Police Officer's Shooting of Unarmed Man Caught on Camera

[mick silver]

http://news.yahoo.com/video/police-officers-shooting-unarmed-man-110438515.html

[Dogman]

Saw that on the news, showed the whole thing!


Cop was a nervous bad shot, (4 or 5 >?< ) and only slightly wounded the victim. Absolutely no doubt being a wrongful shooting. And I bet he has already lose his job.

The guy will sue and win, the only unknown is how huge the amount of money he will put in his pocket. It should be more than he ever dreamed to make in a lifetime.

Edit:

He has been charged and could face 20 years.. = Long vacation with all basic needs provided (all exclusive) resort!

[Spectrism]

Wow... cowardly cop playing executioner. If he is not put away, he is worthy to be hunted down. This is another case for the negroes to protest, only this one is really justified for protest.

[midnight rambler]

WOOHOO!!! A box of Krispy Kreme and a paid vacation! It doesn't get any better than this!

[Cebu_4_2]

This guy wasn't so lucky:


http://youtu.be/S9FtNOV6Qhk

http://youtu.be/S9FtNOV6Qhk

[General of Darkness]

Well where's the beginning of the video, cops don't generally let people out of their vehicle, why was he out of his car was he talking shit prior etc. Like usually there's more to it than just some cop murdering someone.

I WILL RESERVE JUDGEMENT TO WHEN ALL THE INFO COMES OUT.

[Ponce]

As long as the law protects the law there will be no law.

V

[Dogman]

As long as the law protects the law there will be no law justice!

V


Fixed it for you!

[willie pete]

Well where's the beginning of the video, cops don't generally let people out of their vehicle, why was he out of his car was he talking shit prior etc. Like usually there's more to it than just some cop murdering someone.

I WILL RESERVE JUDGEMENT TO WHEN ALL THE INFO COMES OUT.

here's a vid with a little more detail......looks like the trooper just rolled up on him, after the trooper said "can I see your license", I would've said "it's in the car" , I would not of just turned around and reached in the car like that, when you encounter the police you have to think they're looking for any reason to shoot you







http://youtu.be/b1EdDhmvvVA

[Hitch]

here's a vid with a little more detail......looks like the trooper just rolled up on him, after the trooper said "can I see your license", I would've said "it's in the car" , I would not of just turned around and reached in the car like that, when you encounter the police you have to think they're looking for any reason to shoot you







http://youtu.be/b1EdDhmvvVA

Disturbing video. That guy is lucky he's alive and that cop was a bad shot. The cop panicked. Bad training or shouldn't have been allowed to pass training, imo.

[General of Darkness]

here's a vid with a little more detail......looks like the trooper just rolled up on him, after the trooper said "can I see your license", I would've said "it's in the car" , I would not of just turned around and reached in the car like that, when you encounter the police you have to think they're looking for any reason to shoot you







http://youtu.be/b1EdDhmvvVA

WOW, that guy is a fucking spaz.

This is a perfect example when you reduce the qualification below a certain IQ so you can control them, they make fucking POOR decisions.

[midnight rambler]

Disturbing video. That guy is lucky he's alive and that cop was a bad shot. The cop panicked. Bad training or shouldn't have been allowed to pass training, imo.

Bearing in mind of course that this was a fucking NC STATE Trooper*, the supposed 'cream of the crop', 'the elite'. lol

*as opposed to some local yokel from Podunk, NC where they COULD blame it on 'bad training' or whatever and get away with it

[crimethink]

I feel sorry for both of them.

The Black dude didn't think anything of the perceived-as-threatening rapid reach into the vehicle and rapid turn around. He had no malice, but it wasn't the smartest thing to do.

The cop has been put into a position - essentially willingly, of course - of being a target for those who aim to blow away cops. He has been taught to assume every citizen a "suspect" - ready to shoot him, the cop, dead.

Was the shooting justified? Of course not. Was it understandable? Meaning, can I place myself in the cop's position? Can I conceive of panicking as he did and opening fire?

Right or wrong, you have to do things to protect yourself when the tax collectors stop you. Don't get out of the vehicle. Don't reach rapidly for anything. Always tell the cop what you are planning to do ("I'm reaching for my wallet which contains my license"). Do keep your hands on the wheel or dash. Do try to be nice to the cop, even if he is very wrong (not because you want to be polite to a possible a**hole, but because you'd like to go home alive).



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqMjMPlXzdA

[Hitch]

Bearing in mind of course that this was a fucking NC STATE Trooper*, the supposed 'cream of the crop', 'the elite'. lol

*as opposed to some local yokel from Podunk, NC where they COULD blame it on 'bad training' or whatever and get away with it

Interesting. State dudes out here, ie CHP, are not considered the crème of the crop. Good at driving, yes, bad cops however. It's the city cops that seem to get the most out of training.

My thought on bad training was because the guy was hit in the leg. That's a big miss from center mass target. The academy I was in, out of thousands that applied, 33 were accepted. 21 of us passed. It was tough. I don't think anyone who passed would have missed with a leg shot by accident.

[EE_]

Today, not wearing your seat belt gets you treated like a dangerous hardened criminal.

Like their saying goes "click it, or ticket get shot"

[midnight rambler]

Interesting. State dudes out here, ie CHP, are not considered the crème of the crop. Good at driving, yes, bad cops however. It's the city cops that seem to get the most out of training.

My thought on bad training was because the guy was hit in the leg. That's a big miss from center mass target. The academy I was in, out of thousands that applied, 33 were accepted. 21 of us passed. It was tough. I don't think anyone who passed would have missed with a leg shot by accident.

Note I posted "the SUPPOSED cream of the crop" as in that's the presentation of the illusion when the truth, the reality is they are very poorly trained and screened.

[Hitch]

Note I posted "the SUPPOSED cream of the crop" as in that's the presentation of the illusion when the truth, the reality is they are very poorly trained and screened.

Not to knock down state guys, but they are more trained for highway issues, accidents, tickets, etc. Imagine pulling over a car that matches a robbery suspect. There are 4 guys in the car. You are by yourself with no backup coming. What do you do? State guys don't have to worry about that. edit: they do have to be prepared but the chances are less out on the open highway...

[Horn]

Seatbelt violation!

Yes, let's open fire, at the gas station no less.

[BrewTech]

He is poorly trained. You could hear the hesitation in his voice as he almost forgot to scream "GET ON THE GROUND!" at someone who has already gone down after being shot. Normally they scream it repeatedly until their victim bleeds out. "STOP RESISTING!" can also be invoked while handcuffing the already dead suspect for added intimidation effect.

No wonder they fired him... terrible performance.

[Camp Bassfish]

Bad shooting for sure, but damned if his wallet doesn't look like a handgun in that split second. Top it off with the diving into the vehicle and spinning around...... Tough call.

[BrewTech]

Bad shooting for sure, but damned if his wallet doesn't look like a handgun in that split second. Top it off with the diving into the vehicle and spinning around...... Tough call.

It is a tough call, but if cops would stick to keeping the peace rather than harassing people for bullshit policy violations, they wouldn't create situations like this. The problem here may have been that the guy wanted to comply asap so he didn't get served and protected for not doing so quickly enough. If a cop rolls up quickly and starts making demands, it can make even the most peaceful person momentarily panic and do something stupid, which is what it looks like happened.

If this cop would have just calmly approached the guy and started a dialogue long enough to get a feel for the situation, this wouldn't have happened. But no, he couldn't be bothered with being a civil fucking human being or anything.

[Camp Bassfish]

I totally agree with you, on all counts. Thankfully the cop couldn't shoot his way out of a paper bag.

[Hitch]

If a cop rolls up quickly and starts making demands, it can make even the most peaceful person momentarily panic and do something stupid, which is what it looks like happened..

A lot of times there is more to the story. It's possible that the guy looked like a robbery suspect, for example, who could have been armed and dangerous. The cop sees a guy that matches the description put out on the radio (ie all the cops are looking for the robber) and rolls up quickly on him. Wrong guy obviously. Not trying to justify this cop's bad mistakes, but just putting that possibility out there.

[Horn]

The cop was probably parked behind the gas station there smoking crack on top of the the tank's cap.

Got even more nervous when someone spied him.

[EE_]

A lot of times there is more to the story. It's possible that the guy looked like a robbery suspect, for example, who could have been armed and dangerous. The cop sees a guy that matches the description put out on the radio (ie all the cops are looking for the robber) and rolls up quickly on him. Wrong guy obviously. Not trying to justify this cop's bad mistakes, but just putting that possibility out there.

No doubt he looked like a robbery suspect...he was black.

[Hitch]

No doubt he looked like a robbery suspect...he was black.

They were all black, from my experience. Please don't mistake this for being racist, but when you are searching for a robber who's black, wearing blue jeans, a black hoodie, with dreadlocks, and you see 10 guys matching that description. Then, they all run, which one do you chase? Take your pick.

The bad guys use their skin color to their advantage. That's just a fact.

[EE_]

They were all black, from my experience. Please don't mistake this for being racist, but when you are searching for a robber who's black, wearing blue jeans, a black hoodie, with dreadlocks, and you see 10 guys matching that description. Then, they all run, which one do you chase? Take your pick.

The bad guys use their skin color to their advantage. That's just a fact.

Fuck chasing 10 of them, that would be a bad move. Open fire on the animals would be acceptable.

September 20, 2014
Hip Hop News Memphis Rap
Woman Beats Men in Rap Battle, So They Rape, Set Her on Fire and Shoot Her

3 men arrested woman beat rap battle

Three men have reportedly been arrested after a brutal crime committed against a woman who beat them in a hip hop rap battle at a house party.

Joey Betrail Garron, 28, Robert Carl Johnson, 23, and Ketorie Glover, 23 all of Columbus, Georgia could not handle losing to a woman in a hip hop rap battle, so they allegedly raped, beat, shot and doused the woman with gasoline setting her on fire before leaving her for dead.

Columbus police reportedly responded to a vacant parking lot where a person was screaming out for help. They found a woman suffering from several gunshot wounds in the vacant lot.

The woman had allegedly engaged in a hip hop rap battle contest outside of a house party on Garden Drive where she was pitted against the alleged men opponents who she apparently defeated and set off anguish.

Apparently the rap battle got heated when one man drew a weapon – a handgun – and forced the 36 year-old victim into her own vehicle as two other men joined.

The woman was taken to the vacant lot where she was found by police at 988 Farr Road, the place where she was allegedly sexually assaulted by all three men, doused with gasoline, set on fire, shot several times and left for dead.

Fortunately, the woman survived her ordeal after being treated for injuries at a local hospital.

The three men have all been arrested and face felony charges of kidnapping, rape, aggravated assault, aggravated sexual battery, aggravated sodomy, arson in the first degree, possession of a firearm, among other charges.
http://www.memphisrap.com/2014/09/20/woman-beats-men-in-rap-battle-so-they-rape-set-her-on-fire-and-shoot-her/

[midnight rambler]

In defense of the cop, after reviewing the video several times, the shootee DID act in a way which cause alarm - i.e. a swift furtive movement as if quickly reaching inside his car for a gun.

But as BT noted, this sort of tension has been cultivated between the 'us and them'. Both of them handled it poorly under our present circumstances. Expect more of the same as it will get worse before it gets better.

[mick silver]

here in ky state boys are the best trained , they have to travel all the back road without backup . still the cop didn't have to shot anyone but again you don't pull some thing out of your car once you get out that's a no no

[midnight rambler]

here in ky state boys are the best trained , they have to travel all the back road without backup . still the cop didn't have to shot anyone but again you don't pull some thing out of your car once you get out that's a no no

That's common sense.

[crimethink]

Put yourself in the place of a cop in any city. You deal with wildlife every day. Most of them hate you, albeit sometimes justifiably so. But nonetheless, most of them would like you dead. And some are willing to effect that. The savage mentality works in concert with the Police State mentality to make things worse and worse for ordinary, decent citizens.

[Horn]

but again you don't pull some thing out of your car once you get out that's a no no

A cop demands to see your license, he should expect you to pull something out of somewhere.

There's no excuse for this crack smokin pig.

[BrewTech]

A lot of times there is more to the story. It's possible that the guy looked like a robbery suspect, for example, who could have been armed and dangerous. The cop sees a guy that matches the description put out on the radio (ie all the cops are looking for the robber) and rolls up quickly on him. Wrong guy obviously. Not trying to justify this cop's bad mistakes, but just putting that possibility out there.'
That may be the case, but the stupid pig still needs to FIGURE THAT OUT FIRST! If he had started a peaceful dialogue with the guy, as I said before, and set the guy at ease, he could have then asked for his ID and done an actual, peaceful investigation without automatically escalating the situation. If he went in peacefully, and the dude got aggressive for no reason, he would have had justification to shoot. The pig made the guy panic, the pig panicked himself, and an innocent person got shot.

You're a good guy Hitch, but I'm getting tired of you constantly attempting to defend the indefensible without thinking it through.

When are you going to realize that the police have changed (to put it mildly) since you were in? They aren't there to help!

Innocent until proven guilty!!

[Hitch]

When are you going to realize that the police have changed (to put it mildly) since you were in?

I do realize it, I just don't see a point in saying what's already being said on the forum. If you want me to admit it, I don't like the way LE is headed in our country. I don't think LE is upholding the constitution for protecting the people. The trend is to use the constitution for their own agenda, police state.

In discussion with a coworker, he mentioned that some agencies are now moving away from a military style police academy, less like boot camp. I could not find any articles about this, but if I do I will post them. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.

[Horn]

I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.

Are they policing the military, or civilians?

[Hitch]

Are they policing the military, or civilians?

Civilians. Horn, anyone with a military background could understand. They break you down and beat the shit out of you in the beginning, then build you back up, if you make it..to become a person who can handle the stresses of the job. It's psychologically, mentally, and physically challenging. IE, you are supposed to accomplish something during the process, and become a better person. So, they told us anyway...

[BrewTech]

Civilians. Horn, anyone with a military background could understand. They break you down and beat the shit out of you in the beginning, then build you back up, if you make it..to become a person who can handle the stresses of the job. It's psychologically, mentally, and physically challenging. IE, you are supposed to accomplish something during the process, and become a better person. So, they told us anyway...
Does a "better person" consider the general population the enemy?

[Hitch]

Does a "better person" consider the general population the enemy?

Be all you can be, Brew. That's what the ad in the newspaper said, with a phone number to call, to join up...

By general population, does that include the turd/thugs we arrested and got off the street?

[BrewTech]

Be all you can be, Brew. That's what the ad in the newspaper said, with a phone number to call, to join up...

By general population, does that include the turd/thugs we arrested and got off the street?

Contemporary cop thinking is that everyone is a turd, a thug, or a potential victim to be brutalized with very little chance of consequences.

Perfect career opportunity for any budding psychopath!

[Hitch]

Perfect career opportunity for any budding psychopath!

I tend to think psychopaths think everyone is innocent, easy prey. At least that's my experience.

There's a lot of evil in this world.

[BrewTech]

I tend to think psychopaths think everyone is innocent, easy prey. At least that's my experience.

There's a lot of evil in this world.

What could be better for a psychopath than being dressed up in a fancy costume, armed (to the teeth and beyond these days), and set loose with the understanding that acting immorally will not result in consequences? In fact, it will be rewarded more often than not!

[Hitch]

What could be better for a psychopath than being dressed up in a fancy costume, armed (to the teeth and beyond these days), and set loose with the understanding that acting immorally will not result in consequences? In fact, it will be rewarded more often than not!

It is my opinion, based upon my life experience, that most LE join the force with good intentions. Fight crime, catch bad guys, uphold the constitution...etc. etc.

That is why I joined, at least. I think the psych tests actually do weed out the maniacs. The question though, is does the environment create cops that fit your description? Or, do you just see the bad ones, while conveniently ignoring the good ones?

I think it's a combo of both.

[Horn]

Civilians. Horn, anyone with a military background could understand. They break you down and beat the shit out of you in the beginning, then build you back up, if you make it..to become a person who can handle the stresses of the job. It's psychologically, mentally, and physically challenging. IE, you are supposed to accomplish something during the process, and become a better person. So, they told us anyway...

If you're policing civilians there should be no need for military style training?

Unless you view them as some organized force threatening you, But then they wouldn't be civilians.

The police beget their own enemies and condemnation with military style tactics and training.

[mick silver]

look up dr ben carson