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Cebu_4_2
23rd September 2014, 11:17 AM
UPS shooter, fired Monday, returned day later to kill supervisors at Birmingham facility

Law-enforcement converge on a home in the Argo area in connection with the investigation into today's shooting at the UPS service center in Birmingham's Inglenook community. (Joe Songer/jsonger@al.com).
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BIRMINGHAM, Alabama --Three people are dead -- including the gunman -- after a shooting this morning at a UPS facility in Inglenook, according to Birmingham officials.The incident happened just before 9:30 a.m. as police received multiple calls of an active shooter at 4601 Inglenook Lane, the customer service center and warehouse. "Patrol units responded quickly, they rallied and made entry,'' said Birmingham Police Chief A.C. Roper. "They were able to clear the building and, of course, during the shooting, multiple employees exited the facility."

Once the officers arrived and entered the building, they found three dead people inside the business. "It appears it was the shooter still wearing his UPS uniform and two other employees,'' the chief said.

The shooter is believed to be a 45-year-old white male from the Argo area. He is reportedly married, and a father. The gun used in the shootings was still underneath his body when police arrived.

When they came to work today they had no idea it would be their last day alive on earth," A.C. Roper.

Police this afternoon confirmed the shooter was fired from his job."He received his final papers Monday,'' said police spokesman Lt. Sean Edwards. "Today he was not expected to return to work because he was no longer employed there."

All three deceased were adult white males, and their names have not been released. The two victims were supervisors at UPS, and police said they believe they were specifically targeted in the shooting.
It is believed the gunman shot himself.

Roper said no one else was injured. Police did not fire any shots, Roper said, nor did they hear any shots. "When the officers arrived in the parking lot and made entry, the incident in all respect was already over,'' he said.

Hundreds of police officers from Birmingham and Tarrant flocked to this morning's scene. Residents of nearby office buildings, and some family members of UPS workers, somberly gathered outside watching the incident unfold.

Roper said no one else inside was injured other than those who died. "We do have people who are extremely upset about what they saw today and what they witnessed,'' Roper said. "We want to make sure we support them."

They were taken by bus to Boutwell Auditorium, where police have blocked off the streets around there as counselors there meet with employees.

Roper said the investigation will be methodical. "We'll be digging into the work history, into the background, also talking to family members and these other employees who may be able to shed some information on what happened today,'' he said. "We have a pretty good idea about what transpired inside the business."

"We want to make sure we get a good picture of what led up to today and what we can do in the future to prevent it,'' Roper said.
"It is extremely troubling for the city, for the families involved. When they came to work today they had no idea it would be their last day alive on earth," Roper said. "They were just people working at their jobs."

As a precautionary measure, the campus of Springville elementary and middle schools were briefly placed on lock down because there is a connection between a person involved in the shooting and a child at the school, St. Clair County officials said. Authorities later confirmed there were family members at the schools when the shooting happened.

"It was just a precaution in case he was still at large," said Phillip Johnson, facilities manager for the county school system.

The federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is also on the scene at UPS. ATF officials said they are providing technical support, and any guns used in the shooting will be traced as well as submitted through NIBIN to determine if they had been used in any other shooting.

Birmingham police, ATF and St. Clair sheriff's deputies are on a secondary scene in an Argo-area subdivision where the alleged shooter lives. Lawmen have roped off the neighborhood and blocked entrance to the street.

Friends and family members of the alleged shooter gathered outside his home. Several people were taken from the scene by police, presumably for questioning.

"We are deeply saddened by today's events and offer our condolences to the families and employees impacted by today's tragedy. Chief Roper and the BPD have our full support as we investigate and get answers for all involved," said Mayor William Bell.

Gov. Robert Bentley also issued the following statement: "Dianne and I are saddened to learn about the deadly shooting at the UPS Center in Birmingham. Our thoughts and prayers are with the families and co-workers of those who died this morning.

I was briefed on the active shooter situation by the Alabama Secretary of Law Enforcement just moments after it occurred. I commend the quick and efficient response of Birmingham Chief A.C. Roper and his staff at the Birmingham Police Department. Today's incident is a reminder of the importance of law enforcement training to respond to active shooters.

State law enforcement resources are available and ready to assist if needed as investigators work to determine a cause in this deadly shooting."

AL.com staffers Joe Songer, Bill Thornton and Mike Smith contributed to this report.
Updated at 12 p.m. to include additional information from Police Chief A.C. Roper and about the alleged shooter.

StreetsOfGold
23rd September 2014, 11:29 AM
It is believed the gunman shot himself

Naturally, they always shoot themselves and now he can no longer be asked any questions.
All the "details" can be spun to whatever someone wishes who controls the presses.

Dogman
23rd September 2014, 11:34 AM
Postal instagram of the third kind!

Ups drivers are under an increadable amount of pressure and stress, no dings in the truck, maintain a high energy physical and mental attitude, for example.

Oh add supervisors constantly on your ass.

Burn out is very quick trying to maintain the pace.

madfranks
23rd September 2014, 12:52 PM
"When the officers arrived in the parking lot and made entry, the incident in all respect was already over,'' he said.


When the seconds count, the bacon is only minutes away.

midnight rambler
23rd September 2014, 01:03 PM
Even if one is armed it's virtually impossible to stop someone intent on assassinating somebody. In such instances where a shooter intent on assassination has been thwarted luck and good fortune have come into play more than anything else.

StreetsOfGold
23rd September 2014, 02:45 PM
When the seconds count, the bacon is only minutes away.

Bacon! Aaaaah

Bacon!

http://foodswol.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/improvKitchen_howToCookBacon_00.jpg

madfranks
23rd September 2014, 02:46 PM
Even if one is armed it's virtually impossible to stop someone intent on assassinating somebody. In such instances where a shooter intent on assassination has been thwarted luck and good fortune have come into play more than anything else.

That is absolutely true, but with more than one victim, the first guy may not have had time to react, but we don't know about the second.

Spectrism
23rd September 2014, 03:02 PM
It was the gun's fault. Evil gun! Make guns illegal. Then we can all live in peace.

Horn
23rd September 2014, 04:43 PM
It was the gun's fault. Evil gun! Make guns illegal. Then we can all live in peace.

Besides Silver as good money,

Guns in the peoples hands to the teeth is the only this forum agrees on. (Maybe the only thing for some)

Perhaps we should form a PAC?

BrewTech
23rd September 2014, 06:44 PM
"Patrol units responded quickly, they rallied and made entry,'' said Birmingham Police Chief A.C. Roper. "They were able to clear the building and, of course, during the shooting, multiple employees exited the facility."

Have cops always talked this way, or did they learn in during deployment in the MidEast?


When they came to work today they had no idea it would be their last day alive on earth," A.C. Roper.

Which Hollywood writer wrote you that line, Mr. Roper??

Dogman
23rd September 2014, 06:48 PM
Have cops always talked this way, or did they learn in during deployment in the MidEast?



Which Hollywood writer wrote you that line, Mr. Roper??

Probably are x military, it does sound like mil speak.

BrewTech
23rd September 2014, 06:50 PM
Probably are x military, it does sound like mil speak.

It is milspeak... the question was rhetorical.

We have a standing army. Just reinforcing that fact by asking a question that answers itself..

Horn
23rd September 2014, 06:52 PM
http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6805&stc=1

Norman Fell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Fell)was born in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, to a Jewish family, and went to Central High School of Philadelphia. In college he studied drama at Temple University after serving as a tail gunner in the United States Army Air Forces duringWorld War II.Later, Fell honed his craft at The Actors Studio