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mick silver
21st September 2014, 11:44 AM
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/09/12/christians-enraged-with-cruz-over-israel.html ... Ted Cruz’s was booed off stage after addressing Middle Eastern Christians, now faces a backlash from key Christian writers and thinkers.
Christian writers are incensed with Sen. Ted Cruz, and argue that the Texas senator is putting politics before his fellow religious brethren.
Cruz was the keynote speaker Wednesday evening at a dinner put on by In Defense of Christians, a group dedicated to raising awareness about persecuted Christians in the Middle East. During his speech, the Texas senator argued that Christians have "no greater ally" than Israel. Soon after, heckling from the crowd cut off his remarks, and an address that started by emphasizing the unity of Christians ended with shouting and disagreement.
"If you will not stand with Israel and the Jews, then I will not stand with you," Cruz told the audience as he walked off the stage. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0H8j3aYD7M)

Much of his pro-Israel conservative base would have had no problem with these comments, so Cruz may not have expected a backlash. But the response among key Christian thinkers and writers was fierce and immediate.
Cruz was accused of ignorance about the dynamics of Middle Eastern Christianity; of suggesting that he would not stand with Christians who didn't agree with his political stance on Israel; even of orchestrating a crass stunt on the backs of persecuted Christians.
"Sen. Ted Cruz suggested that holding the same political views on Israel was more important than the fellowship we share as Christians," Mollie Hemingway, a senior writer at The Federalist, a conservative website, told The Daily Beast. "We shouldn't fight the global persecution of Christians only if the victims share our political views."
Added Mark Tooley, the president of the Institute on Religion and Democracy: "Must overseas Christians pass a political litmus test, even if it further endangers them, to gain American support and sympathy?"
Jeff King, the president of the watchdog group International Christian Concern, said that Cruz was "off-topic and rude" (the crowd was rude too, King added), but mainly did not understand the nuances of the persecuted Christian minority groups he was addressing.
"They can't be pro-Israel where they live, because they will get the snot beaten out of them or worse. If you don't understand the dynamics going in… you've got to question what he was thinking," King said. "He just doesn't understand the reality of Middle Eastern Christians."
Others went so far as to question whether Cruz purposely went to the conference as a stunt, that he was aware of the dynamics and wanted to show that he would support Israel in front of an audience where this would be unpopular.
"He used arguably the most persecuted and powerless minority in the world, Middle Eastern Christians, who are supposed to be his brethren in Christ, as a prop for a self-aggrandizing political stunt," said Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry, a Catholic writer, in The Week.

"Must overseas Christians pass a political litmus test, even if it further endangers them, to gain American support and sympathy?"


New York Times columnist Ross Douthat was particularly scathing, pointing out that Cruz’s “co-religionists are being murdered.”
“[B]y making a statement at *this* event, he basically flipped the bird to people and churches that are dying right now,” he tweeted. (https://twitter.com/DouthatNYT/status/510454296119226368)

Some conservative websites weighed in in support of Cruz, but may have overstepped in doing so—with two websites implying that the Middle Eastern Christians present at the event were not Christians at all.
Both Breitbart News (https://twitter.com/joshgreenman/status/510274513775628289/photo/1) and Townhall (http://townhall.com/tipsheet/danieldoherty/2014/09/11/christian-tolerance-ted-cruz-walks-off-stage-after-crowd-boos-him-for-proisrael-remarks-n1890339) wrote defenses that put the word “Christian” in scare quotes—as if those who heckled Cruz might not appropriately be termed so. Breitbart has since taken down the quotation marks.
Christian writers were mixed on whether Cruz’s remarks could have an enduring political effect.
"There are potential repercussions—particularly if this becomes a trend. To be sure, there is often a stark dichotomy between so-called opinion leaders and rank and file believers. But there's a reason they're called leaders," Daily Caller writer Matt Lewis, who was critical of Cruz’s speech, told the Beast. "The folks who have voiced concern about his actions buy ink by the barrel and paper by the ton, and people turn to them for interpreting events. There is always the potential for this sort of thing to trickle down."
Countered Tooley, "Religious persecution has rarely been major issue in electoral politics.”
Democrats might also seek to capitalize on Cruz’s statement. Michael Wear, a strategist who led White House evangelical outreach during President Obama's first term, said that Republican “voters will be looking for a candidate who can support Israel without demeaning an audience gathered to defend persecuted religious groups, a cause Senator Cruz has now distracted from in order to defend himself.”
Catherine Frazier, a Cruz spokeswoman, told the Beast that the senator will continue to speak out on behalf of religious minorities everywhere, and has made a point of bringing public attention to persecuted Christians in particular.
"He does not agree or stand with those who do not believe that Israel has the right to exist as a Jewish state," Frazier said. "But that does not change his passion and priority for standing with persecuted Christians across the region and across the world."
In the meantime, however, Cruz’s remarks appear to have at least temporarily shattered Christian solidarity on the issue of persecuted Christian minorities.
“Fighting persecution of Christians is a unifying message among voters, particularly on the right,” Hemingway said. “For better or worse, Cruz's political speech may have broken that unity.”


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mick silver
21st September 2014, 11:45 AM
dam right out of his f...ing mouth ..."If you will not stand with Israel and the Jews, then I will not stand with you," Cruz told the audience as he walked off the stage. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0H8j3aYD7M)

Shami-Amourae
21st September 2014, 12:00 PM
http://firstlightforum.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/666.png

You cannot confess to be a follower of Jesus Christ and bear the Mark of the Beast on your heart.

EE_
21st September 2014, 01:57 PM
Nicely played my minion friend, Satan is proud of you!

http://www.texemarrs.com/images/netanyahu_cruz.jpg

Hypertiger
21st September 2014, 02:08 PM
"If you will not stand with Israel and the Jews, then I will not stand with you,"

Then cruz on over to Israel...To the nearest IDF recruiting office and back up that talk with the walk...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mItWsC8RtM

Hypertiger
21st September 2014, 02:15 PM
What do you all suggest for Isreal...force evacuate the population out...and to where?

Your crying is an effect...or symptom.

How are you going to cure or solve the problem that jolly old England dumped on the good ol US of A?

The USA is the false GOD that protects Israel.

All in the USA are slaves and servants of the false GOD or lie worshiped as Truth.

Dachsie
21st September 2014, 02:23 PM
Cruz said...

the Texas senator argued that Christians have "no greater ally" than Israel.

For the last two millennia, Christians and the entire world have had no greater enemy than the synagogue of Satan.

Nobody, especially true Christians whose lives are on the line every day, want the likes of you, Ted Cruz, standing with them.

Ted Cruz is very likely a "Christian Zionist" which in the USA is basically a dispensationalist evangelical Christian, although I doubt he even rises to that level of false Christianity.

True Christians, especially the many martyrs who dies for Christ, especially early martyrs who would not deny Christ but chose instead to be thrown to the lions are the picture of what a true follower of Christ is.

We soft Americans and Westerners have a weakened fake Christianity permeated with many false gospels. We should pray for the Christians in the Middle East and get money and help to them however we can because they are the true followers of Christ and our true brothers and sisters.

Cruz is just another disgusting neocon. His grandfather was on the side of Fidel Castro and Che Quevera in the Cuban revolution. Batista's guards torturned Crus's grandfather in prison so one would think Cruz would be on the Left end of the political spectrum, but he gives every fake indication that he is a conservative Republican. What a hoot!

I do not know how Cruz morphed into a dispensationalist Southern Baptist but it appears to have happened.

This explains Cruz’s dispensationalist “Christian Zionism”

http://ballotpedia.org/Ted_Cruz

High school: Second Baptist High

Religion: Southern Baptist

A very large percentage of Baptists are Freemasons and Dispensationalist Zionist Christians"


"If you will not stand with Israel and the Jews, then I will not stand with you,"

The last thing true Christians in the Middle East who may be brutally martyred any day is a bunch of fake US "Christians" threatening to not stand with them. Any Christian I would call a Christian ought to be bitterly ashamed of Cruz and his ilk.

Pray for these dear brothers and sisters in Christ and try to send money to them if you can. Do not expect ANY USA Church to make a strong stand for these dear souls because they have all sold out to the Protestants and the revolutionary Jews.

Hypertiger
21st September 2014, 02:29 PM
The false GOD is the demand for power from GOD

The slaves and servants of the false GOD or lie believed to be Truth or GOD are the supply of power from GOD.

You all are supplied with all the power you have from GOD...You all can choose to use or abuse this power as you see fit.

But if you are ignorant of Truth or GOD...You do not know right from wrong or use from abuse.

The voters are poor slaves...Cruz is the rich servant of the false GOD or lie worshiped as Truth.

The subjects of every state (Bottom) ought to contribute towards the support of the government (TOP), as nearly as possible in proportion to the revenue which they respectively enjoy under the protection of the state."--Adam Smith, Wealth of Nations 1776

"Governments of the absolute capitalistic hierarchical food powered make work enterprise are administration systems of the enterprise constructed and sustained by the bottom or employees at the demand of the top or owners of the absolute capitalistic hierarchical food powered make work enterprise"--Hypertiger

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."--Most worshipful master George Washington

"The worshippers (rich servants) of the compounding interest equation (false GOD/master) will bear its burdens without complaint and perhaps without even suspecting that the equation is inimical to their interests while those who follow the worshippers (poor slaves) will complain about the effects but will be ignorant of the cause."--Hypertiger

Mt 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mt 7:22
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many good works?
Mt 7:23
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Yikes someone called Matthew said someone called Jesus said the above...I say the below.

"All in the absolute capitalist system that do not resist it...Support and eventually worship iniquity as the path to salvation."--Hypertiger

“Be cautious in your words and carriage, that the most penetrating stranger shall not be able to discover or find out what is not proper intimated; and sometimes you shall divert a discourse, and manage it prudently for the honour of the worshipful fraternity.”

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

"When plunder (Taking more power than you give or absolute capitalism) becomes a way of life for a group of men (worshipful absolute capitalist masters) living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a (Rule) legal system that authorizes it and a moral code (Religion) that glorifies it." --Frederic Bastiat...The LAW

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Ponce
21st September 2014, 02:45 PM
Does not matter who is talking but who is listening and it does not matter what they hear but what they believe, we are all pre programed to believe in something but you can break that chain by believing in what you believe on your own and that can be done by listening to more than one, reading more than one and talking to more than one.......when reading think of the why the news is the news is there and who will benefit or who it will hurt, the news is not there for no reason.

V

crimethink
21st September 2014, 02:48 PM
Canadian-born Ted Cruz stands with those who deny the Messiah over those who love the Messiah. He is fully exposed.

But some people still want this not-a-natural-born-citizen to run for President?

Hypertiger
21st September 2014, 03:04 PM
Cruz is a worshiper of power...False power.

He will shapeshift or morph into whatever is required to obtain the power he wants.

Worshipers of lies believed to be Truth have a constant demand for power...Since lies are finite and require constant power to sustain their existence appearing as infinite Truth.

He amasses more and more power to sustain the lie masquerading as Truth that is fighting against Truth wit the ultimate goal of amassing enough power to defeat Truth and obtain absolute power over all and everything.

If sucking Satan's dick is required in order to supply his hunger or demand for power...He will gobble Satan's dick down until it pops out his ass and is a tail.

Hypertiger
21st September 2014, 03:15 PM
Jesus was not the Messiah.

You can not nail GOD to a cross.

My name is Michael not Jesus and if you try to nail me to a cross...You will wish I was Jesus.

Presidents?

They are not GOD either...They are scapegoats.

"The Pet Goat" is a children's story contained in the book Reading Mastery II: Storybook 1, by Siegfried Engelmann and Elaine C. Bruner (ISBN 0026863553). The book is part of the thirty-one volume Reading Mastery series published by the SRA Macmillan early-childhood education division of McGraw-Hill. It uses the direct instruction teaching style."

"The story gained notoriety because U.S. President George W. Bush, as part of a photo op, was reading it with Florida schoolchildren at the time he was informed of the September 11, 2001 attacks by then White House chief of staff, Andrew Card."

"In modern Satanic theology, the pentagram is far more likely to represent the individual, or the choice to pursue individual glory or immortality rather than union or absorption with the divine- where some traditions advocate the sublimation of the ego or submission to god, Satanism exalts and glorifies it, deifying the human being. The symbol most commonly associated with Satanic practices is the "Sabbatic goat" or Goat of Mendes pentacle, often confused with Baphomet, a figure from Templar legend"

"deifying the human being."

"The Apotheosis of Washington is the fresco painted by Italian artist Constantino Brumidi in 1865 and visible through the oculus of the dome in the rotunda of the United States Capitol Building."

"The Apotheosis of Washington depicts George Washington sitting amongst the heavens in an exalted manner, or in literal terms, ascending and becoming a God (apotheosis). "

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"The symbol of Baphomet was used by the Knights Templar to represent Satan. Through the ages this symbol has been called by many different names. Among these are: The Goat of Mendes, Sabbatic Goat, The Goat of a Thousand Young, The Black Goat, The Judas Goat, and perhaps most appropriately, The Scapegoat"--The Satanic Bible by Anton LaVey, Book of Belial (earth): The Satanic Ritual, pp136

"The scapegoat was a goat that was driven off into the wilderness as part of the ceremonies of Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement, in Judaism during the times of the Temple in Jerusalem. The rite is described in Leviticus 16. The word also refers, in modern parlance, to one who is blamed for misfortunes, often as a way of distracting attention from the real causes."

"Two very similar-appearing male goats were brought into the courtyard of the Temple in Jerusalem on Yom Kippur as part of the Holy Service of that day. The high priest cast lots for the two goats. One goat was offered as a burnt offering, as was the bull. The second goat was the scapegoat. The high priest placed his hands on the head of the goat and confessed the sins of the people of Israel. The scapegoat was led away and let go in the wilderness according to Leviticus 16:22, although the Talmud adds that it was pushed over a distant cliff."

"In modern Hebrew Azazel is used derogatorily, as in lekh la-Azazel ("go to Azazel"), as in "go to hell"."

"Azazel (Hebrew: עזאזל, Arabic: عزازل Azazil) is an enigmatic name from the Hebrew scriptures, possibly referring to a fallen angel or Satan. The word's first appearances are in Leviticus 16, when in the ritual for Yom Kippur the scapegoat is to be taken to Azazel and cast into the wilderness, but this text by itself is unclear as to the actual identity of Azazel.
The Talmud (Yoma 67b) and later commentators maintain Azazel was the name of the precipitous cliff where the goat met its end."

"The Sigil of the Baphomet: This is a pentacle form (The goats head in the circle), with two points pointing upwards, one downwards, and one to each side. This is an upturned or inversed pentacle."

The Whitehouse is where the scapegoat lives.

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crimethink
21st September 2014, 03:44 PM
Jesus was not the Messiah.

You can not nail GOD to a cross.

My name is Michael not Jesus and if you try to nail me to a cross...You will wish I was Jesus.

I enjoy some of what you write. But here you reveal a serious defect. Your defect is not hurting me, but appears to be hurting you. Or will hurt you. And possibly others near you.

The Messiah can release you from the demonic influence you appear to be under. Reach out to Him.

mick silver
22nd September 2014, 02:45 PM
it's looks to me people are waking up but it going to take along time at this rate