Ukraine truce represents a triumph for Putin

[Serpo]

Ukraine truce represents a triumph for Putin Analysis: If the cities of Donetsk and Luhansk are left in rebel hands, then Vladimir Putin's effort to freeze the conflict on his terms will be nearing success http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03028/putin_3028965b.jpg Russian President Vladimir Putin waves to people in the city of Gorno-Altaisk, Siberia, on September 4 Photo: AP








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By David Blair (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalists/david-blair/), Chief Foreign Correspondent

6:39PM BST 05 Sep 2014



The ceasefire agreement in eastern Ukraine (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/) represents not a retreat but a triumph for President Vladimir Putin.

Only a few weeks ago, his allies in the country seemed on the verge of defeat. The pro-Russian insurgents were losing town after town to a determined counter-offensive by Ukraine’s army.

After months of hesitation and setback, Ukrainian forces seemed close to recapturing the eastern regions of Donetsk and Luhansk and crushing the rebellion. The insurgents faced the prospect of being surrounded and besieged in the two local capitals.

Then Mr Putin hit back, deploying at least 1,000 Russian combat troops in eastern Ukraine along with tanks, self-propelled artillery and other armoured vehicles. By striking over the border and advancing towards the port city of Mariupol, a Russian column opened a new front and drew Ukraine’s forces away from the last rebel strongholds.

At a stroke, Mr Putin’s intervention saved his friends from possible defeat. In the process, he forced Petro Poroshenko, the Ukrainian president, back to the negotiating table.

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The result is the 14-point ceasefire agreement signed on Friday, which seems designed to freeze the conflict.
If so, pro-Russian gunmen will be left in control of both Donetsk and Luhansk, along with the territory in between. Together, these two cities have a combined population of 1.5 million and the surrounding area holds Ukraine’s industrial heartland and much of the country’s coal reserves. Leaving them in rebel hands would be a bitter pill for Mr Poroshenko to swallow.
The text of the agreement has yet to be released, but Russia had earlier insisted that Ukrainian forces must withdraw to beyond artillery range of Donetsk and Luhansk. If implemented, this would lift the military threat to the rebels and allow them to continue ruling both cities unchallenged.
What about Russia’s own forces? Mr Putin maintains that no Russian troops or tanks have entered Ukraine, so he will presumably refuse to promise any withdrawal of the very units which, on his account, do not exist.
The danger for Mr Poroshenko is that the status quo, whereby Russian troops are in Ukraine and the rebels are masters of two cities and a swathe of valuable territory, will persist indefinitely. If so, Mr Putin will have succeeded in freezing the conflict on terms favourable to Russia. If he also escapes any further European Union sanctions, his victory would be complete.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/11077871/Ukraine-truce-represents-a-triumph-for-Putin.html

[Hypertiger]

There was no other way...The conservative Ukrainian ultra nationalists installed by the USA had to slaughter every Russian in the Russian zone.

For that plan to work...the Ukrainian conscript army with guns to their heads marched down to slaughter the Russians infecting Ukraine...required the Russians which knew well in advice their fate according to the script...Had to play baby seal...So they could be clubbed by the conservative ultra nationalist knuckle dragging psychopaths hiding behind their conscript force like the absolute cowards they are.

But for some weird reason...The Russians stopped following the script and resisted their fate.

Since they were in the defensive position...and the morons that think they are real bad asses hiding behind a force of dupes were on offence.

All that the installed ultra nationalist conservative morons of the Universe accomplished was to flush a pile of their so called countrymen which they supposedly care about...down the toilet.

Why?

because in war there are two sides...

On one side are winners that know they are going to win...and on the other side there are losers that believe they are going to win.

before the war even begins.

The result of this war was known before the logical conclusion or defeat of the reasonable assumption or cherished delusion of victory by the losers that believed they were going to win was reached.

The Ukrainians showed up and played checkers...The Russians were playing chess.

And do any of you know how to use the Internet...Or do you just wait around for the mainstream media to spoon feed your warmongering pabulum?

The Russian and Chinese have satellites and can see morons with no clue marching in...and set up a wood chipper for them to march into splatter them back in their mother's stupid faces.

All the American so called wars were conducted the same...

The brave American heroes as seen on TV...have not fought against a formable foe in decades...

look at the boston bombing...two internet mind controlled morons shut Boston down and turned it into a jackbooted knuckle dragging wannbe he-man thug parade.

The Americans have been jokes for years and years...It's just now...deep into the telling of the joke that the punchline is showing up.

I watch your retired so called Generals babbling on TV...and they are all puke bag idiots...they have been sniffing red with a blue glue for years and overdosed.

I would not follow them anywhere...because they are all being mind controlled off of cliffs with their knuckle dragging dunce forces following behind.

[Hypertiger]

Rebels?

Fate resisters?

Like Bush said...you are either with the fate accepters...or with the fate resisters...

The script followers...or the script resisters...and if you resist...you are a terrorist...a rebel.

Drop to your knees and worship the ground that Americans walk on...like you better be having sex with it...convincingly...Or you are going to get a bullet in the head.

LOL..fart...burb...snort.

You think you all are awake?

You fall deeper asleep every day...dreaming you are awake.

Don't worry the Hollywood hero's and the soldiers of fiction will save us from the phantom menace.

[mick silver]

I am getting ready for my afternoon nap

[General of Darkness]

There was no other way...The conservative Ukrainian ultra nationalists installed by the USA had to slaughter every Russian in the Russian zone.

For that plan to work...the Ukrainian conscript army with guns to their heads marched down to slaughter the Russians infecting Ukraine...required the Russians which knew well in advice their fate according to the script...Had to play baby seal...So they could be clubbed by the conservative ultra nationalist knuckle dragging psychopaths hiding behind their conscript force like the absolute cowards they are.

But for some weird reason...The Russians stopped following the script and resisted their fate.

Since they were in the defensive position...and the morons that think they are real bad asses hiding behind a force of dupes were on offence.

All that the installed ultra nationalist conservative morons of the Universe accomplished was to flush a pile of their so called countrymen which they supposedly care about...down the toilet.

Why?

because in war there are two sides...

On one side are winners that know they are going to win...and on the other side there are losers that believe they are going to win.

before the war even begins.

The result of this war was known before the logical conclusion or defeat of the reasonable assumption or cherished delusion of victory by the losers that believed they were going to win was reached.

The Ukrainians showed up and played checkers...The Russians were playing chess.

And do any of you know how to use the Internet...Or do you just wait around for the mainstream media to spoon feed your warmongering pabulum?

The Russian and Chinese have satellites and can see morons with no clue marching in...and set up a wood chipper for them to march into splatter them back in their mother's stupid faces.

All the American so called wars were conducted the same...

The brave American heroes as seen on TV...have not fought against a formable foe in decades...

look at the boston bombing...two internet mind controlled morons shut Boston down and turned it into a jackbooted knuckle dragging wannbe he-man thug parade.

The Americans have been jokes for years and years...It's just now...deep into the telling of the joke that the punchline is showing up.

I watch your retired so called Generals babbling on TV...and they are all puke bag idiots...they have been sniffing red with a blue glue for years and overdosed.

I would not follow them anywhere...because they are all being mind controlled off of cliffs with their knuckle dragging dunce forces following behind.

Finally something you've written where I didn't want to shoot you in the face with a bazooka. Nice job prick.