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Horn
14th September 2014, 06:09 PM
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Huge demad: Gold and silver volumes on the Shanghai bourse have increased sharply compared with other global exchanges.

Will launch an international board on the Shanghai Gold Exchange on Sept 29

PUNE, SEPTEMBER 14:

China may be the hidden dragon in the global gold market, but it is making strategic moves in its endeavour to become a roaring lion.
A move towards this will be the launch of the international board on the Shanghai Gold Exchange on September 29 in the Shanghai Free Trade Zone. The international board, which will allow domestic and foreign players to participate, is an effort to earn global recognition for its gold market and will be followed a couple of measures that is aimed at dictating or becoming a price-setter in the global bullion market.

“The impact of China in the global arena is set to increase,” says Jeremy East, Managing Director, Standard Chartered Bank.

After the launch of the Shanghai international gold platform, China will be trying to set a benchmark price for gold on a par with London and New York next year. “That will make it a major force in Asia,” says an industry player not willing to identify.

From thereon, there will be manoeuvres, including accumulating gold within the country, to become a force to reckon with in the global arena.
Statistics and signals from China in the global market are clear indicators of its moves.

Since 2011, China has imported 3,500 tonnes of gold. “In 2013, some 1,400 tonnes of gold were imported, while domestic production was a record 438 tonnes. In fact, it has absorbed nearly 2,000 tonnes of gold last year,” says East.

Data from Thomson Reuters GFMS show that physical demand, excluding banking activity, was 1,283 tonnes last year, up 28.2 per cent over 2012.
Gold and silver volumes on the Shanghai bourse have increased sharply compared with other global exchanges. Gold volume was up 24 per cent last year against a 28 per cent drop in New York. Silver volume increased 60 per cent against a 23 per cent drop in the US bourse.

Investments abroadChinese investments in mining projects abroad were over $20 billion last year, says Jorge Ramiro Monroy, Managing Director of Emerging Markets Capital. “It invested $7 billion in a Peru gold mine,” he says.
China’s strategy, in gold and other minerals and metals, is to avoid disruption of supply and ensure a hedge against price spike, says Monroy.

China’s gold-friendly strategy, as StanChart Bank’s East says, is not just aimed at becoming a force to reckon with in the global market but also have under control currency movements.
The Chinese yuan dropped to 6.26 against the dollar a few months ago and has recovered to 6.16 currently. Last year, during the same time, it ruled at 6.06.
“In a few years’ time, China plans to remove control on its currency movements. At that time, the gold holdings will come into play,” says East.
“The Chinese economy has grown 24 per cent in the last three years compared with the US’ 7 per cent. Therefore, it has the money to achieve its objective,” he says.
“Chinese investments are by the Government or its agencies, unlike India where the private sector is the one that takes such initiatives,” says Munroy.

East and Monroy are surprised over India’s negative thinking against gold and investments in mining.

“China and India are a study in contrast. While one is encouraging gold, the other is discouraging,” says East, pointing out to the fact that both these nations account for 60 per cent of global gold imports.

India was a force in the gold market until September last year. “India’s measures to increase Customs duty and curb imports through the 80:20 rule, which mandates importers to re-export 20 per cent of the gold brought into the country in value-added form, did drag the market by around $350 an ounce. Since then, India’s hold in the market has loosened,” says East.

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Hypertiger
14th September 2014, 08:13 PM
"The Shanghai Bund has dozens of historical buildings, lining the Huangpu River, that once housed numerous banks and trading houses from the United Kingdom, France, the United States, Italy, Russia, Germany, Japan, the Netherlands and Belgium, as well as the consulates of Russia and Britain, a newspaper, the Shanghai Club and the Masonic Club."

"The city was one of five opened to foreign trade following the British victory over China in the First Opium War"

The opium war happened because England had a huge trade deficit with China...the silver was being sucked out of London and piling up.

The solution was opium imported illegally by the British East india company into China...to get the population addicted.

to balance the trade and reverse the flow of silver back to London...The Chinese leadership noticed that their population was being turned into drug addicts and being annihilated...so they banned opium...

The British east India company with the help of the British military...put a gun to the head of the Chinese and made them an offer they could not refuse and forced the Chinese to consume opium.

Hong Kong started out as a port to dump opium...HSBC... The Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation.

After the British established Hong Kong as a colony in the aftermath of the First Opium War, local merchants felt the need for a bank to finance the growing trade between China and Europe (with traded products including opium). They established the Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Company Limited in Hong Kong (March 1865) and Shanghai (one month later).

The founder, Thomas Sutherland of the Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Company, wanted a bank operating on "sound Scottish banking principles."

It started out as a drug money laundering operation.

"HSBC Holdings plc is a British multinational banking and financial services company headquartered in London, United Kingdom. It is the world's second largest bank."

"In 2012, HSBC was the subject of hearings of the U.S. Senate permanent subcommittee for investigations for severe deficiencies in its anti money laundering practices. On 16 July the committee presented its findings.[51][52] Among other things it concludes that HSBC has been transferring $7 billion in banknotes from its Mexican to its US subsidiary, much of it related to drug dealing, was disregarding terrorist financing links and was actively circumventing U.S. safeguards to block transactions involving terrorists, drug lords and rogue regimes, including hiding $19.4 billion in transactions with Iran."

One of Federal reserve primary dealers...HSBC Securities (USA) Inc.

The primary dealers account for 73% of all trades on Forex.

“In a few years’ time, China plans to remove control on its currency movements. At that time, the gold holdings will come into play,” says East.

“The Chinese economy has grown 24 per cent in the last three years compared with the US’ 7 per cent.

The Gold holdings will come into play?

Don't make me laugh...

The Chinese economy was opened up in 1978...special UN economic zones...to absorb US consumer debt inflation...beginning in 1981 to now.

Yield rates in the USA have been imploding down towards absolute 0...to power the inflation of US credit...in the USA...and out into the world...into China.

China is a bubble that was exponentially growing by 10% per year from 1981 to around 2008...and since then USA has been collapsing...the flow of US Dollars into China has been slowly being cut off...and China is slowly collapsing.

Why where US interest rates collapsing for 33 years?

Because the Chinese were using their excess reserves from slave labor to buy Treasuries...constantly...to keep yield rates constantly imploding down...to sustain the US consumer ability to sign on the dotted line of new home mortgages...to flood the US economy with more and more credit to consume more and more Chinese slave labor produced products...from Walmart.

The FED has not been lowering yield rates...The US consumers have...by constantly reinvesting into yield extraction...

When you buy bonds...the price of bonds rises...and the yields drop....allowing more credit to be created out of thin air by dupes in the USA signing on the dotted line of the American dream...and the new credit bids bonds up and yields lower.

When the China bubble pops...They will blow all their reserves trying to survive...until they run out of reserves...and then what happened when the British pound was cut off when the England collapsed...will happen when the US dollar is cut off.

Chaos will break out inside China.

Gold is not going to save them.

The USA will collapse...followed by the EU...China will then pop...

I love these China is going to rule the world stories.

When you remove the export to the rest of the world component of their economy...they are a net consumer of resources...

The only reason they are pumping China and saying the sky is the limit...Because the collapse is close and they need to load up all the bag holders with soon to be worthless crap.

The price of gold will collapse...Just like back in 2008...

Sorry but the net producers or slaves at the bottom are the supply of power to the masters and their servants or net consumers at the top of the hierarchy.

When the slaves choose to stop and drop you all or reach their maximum potential to hold all of you up and are forced to drop you all...it's game over....they chose to strike...or they are taxed/whipped into skeletons and are forced to strike...

The top or masters of all of you...can see when it's time to sell.

They have been selling into the volume for months now.

Since 7/17...the DOW closed at 17,138 on 7/16...that was the all time High close...and since then it has not broken through resistance...

it's been slowly going down or trading sideways since.

Horn
14th September 2014, 09:07 PM
The price of gold will collapse...Just like back in 2008...

And who among us has dwelt in the loose palace of exile for 7 long years,

plotting his exchange for pyramid dollars?

Hypertiger
15th September 2014, 01:54 AM
Commercial banking has been like this for over 600 years.

In Zimbabwe people had gold and silver...but they killed off the white farmers...and replaced them with black farmers...turning the bread basket of Africa into the basket case...

Transforming from a net exporter of food into a net importer.

All the gold and silver that went into circulation...circulated out and did not come back.

The production of US debt peaked in 2008...since then it's not recovered...the supply is being cut off...that is the purpose of the sanctions on Russia.

It's why Ukraine has imploded...and the nutcases were installed...as cover.

All the economic problems globally are being caused by the USA.

The USA was made the supply of economic solutions in 1944 and the rest of the world the demand for economic solutions.

The USA was made the cause...and the rest of the world the effect.

In 2008 the USA reached it's maximum potential to supply economic solutions or inflation to the demand for economic solutions or inflation by the world...

So now the USA is supplying economic problems or deflation to the rest of the world...In ever greater quantity over time.

All that was done since 2009 is slow the collapse...not stop it...Because it can not be stopped.

The demand by all of you for economic solutions or inflation to solve your economic problems or deflation has become greater than the supply of economic solutions or inflation from all of you.

Horn
15th September 2014, 07:53 AM
The production of US debt peaked in 2008...since then it's not recovered...the supply is being cut off...that is the purpose of the sanctions on Russia.

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