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Horn
5th September 2014, 10:44 PM
“Why We’re Definitely Not Headed for Another Ice Age.”

When I saw that headline in Newsweek (http://www.newsweek.com/2014/08/22/why-were-definitely-not-headed-another-ice-age-264633.html), I thought, do they know something that I don’t? But once I read the article, it left me wondering how in the world they came to that conclusion.

It reminds me of the great retort by paleontologist Robert Bakker to those who did not agree with his belief that many kinds of dinosaurs were birds.

“There are still a few of my colleagues who think if it walks like a duck, breathes like a duck and grows like a duck, it must be a turtle,” said Bakker.

Let’s see if this Newsweek article is a duck or a turtle.

It starts out by admitting that “there are currently very low levels of activity on the sun - the lowest in more than 100 years - and they are likely to fall further.”

So far so good. I agree.

The article then reminds us of the “crippling winters” between 2008 and 2010 that closed airports and paralyzed transport systems in western Europe and the eastern United States. (Interestingly, it fails to mention the record cold and snow this past winter in the United States, nor the record cold in the U.S. Midwest this summer.)

The article goes on to describe the Maunder Minimum, a 70-year period between 1645 and 1715 when solar activity almost stopped. It even discloses that the Maunder Minimum coincided with a period of bitter winters known as “the little ice age.”

Maunder Minimum and Global Warming

This is all true. And finally, the article quotes Mike Lockwood, Professor of Space Environment Physics at Reading University.

“When you look at the overall trend of solar magnetic fields and things, then you see that we’ve now had three cycles where every (solar) maximum has got weaker, every minimum has got deeper, and there’s no reason not to expect that trend to continue. It’s not a negligible probability that we go into a Maunder Minimum.”

Great! Still good information. So what do we have here?

If a lack of sunspots correlated with the last little ice age, and if we now have the lowest sunspot activity in more than 100 years (and still dropping), and if the U.S. and Europe have recently endured the coldest, snowiest winters on record, and if we have the “not negligible probability” of descending into a Maunder Minimum, mightn’t we come to the conclusion that we’re heading into a little ice age?

Umm, no. Look out! Here comes the turtle. Here comes the legerdemain.

“The sun’s cycles, however inactive they become, will not save the world from global warming,” the article asserts. “A slight, temporary change in the sun’s activity cannot mitigate many years of suffocating emissions, whatever the deniers would have us believe.”
Oh, those nasty deniers.

How did we suddenly move from a Maunder Minimum to global warming?
Because researchers say so. Which researchers? Researchers who crunched their numbers through the UK Met Office’s “sophisticated climate models”

Forget the facts. Forget what we can see with our very own eyes. Instead, let’s bury our heads in our models (computer-generated guesses).


Have these Met Office models been programmed to overestimate the effects of CO2? We don’t know.
Have these Met Office models been programmed to underestimate the effects of solar activity? We don’t know.
Have these Met Office models been programmed to estimate the effects of well-known ice-age cycles? We don’t know.
Remember that acronym GIGO (Garbage in, garbage out)?

If it looks like garbage, and smells like garbage, and tastes like garbage, well, maybe it’s garbage.

What about Russian astrophysicist Habibullo Abdussamatov’s contention (http://iceagenow.info/2014/03/video-ice-age-2014/) that we’re headed into a little ice age? No mention of him.
What about British astrophysicist Piers Corbyn’s contention (http://iceagenow.info/2014/04/mini-ice-age-begun-climatologist/) that we’re now headed into a little ice age? No mention of him.
What about American climatologist Cliff Harris’s contention (http://iceagenow.info/2014/04/climatologist-calls-big-cool-2020/) that we’re now headed into an ice age? No mention of him.
What about American climate scientist Don Easterbrook’s contention (http://iceagenow.info/2014/03/video-climate-scientist-predicts-20-years-global-cooling/) that we’re now headed into an ice age? No mention of him.

I’ll stick to my guns. I think we definitely are headed into another ice age.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/if-it-quacks-like-a-duck-...-it-must-be-a-turtle




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hzf0RiEIiY

Ponce
5th September 2014, 10:50 PM
Always remember that you are the one that have to come with the final conclusion according to the information that you already have at hand......you probable have a better source of info than the one who is giving out the news....except for me, of course.... I am always right on the money.........ok, ok, stop making fun of me. Pluto? down boy.

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Celtic Rogue
6th September 2014, 02:49 AM
I am always amazed at how many people buy into this global warming pseudo science. They quote the high levels of CO2(which we do need to control , but not by taxing) that they claim are causing the warming of the planet. In reality temperature follows changes in CO2 by about 800 years. Not the direct response as they claim. In the face of verifiable facts they double down on the CO2 angle and trudge along towards taxing every breath of life we take. In reality methane is much more the bad guy in global warming but not much if anything about methane.

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/PageMill_Images/Temp_0-400k_yrs.gif
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/PageMill_Images/CO2_0-400k_yrs.gif

osoab
6th September 2014, 05:29 AM
In the face of verifiable facts they double down on the CO2 angle and trudge along towards taxing every breath of life we take. In reality methane is much more the bad guy in global warming but not much if anything about methane.



They cover methane with their cow fart regulations. :D

Horn
6th September 2014, 09:45 AM
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/PageMill_Images/Temp_0-400k_yrs.gif

Look at those swings back down to resistance.

What's the term for that?

mick silver
6th September 2014, 09:54 AM
I have a duck and it quacks is it really a duck . just how in the f do they know how cold are warm it was 400.000 years ago was g soros alive then are what

Horn
6th September 2014, 03:44 PM
I have a duck and it quacks is it really a duck . just how in the f do they know how cold are warm it was 400.000 years ago was g soros alive then are what

When it is warmer hot air expands even further along with waist lines.

One of last rulers of the medieval warming period, noticed the rag ropes used as a belt.

The loopholes ran out on any pre-existing kingly garb belts thusly a replaced with these rag rope belts.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6730&stc=1

JohnQPublic
6th September 2014, 07:50 PM
Look at those swings back down to resistance.

What's the term for that?

To Da Moon!

Horn
6th September 2014, 09:42 PM
Forget about a weakened magnetic plane along with a weak solar cycle,

its all dark matters fault again...


Why the Earth-Sun Distance Is Changing


Over the past few years, astronomers have observed some fairly peculiar occurrences in the distance covered by the astronomical unit (AU), the length that separates the Sun from the Earth. This unit of measurement is used a lot in astronomy, mostly because scientists know it's a constant. However, recent observations seem to point at something peculiar, namely the fact that the AU appears to be getting bigger. While no one knows precisely why this happens, a lot of experts are saying that this may have something to do with the Sun collecting more and more dark matter around it, as it's traveling through the Local Fluff, inside the Milky Way.

The AU is equal to the Earth's semimajor axis, and any changes in its value hint at modifications in this axis as well. Measurements conducted on numerous occasions by several researches have evidenced the fact that, for the past five years, this distance has been increasing by about 15 centimeters per year, give or take three centimeters. A team of Italian physicists from the National Institute of Nuclear Physics in Pisa, led by expert Lorenzo Iorio, believes that dark matter could be to blame for this weird phenomenon. Though dark matter cannot be measured directly just yet, it is believed to permeate the Universe, and to exert its largest influence via its gravitational pull on ordinary matter.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Why-the-Earth-Sun-Distance-Is-Changing-132053.shtml

Horn
6th September 2014, 09:50 PM
Bicentennial Decrease of the Total Solar Irradiance Leads to Unbalanced Thermal Budget of the Earth and the Little Ice Age




Habibullo I. Abdussamatov

http://ccsenet.org/journal/public/journals/10/pageHeaderLogoImage_en_US.gif Applied Physics Research

Abstract


Temporal changes in the power of the longwave radiation of the system Earth-atmosphere emitted to space always lag behind changes in the power of absorbed solar radiation due to slow change of its enthalpy. That is why the debit and credit parts of the average annual energy budget of the terrestrial globe with its air and water envelope are practically always in an unbalanced state. Average annual balance of the thermal budget of the system Earth-atmosphere during long time period will reliably determine the course and value of both an energy excess accumulated by the Earth or the energy deficit in the thermal budget which, with account for data of the TSI forecast, can define and predict well in advance the direction and amplitude of the forthcoming climate changes. From early 90s we observe bicentennial decrease in both the TSI and the portion of its energy absorbed by the Earth. The Earth as a planet will henceforward have negative balance in the energy budget which will result in the temperature drop in approximately 2014. Due to increase of albedo and decrease of the greenhouse gases atmospheric concentration the absorbed portion of solar energy and the influence of the greenhouse effect will additionally decline. The influence of the consecutive chain of feedback effects which can lead to additional drop of temperature will surpass the influence of the TSI decrease. The onset of the deep bicentennial minimum of TSI is expected in 2042±11, that of the 19th Little Ice Age in the past 7500 years – in 2055±11.

Full Text: PDF (http://ccsenet.org/journal/index.php/apr/article/view/14754/10140)DOI: 10.5539/apr.v4n1p178

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mick silver
8th September 2014, 01:55 PM
what theirs a moon
To Da Moon!