem.
Bet he calls the police when trouble finds him.

[midnight rambler]

Some of these incidents are just heart rending, this 80 y.o. was shot while in bed, NO 'DRUGS' were found -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZFlIK-zAO8

[midnight rambler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0neCiqGyccw

[7th trump]

You are just slowing down the site with all your bullshit midnight....you are taking up bandwidth because you are acting like a spoiled rotten child.


Gee you wouldn't expect the police to act the way they do because of the way thugs treat others do you?
You want to blame the police on everything.

let me guess you have it out for the police because you had a run in with them...and lost!
Gee I don't know............maybe someone who glorifies the communist goat worshippers like do thought maybe you could get away with something....didn't happen did it comrade.
Is that why you hate America so much?

[midnight rambler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkRct0YTibE

[midnight rambler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSo37wpKaNI

[7th trump]

Hahahahahahaha....look at him go.
Run forest run!!!!

[midnight rambler]

Cops are not only the paragons of virtue, they're also the paragons of compassion -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiN7Y1ziqhs

[7th trump]

hahahahaha.....midnight....keep getting my thread page after page.

[7th trump]

http://chrishernandezauthor.com/2014/08/24/a-dose-of-reality-for-ferguson-missouri/

See I can do this to.

[midnight rambler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6ewOUfnKuA

[midnight rambler]

They love animals too...love to shoot 'em and watch 'em suffer


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugXBsDZsBro

[7th trump]

http://chrishernandezauthor.com/2014/08/24/a-dose-of-reality-for-ferguson-missouri/

[midnight rambler]

The paragons of virtue NEVER EVER falsify reports


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tDZlkWt5mg

[7th trump]

http://chrishernandezauthor.com/2014/08/24/a-dose-of-reality-for-ferguson-missouri/.......

[Hitch]

Midnight, I think you are being guided the wrong way man.

Whether you believe me or not. I was there. You guys need to chill out and relax, imo.

[Dogman]

Midnight, I think you are being guided the wrong way man.

Whether you believe me or not. I was there. You guys need to chill out and relax, imo.

Or get a private room and work it out between them! Hissy fits are not becoming!

Lmao

[midnight rambler]

The paragons of virtue love children too...love to beat on 'em


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xin63Qu7B5Y

[midnight rambler]

Midnight, I think you are being guided the wrong way man.

Whether you believe me or not. I was there. You guys need to chill out and relax, imo.

As I've advised you before, I'm quite sure I've spent more time doing ride-alongs over the course of ten years than the total time you spent on the beat.

[midnight rambler]

More loving on...er, beating on kids


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNX4_wYNZsg

[midnight rambler]

Some 'community policing' going on here


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57r0xRR-Lto

[midnight rambler]

Another exemplary cop


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLOPV31sKNo

[midnight rambler]

Another bully with a badge, the trooper never advises the guy with the camera that he's under arrest which would be the ONLY reason he would be compelled to provide an 'ID' - another CLEAR example that they make up shit as they go along


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdNO10dNqKA

[midnight rambler]

Still more compassionate cops metin' out some of that special cop lovin'

<br>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU5fAGOVvEM

[midnight rambler]

The donut munchers have huge respect for the media


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbQUltNOqo8

[midnight rambler]

They just have tons of love to mete out for anyone with a camera


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfmjlEHA4Ug

[midnight rambler]

Don't give me any lip OR I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU ASSHOLE

This is a particularly good videoed incident, the end result is that the jury acquitted this PASTOR


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYjI138u1z0

[midnight rambler]

http://chrishernandezauthr.com/2014/08/24/a-dose-of-reality-for-ferguson-missour (http://chrishernandezauthor.com/2014/08/24/a-dose-of-reality-for-ferguson-missouri/)

See I can do this to.

The thing is that you've only got this ONE line of horseshit that you keep posting whereas there are so many youtubers posting strictly bad out of control cop videos you can't count them all. lol

[midnight rambler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8r1qehjp-E

[midnight rambler]

Taser to the head of this teenager without any warning, good shot! /sarc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBpJD5JnaHc

[midnight rambler]

Tasers are great for killing kids too!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXaXn7471vs

[midnight rambler]

Tasers are great therapy for a grieving parent - by the social workers with guns who make housecalls


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZxZ2dtxJg4

[midnight rambler]

Don't give me any lip or I'll beat the living shit out of you...er, I mean you need to be more careful so you don't slip and fall down again


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLNNXCz9-gQ

[midnight rambler]

We don't care if you're pregnant teen, we'll beat the living shit out of you too


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn8KNF4kX1M

[midnight rambler]

8 y.o. girls can be kept from harming themselves with liberal use of a taser


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFgK1aE1B0A

[midnight rambler]

We love our tasers!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD0qEjnxdYM

[midnight rambler]

This one is choice


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0SmxjyK6GE

[midnight rambler]

Swarm of NYPD's finest administers beatdown on 84 y.o. 5' tall man for JAYWALKING


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5H25eopUUI

[midnight rambler]

Trigger happy cops...er, I mean boy scouts with badges hose down a 70 y.o. man reaching for his cane


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiuAf2F-BPo

[midnight rambler]

They're not prejudice, they'll beat down old ladies too


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ40yu8v8gU

[madfranks]

Midnight's right, police in modern day America are our greatest enemy. Ask yourself when was the last time a cop actually helped you, versus how many times a cop has threatened, fined, lied to, and harassed you.

[madfranks]

We love our tasers!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD0qEjnxdYM

7th, I want you to watch this video, and ask yourself what kind of man does this to a handcuffed woman?

[madfranks]

Here's a "good cop" story for you, as in, here's what happens when a cop actually tries to do good:


http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/08/william-norman-grigg/why-good-cops-stay-silent/


“I can’t get killed for this job,” observed one of Adam Basford’s former colleagues in the Yakima Police Department, explaining why he had refused to come to Basford’s aid during a hand-to-hand struggle with an armed suspect. “I thought we were going to get killed, so I had to leave you there.”


That officer was one of three who were in a position to help on August 18, 2013 when Basford attempted to arrest Antonio Cardenas, a recently paroled felon who was suspected of aggravated assault with a firearm. Concerned over the safety of bystanders, including a young girl, Officer Basford didn’t pull his gun. He found himself grappling with a younger ex-convict who was several inches taller and at least sixty pounds heavier, while every other available nearby officer found something better to do.


Basford was able to subdue the suspect without killing him or risking the lives of people in the neighborhood. Rather than receiving a commendation, Basford is now off the force and facing criminal charges – not for taking down an armed, violent felon without using lethal force, but for filing a misconduct complaint against an erstwhile colleague.


Basford, an Air Force veteran who regarded himself to be a peace officer rather than a law enforcer, had patrolled a violent neighborhood riven with gang-related violence. On many occasions prior to August 18, he had called for backup, only to find – as he did that night – that no help was forthcoming. This wasn’t just because Basford’s fellow officers were afraid, but because he had violated the unwritten but binding rules of police solidarity by speaking out against routine misconduct and abuse within the department.


Basford had just finished an administrative call when he heard gunshots and saw an armed man later identified as Cardenas racing through the neighborhood. Basford pursued Cardenas into a nearby yard, overtaking him when the suspect failed to clear a fence.


“I didn’t want to draw my gun, because there was a young girl just a few feet away,” Basford recalled to Pro Libertate. “Cardenas took a swing at me, and missed. I took his back while the two of us were still on our feet. He reached for my lapel microphone and broke it, then said he was going to kill me and that nobody would find my body.”


As they struggled, Cardenas reached for his .44 Desert Eagle and squeezed off a shot. Basford managed to wrench the shooter’s hand away from his body at the last second, but still suffered a grazing gunshot wound to his knee. Already in severe oxygen debt from the struggle, Basford quickly began to feel the effects of blood loss. Worried that if Cardenas escaped he might finish killing him or attack a bystander, Basford applied a rear-naked choke – a potentially lethal hold that was, in this situation, used defensively.


The combatants hit the ground, and Basford saw his backup, Officer Booker Ward, arrive.


“He saw what was going on, heard me scream at him,” Basford later recalled. “We made eye contact, and he turned and ran away.”


Two other Yakima PD Officers were on bicycle patrol nearby.


“They heard me get shot,” Basford recounted to me. “They heard me scream for assistance. They were just two blocks away – but they were fifteen minutes from the end of their shift, and they went back to the station instead of coming to my aid.” Basford would find out later that the bike patrol officers “didn’t think the overtime would be approved.”


Finally, after Cardenas was subdued and nearly unconscious, five other officers arrived, and paramedics soon followed. Basford limped away from the scene of the struggle and allowed the emergency personnel to do their work. As the EMTs attended to Cardenas, however, Basford saw the suspect trying to extract something from his pants. Concerned for the safety of his colleagues and the medical personnel, Basford drew his gun, holding it at “low-ready” while approaching the scene.


“I pushed past the paramedics and my supervisor, who was losing her sh*t,” Basford related to me. “As I did, Patrol Officer Ryan Yates yelled that I was about to `execute the suspect,’ and pulled his gun on me, as did several other officers.”


Basford had pointedly declined to use lethal force during the desperate hand-to-hand struggle in which he received no help from the officers now pointing their guns at him. He surrendered his gun to another officer and was taken to the hospital, which treated and discharged him with panicked haste because of what were described as security concerns.


“From what I was told it was clear that Cardenas’s gang associates had learned about his arrest, and there was concern about potential retaliation,” Basford told me. “But nobody seemed all that worried about me when I was fighting with this guy on the street.”


This atypical lack of concern continued as Basford was debriefed by his supervisors. Usually, a police officer involved in a use-of-force incident invokes his “Garrity” privileges, which means that he cannot be criminally or civilly prosecuted for statements made during the official investigation. This time was different, according to Basford.


“Our union representative, Officer Ira Cavin, told me that Garrity didn’t apply in this situation, because I had supposedly committed a criminal act,” Basford attests. To his astonishment, Basford was told that he would be charged with assaulting the man who shot him in the knee – but that charge was quickly dropped.


Cardenas, who had served prison time for his role in a pair of drive-by shootings, faced his “third strike” if the DA charged him with a felony. For reasons that remain unexplained, he was allowed to plead guilty to a single charge of first degree “attempted assault” for shooting a police officer in the leg.


To put that anomalous act of leniency in context, it’s worth remembering that an unarmed Florida man who was assaulted by a police officer during a traffic stop at a convenience store was recently charged with “attempted murder” for defending himself against what appeared to be the officer’s attempt to choke him out. That incident involved a driver accused of running a stop light. Cardenas, a convicted violent felon, was carrying a stolen gun that he had allegedly fired during a nearby shooting – and that he used in an attempt to kill Basford.


Basford, who has undergone multiple surgeries on his knee, and is receiving treatment for the psychological effects of the incident, was maneuvered into accepting an “amicable separation” from the Yakima PD. After leaving the force, Basford inevitably encountered several of the people involved in the incident, including the previously mentioned officer who had abandoned him in the street.


“He asked me to forgive him,” Basford informed me with a grim chuckle. “My reply to him wasn’t terribly charitable.”


“Look, my beat was a neighborhood where the Nortenos and Suraneos were engaged in a turf war,” Basford explains. “Gang members would sometimes isolate and swarm a cop. The streetlights have all been shot out, and gang-bangers sometimes throw toxic improvised devices that can have the explosive yield of a small grenade. So I understand why officers wanted to avoid it. But in the entire time I served as a patrol officer, I never – not once – received requested backup. The officers always told Dispatch that they had a traffic stop, or something else going on. I can understand that this would happen on occasion – but when it happens every time, something’s going on.”


Basford believes that he was singled out for aggressive neglect “because I crossed the Blue Line. I filed official complaints about misconduct and abuse that I saw on the street and in the lock-up.”


“Our job was to investigate crimes and arrest suspects, not to inflict punishment,” Basford continues. “I saw countless instances in which officers” — including, he says, Ryan Yates, who pulled drew his gun on him in the Cardenas incident – “would goad and mistreat people during contacts in the street, and then arrest them without cause. I really tried to do the job in a different way. I would get out of my patrol vehicle and talk with people about what was going on in their neighborhoods – and I always explained to them that they didn’t have to talk to me, and that they could say anything they wanted to me without fear of reprisal. I’m not going to pretend that I was perfect, but I did try to do my job – at least, the job as I understood it.”


That job, as Basford perceived it, meant protecting the rights of suspects following an arrest, and he had no patience for what he described as the routine abuse of prisoners.


“It was a common practice to turn off the video monitor and the lights when officers were dealing with what they called a `lippy’ prisoner, especially if it was an intoxicated woman,” Basford narrates. “This wasn’t done for the safety of the inmate or the officers. It was a cruel, abusive, and completely wrong. So I filed a complaint about it – and from that time, I was on my own. I later filed several excessive force complaints. I was an officer who had crossed the Blue Line, which meant that none of my supposed brother officers would ever have my back.”


The treatment inflicted on Basford offers a stark contrast to the official solicitude displayed toward Officer Casey Gillette a few months earlier after Gillette attacked an unarmed man, falsely arrested him, and engaged in a cover-up to avoid being charged with aggravated assault and kidnapping. Gillette, significantly, was one of the officers who pulled their guns on Basford the night of August 18.


Gillette and his partner were responding to a report of a fight on the evening of May 10 when they encountered a loud-mouthed, shirtless man swearing at them from his front yard.


The intoxicated man was yelling that “this is La Raza’s hood, you know, smoke you fools,” Gillette told investigators. “And he started challenging us from what I remember.” Offended by his “aggressive attitude,” and convinced that the drunk presented “an officer safety issue,” Gillette strode onto the man’s property and “punched him in the left side of the face,” the officer recalled. The blow didn’t knock the man down, but with the help of three other officers, he was handcuffed.


At this point, Gillette had to invent a criminal charge to justify the summary punishment he had meted out for “contempt of cop.” He initially wanted to use “disorderly conduct,” a cover charge he had often used while employed by the police department in Toppenish. The problem is that the Yakima City Code doesn’t include an offense called “disorderly conduct.”


“Gillette used the force to arrest the man for disorderly conduct, which does not exist in the City of Yakima,” admitted the department’s Supervisory Review. The official Personnel Complaint observed that “At the time force was used there was no probable cause to arrest the man or need to use force upon him. The force was unnecessary and therefore excessive in violation of policy.”


This wasn’t merely a “policy violation,” Basford protests: It was a “criminal act – at best misdemeanor assault.” That original crime was compounded by “Unlawful Imprisonment, which is a Class C felony in Washington.” To protect themselves and their employer, Gillette and his unidentified supervisor, a sergeant, arrested the victim for “obstructing.”


According to the Supervisory Review, this was nothing less than a criminal conspiracy: “[Name Redacted] consulted with Officer Gillette and the two agreed to charge the man with Obstructing, even though the man was not obstructing, hindering, or delaying any lawful duties of the officers. The charge appears to have been chosen to justify Gillette’s prior use of force and possibly to protect the city.” (Emphasis added.)


“This was a great example of my [former] Squad’s dynamics,” Basford wearily explained to me. “The sergeant reports the guy for Obstruction … thereby assisting in the criminal act of the original assault by Gillette. They knew there was no charge and they still took him to jail and charged him for exercising his First Amendment rights.”


During the inquiry, Gillette’s superiors “coached him … to say `open hand’” when asked about the strike. “Then Chief Rizzi claims `no harm, no foul,’ and doesn’t punish Gillette, but puts him back on the street, knowing he would just hurt people.”


Rather than being charged with aggravated assault and kidnapping, Gillette was given a written reprimand. He remains on the force. Last January Gillette shot and killed a man named Rocendo Arias while he was asleep in his vehicle at a car wash. Despite the fact that Arias was not a criminal suspect, the shooting was ruled “justified” because of the “perceived threat.” Oddly, that “threat” wasn’t apparent to a female state trooper who had seen the napping man and left him unmolested before Gillette arrived on the scene.


Gillette later claimed that he saw a gun in Arias’s hand. That supposed firearm was actually an Airsoft pellet pistol which Arias might have kept as a prop to deter would-be assailants – other than those invested with “qualified immunity,” of course.


Gillette, who murdered an innocent sleeping man in a fit of panic, remains on the force.


Basford, who was seriously injured while arresting an armed felon, may be headed for jail.


On August 18 – exactly one year after his life-altering fight with Cardenas – Basford had a preliminary hearing on a charge of “filing a false report to a public servant.” If the case goes to trial, and Basford loses, he may spend a year in jail – twice as much time as the recidivist felon who shot him in the leg.


Given Basford’s experience as a conscientious officer with the Yakima PD, it’s not surprising that he now faces a patently retaliatory charge for filing a police misconduct report as a civilian.


“I ran into Yates outside a gun shop, and he smirked at me and grabbed his gun,” Basford told me. “I had seen him do this same thing many times on the street in an effort to provoke somebody he wanted to rough up and arrest. I thought his conduct was threatening and unprofessional, so I filed a complaint with his supervisor.”


That supervisor was Lt. Nolan Wentz, who has a history of retaliating against “civilians” who annoy him. Among them was a Yakima resident named Eddy Ford, who as it happens has a very close personal connection to Basford.


“When I trained in mixed martial arts, Eddy Ford was my boxing coach,” Basford pointed out to me.


In July 2007, Ford was on his way to work when he noticed a Yakima police cruiser on his tail, clinging to him through multiple lane changes. When they arrived at a stop light, Ford got out of his car to ask the officer what he had done to warrant such attention. The cop, Officer Ryan Urlacher, told Ford to get back in his car, and Ford complied. In fact, Ford was compliant during the entire encounter – but he spared no adjectives in describing his opinion of Urlcher’s behavior.


As he ran Ford’s license, Urlacher told another officer: “I think I’m going to arrest him for [a] city noise ordinance violation right now. He might only get a ticket if he cooperates, but with that attitude, he’s going to get cuffed.” Urlacher then told Ford as much, reproaching him for “diarrhea of the mouth.”


Wentz arrived on the scene shortly thereafter, and he all but ordered Urlacher to arrest Ford.


Describing the cooperative but self-assertive citizen as a “hot head” who was “getting worse over time,” Wentz told Urlacher: “I would not just write him a ticket and let him go…. I’d sign his ass up.”


With his supervisor’s permission, Urlacher abducted Ford and had his car impounded.


On the way to the jail, Ford protested that he was being punished for exercising his freedom of speech.


“I have the freedom to take you to jail, too,” sneered Urlacher. “And that’s going to happen… You exercise it [freedom of speech] all you want, OK? If you just cooperate and treat the police like humans, we’ll treat you like that. But when you act like that, like an animal, you’ve got to get treated that way, you know…. Your mouth and your attitude talked you into jail.”


Ford, it probably doesn’t need to be said, is black. He wasn’t being arrested for acting like an “animal,” but for daring to insist on being treated like a free man. Urlacher’s express intention in carrying out that unnecessary and unjustified arrest was to teach that uppity Mundane a lesson in submission.


(Urlacher, incidentally, would later be suspended for charging $400 worth of beer to city credit cards during a “training” junket. Since city policy forbids expenditure of public funds for alcohol, the charges were initially disguised as hyper-extravagant “tips” to waitresses at Hooter’s and similar establishments.)


The pretext charge of a noise violation was later dismissed. Understandably, Ford filed a lawsuit that was eventually heard by a three-judge panel of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, which ruled that he had standing to sue the City of Yakima. Citing a similar case from Chicago, the panel observed that the “freedom of individuals verbally to challenge police action without thereby risking arrest is one of the principal characteristics by which we distinguish a free nation from a police state.”


As is usually the case in such matters, the City government settled the case, paying Ford $65,000 in lieu of going to court. Yakima PD Chief Dominic Rizzi reacted dismissively, insisting that “We did not lose that lawsuit” and instructing his subordinates to ignore the ruling – which is to say, apply what the court described as a “police state” sanction by using retaliatory arrest as a means of punishing Mundanes who criticize them.


This apparently applies to former police officers who are now among the “little people” – such as Adam Basford.


“Even though Lt. Wentz was the same guy who authorized the illegal arrest of my former boxing coach, I took my complaint to him after my run-in with Yates,” Basford told me. “I was hoping that he would be disciplined and brought to heel. Instead, I was hit with a criminal charge that I can’t fight in court.”


Basford’s injuries have left him unable to work, and his ongoing legal struggles have left him in career stasis. Even worse, he is being maneuvered into a plea agreement that would make him unemployable in any field for which he is qualified.


“I contacted every attorney in the area, and was told that it would cost at least $30,000 to retain legal counsel,” Basford relates. “I can’t afford to hire competent legal help, so I wound up with a public defender who is six months out of law school.”


During the August 18 hearing, Basford’s attorney (actually, the paralegal who acted on behalf of his public defender, who didn’t attend) was offered a “12 month Stipulated Order of Continuance” – a form of probation during which he would be subject to a “stipulated trial” if he were arrested and charged with any criminal infraction. A “stipulated trial” is a procedure in which “the judge reads the police reports and makes a determination,” Basford was told. “A stipulated trial would most likely result in a conviction.”


To avoid a Cardassian-style “trial” in which a guilty verdict is foreordained, Basford would have “to sign a waiver agreeing not to sue the city.” What this means, of course, is that his former employer is now threatening him with incarceration in order to compel him to waive his right to seek redress.


The source of Basford’s trouble is the fact that he didn’t define his professional identity in tribal terms.


“My oath was to the public, not to protect abusive fellow officers,” he declares. “I swore an oath to the U.S. Constitution as an Air Force officer, and I took that seriously. I’m not a religious man, but I also believe that there will be a final judgment of some kind, and that I will be accountable for every punch, every kick, every baton strike, and of course every round I fire. I don’t think that attitude was commonplace among my colleagues.”


Basford’s military background, counterintuitively, reinforced his restraint in using force for purposes he considered defensive.


“In the military, at least when and where I served, we were forbidden to inflict punishment on civilians and were required to use force only in response to an attack,” he recalled. “I found that the rules of engagement for the police were much less restrictive. If I had engaged in the kind of behavior I witnessed on the part of the police while I was in the military I’d be residing in Leavenworth right now.”


Owing to the perverse incentives that prevail in government law enforcement, it would have been to Basford’s advantage to kill Antonio Cardenas, rather than using less-than-lethal means – at considerable personal risk, and substantial personal cost – to arrest him. If Basford had used lethal force during that confrontation, it’s likely that the department would have rallied to his defense – not out of admiration for him, but rather in search of limiting their institutional liability.


Basford was purged from the ranks because he saw his role as that of a peace officer sworn to protect persons and property, rather than a member of a privileged enforcement caste. While he fights to keep himself out of jail, nation-wide fundraising and support efforts are underway on behalf of Daniel Pantaleo, the NYPD officer who killed Eric Garner with an illegal chokehold, and Darren Wilson, who shot and killed the unarmed teenager Michael Brown under what can charitably be described as highly dubious circumstances.


Cops who kill, it appears, are considered worthier of support than peace officers who cross the Blue Line.

[7th trump]

7th, I want you to watch this video, and ask yourself what kind of man does this to a handcuffed woman?

Seriously?
Tasering is a lot better than the beating I would have given her for spitting on me.
Heres the deal......the woman doesn't believe she should have been arrested for public intoxication....most people with that drunken demeanor and age don't think they should be arrested but its perfectly ok for her to disrespect authority.
When authority is disrespected society breakdown...when societies breakdown they turn into 3rd world shit holes like Mexico.
Obviously someone called her rude behavior in as a complaint or the officer witness she shouldnt be on the streets.....and heres the deal...the woman obviously did this to herself because she doesn't know when to stop drinking or how to conduct herself under the influence to stay under the radar..........I'm glad the woman was tazered...to bad she didn't get a knight stick up side the head a few times.

People .....just what do you think this country is going to be like if authority is allowed to be stepped on by people who do not respect authority?
With all the givemedats in this country do you actually believe these same thugs are going to respect you and your property?

I've never had a bad experience with the police...because I always respected them. Any time I was given a ticket IT WAS BECAUSE I WAS DOING SOMETHING I SHOULDNT HAVE BEEN DOING IN THE FIRST PLACE........I'm mature enough to except the consequences of my decisions either it be bad or good.
Not one of you on this forum would put up with that bitch spitting on you. Most likely most here would have taken the rude bitch behind the wood shed and shown her some respect.....so why all of a sudden is it wrong for a cop to show the gibsmethat the same love?


I'd like to see someone spit on the Angles in Christs 1000 year rule of a rod of iron and see what happens to them.....a cop tazering is nothing compared to the beating the Angels are authorized to do.

[Hitch]

Not one of you on this forum would put up with that bitch spitting on you.

I would like to see a logical, non emotional, response to this point.

For your information, spitting on someone is a crime. If the spittle misses the victim, it's assault. If the spittle lands on target, it is battery. Disease is spread that way. Do you want ebola?

[Libertytree]

I'm anti-police state and anti thug with a badge and a god complex.

The sheer volume of police thug reports vs good policeman reports is surely enough evidence that things are out of control. MR has single handedly proved this point and he hasn't even really scratched the surface.

[Hitch]

The sheer volume of police thug reports vs good policeman reports is surely enough evidence that things are out of control. MR has single handedly proved this point and he hasn't even really scratched the surface.

The only thing MR has proven, is how little the public understands law enforcement. Not trying to justify bad cops, there's a lot of them, but the good cops vastly outweigh the bad ones.

People only see the bad cops. Nobody notices the good ones, and people believe what they see.

[Dogman]

I monitor the local LE's here 24/7, have seen some bad ones but also more good ones here. My town does have a history that goes back to the oil boom days. Several officers and two chiefs have been run out of town in the last 10-15 years, being crooks and shooting blacks that most think should have not have happened,.

Mostly good deeds go unreported here because it is more the norm, and bad deeds do get reported. Big city Le's I can see the attitudes.

But small towns are different, everyone knows mostly everyone else. So bad cops tend not to last very long here and find reasons to move elsewhere, anywhere but here.

Hitch is right, the good ones mostly go unnoticed, and the bad ones get the attention they richly deserve.

Sorta like a nail in a wooden floor, mostly one never notices the nails holding the boards in place, they are out of sight/out of mind.

But get one sticking up and you are walking barefoot, it will get noticed in a hurry.

[Hitch]

Sorta like a nail in a wooden floor, mostly one never notices the nails holding the boards in place, they are out of sight/out of mind.

But get one sticking up and you are walking barefoot, it will get noticed in a hurry.

That is a good analogy. Personally, I think there is a media agenda to install fear into the public about police. They want us scared, because people in fear are easy to manipulate and control. It's by design.

[Ares]

That is a good analogy. Personally, I think there is a media agenda to install fear into the public about police. They want us scared, because people in fear are easy to manipulate and control. It's by design.

No sense in that. Just get pulled over by some badge on a power trip. I haven't called the police for anything in over a decade. One of the incidents involved me having to pull my gun on an individual. I could be held up by armed thugs, the last people I would call would be the police. They make the situation worse and are no better than the thugs holding me up. Both want money or material positions, one group is independent, the other group has state sponsorship and will literally walk away if they decide to put a bullet in my head. So damned if I do, damned if I don't. Not a good situation to be in, but the police CAN NOT be relied upon, and the police are not to be trusted with your safety. Only YOU can provide for your own safety and well being. State sponsored thugs need not apply.

FUCK THE POLICE.

[Hitch]

No sense in that. Just get pulled over by some badge on a power trip. I haven't called the police for anything in over a decade. One of the incidents involved me having to pull my gun on an individual. I could be held up by armed thugs, the last people I would call would be the police. They make the situation worse and are no better than the thugs holding me up. Both want money or material positions, one group is independent, the other group has state sponsorship and will literally walk away if they decide to put a bullet in my head. So damned if I do, damned if I don't. Not a good situation to be in, but the police CAN NOT be relied upon, and the police are not to be trusted with your safety. Only YOU can provide for your own safety and well being. State sponsored thugs need not apply.

FUCK THE POLICE.

Meanwhile, you sleep easy at night without realizing that a cop arrested a burglar, before he broke into your home. But, you never saw that happen. Did you know I arrested a man, gun in hand, one block away from a guy he was going to kill? That guy, was outside joking with his buddies. He never knew...

[BrewTech]

Meanwhile, you sleep easy at night without realizing that a cop arrested a burglar, before he broke into your home.

The burglar should be thankful, as that cop probably saved his life. I don't think I would want to attempt a break-in at the Ares household, ya know, he being armed and whatnot.

[Libertytree]

Hitch, there are reasons why you chose a different vocation. Surely you saw 1st hand the thug mentality? Did that influence your decision?

[EE_]

The only thing MR has proven, is how little the public understands law enforcement. Not trying to justify bad cops, there's a lot of them, but the good cops vastly outweigh the bad ones.

People only see the bad cops. Nobody notices the good ones, and people believe what they see.

No one needs to notice good cops, not if they are just doing their job.
Do you think you should get noticed for doing your job ethically and to what was expected of you?

People see bad cops because there are so many bad cops.
People see bad cops because they are given the power over other's lives.
People see bad cops because bad cops kill and maim innocent people.
People see bad cops because they unjustly destroy and seize property.
People see bad cops because it's the people's tax dollars paying them.



The fact is, there shouldn't be so many bad cops!
When cops are found abusing their power, they should be dealt with firmly and swiftly.
Punishment for bad cops should be more strict, more harsh and without leniency, compared to a common citizen. Cops should be held to a higher standard then a common citizen.

I personally have no good experiences with cops to report, other then having them writing up a report for an accident or theft.

My less then good experiences include tickets for seatbelt and helmet violations, tickets for marginal traffic violations.
IMO, when a cop sets up a speed trap to shake down citizens for money, they are not acting ethically.

[7th trump]

I would like to see a logical, non emotional, response to this point.

For your information, spitting on someone is a crime. If the spittle misses the victim, it's assault. If the spittle lands on target, it is battery. Disease is spread that way. Do you want ebola?

I was going to add to what body fluid is in my post, but decided to not override their brain synopsis with to much electricity.

People......all body fluid, including spit, is a biohazard and is to be treated as a biohazard when cleaning it up.
Like I said before everyone of you GSUS'ers would have taken the thug behind the woodshed for spitting on you....so why now is it a problem for a cop to stop a biohazard assault from happening twice?
She lucky the police officer is being patient, she just got a small tasering.

[Ares]

Meanwhile, you sleep easy at night without realizing that a cop arrested a burglar, before he broke into your home. But, you never saw that happen. Did you know I arrested a man, gun in hand, one block away from a guy he was going to kill? That guy, was outside joking with his buddies. He never knew...

Nope, I sleep easy at night because I have a Glock 17 within arms reach at all times. It should be the burglar who sleeps easy at night in his cell, at least he's alive as he wouldn't be if he made the decision to break while I'm home.

[jimswift]

No one needs to notice good cops, not if they are just doing their job.
Do you think you should get noticed for doing your job ethically and to what was expected of you?


that reminds me of this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0B_ekSrsEk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0B_ekSrsEk

[midnight rambler]

re: the handcuffed black woman spitting on the cop who subsequently tazed her - you mental midgets fail to take into account HOW DID WE GET TO THIS POINT?? 30-40 years ago spitting on a cop like that was very rare - what caused things to change? Why the widespread contempt for cops these days? I'll tell you why 'cause I was able to witness the progression over several years while doing ridealongs with cops in a large city PD. When I first started doing ridealongs there were no cages in the backs of the cruisers, the protocol was for the prisoner to be seated and buckled in the front right seat 'cuffed behind the back. As a ridealong when the cop I was riding with took someone into custody I was the one sitting in the back seat. Then came the cages and the attitude that accompanies the caged. Treat people like animals and they will respond in kind. It's human nature, yet few are able to comprehend this due to lacking experience with it. I've got that experience, years of it. And furthermore I KNOW how cops think 'cause I hung out with 'em on duty and off, and I gotta tell you I witnessed some of the most EGREGIOUS over the top RECKLESS behavior BOTH ON AND OFF DUTY (e.g. an after shift beer bust where all the cops sucked down several beers and then got behind the wheels of their personal cars - fwiw I never drank a single beer at those after work get togethers). In another incident I invited the lieutenant cop buddy and his subordinates out for deer hunting on the 650 acre ranch I was living on at the time. I advised my lieutenant buddy (someone you would expect to have SOME sense of responsibility) and his crew, "Do NOT shoot in that direction over there, there are houses we can't see just beyond that treeline." Next thing I know my lieutenant buddy fired off a shot from his 7mm mag in the direction of the houses - I got a phone call shortly thereafter from the developer/ranch owner raising hell with me over shotS being fired at the houses in his development. I could go on regarding out of line incidents with that particular agency, there were plenty to observe if one was on the inside. Also I used to hang out with the SWAT team from the same PD both on and off the range - with only a couple of exceptions (one being my cop buddy on the SWAT team) these incompetent boneheads were just downright dangerous to themselves and others. Additionally, 'cause I was generally accepted as 'one of the good guys' within the local LE community I was able to hang out with a DPS Trooper buddy on the security detail at the governor's mansion command post. This level of acceptance was to the extent that as a 'civilian' I was able drive onto the grounds of the governor's mansion with loaded weapons and carry any of those loaded weapons into the CP (naturally their boss was unaware of this). No shortage of lazy, incompetent dumbshits on the governor's security detail either.

So based on my own real world experience of roughly ten years on the inside of the LE community I have to say that those who suffer these delusions about cops who are nothing more than the strongarm of the collectivist corporate state you could not possibly be more FULL OF SHIT.

[madfranks]

Seriously?
Tasering is a lot better than the beating I would have given her for spitting on me.
Heres the deal......the woman doesn't believe she should have been arrested for public intoxication....most people with that drunken demeanor and age don't think they should be arrested but its perfectly ok for her to disrespect authority.

Sorry, but supposedly it's the job of the police to deal with people like that without punitively attacking them for "disrespecting" them. And the fact that you openly admit that you would deliver a physical beating to an incapacitated woman speaks volumes about you. And as far as disrespecting authority, when that authority is illegitimate, there is no respect due.

[Libertytree]

re: the handcuffed black woman spitting on the cop who subsequently tazed her - you mental midgets fail to take into account HOW DID WE GET TO THIS POINT?? 30-40 years ago spitting on a cop like that was very rare - what caused things to change? Why the widespread contempt for cops these days? I'll tell you why 'cause I was able to witness the progression over several years while doing ridealongs with cops in a large city PD. When I first started doing ridealongs there were no cages in the backs of the cruisers, the protocol was for the prisoner to be seated and buckled in the front right seat 'cuffed behind the back. As a ridealong when the cop I was riding with took someone into custody I was the one sitting in the back seat. Then came the cages and the attitude that accompanies the caged. Treat people like animals and they will respond in kind. It's human nature, yet few are able to comprehend this due to lacking experience with it. I've got that experience, years of it. And furthermore I KNOW how cops think 'cause I hung out with 'em on duty and off, and I gotta tell you I witnessed some of the most over the top RECKLESS behavior BOTH ON AND OFF DUTY (e.g. an after shift beer bust where all the cops sucked down several beers and then got behind the wheels of their personal cars - fwiw I never drank a single beer at those after work get togethers). In another incident I invited the lieutenant cop buddy and his subordinates out for deer hunting on the 650 acre ranch I was living on at the time. I advised my lieutenant buddy (someone you would expect to have SOME sense of responsibility) and his crew, "Do NOT shoot in that direction over there, there are houses we can't see just beyond that treeline." Next thing I know my lieutenant buddy fired off a shot from his 7mm mag in the direction of the houses - I got a phone call shortly thereafter from the developer/ranch owner raising hell with me over shotS being fired at the houses in his development. I could go on regarding out of line incidents with that particular agency, there were plenty to observe if one was on the inside. Also I used to hang out with the SWAT team from the same PD both on and off the range - with only a couple of exceptions (one being my cop buddy on the SWAT team) these incompetent boneheads were just downright dangerous to themselves and others. Additionally, 'cause I was generally accepted as 'one of the good guys' within the local LE community I was able to hang out with a DPS Trooper buddy on the security detail at the governor's mansion command post. This level of acceptance was to the extent that as a 'civilian' I was able drive onto the grounds of the governor's mansion with loaded weapons and carry any of those loaded weapons into the CP (naturally their boss was unaware of this). No shortage of lazy, incompetent dumbshits on the governor's security detail either.

So based on my own real world experience of roughly ten years on the inside of the LE community I have to say that those who suffer these delusions about cops who are nothing more than the strongarm of the collectivist corporate state you could not possibly be more FULL OF SHIT.

Question... What were the years of this 10 year window? The reason I ask is that it can only be worse now with the massive influx of the former .mil people getting into LE. I've been around some of these guys and it is truly a scary proposition, so much so that I'm not surprised at all at what I see happening.

[Neuro]

I was going to add to what body fluid is in my post, but decided to not override their brain synopsis with to much electricity.

People......all body fluid, including spit, is a biohazard and is to be treated as a biohazard when cleaning it up.
Like I said before everyone of you GSUS'ers would have taken the thug behind the woodshed for spitting on you....so why now is it a problem for a cop to stop a biohazard assault from happening twice?
She lucky the police officer is being patient, she just got a small tasering.
Saliva is generally regarded as an antiseptic, cut yourself best way of dealing with it immediatelly, lick it clean... Getting spat at though isn't generally regarded as a biohazard attack, it's an insult. Making it assault or battery ( most certainly only applicable if the 'victim' is a cop), is ridiculous.

Yes, if someone spat at me I would most likely take that person behind the woodshed, if it was someone of somewhere similar physical size and power, however the biohazard of that would be significantly greater...

I guess you never go out, imagine if people sneeze in your vicinity? The preferred vector of bacterium and virus to spread...

[midnight rambler]

Question... What were the years of this 10 year window? The reason I ask is that it can only be worse now with the massive influx of the former .mil people getting into LE. I've been around some of these guys and it is truly a scary proposition, so much so that I'm not surprised at all at what I see happening.

'83-'93

It's all about the training, and those with prior training to KILL without compunction (and experienced) go to the head of the line.

[Hitch]

'83-'93

It's all about the training, and those with prior training to KILL without compunction (and experienced) go to the head of the line.

No doubt those cops who are involved in shootings get a bit more respect. In fact, once I was sworn of course all the new guys rumors start about them, about how well they fit in, or perform. I had a cop tell me that I needed to kick someone's ass, because the rumor was I was too nice.

Just curious Midnight, but within those 10 years, did you try to get hired? What was the reason you did so many ridealongs?

[Hitch]

Hitch, there are reasons why you chose a different vocation. Surely you saw 1st hand the thug mentality? Did that influence your decision?

There was a reason why I quit, and I won't share that. But, it was a blessing, at the time it was a blow to the ego. I realized afterwards, I hated being a cop. I signed up under the delusion that I was going to help people. The biggest thing I disliked, is butting into other people's business. Too many times I asked, "why are we bother this guy?" There were some good experiences, but dealing with all that drama stressed me out.

Then again, a lot of it had to do with where I was policing. I was in one of the worst beats, in one of the most dangerous cities in the country. It really sucked, actually. I saw more in that short time than most cops see in a whole lifetime career.

[Libertytree]

There was a reason why I quit, and I won't share that. But, it was a blessing, at the time it was a blow to the ego. I realized afterwards, I hated being a cop. I signed up under the delusion that I was going to help people. The biggest thing I disliked, is butting into other people's business. Too many times I asked, "why are we bother this guy?" There were some good experiences, but dealing with all that drama stressed me out.

Then again, a lot of it had to do with where I was policing. I was in one of the worst beats, in one of the most dangerous cities in the country. It really sucked, actually. I saw more in that short time than most cops see in a whole lifetime career.

Thank you for the reply my friend!

What you said, said volumes and I respect that and it makes me respect you all the more.

[madfranks]

No doubt those cops who are involved in shootings get a bit more respect. In fact, once I was sworn of course all the new guys rumors start about them, about how well they fit in, or perform. I had a cop tell me that I needed to kick someone's ass, because the rumor was I was too nice.

Just curious Midnight, but within those 10 years, did you try to get hired? What was the reason you did so many ridealongs?

Honestly, the first thing that came to my mind was that this sounds like a gang initiation, which in many ways it is.

I do respect you Hitch for recognizing that the belief that cops are there to help people is a delusion. I wash it wasn't true, but nowadays when you see a cop behind you the natural instinct is of danger, not comfort.

[midnight rambler]

Just curious Midnight, but within those 10 years, did you try to get hired? What was the reason you did so many ridealongs?

No, I didn't try to get hired, but there was an effort to recruit me. My cop buddies respected the fact that I didn't care to officially join their gang after I advised those that tried to recruit me, "Naw, I'd be far too inclined to mete out summary punishment by beating the living shit of out those I thought deserved it." I did so many ridealongs 'cause those were the circles I traveled in at the time due to circumstances and usually I just enjoyed riding along with 'em since they regarded me as an equal and counted on me to watch their six which I positively did (gave me a set of keys to the patrol car and the shotgun rack JIC at the beginning of the shift). It was 'the talk'* one of them that gave me on a ridealong that gave me a change of heart.

*'the talk' was "Midnight, in the future avoid ALL contact with the police" and he explained why as we were riding along in his cruiser - the absolute best advice I've ever gotten from a cop

[midnight rambler]

Criminal
Opportunists
Protected by the
State

[Hitch]

*'the talk' was "Midnight, in the future avoid ALL contact with the police" and he explained why as we were riding along in his cruiser - the absolute best advice I've ever gotten from a cop

Cheers man, and thanks for the answer to my question. I was going to ask why, what that cop explained in "the talk"...but I know.

Funny how life works, I wonder who I would be if I stayed on as a cop in that shithole city. I'd be different than I am today, I know that, and I kinda like who I am today. That job changes you, it really does.

[midnight rambler]

Cheers man, and thanks for the answer to my question. I was going to ask why, what that cop explained in "the talk"...but I know.

Funny how life works, I wonder who I would be if I stayed on as a cop in that shithole city. I'd be different than I am today, I know that, and I kinda like who I am today. That job changes you, it really does.

I was even encouraged to covertly carry extra rounds of 12 ga. buckshot stuffed in my pockets so long as I wasn't obvious about it. lol

[BrewTech]

I love how 7th Chump starts these threads, and promptly gets his ass kicked in them... LOL.

[Hitch]

I love how 7th Chump starts these threads, and promptly gets his ass kicked in them... LOL.

Brew, that's really not fair. In the OP, the article 7th posts was a damn good well written article.

[midnight rambler]

There's no shortage of this shit, it's RAMPANT and HAPPENS ROUTINELY.

Man tazed for sitting on a bench in a public area while black. Fuck these thugs with badges, security guards for imaginary entities*. Tazee strikes me as a reasonable and articulate black man.

*those who believe in imaginary entities as if they were real are completely out of touch with reality and are in fact a danger to those around them


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=UWH578nAasM#t=0

[7th trump]

I love how 7th Chump starts these threads, and promptly gets his ass kicked in them... LOL.

Theres nothing you or Midnight Ramblebutt has posted yet that refutes whats in the link about Missouri to even be considered an ass kicking.
All midnight posts are video's of bad cops.....what...... about 15 video's.....that's barely as scratch on a knats ass.
Theres 100,000 of police and he can only manage 15 or so video's of bad cops in an attempt to smear all authority.

Don't be a puss brewtech...belly up and try your damnest to disprove what that article had to say about what happened in Missouri........or shut up!
midnight is just a queen...a drama queen...nothing more and nothing else!

[Cebu_4_2]

Been refreshing this thread all night watching videos, don't stop now!

[Hitch]

Been refreshing this thread all night watching videos, don't stop now!

I've got George Jones playing and an artichoke boiling.

Make me a mod for 10 minutes and I'll ban a few folks. :)

[Libertytree]

I've got George Jones playing and an artichoke boiling.

Make me a mod for 10 minutes and I'll ban a few folks. :)

Ain't no motherfucker listening to ol George and probably drinkin' gonna ban anyone, tend to those chokes and don't forget to add the sea salt for the last 10 mins :)

[midnight rambler]

15 or so?? This proves morons cannot count. lol

[BrewTech]

Brew, that's really not fair. In the OP, the article 7th posts was a damn good well written article.

Don't see how the quality of the article in the original post has anything to do with what I said...

[7th trump]

Don't see how the quality of the article in the original post has anything to do with what I said...

Of course not....it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that your biased.
Actually...self inflicted blindness!

[Celtic Rogue]

Midnights gotta problem.
Bet he calls the police when trouble finds him. You are the one with the problem. ANYONE who condones this type of abuse by the police is just as guilty as these thugs with badges! You claim to follow christian principles? So does your god condone murder and torture? Killing of innocents and handcuffed suspects? It appears so with your gleeful posts that condone these brutal acts by psychopathic people! You are sick and should seek professional help before you act in a smiler manner. When and IF your god does come back and kills all of the non believers and people who disobeyed his commands.... YOU will be the first in line for your demented praise of these animals with badges! You say that there are devils in this world trying to sway people to evil! I agree and YOU are that devil of which you speak! You are sick.... seek professional help now!

[Ares]

So does your god condone murder and torture? Killing of innocents and handcuffed suspects?

To 7th Trump god does condone this type of behavior because after all, they wear a costume and have a badge, and are protected by the state. Who are you to question the state which is GOD here on this earthly realm? /sarcasm


Theft, murder, extortion, torture, every level of sexual deviancy is condone by the new modern god, the state.

[Hatha Sunahara]

There was another thread here about how many police shootings there were. The claim was that in a recent year, the police shot and killed 409 people. I thought that didn't square with my perceptions about the frequency at which I read about police shootings. Here is my reply to that thread:

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?78757-The-Chart-That-The-US-Police-Force-Does-Not-Want-You-To-See&p=722795&viewfull=1#post722795

This thread supports my suspicion that the media is lying about how many people are killed by cops. It's waaaaaayyyy more than they are telling us.


Hatha

[iOWNme]

Being 'anti police' is the same as being 'anti Santa Clause'.


There is no such thing as 'Police'. It is a euphemism used to hide the inherent immoral initiation of violence that is all 'Government'.

[iOWNme]

To 7th Trump god does condone this type of behavior because after all, they wear a costume and have a badge, and are protected by the state. Who are you to question the state which is GOD here on this earthly realm? /sarcasm


Theft, murder, extortion, torture, every level of sexual deviancy is condone by the new modern god, the state.


Look what i found in his book:

Paul's Letter to the Roman's:

Chapter 13
1 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. 2 Therefore he who resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of him who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, 4 for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain; he is the servant of God to execute his wrath on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore one must be subject, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. 6 For the same reason you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. 7 Pay all of them their dues, taxes to whom taxes are due, revenue to whom revenue is due, respect to whom respect is due, honor to whom honor is due.


Now honestly tell me how someone who believes this is going to be able to live peacefully with others who do not share in this delusion?

[BrewTech]

Look what i found in his book:

Paul's Letter to the Roman's:

Chapter 13
1 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. 2 Therefore he who resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of him who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, 4 for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain; he is the servant of God to execute his wrath on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore one must be subject, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. 6 For the same reason you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. 7 Pay all of them their dues, taxes to whom taxes are due, revenue to whom revenue is due, respect to whom respect is due, honor to whom honor is due.


Now honestly tell me how someone who believes this is going to be able to live peacefully with others who do not share in this delusion?

I'll bet that if you could ask "Paul" about those statements, he would say "What the fuck is this? I didn't write that! You've all been scammed! Who the fuck wrote this shit, the IRS commissioner? It cracks me up that you all fell for this... ha ha ha!"

LOL

[woodman]

The most dangerous unarmed people are the ones who are possessed by devils, which is becoming more and more common.
Of course, those who reject the scriptures relinquish this to "mental instability" since they refuse to accept possession as a reality.

A man possessed by devil's can have the strength of many men and are (IMO) more dangerous to the average police officer than anyone with just a pistol.

Mark 5:3 Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains:
Mark 5:4 Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him.

I'm glad you're not a cop and if you were, I would not want you anywhere near me or mine.

[Hypertiger]

the rich masters are the cause.

the poor slaves or waste by products of lifestyles of the wannbe rich and famous and are consequence.

The purpose of the police and military or servants of the master is to serve and protect the cause from the consequence.

My name is Michael...The protector of policemen and soldiers...I serve and protect them...from the cause and the consequence.

It's why when the police are called on me by ignorant game players that have no clue...they wonder what the problem is.

Because I do not show the slightest resistance...Unlike all of you game players.

I never play games...I end them.

That is what people fear most of all...when I begin waking them up from the daydream of fantasy into the nightmare of reality...they call 911...and beg for salvation from the damnation they demand me to begin supplying to them.

I'm sorry to say...I may look like one of you...but I'm not.

I do not believe the fantasy you all believed to be reality is reality.

I know the fantasy you all believe is reality is a fantasy.

I can choose to supply the demand of the fantasy with what it wants...YES or victory.

or

I can choose to supply the demand of the fantasy with what it does not want...NO or defeat.

I supply lies that want to be Truth with what they need...not what they want.

you can only obtain what you want from me when what you need an want are the same.

The key problem is what you see when you go out into a national park...the signs that say...don't feed the animals...

Your bodies are composed of trillions of animal cells...there is no such thing as Human being cells.

When I supply one of you animals masquerading as human beings with what you need and it is also what you want...You begin think I'm your slave and you are my master.

Until I show you who is master...If you force me to.

The police in Canada have all be militarized...switched from blue...to black.

Rich Liberal master minds rule the poor conservative slave minds.

It's against the liberal religion or belief to get their hands dirty....it's not against the conservative religion or belief to get their hands dirty.

Gradual absolute capitalists or Liberals = White/red = hot = positive = progressive = absolute 1's

Violent absolute capitalists or Conservatives = Black/blue = cold = negative = regressive = absolute 0's

I'm sorry to say but the only time I know of in recorded history where the poor won against the rich was in the early history of Rome.

The lower class ran from the upper class and set up their Rome down the river and rich Rome was left behind...Until rich Rome began to fall apart and cause rich Rome to beg poor Rome to come back.

The police or clubbers are not clubbing baby seals for no reason.

You ultimately have to supply the police or conservative angels of death with a reason to splatter you.

legalize pot?

In Canada I have consumed massive amounts of pot...and never been caught...because I'm smart...and pot is everywhere...it's legal enough.

dumb people are caught.

all the people that want pot to be leagized want stupidity to be leagized.

they want the choice to be stupid to be legal...or turned from a wrong into a right.

you are free to be dumb all you wish.

You have a GOD given right to chose to worship ignorance as bliss.

But no GOD given right to escape from the consequences of that choice.

I have been listening to beyond spoiled brat infants masquerading as adults cry for their diapers to be changed or a booby to suck on for decades now.

GOD or Truth only supplies what is needed...Not what is wanted.

You can only obtain what you want when what you need and want are the same.

The Universe or Cosmos is perfectly fair, all and everything in the cosmos is supplied with what all and everything in the cosmos deserves, and there is no hope.


"In all chaos there is a cosmos, in all disorder a secret order."--Carl Jung

There is never a lasting victory over lies/fantasy/ignorance while the war against Truth/reality/knowledge has no exit strategy and always ends in defeat.

Ignorance of Truth is the root of all evil.

The trained monkeys following the program in order to obtain monkey chow are not operating the way you think they should?

I am watching all of you animals masquerading as human beings and you all are operating perfectly...

I see no problem.

It is all of you that are the cause of any problems you are suffering from.

The one problem that rules them all is fixed by the one solution that solves them all.

Truth.

The solution to the greatest problem you currently face was created out of thin air the instant you were created out of thin air and can be found by looking into the nearest mirror.

The invisible order or reality of the basic system operating in the background powers the visible chaos of the graphical user interface or fantasy believed to be reality in the foreground.

The singularity or Truth, reality, GOD NEEDS to supply power to the demand for power by the paradox of duality or Satan, fantasy, a lie that WANTS to become Truth and never die.

This is how it has been for all eternity.

I can choose to supply the demand for what is wanted or YES.

Or I can choose to supply the demand for what is not wanted or NO.

You all want victory...you all demand me to supply power to the lie you believe is Truth an have fallen in love with.

a lie you believe is Truth is a reasonable assumption...and when you fall in love with it.

The reasonable assumption becomes a cherished delusion.

I annihilate lies and shatter delusions.

That is what fate awaits at the logical conclusion or defeat of the reasonable assumption of the cherished delusion of victory.

Always.

You have two options...figure out how to break the rules of the game you all are playing without getting caught or avoid breaking the rules of the game you all are playing.

In a legal system...you can do something illegal as longs as you are not caught and you can do something wrong as long as it is legal.

You think I'm an absolute monumental moron that can not see right through you all?

You all are either unbelievers and hate GOD or Truth/reality and Love Satan or lies/fantasy believed to be Truth/reality.

Or you are believers and fear GOD or Truth/reality and run in fear from Truth or GOD/reality into the loving embrace of lies/fantasy believed to be Truth/reality.

I do not think believe or have faith that GOD or Truth exists...I know GOD or Truth exists.

Because I know the secret of the word of GOD...It would be ignorant to be named Michael and be knowledgeable of what Michael is supposed to be knowledgeable of...

Most people seem to think the name Michael is like any other noise made by a master to attract the attention of a DOG or slave.

My name translates to "Who is like GOD?"

Not "Who is like DOG?"

[BrewTech]

Click here... please! (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?78794-Poll-Should-HyperTiger-be-banned-forever&highlight=poll+hypertiger)

[osoab]

Judge Won't Grant Immunity to Police, Doctor who Medically Paralyzed Man for Cavity Search (http://informationliberation.com/?id=48381)

[Cebu_4_2]

Fuck Tennesee.

[crimethink]

Judge Won't Grant Immunity to Police, Doctor who Medically Paralyzed Man for Cavity Search (http://informationliberation.com/?id=48381)



Good, a judge who actually rendered justice.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/09/27/judge-wont-grant-immunity-to-police-doctor-who-medically-paralyzed-man-for/

[BrewTech]

Good, a judge who actually rendered justice.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/09/27/judge-wont-grant-immunity-to-police-doctor-who-medically-paralyzed-man-for/

About fucking time...


The defendants' attorneys have argued they're immune from prosecution because they were just doing their jobs.

I'm on salary, so I'm always on the clock. Can I get immunity from certain "crimes" because I was just doing my job? If not, why not?

[Horn]

Fuck Tennesee.

When did Tennessee turn into Sodom & Gomorrah anyway, didn't it used to be a fine state at one point?

[BrewTech]

When did Tennessee turn into Sodom & Gomorrah anyway, didn't it used to be a fine state at one point?

I think Voluntaryism was invented there, now that I think about it.

[Horn]

I think Voluntaryism was invented there, now that I think about it.

I see, first come Voluntaryism, then come Homosproberectus.

Its like everyone is an alien there.

[osoab]

Sleeping 7-year-old girl shot in head during no-knock police raid on wrong home (http://www.policestateusa.com/2014/aiyana-stanley-jones-raid/)

[osoab]

Good thing they didn't have donuts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qP8D0NLsFc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qP8D0NLsFc

[Cebu_4_2]

Sleeping 7-year-old girl shot in head during no-knock police raid on wrong home (http://www.policestateusa.com/2014/aiyana-stanley-jones-raid/)



Video at link.