View Full Version : 'scotland independence vote' was rigged!
Serpo
19th September 2014, 12:43 PM
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EE_
19th September 2014, 01:20 PM
Sure it was rigged. The results should be thrown out and a new vote allowed.
A lot of the people against Scotland's independence were all the people we've known to be evil and liars.
Seeing them, you knew it was a good thing for Scotland.
Serpo
19th September 2014, 01:24 PM
http://aanirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/vote-fraud-in-scottish-referendum.html
(http://aanirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/vote-fraud-in-scottish-referendum.html) Russia cries foul over Scottish independence vote Russian observers say referendum count took place in rooms that were too big and did not meet international standards
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Russia (http://www.theguardian.com/world/russia) has said the conduct of the Scottish referendum "did not meet international standards" (http://ria.ru/world/20140919/1024703912.html), with its observers complaining the count took place in rooms that were too big and that the procedure was badly flawed.
In an apparent attempt to mirror persistent western criticism of Russia's own elections, Igor Borisov – an accredited observer – said the poll failed to meet basic international norms.
Borisov and three other Russians arrived in Edinburgh on Wednesday evening, the state news agency Ria Novosti reported. (http://ria.ru/world/20140919/1024703912.html)The team from Moscow's Public Institute of Suffrage watched voting take place in the Scottish capital and the surrounding area. It also met with Scottish politicians, voters and representatives from non-governmental organisations, Ria said.
Borisov said he was unimpressed by what he saw. He said the room where he watched the count on Thursday night was a cavernous "aircraft hangar" next to an airfield. It was difficult to see what was going on, he said, adding: "The hangar is approximately 100m by 300m. There are tables, with voting papers stacked upon them, but the observers are stuck around the perimeter. Even if you want to, it's impossible to tell what's happening. It's also unclear where the boxes with ballot papers come from."
Borisov said the US state department, the UK and other western countries loudly hectored the Kremlin about Russia's supposed democratic deficiencies. But in this instance, he said, London and Edinburgh had not "fully met" the requirements of a proper referendum.
"Nobody was interested in who was bringing in the voting slips. There were no stamps or signatures as the bulletins were handed over," he said.
Supporters of the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, had been fervently hoping for a yes vote. Some Russian nationalists had even fixed yes badges to their Twitter profiles, with one –Konstantin Rykov (https://twitter.com/rykov) – adding a "Mc" to the front of his Cyrillic surname. (The badge and "Mc" had disappeared by Friday morning). The Kremlin apparently saw Scottish independence (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/scottish-independence) as a way of justifying its own hasty annexation of Crimea in March, following a "referendum" conducted in just three weeks and condemned by the west, as armed Russian forces and irregulars swarmed over the Crimean peninsula. Moscow also felt that a yes vote would weaken the UK and bring to power a post-independence Scottish government more amenable to Moscow's wishes. Alex Salmond, Scotland (http://www.theguardian.com/uk/scotland)'s first minister, expressed qualified admiration for President Putin in an interview with GQ (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/apr/28/alex-salmond-vladimir-putin-nigel-farage-angela-merkel) in March.
The Kremlin propaganda channel RT, meanwhile, speculated that the result might have been rigged and expressed surprise at the "North Korean" levels of turnout.
Afshin Rattansi, the presenter of RT's Going Underground show, said there were "international considerations", such as the UK's nuclear deterrent, which had affected the outcome. He said: "With the vote as close as this, with the mainstream media on one side, with a massive amount of people from Westminster running up to beg Scotland the other way, and certain recounts in certain bits of the poll, which way did the vote go, really?"
He added: "It is normally the sort of turnout you would expect in North Korea. Usually media here would go 'we don't believe it. How can it be nearly 90%?'"
On Friday the Donetsk People's Republic - the Ukrainian rebel enclave - said that it, too, believed the Scottish referendum had been falsified. Miroslav Rudenko, a member of the republic's self-declared supreme council, said he suspected the UK government was guilty of foul play. "I don't rule out that the British authorities have falsified the results of this referendum. The difference between those who voted in favour of independence and against it is not so great," he told the Russian news agency Interfax (http://www.interfax-russia.ru/South/special.asp?id=541926&sec=1724).
Rudenko said the west was guilty of "double-standards". It had allowed a referendum in Scotland but refused one for Donestk and Luhansk, the rebel enclaves where separatists backed by Kremlin firepower are fighting Ukrainian troops.
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Twisted Titan
19th September 2014, 02:31 PM
I havent been following this closely is scottland trying to leave the EU or join it ?
Serpo
19th September 2014, 02:38 PM
I havent been following this closely is scottland trying to leave the EU or join it ?
Trying to leave Great Britain and become independent............
crimethink
19th September 2014, 06:39 PM
I havent been following this closely is scottland trying to leave the EU or join it ?
Trying to change flags to give the illusion of "independence." The "new" Scotland promised by Alex Salmond would have been multiracial, multicultural, enthralled to the banks, and entangled in the globalist NATO and EU swindles. Just like the old.
Sparky
19th September 2014, 07:13 PM
Trying to leave Great Britain and become independent............
Actually, trying to leave the United Kingdom. Great Britain is the island comprised of England, Scotland, and Wales. Scotland can't leave the island. The United Kingdom is comprised of the countries on Great Britain, plus Northern Ireland.
That's today's geography lesson. ;-)
Dogman
19th September 2014, 07:19 PM
Actually, trying to leave the United Kingdom. Great Britain is the island comprised of England, Scotland, and Wales. Scotland can't leave the island. The United Kingdom is comprised of the countries on Great Britain, plus Northern Ireland.
That's today's geography lesson. ;-)
That sounds, so, so midieval!
Don't you know hope floats?
;)
Serpo
20th September 2014, 02:23 AM
Actually, trying to leave the United Kingdom. Great Britain is the island comprised of England, Scotland, and Wales. Scotland can't leave the island. The United Kingdom is comprised of the countries on Great Britain, plus Northern Ireland.
That's today's geography lesson. ;-)
Bizarre: This piece of chicken looks like a map of the UK without Scotland, according to the man who found it
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2756567/Is-omen-referendum-The-cloud-looks-like-map-UK-Scotland-taken-away.html#ixzz3DqWbftiP
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/09/16/1410875785556_wps_47_KFC_UK_It_wasn_t_just_the.jpg
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Serpo
20th September 2014, 02:52 AM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/09/19/1411147613540_wps_1_The_Queen_photographed_ex.jpgT he Queen is said to look forward to her annual retreat to Balmoral and was concerned over independence............haha
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2762718/A-result-United-Kingdom-respect-The-Queen-responds-Scottish-referendum-decision.html#ixzz3Dqdrfs00
Neuro
20th September 2014, 04:06 AM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/09/19/1411147613540_wps_1_The_Queen_photographed_ex.jpgT he Queen is said to look forward to her annual retreat to Balmoral and was concerned over independence............haha
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2762718/A-result-United-Kingdom-respect-The-Queen-responds-Scottish-referendum-decision.html#ixzz3Dqdrfs00
Fortunately she had loyal servants among the vote counters...
EE_
20th September 2014, 04:28 AM
Now that Scotland remains in the UK we still call the people in Scotland "British, or Brit's".
Had Scotland gained their independence the people would be called "Scottish, or Scot's".
Is this how it works?
Neuro
20th September 2014, 04:30 AM
Now that Scotland remains in the UK we still call the people in Scotland "British, or Brit's".
Had Scotland gained their independence the people would be called "Scottish, or Scot's".
Is this how it works?
Castrates works...
Sparky
20th September 2014, 08:30 AM
Now that Scotland remains in the UK we still call the people in Scotland "British, or Brit's".
Had Scotland gained their independence the people would be called "Scottish, or Scot's".
Is this how it works?
This makes for an interesting question. The United Kingdom is made up of Great Britain (England, Scotland, Wales) plus Northern Ireland. The large island on which is lies is also referred to as Great Britain. So technically, one could argue that they would still be part of "Great Britain", and therefore British.
Also note the wording of the ballot question, which makes reference to neither the UK or GB: "Should Scotland be an independent country?"
Hatha Sunahara
20th September 2014, 08:53 AM
There are two movies that sum up Scottish politics really well. One is Braveheart which took place around 1300, and is the original of what is playing out today at the ballot box, but it was on the battlefield. The movie captured the politics well--with the evil nobles among the Scots and the evil King of England. The other movie was Rob Roy, which was set at around 1750. That was another showcase of good and evil set in Scotland. There was a profound but overlooked line in that movie uttered by Jessica Lange about not being able to tell the truths from a lie. It was another presentation of the evil nobility versus the pristine innocent naive commoners who had a sense of honor, and how ultimately disputes are settled violently in battle. The lesson learned from both movies is that voting resolves nothing. Bloodshed resolves much.
And speaking of violence in Scotland, who has not gotten an education about Scotland from watching MacBeth? What is the matter with today's Scots? Are they afraid to shed a little blood?
Hatha
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