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Libertytree
18th September 2014, 04:04 PM
Would you vote for independence? Damn the potential consequences? Or, stay with the evil you already know?

Serpo
18th September 2014, 04:10 PM
Have some Scottish ancestry on my fathers side......................my view is



VOTE YES


main reason anyone voting no is because of the banks...............

crimethink
18th September 2014, 04:10 PM
I do not see any fundamental difference between a yes or no vote.

An "independent" Scotland will remain multiracial, multicultural, enthralled to the international banks, and entangled in the globalist scams of NATO and the EU.

It will be a change of flag, nothing more. Actually, a reversion to the previous. But without all that made the Scots, Scots.

Celtic Rogue
18th September 2014, 04:11 PM
"Scots wha hae wi' Wallace bled,
Scots wham Bruce has aften led,
Welcome to your gory bed
Or to Victorie!"

---Robert Burns

I would vote Aye!... To independence from the english! Its been a long time in coming!

crimethink
18th September 2014, 04:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTQuNBjxQpA

Even if the vote means nothing, let's hear it for Scotland!

EE_
18th September 2014, 04:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTQuNBjxQpA

Even if the vote means nothing, let's hear it for Scotland!

If the Scotts can pull out this win, maybe they can tell the queen to shove a big black dildo up her ass next?...followed by the IMF and UN.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLCEUpIg8rE

osoab
18th September 2014, 04:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6vDzf-wSbk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6vDzf-wSbk

crimethink
18th September 2014, 04:45 PM
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/388282/scottish-independence-campaign-borrowed-heavily-obama-tactics-john-fund

“Watching the final rally in Perth on Wednesday night was like a scaled-down version of the early Obama ones,” he writes. The pro-independence crowd chanted “Yes We Can,” the Obama campaign slogan. Also borrowed was the idea of hundreds of “yes” cards being distributed so they could be waved at critical points for the cameras. So too was the constant references to “hope” and “change” that are echoes of Obama slogans.

But MacAskill reports that “the most important import from the Obama campaign is the grassroots mobilization. The yes campaign has a myriad of groups: Africans for Scottish Independence, Cabbies for Independence, Women for Independence, groups for pensioners, and groups for the young. The Obama campaign began this way, too, building up a formidable network.”

Glass
18th September 2014, 05:29 PM
starting to sound like the answer might be no. No is a good answer at this point because it is not independence they are voting for. They are voting to change slave masters. they already have an unaccountable judiciary and policy enforcement system. A 100% unaccountable political system is what is up for grabs here.

palani
18th September 2014, 05:58 PM
If the Scotts can pull out this win, maybe they can tell the queen to shove a ...

They already have done this. Word was the Liafail stone was sent to Scotland for safekeeping during WWI (phase deuce) and the Scotts copied it and returned the copy. All monarchs of England have been crowned with this stone under the throne except for Lizzy and she sweated bullets for years hoping nobody found out.

hoarder
18th September 2014, 08:02 PM
Centralization is good for the Khazars because it takes much less manpower and work to control the masses. Fot that reason if nothing else I would vote for independence.

Libertytree
18th September 2014, 08:16 PM
I'd tell England to go pound sand, hell, they've been trying to do this for 100's of years.

Horn
18th September 2014, 08:28 PM
As much as I detest the U.K. I would vote No.

I think Scotland will gain independence because they are just a relief valve being blown for time delay failures of the Euro in Ukraine.

Horn
18th September 2014, 11:56 PM
Reunited Kingdom: Scotland says no to independence

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11327878



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9EC3Gy6Nk

EE_
19th September 2014, 12:51 AM
This failure will be a good deterrent to any other country from trying to gain their independence.

May the Scott's drown in Limey piss.

Glass
19th September 2014, 03:10 AM
there was no independence here. There was the british union or the european union as choices but no independence on any level.

Neuro
19th September 2014, 03:39 AM
This failure will be a good deterrent to any other country from trying to gain their independence.

May the Scott's drown in Limey piss.
The Scott's were more concerned about their short term economic welfare, than there children being free. Limey piss a resounding AYE!

Hitch
19th September 2014, 04:46 AM
I'd tell England to go pound sand, hell, they've been trying to do this for 100's of years.

Years ago my favorite boss was Scottish and he would use the term piss off, instead of pound sand. I always liked that term and use it on occasion. If I was Scottish, I would tell England to piss off.

EE_
19th September 2014, 05:42 AM
there was no independence here. There was the british union or the european union as choices but no independence on any level.

Didn't matter, I think it would have been symbolic. Revolution has to start somewhere.

Now, everyone get back in line and let this be a lesson that people don't want to be free.
Do not step out of line again proles!

The Shot Heard Round The World: Battle Breaks Out At Lexington
1775 Battle of Lexington

http://www.sonofthesouth.net/revolutionary-war/battles/battle-lexington.jpg

Meanwhile, after the British forces waited two hours for additional supplies at their ships, the British continued on their journey to Concord. At the town of Menotomy, Smith decided to send an advance force commanded by Major John Pitcairn to gain control of the bridges at Concord. Pitcairn was given six companies of light infantry while Smith sent a soldier to request reinforcements from Boston. Soon, Pitcairn’s troops would arrive in Lexington and meet up with the first wave of colonial minutemen.


“What a glorious morning is this!”
~ Samuel Adams, after hearing news of the Battles of Lexington and Concord

A Shot Was Fired

Following Revere’s warning to the Patriots, Captain John Parker began assembling minutemen to meet the British. After rousing approximately 137 men, they waited for the British to arrive. However, because it had taken the British two hours to receive supplies earlier in the evening, the minutemen were way ahead of schedule. Parker requested that the minutemen retire to nearby taverns until further notice while sending a few scouts from Lexington to approximate the arrival of the British. Many of these scouts were not seen again due to British arrest. One scout, Thaddeus Bowman, did return; he had narrowly escaped arrest by British soldiers and Pitcairn’s advance troop was only half a mile behind him. Captain Parker hastily assembled his minutemen again. When Pitcairn’s forces and Parker’s minutemen met, there were 77 minutemen prepared to fight nearly 250 British soldiers. A shot was fired; although it’s not clear which side fired first. More shots ensued. After the fight came to a close, eight Americans were dead and ten were wounded. This is in comparison to one wounded British soldier and several bullet wounds in Pitcairn’s horse.

Serpo
19th September 2014, 01:06 PM
'SCOTLAND INDEPENDENCE VOTE' WAS RIGGED!
http://i.imgur.com/9e3m8dj.png




http://investmentwatchblog.com/shocking-more-blatent-vote-rigging-during-scottish-independence-count-in-edinburgh/ (http://investmentwatchblog.com/shocking-more-blatent-vote-rigging-during-scottish-independence-count-in-edinburgh/)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUR-HgAtwtg




http://i.imgur.com/PgRbeOf.jpg

Horn
19th September 2014, 06:00 PM
Maybe if the answer was YES, the metals would've done better today?

They certainly couldn't have done any worse.

osoab
19th September 2014, 06:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZUKEVU-TwM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZUKEVU-TwM

Glass
19th September 2014, 06:29 PM
well there was no revolution there so thats a big stretch. It was a vote, using paper and there was no freedom on offer. If they wanted change then they would leave the british union and join no other union. But they were hell bent of jumping straight back into the fire with even less protections for the people than they have now.

The upside is the paedophile protector salmon is gone. That is a real positive change and should only be the begining. They need to purge their country of the dogs that are messing all over the place.

crimethink
19th September 2014, 07:27 PM
'SCOTLAND INDEPENDENCE VOTE' WAS RIGGED!

"If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it."

Attributed to Mark Twain


"If voting really changed things, it would be illegal."

A modern variant

Hatha Sunahara
20th September 2014, 09:36 AM
Who says feudalism is a relic of the past? It's alive and well in Scotland.



Hatha

Ponce
20th September 2014, 01:51 PM
A country that has a government from another country is not a free country. "If you don't hold it, you don't own it"... Ponce
V

Serpo
20th September 2014, 02:33 PM
List of countries that have gained independence from the United Kingdom

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_that_have_gained_independence_fr om_the_United_Kingdom


Countries or territories that have rejected independence



Country
Date
Year of rejection
Notes


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/Flag_of_Scotland.svg/46px-Flag_of_Scotland.svg.png Scotland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland)
19 September
2014
In the Scottish Independence Referendum 2014 (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Scottish_Independence_Referendum_2 014&action=edit&redlink=1) voters rejected the offer of independence from the United Kingdom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom), making Scotland the only known country to reject the chance of independence. While many countries and territories have made great sacrifices in the pursuit of independence, Scotland was offered the chance of independence through a peaceful and democratic process, but chose to remain a part of the Union.

Serpo
20th September 2014, 02:36 PM
Maybe if the answer was YES, the metals would've done better today?

They certainly couldn't have done any worse.

http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2014/9/20_Russians_Stunned_As_Chinese_Leader_Pushes_Gold_ Backed_Yuan.html

Hypertiger
20th September 2014, 02:52 PM
http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2014/9/20_Russians_Stunned_As_Chinese_Leader_Pushes_Gold_ Backed_Yuan.html

It was not an independence vote...YES or NO all rules passed in the Parliaments have to be supplied to the monarch for royal assent.

"Royal Assent is the method by which a country's constitutional monarch formally approves an act of that nation's parliament, thus making it a law or letting it be promulgated as law."

Presidential Assent is the method by which a country's constitutional president formally approves an act of that nation's congress, thus making it a law or letting it be promulgated as law.

It starts out as a bill...demanding to be paid.

and when it is given royal/presidential assent...The "government" which is an administration system of the absolute capitalist hierarchical food powered make work enterprise.

Is then free to force you to believe a rule of the game you are playing is LAW...or else.

The progression of the absolute capitalist, tyrant, or ruler.

Persuasion force annihilation.

Please believe the lie (rule) promoted as Truth (LAW) is Truth (LAW) or else be annihilated.

Please believe the false GOD promoted as GOD is GOD or else be excommunicated from the church of the Universe.

People have no power to make or break LAW.

All that people have the power to make and break are rules and to claim rules are LAW.

But if a rule attempts to break LAW.

LAW will break the rule.

You can manipulate the Universe however you desire as long as you are not caught breaking a rule or attempt to break LAW.

Hypertiger
20th September 2014, 03:06 PM
Canada has not gained independence.

The prime minister...Is the Prime minister of her majesty's Government.

The Governor General of Canada is the head of state and all rules passed in Parliament have to be sent to the Governor General for royal assent...The Governor general signs for her majesty.

All the provinces have governor generals to supply provincial legislation with royal assent.

And all the civil servants in the Canadian government...At all levels are servants of the monarch...or Queen's agents.

The Monarch has all the power which is delegated down from them...

That is where all the Government agents in Canada drive their authority from.

Ultimately the power comes from the population or slaves and supplied to the master.

but as long as a population of slaves choose to believe their master or fake GOD is GOD.

They will believe the fake GOD has magical powers to rule the Universe.

It is why Obama is looking so bad.

The invisible powers that be...installed Obama...or gave him power...and now that his usefulness to buy time and distance from 2008 is done...They are cutting off the magical power...and he is looking powerless.

Obama is nothing more than an installed puppet to take the fall for it all...a scapegoat.

Serpo
20th September 2014, 03:48 PM
same with OZ and NZ

Ponce
20th September 2014, 04:13 PM
Words can be backed up only by the gun, and as long as the politicians have control of us only our guns will have control over them.

V

Serpo
20th September 2014, 04:47 PM
Fear And Loathing In Scotland – Why The "NO"s Won & Lessons Learned From The Vote http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden)
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Submitted by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog (http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2014/09/19/fear-and-loathing-in-scotland-why-the-nos-won-and-lessons-learned-from-the-vote/),
Yesterday morning, as I sat down for my ritualistic dose of caffeine and began to write, I noticed that I had auspiciously planted myself in front of two older women from the UK. One was from Scotland, the other from somewhere else in the United Kingdom with an accent I couldn’t quite place. The non-Scottish woman asked her friend for thoughts on the independence referendum. The Scottish woman replied that she would have voted “YES,” but that her friends were all voting “NO.” She said that “they were afraid.”
Upon overhearing this, I felt a pit form in my stomach. Almost all of the enthusiasm that I had for the day was immediately drained. Not only was I excited to see a historically defiant and proud people vote for independence, but yesterday marked the launch of the Contributor section (http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2014/09/18/introducing-liberty-blitzkrieg-contributors/) of Liberty Blitzkrieg. It was a big day for me, yet all of a sudden it was as if the atmosphere suddenly evaporated and despair filled the air. Although no results had yet been reported, I knew the result. It was going to be NO.
I’m pretty sure I have absolutely zero Scottish blood in me, but I felt a strong sense of pride and camaraderie with the rebellious northerners. They had a chance to really kickstart a peaceful process of political decentralization that would spread like brushfire across the world. From Caledonia to Catalonia. From Quebec to these United States. It would have been an unstoppable force. It would be humanity proudly waving a flag of liberty and saying we can be fully integrated within the world at large without being ruled from a centralized power far from where we live. This is my dream and vision for the future and I was hopeful the Scots could lead the way. Unfortunately, this did not happen.
In the wake of the results, I have witnessed a great deal of bitterness and anger about the vote. While I can relate to such sentiments, I try to take a much more constructive and optimistic approach to the future. First and foremost, we should all be proud that the vote happened at all. So many people within the so-called “liberty movement” are discouragingly extreme pessimists. While proclaiming to fight for liberty, many of them seem to think we are powerless in the face of the powerful. To them, the independence referendum is proof that nothing can ever be changed. I completely disagree with this perspective.
The vote did happen, and the people of Scotland were given a choice. They said NO. I have always maintained that my vision of the future is not a world homogeneously looking like the type of community I personally want to live in, but rather a planet consisting of an almost infinite variety of different, autonomous, interacting, and prosperous communities. There will be so many choices, and such freedom of movement, that pretty much anyone of any disposition can find a place they feel they fit in and can call home. Nobody is ever subject to a life sentence within a particular political structure they had no role in creating just because they happened to be born there.
So that’s my vision, but how are we supposed to get there? Well for one thing, via powerful political movements such as the ones the Scots just pulled off. As a result of this movement, the people of Scotland were given a very important choice. A choice that 99.9% of the humans who have ever lived on planet earth have never had. This in itself is an important achievement. If the Scots voted NO, who am I or anyone else to say they made the right or wrong decision? They were given a real choice, a vote that actually mattered for once, and for that we should be encouraged. As I noted on Twitter yesterday:
Although I specifically mentioned the U.S., the above sentiment applies to the entire world. People everywhere should frequently hold direct referendums on specific issues that matter to them. The idea of representative democracy, in which we select some captured politician who will merely vote along the lines of special interests is outdated, immoral, childish and feudal. Recall the Princeton study (http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2014/04/16/new-report-from-princeton-and-northwestern-proves-it-the-u-s-is-an-oligarchy/) that showed the U.S. is an oligarchy where the will of the people have zero effect on policy. So clearly we already know the status quo is not working for the vast majority of people.
So with that big picture vision out of the way, are there any positives those who favor decentralization can take from Scotland’s independence referendum other than the fact dedicated people actually made it happen? Yes, I believe there are many important takeaways, several of which are instructive going forward.
First, there’s the fact that fear was a driving force behind the NO voters. Fear is something I spent a lot of time addressing in posts several years ago. Fear is necessary in a very small number of scenarios we face as humans, but it is unfortunately applied in myriad situations where it makes our situations worse, not better. Fear is what allows despots to take and retain power. Fear is what keeps you from living life and achieving your goals. Fear is paralyzing. Fear makes a people reject their own independence.
Recall that the older lady yesterday (I would guess she was in her 70s) stated that her friends were all voting NO because they were “afraid.” This line took an increased level of significance for me later in the day as I was reading a lengthly article in the UK Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11081025/Scottish-independence-campaign-as-it-happened-18-September-2014.html) and came across the following quote:
http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Screen-Shot-2014-09-19-at-10.09.11-AM.jpg
So with that in mind, it’s important to ask, who was fearful and why?
With the results now finalized, we have some definitive answers to this question. The post referendum polling done by Lord Ashcroft (http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2014/09/scotland-voted/) has been going around Twitter this morning, and the results are simply incredible. See below:
http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Screen-Shot-2014-09-19-at-10.28.56-AM.jpg
The NO vote was entirely secured by overwhelming support from those aged above 55. In fact, the “better together” camp failed to win any of the age groups below 55 years of age. For the 65+ crowd it was simply a blowout. 73% of them voted NO. So in a nutshell, old people filled with fear blocked independence. Similarly, fearful old people bailed out the banks in the U.S. several years ago, putting a nail in the coffin of the middle class and the youth generally. See what I am getting at here?
What we now know for certain is that old people in positions of wealth and power, and the ability to frighten others of their generation, is proving to be the most significant obstacle to global change. For those of us who wish to see paradigm shifting changes, this is a very positive realization. For starters, the older generation will gradually fade away, and the promises made to them via pensions will not be on the table for younger generations. Pensions were a huge issue for the 65+ crowd when it came down to their voting decisions. The BBC noted (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-26354467) that:

A recent BBC poll (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-26102076) found that pensions came second in a list of the 10 things that mattered most to voters – only the economy was deemed more important.
The economy and pensions. So basically old people on the way out felt like they had a reasonable handle on what to expect under the current regime, and didn’t want to rock the boat. It’s really as simple as that.
Going forward, the older generation problem will naturally resolve itself. So we know that the youth will be deciding the future. Thus, the real question becomes, what will influence the youth?
As a result of the horrific and self-interested choices of older generations, the youth will be left with a much more difficult and uncertain future. This is already happening, but it will worsen considerably following the next severe economic decline, likely to start in late 2015.
My biggest concern is that fear will be used to drive the passions of the youth, rather than constructive, positive influences. We know that fear is an extremely powerful driver, and it more often than not leads to disastrous decision making. There is no doubt that the youth will decide the future, but will their passions be driven by negative emotions like fear, or positive sentiments like creativity, compassion and community? Only time will tell, but its up to us to be aware of this dynamic, understand exactly what is at stake, and attempt influence the outcome as positively as possible.




http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-20/fear-and-loathing-scotland-%E2%80%93-why-nos-won-lessons-learned-vote

Hatha Sunahara
22nd September 2014, 02:09 PM
What we saw in Scotland is a good explanation of why the elite are the most enthusiastic supporters of 'democracy'. I put it in quotes because the 'democracy' I'm referring to is the way the elite see it, and it differs significantly from the way to masses see it. In order to grasp this difference, you have to consider who controls all the resources and the money available in society. That gives them all the power. If you don't want to be cut off from societal resources, you better give the elite what they want. And this is where Democracy suits their purposes. It hides the fact that the elite control the society, and creates an image in the imaginations of the masses that 'there is power in numbers'. There really is no power in numbers if the laws favor the elite, and everybody believes the laws should be obeyed so there is an orderly society. Nobody questions whose order will prevail. For all practical purposes, 'democracy' as it exists today worldwide, means a ratification by the masses for what the elite want. Any time anything is put up for a vote, the outcome is predetermined; if the outcome cannot be predetermined, there is no vote. Outcomes are predetermined either by propaganda based mind control, or vote fraud. Propaganda aims to split the population into roughly equal numbers either for or against an issue. Vote fraud fine tunes the numbers so that what the elite want is ratified by as small a margin that's necessary to define a 'majority'.

If you are one of the 'masses' and you sense that you belong to the real majority, but time after time, the 'vote' goes against what you and most of the other people want, it's because of the 'democracy' defined by the elite--not what you believe democracy is. If you can remember the kind of contempt the western elite had for communist countries who described themselves as 'Democratic Republics'--like The Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea, then you grasp my point. Those descriptions lacked subtlety, so that even the slowest and least bright among the population were not fooled by the deception. If you don't call attention to the deception, it works much better. And the elite always pretend there is no deception involved no matter how absurd the result of an election appears. People forget it quickly and move on. That is what is happening in Scotland right now. Next up for a vote is Catalonia, in notheast Spain. My guess is that despite Catalonians favoring independence from Spain by a wide margin, their 'vote' will fail too. And they will forget about it and move on with the status quo.

Somehow, in the USA, the elit must have figured out that marijuana makes people more sensitive to suggestion, and therefore makes propaganda more effective, and blunts the outrage of perceived vote fraud. IMHO, this is the reason we are seeing a widespread series of successful 'votes' to legalize marijuana. I believe marijuana legalization will actually help the elite to keep the masses enslaved longer.



Hatha

Cebu_4_2
22nd September 2014, 02:26 PM
All these people saying Scotland didn't want independence yet no talk about the rigged counting? FFS they don't even use diebold.

Serpo
22nd September 2014, 03:53 PM
70,000 Scots Demand New After Rigging Claims (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/scottish-independence-70000-nationalists-demand-referendum-be-re-held-after-vote-rigging-claims-1466416)

Was Scottish Indy Referendum Rigged To Fail? (http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/09/20/voter-fraud-was-the-scottish-independence-referendum-rigged-to-fail/) 47% YES Inverness Can't Find ANY NO Voters (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/21/inverness-i-am-devastated-no-vote)
Salmond - NO Voters Were 'Tricked' - Another Vote? (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11111705/Alex-Salmond-says-No-voters-were-tricked.html)
Craig Murray - What Did You Expect? (http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/09/what-did-you-expect/)
Scotland's Youth Heartbroken, Angry, Resolute (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/21/scottish-independence-disbelief-at-defeat)
Put Scotland In Control Of Scottish Broadcasting (http://www.thepetitionsite.com/574/697/105/put-scotland-in-control-of-scottish-broadcasting/)
Scot Anger Grows Over Broken Devo Pledge (http://newsnetscotland.com/index.php/scottish-news/9771-bbc-broadcasts-brown-speech-as-anger-grows-over-broken-devo-pledge)
Glasgow 'Riots' Hoax Pictures From London Riots (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/scottish-independence/glasgow-riots-dishonest-social-media-users-accused-of-fuelling-panic-with-pictures-from-london-riots-9745736.html)
5,000 New SNP Members In Wake Of Vote (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/snp-welcomes-5000-new-members-wake-scotland-independence-defeat-1466427)
Salmond 'Will Never Set Foot In House Of Lords (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/scottish-independence/alex-salmond-the-rocks-would-melt-with-the-sun-before-id-ever-set-foot-in-the-house-of-lords-9746710.html)


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crimethink
22nd September 2014, 07:49 PM
All these people saying Scotland didn't want independence yet no talk about the rigged counting? FFS they don't even use diebold.

Literal ballot stuffing occurred.

Additionally, large numbers of non-Scots were allowed to vote. If you were a "British Commonwealth" citizen "resident in Scotland," you were allowed to vote. But if you were a Scot living overseas, you were not allowed to vote.

Cebu_4_2
22nd September 2014, 07:54 PM
Literal ballot stuffing occurred.

Additionally, large numbers of non-Scots were allowed to vote. If you were a "British Commonwealth" citizen "resident in Scotland," you were allowed to vote. But if you were a Scot living overseas, you were not allowed to vote.

What if a bunch of mexicans came over for free, got food and shelter free and they could vote? ~ OT

Anyways, the rigging is blatent obvious, that one lady doing counting should be hung right after an official re-count. What about other tapes that got out of the country? I would love to put a bunch of videos together.

Glass
22nd September 2014, 09:05 PM
the main issue here is why do they want to break up the UK. The answer is the constitution and Royal rule.

In all commonwealth countries they are undergoing revisions of the "Constitutions" of those nations. In Australia they are modifying the constitution to "Recognise the Aborigine People". In Canada they are going to modify their constitution although I am not sure what their grounds/excuse/reason is.

Those reasons are not the real reasons. They have other badly hidden agendas.

Now, after the "failed" No Vote in the UK, they will be moving to modify the UK constitution .

The reason they are doing this is because of the UK constitution and the Successsion Act 1701. I have raised this issue before.

The royal lineage ends with Elizabeth the II. There are no heirs under the current law situation. She is unable to field an heir because,
A) she cannot field any males due to the split of the royal seat of power into the Lord High Admiral (Elizabeth II) and the Lord High Constable (currently 2 remaining claimants to this sear of power after the Australian claimant died approx 3 years ago.
B) All of her female descendants are catholic and are thereby disqualified to take the reigns.

So there is much going on in the back ground and a quick search would confirm multiple nations of the commonwealth all changing their constitutions to enable George to be the next King. No male can take the throne because there is no authority in the current monach and no female because all of them would be in breach of the Settlement Act UK 1701.

They have no other way. The constitutions must be changed and they need to be changed in each commonwealth country or that country falls out of the domain of the crown. I have posted previously what we, the plebs what do to is to change nothing. If 1 country fails to change their constitutions to allow George to rule then they are free.

Let me repeat that. FREE. And the way to be free is to do nothing. Let them GTH. Don't change the constitutions. It's that freaking simple.

So it's not about Scottish freedom, never was.

palani
23rd September 2014, 05:17 AM
Don't change the constitutions. Did the U.K. ever have a written constitution? The British always were proud of their unwritten constitution .... I think maybe to be in conformance with their unwritten law ... even bragging that the lack of detail permitted them rapid response to any developing situation.


So it's not about Scottish freedom, never was. No Scottish Autumn?

My ex-notary (deceased) had a Scottish husband. She was telling me how he was convicted of fishing in Scotland under situations where an Englishman fishing next to him in the same circumstance would not have been arrested. The case was taken all the way to the Hague but I don't recall the outcome.