Dachsie
15th September 2014, 01:18 PM
If I had time I would break this down even further so every person will get it.
http://fitzinfo.wordpress.com/2014/09/07/khazar-theory-a-scapegoat-for-jews/#comment-4730
Khazar theory a scapegoat for Jews
http://fitzinfo.wordpress.com/2014/09/07/khazar-theory-a-scapegoat-for-jews/
Khazar theory a scapegoat for Jews
By Timothy Fitzpatrick
Sept. 7, 2014 Anno Domini
Regardless of if those who call themselves “Jews” today are indeed the descendants of Abraham, they are behaving in the spirit of the ancients who rejected Christ.
That is what matters most. People who obsess on the racial heritage of today’s Jews are missing the bigger picture. However, there is some value to the racial heritage question on a secular level. For example, if today’s Jews are not descendants of Abraham, how then can they justifiably claim a Biblical right to Palestine? But the focus of this article will be the Khazar theory as scapegoat for Jews and their anti-Christian behavior.
Much of the confusion, present mainly in Protestant circles, is caused by a misunderstanding of Jesus words found in St. John’s Apocalypse, chapter 2, verse 9.
I know thy tribulation and thy poverty, but thou art rich: and thou art blasphemed by them that say they are Jews and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
The confused are rendering this passage carnally, saying that Jesus was singling out only “fake Jews” as the synagogue of Satan but not the true descendants of Abraham. The root cause of this confusion stems from the heresy of dual covenant theology, which states that Jews are saved based on their race alone, not on their faith in our Lord Jesus Christ. The truth of the matter is that Jesus was speaking of the spiritual nature of the issue.
Khazars didn’t exist when Jesus spoke against the Synagogue of Satan
The Khazar Empire, a medieval power that lay just north of the theocratic Christian Byzantium Empire, is believed to have been established around the 7th century A.D., several hundred years after Christ walked the Earth. During the 8th century, many of its nobles converted to Judaism. It is believed that many or most of today’s European (Ashkenazi) Jews are descended from this Turkish Khazar tribe. How is it, then, that Jesus could have been referring to these supposed “fake” Khazar Jews in His admonishment of the Synagogue of Satan throughout the Gospels? Were the Jews to whom He spoke indeed the literal descendants of Abraham? The answer is unequivocally, yes. In almost all of Jesus’ discourse with the Zionist Jews of His time, he focused on their spiritual blindness, not on their supposed racial legitimacy. In the following passage, Jesus makes it clear that the faithful spirit that was present with Abraham, not ethnicity, is what counts. The following passage also proves that Jesus did not view the Synagogue of Satan as Khazar Jews.
I know that you are the children of Abraham: but you seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you. I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and you do the things that you have seen with your father. They answered, and said to him: Abraham is our father. Jesus saith to them: If you be the children of Abraham, do the works of Abraham. But now you seek to kill me, a man who have spoken the truth to you, which I have heard of God. This Abraham did not. You do the works of your father. They said therefore to him: We are not born of fornication: we have one Father, even God. Jesus therefore said to them: If God were your Father, you would indeed love me. For from God I proceeded, and came; for I came not of myself, but he sent me: Why do you not know my speech? Because you cannot hear my word. (John 8:37-43)
Jesus then exposes the true source of their spirit.
You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and he stood not in the truth; because truth is not in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof. (John 8:44)
The consistent message in the New Testament is that one’s spirit towards Christ will determine his ultimate destiny, heaven or hell…to be reborn of the Spirit or to remain in the spirit of bondage to sin. There is no way of carnalizing the Gospels and making them about heritage or ethnicity.
The terms “Jew” and “Israel” were redefined by Christ’s coming
Adding to the confusion of the identity of the Synagogue of Satan is the definition of the term “Jew” in the Bible. In the New Testament, there are instances where Jew refers to a racial/national group and other instances where Jews are referred to as a spiritual group. Still yet, Jews are also referred to as an adversarial group, summed up in the term “Synagogue of Satan” and hinted at in passages like “they hid for fear of the Jews.” So how are we to determine what “Jew” means? Historian E. Michael Jones has a solid grasp of the variation in application of the term “Jew.”
When St. John uses the words “oi Ioudaioi,” he is referring to a group that has rejected Christ. The coming of Christ changed Jewish identity forever, something the Jews at His time comprehended only with difficulty. From then, the terms “Israelite” and “Jew” were no longer synonyms, because, Ferdinand Hahn points out in Caron’s book, “the true Israelites” from the Christian perspective “are precisely those who, like Nathaniel, recognize Jesus as the Messiah.
—E. Michael Jones, “The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit and its Impact on World History”, Fidelity Press, South Bend, Indiana, 2008, p. 33-34
Upon Christ’s arrival…the situation changes, for the Jews have to accept Christ to remain Israel…John uses the term “Jew” two ways. He begins by saying that “Salvation comes from the Jews,” and ends by saying those who call themselves “Jews” are not children of Abraham or Moses and, in fact, have Satan as their father. From identifying the word Jew with “we,” as he does with the Samaritan woman, Jesus goes on to refer to what John calls “Jews” as “you,” which is to say, a group that does not include Jesus. Accepting or rejecting the Messiah becomes the principal way of defining what it means to be a Jew. (p. 36)
In other words, the true meaning of what it means to be a Jew has to do with the spirit that was present with Abraham. By rejecting Christ, the Jews also rejected Abraham, for the Spirit of Christ was with Abraham. However, now, the term “Jew” has been redefined as a rejecter of Christ, regardless of ethnicity; for the Jews, in their rejection of Christ, accepted Satan as their father.
There is neither Jew nor Greek: there is neither bond nor free: there is neither male nor female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus. (Galatians 3:28)
One who distinguishes him or herself as Jewish is declaring their rejection of Christ and the spiritual redefinition of God’s people in the above passage from Galatians.
Scapegoating Jews
Those who continue to advance the lie that Jesus was referring to Khazar Jews when He admonished the Synagogue of Satan are not only guilty of falsifying history but also of excusing ethnic Jews of their rejection of Jesus the Messiah. There can be no excuse for a Jew, or anyone, who rejects Jesus. In a religious and spiritual context, the Khazar debate is irrelevant. There is no validity in the dichotomy of “fake Jews” vs. “real Jews” outside of St. John’s definition of “Jews”. And Jewish behavior today cannot be excused away as being the rotten fruits of Turkish impostors. Jewish behavior today is no different than it was 2,000 years ago when the Jews cried for the release of the criminal Barabbas over Jesus and for Herod to crucify the Messiah. The likely reason why some push the Khazar theory is in an attempt to avoid being labelled a racist or anti-Semite while implicating “Khazars” in crimes and conspiracy.
Yet no man spoke openly of Him, for fear of the Jews. (John 7:13)
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I wish somebody would teach the message of this article very very clearly on a good, visually rich YouTube. Unfortunately, it probably cannot be presented by any Protestant because of some deep rooted theological errors regarding this, even Texe Marrs type Protestants. But such a video could use the King James Version to show the verses on screen, if that is all people will accept, like Texe Marrs also.
“However, there is some value to the racial heritage question on a secular level. For example, if today’s Jews are not descendants of Abraham, how then can they justifiably claim a Biblical right to Palestine?”
I would say that they cannot justifiably claim a Biblical right to Palestine even if their DNA shows they are descendants of Abraham.
Besides accepting Jesus having nothing whatsoever to do with DNA, skin color, and any material thing in this world including land, I think there is pretty strong Biblical evidence that the “land promises to Abraham” which are said to be “everlasting” [Hebrew word olam which does not really mean “everlasting), were already completely fulfilled during Old Testament times. When any kind of Jew truly accepts Jesus, they are no longer a Jew. That's what St. John says.
THREE Times it says in the Old Testament it says that God fulfilled every promise of land that he gave to Abraham for the Jews in the Old Testament, IN the Old Testament He fulfilled it, so there is nothing left to fulfill.
Joshua 21:43-45
I Kings 8:56
Nehemiah 9:7-8
Joshua 21:43-45: “Thus the Lord gave to Israel all the land which he swore to give to their fathers; and having taken possession of it, they settled there…Not one of all the good promises which the Lord had made to the house of Israel had failed; all came to pass”;
1Kings 8:56: “Blessed be the Lord who has given rest to his people Israel, according to all that he promised; not one word has failed of all his good promise, which he uttered by Moses his servant”;
Nehemiah 9:7-8: “Thou art the Lord, the God who didst choose Abram and bring him forth out of Ur of the Chaldeans and give him the name Abraham; and thou didst find his heart faithful before thee, and didst make with him the covenant to give to his descendants the land of the Canaanite, the Hittite, the Amorite, the Perizzite, the Jebusite, and the Girgashite; and thou hast fulfilled thy promise, for thou art righteous.”
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God bless us each and every one in the Name of the One Who is Truth
P.S.
I am not going to subscribe to this or entertain discussion. I would like to but I think I will just pray for the light of Christ to illuminate minds.
http://fitzinfo.wordpress.com/2014/09/07/khazar-theory-a-scapegoat-for-jews/#comment-4730
Khazar theory a scapegoat for Jews
http://fitzinfo.wordpress.com/2014/09/07/khazar-theory-a-scapegoat-for-jews/
Khazar theory a scapegoat for Jews
By Timothy Fitzpatrick
Sept. 7, 2014 Anno Domini
Regardless of if those who call themselves “Jews” today are indeed the descendants of Abraham, they are behaving in the spirit of the ancients who rejected Christ.
That is what matters most. People who obsess on the racial heritage of today’s Jews are missing the bigger picture. However, there is some value to the racial heritage question on a secular level. For example, if today’s Jews are not descendants of Abraham, how then can they justifiably claim a Biblical right to Palestine? But the focus of this article will be the Khazar theory as scapegoat for Jews and their anti-Christian behavior.
Much of the confusion, present mainly in Protestant circles, is caused by a misunderstanding of Jesus words found in St. John’s Apocalypse, chapter 2, verse 9.
I know thy tribulation and thy poverty, but thou art rich: and thou art blasphemed by them that say they are Jews and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
The confused are rendering this passage carnally, saying that Jesus was singling out only “fake Jews” as the synagogue of Satan but not the true descendants of Abraham. The root cause of this confusion stems from the heresy of dual covenant theology, which states that Jews are saved based on their race alone, not on their faith in our Lord Jesus Christ. The truth of the matter is that Jesus was speaking of the spiritual nature of the issue.
Khazars didn’t exist when Jesus spoke against the Synagogue of Satan
The Khazar Empire, a medieval power that lay just north of the theocratic Christian Byzantium Empire, is believed to have been established around the 7th century A.D., several hundred years after Christ walked the Earth. During the 8th century, many of its nobles converted to Judaism. It is believed that many or most of today’s European (Ashkenazi) Jews are descended from this Turkish Khazar tribe. How is it, then, that Jesus could have been referring to these supposed “fake” Khazar Jews in His admonishment of the Synagogue of Satan throughout the Gospels? Were the Jews to whom He spoke indeed the literal descendants of Abraham? The answer is unequivocally, yes. In almost all of Jesus’ discourse with the Zionist Jews of His time, he focused on their spiritual blindness, not on their supposed racial legitimacy. In the following passage, Jesus makes it clear that the faithful spirit that was present with Abraham, not ethnicity, is what counts. The following passage also proves that Jesus did not view the Synagogue of Satan as Khazar Jews.
I know that you are the children of Abraham: but you seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you. I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and you do the things that you have seen with your father. They answered, and said to him: Abraham is our father. Jesus saith to them: If you be the children of Abraham, do the works of Abraham. But now you seek to kill me, a man who have spoken the truth to you, which I have heard of God. This Abraham did not. You do the works of your father. They said therefore to him: We are not born of fornication: we have one Father, even God. Jesus therefore said to them: If God were your Father, you would indeed love me. For from God I proceeded, and came; for I came not of myself, but he sent me: Why do you not know my speech? Because you cannot hear my word. (John 8:37-43)
Jesus then exposes the true source of their spirit.
You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and he stood not in the truth; because truth is not in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof. (John 8:44)
The consistent message in the New Testament is that one’s spirit towards Christ will determine his ultimate destiny, heaven or hell…to be reborn of the Spirit or to remain in the spirit of bondage to sin. There is no way of carnalizing the Gospels and making them about heritage or ethnicity.
The terms “Jew” and “Israel” were redefined by Christ’s coming
Adding to the confusion of the identity of the Synagogue of Satan is the definition of the term “Jew” in the Bible. In the New Testament, there are instances where Jew refers to a racial/national group and other instances where Jews are referred to as a spiritual group. Still yet, Jews are also referred to as an adversarial group, summed up in the term “Synagogue of Satan” and hinted at in passages like “they hid for fear of the Jews.” So how are we to determine what “Jew” means? Historian E. Michael Jones has a solid grasp of the variation in application of the term “Jew.”
When St. John uses the words “oi Ioudaioi,” he is referring to a group that has rejected Christ. The coming of Christ changed Jewish identity forever, something the Jews at His time comprehended only with difficulty. From then, the terms “Israelite” and “Jew” were no longer synonyms, because, Ferdinand Hahn points out in Caron’s book, “the true Israelites” from the Christian perspective “are precisely those who, like Nathaniel, recognize Jesus as the Messiah.
—E. Michael Jones, “The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit and its Impact on World History”, Fidelity Press, South Bend, Indiana, 2008, p. 33-34
Upon Christ’s arrival…the situation changes, for the Jews have to accept Christ to remain Israel…John uses the term “Jew” two ways. He begins by saying that “Salvation comes from the Jews,” and ends by saying those who call themselves “Jews” are not children of Abraham or Moses and, in fact, have Satan as their father. From identifying the word Jew with “we,” as he does with the Samaritan woman, Jesus goes on to refer to what John calls “Jews” as “you,” which is to say, a group that does not include Jesus. Accepting or rejecting the Messiah becomes the principal way of defining what it means to be a Jew. (p. 36)
In other words, the true meaning of what it means to be a Jew has to do with the spirit that was present with Abraham. By rejecting Christ, the Jews also rejected Abraham, for the Spirit of Christ was with Abraham. However, now, the term “Jew” has been redefined as a rejecter of Christ, regardless of ethnicity; for the Jews, in their rejection of Christ, accepted Satan as their father.
There is neither Jew nor Greek: there is neither bond nor free: there is neither male nor female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus. (Galatians 3:28)
One who distinguishes him or herself as Jewish is declaring their rejection of Christ and the spiritual redefinition of God’s people in the above passage from Galatians.
Scapegoating Jews
Those who continue to advance the lie that Jesus was referring to Khazar Jews when He admonished the Synagogue of Satan are not only guilty of falsifying history but also of excusing ethnic Jews of their rejection of Jesus the Messiah. There can be no excuse for a Jew, or anyone, who rejects Jesus. In a religious and spiritual context, the Khazar debate is irrelevant. There is no validity in the dichotomy of “fake Jews” vs. “real Jews” outside of St. John’s definition of “Jews”. And Jewish behavior today cannot be excused away as being the rotten fruits of Turkish impostors. Jewish behavior today is no different than it was 2,000 years ago when the Jews cried for the release of the criminal Barabbas over Jesus and for Herod to crucify the Messiah. The likely reason why some push the Khazar theory is in an attempt to avoid being labelled a racist or anti-Semite while implicating “Khazars” in crimes and conspiracy.
Yet no man spoke openly of Him, for fear of the Jews. (John 7:13)
_______________________-
I wish somebody would teach the message of this article very very clearly on a good, visually rich YouTube. Unfortunately, it probably cannot be presented by any Protestant because of some deep rooted theological errors regarding this, even Texe Marrs type Protestants. But such a video could use the King James Version to show the verses on screen, if that is all people will accept, like Texe Marrs also.
“However, there is some value to the racial heritage question on a secular level. For example, if today’s Jews are not descendants of Abraham, how then can they justifiably claim a Biblical right to Palestine?”
I would say that they cannot justifiably claim a Biblical right to Palestine even if their DNA shows they are descendants of Abraham.
Besides accepting Jesus having nothing whatsoever to do with DNA, skin color, and any material thing in this world including land, I think there is pretty strong Biblical evidence that the “land promises to Abraham” which are said to be “everlasting” [Hebrew word olam which does not really mean “everlasting), were already completely fulfilled during Old Testament times. When any kind of Jew truly accepts Jesus, they are no longer a Jew. That's what St. John says.
THREE Times it says in the Old Testament it says that God fulfilled every promise of land that he gave to Abraham for the Jews in the Old Testament, IN the Old Testament He fulfilled it, so there is nothing left to fulfill.
Joshua 21:43-45
I Kings 8:56
Nehemiah 9:7-8
Joshua 21:43-45: “Thus the Lord gave to Israel all the land which he swore to give to their fathers; and having taken possession of it, they settled there…Not one of all the good promises which the Lord had made to the house of Israel had failed; all came to pass”;
1Kings 8:56: “Blessed be the Lord who has given rest to his people Israel, according to all that he promised; not one word has failed of all his good promise, which he uttered by Moses his servant”;
Nehemiah 9:7-8: “Thou art the Lord, the God who didst choose Abram and bring him forth out of Ur of the Chaldeans and give him the name Abraham; and thou didst find his heart faithful before thee, and didst make with him the covenant to give to his descendants the land of the Canaanite, the Hittite, the Amorite, the Perizzite, the Jebusite, and the Girgashite; and thou hast fulfilled thy promise, for thou art righteous.”
____________________
God bless us each and every one in the Name of the One Who is Truth
P.S.
I am not going to subscribe to this or entertain discussion. I would like to but I think I will just pray for the light of Christ to illuminate minds.