State Farm dumps pitchman Rob Schneider over anti-vaccine views

[crimethink]

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-rob-schneider-state-farm-antivaccine-views-20140925-story.html

[midnight rambler]

the thoroughly discredited theory linking immunizations to autism.

lol Autism and everything else linked to vaccines such as as asthma and eczema. The other day this well to do octogenarian I know was telling me about a couple of her great granddaughters suffering from severe, extreme eczema (their feet had to be routinely soaked in warm water to remove their socks it was so bad) starting when they very young - the very first thing I thought was it was a result of vax.

[osoab]

lol Autism and everything else linked to vaccines such as as asthma and eczema. The other day this well to do octogenarian I know was telling me about a couple of her great granddaughters suffering from severe, extreme eczema (their feet had to be routinely soaked in warm water to remove their socks it was so bad) starting when they very young - the very first thing I thought was it was a result of vax.

Could it be the socks or the detergent they are washing with?

[midnight rambler]

Could it be the socks or the detergent they are washing with?

Eczema has been linked to children's vax.

[Cebu_4_2]

Social media is hammering anyone that does not want to vaccinate with tons of articles saying that not vaccinating is causing an epidemic of just about everything.

[willie pete]

doesn't add up to me, if vacinations were causing autism, then there should be many more millions and millions of cases it would seem

[Cebu_4_2]

doesn't add up to me, if vacinations were causing autism, then there should be many more millions and millions of cases it would seem

Some kids can deal with the toxins better than others. I along with thousands of others got vaccinated, I had serious problems when others did not. Same with my kid, years and years of incurable problems later controlled with herbs... I will avoid all vaccines for the new kid like the plague.

[willie pete]

Some kids can deal with the toxins better than others. I along with millions of others got vaccinated, I had serious problems when others did not. Same with my kid, years and years of incurable problems later controlled with herbs... I will avoid all vaccines for the new kid like the plague.

And I think you should, in fact I think anyone who doesn't want their children vaccinated shouldn't be forced to, my own opinion regarding ASD is it is more likely inherited than not.

[madfranks]

doesn't add up to me, if vacinations were causing autism, then there should be many more millions and millions of cases it would seem

Autism rates have been skyrocketing for the last couple decades. I'm not an expert in this, but I understand that autism is a deep seated cognitive and neural disorder. I also understand that vaccines are loaded with chemicals and elements a developing brain is not meant to deal with. Who knows how these chemical cocktails affect and/or damage a developing brain? I think it's highly likely that the rise is autism rates is correlated with the rise in the number of vaccines kids are expected to take nowadays.

[willie pete]

Autism rates have been skyrocketing for the last couple decades. I'm not an expert in this, but I understand that autism is a deep seated cognitive and neural disorder. I also understand that vaccines are loaded with chemicals and elements a developing brain is not meant to deal with. Who knows how these chemical cocktails affect and/or damage a developing brain? I think it's highly likely that the rise is autism rates is correlated with the rise in the number of vaccines kids are expected to take nowadays.

I don't think the number of vaccs has increased significantly or at all in many years, looks like there about 12 that are recommended to be administered from natal to geriatics, anyway I think the decision should be left up to the parents or individual, but be fully educated and warned of the very real consequences. Those maybe reduced here in the US and depending on where one lives (metro v rural) and if one homeschools their children. I think "autism" is a "poly-effected" set of S&S's, both neural and cognitive, hence the ASD nomenclature resulting in different patients at different levels of functioning

[Celtic Rogue]

doesn't add up to me, if vacinations were causing autism, then there should be many more millions and millions of cases it would seem

Not necessarily... Autism is four to five times more prevalent in boys than in girls. Just as in any population some people are stronger than others in many ways. I dont believe its the vaccines itself... although they are bad enough... the body can handle some things... but the schedule that the vaccines that are being delivered attack the child's immune system.

Some children cannot handle the huge amounts of the vaccines and develop an immune response to them. Children are now receiving 70 doses of 16 vaccines, starting from the day of birth—three times as many as they received in the early 1980's

Vaccines are dirty concoctions of chemicals and biologicals that present a good risk for some of child development an allergic or immunological reaction.

The fact that the Big Pharma had congress pass laws to protect them against damages caused by vaccines shows that they know there are problems associated with mass inoculation programs.

Here is a chart showing the rapid increase in autism,

http://www.tacanow.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/TACA-Autism-Stats-2010.jpg
In 1900, the smallpox vaccine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox_vaccine) was the only one administered to children. By the early 1950s, children routinely received three vaccines, for protection against (diphtheria (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diphtheria), pertussis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pertussis), tetanus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetanus) and smallpox (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox)), and as many as five shots by two years of age. Since the mid-1980s, many vaccines have been added to the schedule. As of 2009, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centers_for_Disease_Control_and_Prevention) (CDC) now recommends vaccination (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccination) against at least fourteen diseases. By two years of age, U.S. children receive as many as 24 vaccine injections, and might receive up to five shots during one visit to the doctor.

[Cebu_4_2]

Here is a link from the CDC, cant post the chart:

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/imz/child-adolescent-shell.html#18months

[willie pete]

"Children are now receiving 70 doses of 16 vaccines, starting from the day of birth—three times as many as they received in the early 1980's ."

what country?

[Celtic Rogue]

what country? usa

[willie pete]

usa

got a link for that?

[Celtic Rogue]

got a link for that?
No unfortunately I dont because I was doing rapid seaches for data and didnt save the pages... but the link that Cebu posted is pretty close to those numbers. http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedule....html#18months

There are many links out there here is one. http://www.chop.edu/service/vaccine-education-center/vaccine-schedule/history-of-vaccine-schedule.html

The numbers are between 13 and 17 vaccinations and then you add in the booster shots we have a lot of toxins that we are subjecting children to. The exact numbers of vaccinations are not the issue ... The fact that we are giving them in in large numbers is too many too soon is.

[willie pete]

No unfortunately I dont because I was doing rapid seaches for data and didnt save the pages... but the link that Cebu posted is pretty close to those numbers. http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedule....html#18months

There are many links out there here is one. http://www.chop.edu/service/vaccine-education-center/vaccine-schedule/history-of-vaccine-schedule.html

The numbers are between 13 and 17 vaccinations and then you add in the booster shots we have a lot of toxins that we are subjecting children to. The exact numbers of vaccinations are not the issue ... The fact that we are giving them in in large numbers is too many too soon is.

Only 12 on the CDC schedule for newborns until geriatrics; HPV is not given to males and (3) are only given in infancy and for me personally I've never taken the Hib,Influenza or PPSV in adulthood,

Just not so sure of 70 doses of 16 different vaccines like you report, in 3rd world countries they recieve more, more disease there and as far as your statement that "vaccines are dirty concoctions of chemicals and biologicals" that's BS ;D

[midnight rambler]

that's BS ;D

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you earn a living in the allopathic biz?

[Twisted Titan]

All you need to know is The Shylocks dont vaccinate their vermin.

Even though many are "free" or reduced cost.

Thats all that needs to be focused on

[Celtic Rogue]

Only 12 on the CDC schedule for newborns until geriatrics; HPV is not given to males and (3) are only given in infancy and for me personally I've never taken the Hib,Influenza or PPSV in adulthood,

Just not so sure of 70 doses of 16 different vaccines like you report, in 3rd world countries they recieve more, more disease there and as far as your statement that "vaccines are dirty concoctions of chemicals and biologicals" that's BS ;D

As I posted...
The exact numbers of vaccinations are not the issue ... The fact that we are giving them in in large numbers is too many too soon is.

"vaccines are dirty concoctions of chemicals and biologicals" that's BS Then what prey tell are they made up of then?

MMR - Measles-Mumps-Rubella Merck & Co., Inc.
measles, mumps, rubella live virus, neomycin sorbitol, hydrolized gelatin, chick embryonic fluid, and human diploid cells from aborted fetal tissue

Tripedia - Diphtheria-Tetanus-Pertussis Aventis Pasteur USA
Corynebacterium diphtheriae and Clostridium tetani toxoids and acellular Bordetella pertussis adsorbed aluminum potassium sulfate, formaldehyde, thimerosal, and polysorbate 80 (Tween-80) gelatin, bovine extract

These are but two of the vaccines. Not exactly a organic smoothy! LOL I stand by my statement... they are dirty concoctions of biologicals and chemicals!

[willie pete]

Like I said, I think people should be able to make their own decisions, just beware of the consequences. Vaccines have been around for over 200 years

[willie pete]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you earn a living in the allopathic biz?

allopathic? ......nope

[Celtic Rogue]

So have the zionist! Just because something has been around for a long time doesnt nessesarly mean its a good thing. And I agree,,, People should be free to dictate what goes into their body... NOT the state

[crimethink]

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?79323-Brigham-and-Women%92s-nurses-sue-over-flu-shot-mandate

The Babylon System can't get even many health professionals to take the needle.

[crimethink]

Autism rates have been skyrocketing for the last couple decades. I'm not an expert in this, but I understand that autism is a deep seated cognitive and neural disorder. I also understand that vaccines are loaded with chemicals and elements a developing brain is not meant to deal with. Who knows how these chemical cocktails affect and/or damage a developing brain? I think it's highly likely that the rise is autism rates is correlated with the rise in the number of vaccines kids are expected to take nowadays.

Some of us personally know kids who were happy & healthy, until they got the needle. The "experts" tell us we don't know what we saw very clearly.

[crimethink]

Vaccines have been around for over 200 years

Not exactly.

Infecting someone with a naturally-occurring disease like cowpox cannot be equated with the factory-made concoctions they inject into kids now.

What people think of as modern "vaccines" are only a few decades old, since World War II.

[willie pete]

Not exactly.

Infecting someone with a naturally-occurring disease like cowpox cannot be equated with the factory-made concoctions they inject into kids now.

What people think of as modern "vaccines" are only a few decades old, since World War II.

The premise is the same, I never said the synthesis or components were the same and what is your graduate degree in? :D

[crimethink]

what is your graduate degree in? :D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies#Red_herring_fallacies

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

How do you know I don't have a doctoral-level degree?

[willie pete]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies#Red_herring_fallacies

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

How do you know I don't have a doctoral-level degree?


Just a simple honest question,nothing more nothing less; and your field of study was?

[crimethink]

Just a simple honest question,nothing more nothing less; and your field of study was?

I could lie and tell you I'm a medical doctor. But I'm not into the logical fallacy of "argument from or appeal to authority."

Unless you and I are willing to breach our privacy and post our real name and a scan of our real degrees, this game you're playing is meaningless. Further, a medical doctor does not have god-like omniscience, and a so-called "layman" is not always an ignoramus. That's why your fallacy of appeal to authority doesn't work.

[willie pete]

I didn't mean to embarrass you and it's not my intent to call you out on anything, there's no "argument from or appeal to authority" on my part, I just know what I know, if that threatens you in anyway, sorry charlie, that's your problem not mine, you choose to do with your life what you did and I choose to do with mine what I've done, your kind stick out like a sore thumb, and I'll almost guarantee you're nowhere near any kind of a Medical Professional, don't ever lie about that because it's really obvious you aren't, I had you pegged after just a few of your posts here :D, my field of study was in biology/chemistry with graduate work in Pharmacology.


And your field of study again was?

[crimethink]

I didn't mean to embarrass you and it's not my intent to call you out on anything, there's no "argument from or appeal to authority" on my part, I just know what I know, if that threatens you in anyway, sorry charlie, that's your problem not mine, you choose to do with your life what you did and I choose to do with mine what I've done, your kind stick out like a sore thumb, and I'll almost guarantee you're nowhere near any kind of a Medical Professional, don't ever lie about that because it's really obvious you aren't, I had you pegged after just a few of your posts here :D, my field of study was in biology/chemistry with graduate work in Pharmacology.

Embarrass me? That's very funny. You are embarrassing yourself by claiming your degree makes you intelligent or informed.

Graduate work in pharmacology? Oh, yes. Your livelihood is dependent upon peddling these poisons to kids.

I know what I know, as well: I know personally children who were happy & healthy, took the needle, and are no longer happy nor healthy. All the bullshit on planet Earth that your pharmacological professors of lies taught you cannot overcome obvious cause & effect.




And your field of study again was?

Why is this important to you? You are using the logical fallacy of appeal to authority. You are deluded in thinking that your degree gives you credibility. It does not.

[crimethink]

Mystery illness hits girls in small South American town

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/mystery-illness-hits-girls-in-small-south-american-town/

A mystery illness has overwhelmed a small town in northern Colombia as scores of teenage girls have been hospitalized with symptoms that parents fear could be an adverse reaction to a popular vaccine against cervical cancer.

Authorities say they still don't know what caused more than 200 girls in El Carmen de Bolivar to come down with symptoms ranging from fainting to numbness in the hands and headaches. Some have hinted that the town of 95,000 near Colombia's Caribbean coast could be experiencing a rare case of mass hysteria.

Parents are on edge, however, because all the girls, ranging in ages from 9 to 16, were injected in recent months with the vaccine Gardasil. On Wednesday, residents marched peacefully to demand a thorough investigation.

[skid]

I didn't mean to embarrass you and it's not my intent to call you out on anything, there's no "argument from or appeal to authority" on my part, I just know what I know, if that threatens you in anyway, sorry charlie, that's your problem not mine, you choose to do with your life what you did and I choose to do with mine what I've done, your kind stick out like a sore thumb, and I'll almost guarantee you're nowhere near any kind of a Medical Professional, don't ever lie about that because it's really obvious you aren't, I had you pegged after just a few of your posts here :D, my field of study was in biology/chemistry with graduate work in Pharmacology.


And your field of study again was?

Apparently they didn't teach punctuation in your school:)

[willie pete]

Embarrass me? That's very funny. You are embarrassing yourself by claiming your degree makes you intelligent or informed.

Graduate work in pharmacology? Oh, yes. Your livelihood is dependent upon peddling these poisons to kids.

I know what I know, as well: I know personally children who were happy & healthy, took the needle, and are no longer happy nor healthy. All the bullshit on planet Earth that your pharmacological professors of lies taught you cannot overcome obvious cause & effect.




Why is this important to you? You are using the logical fallacy of appeal to authority. You are deluded in thinking that your degree gives you credibility. It does not.

Sorry there Lancelot, I really didn't mean to step on a corn :o, it'd be better for you the less you said, the more you say the easier it is for people to write you off as a fool :D. I suppose you go(IF you go at all) to a Dentist, Physician or Lawyer for that matter who never went to school for any professional training? :o Probably not since you think a degree doesn''t make you intelligent or informed ;D

[willie pete]

Mystery illness hits girls in small South American town

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/mystery-illness-hits-girls-in-small-south-american-town/

A mystery illness has overwhelmed a small town in northern Colombia as scores of teenage girls have been hospitalized with symptoms that parents fear could be an adverse reaction to a popular vaccine against cervical cancer.

Authorities say they still don't know what caused more than 200 girls in El Carmen de Bolivar to come down with symptoms ranging from fainting to numbness in the hands and headaches. Some have hinted that the town of 95,000 near Colombia's Caribbean coast could be experiencing a rare case of mass hysteria.

Parents are on edge, however, because all the girls, ranging in ages from 9 to 16, were injected in recent months with the vaccine Gardasil. On Wednesday, residents marched peacefully to demand a thorough investigation.

You may of done better finding a different article to try and attack me with Lancelot........quoted from your article:

"Echoing the assurances of national health and toxicology experts, who have traveled to the town to collect blood samples and investigate possible environmental hazards, he said there's no evidence the vaccine, which has undergone extensive testing and regulation globally, is to blame.
Meanwhile, Health Minister Alejandro Gaviria is criticizing hyped coverage by the media for stirring panic, saying concerns about their vaccine, which has been applied to 2.9 million women in Colombia, are baseless.
"On one side we have the weight of scientific evidence and on the other are opinions and moral prejudices," he told W Radio on Wednesday, adding the cervical cancer claims the lives of more than 3,000 women every year in Colombia.
Veronica Trulin, head of communications in Latin America for Merck, said all lots of the vaccine, including the ones sent to Colombia, meet all required quality and safety standards.

[crimethink]

Sorry there Lancelot, I really didn't mean to step on a corn :o, it'd be better for you the less you said, the more you say the easier it is for people to write you off as a fool :D. I suppose you go(IF you go at all) to a Dentist, Physician or Lawyer for that matter who never went to school for any professional training? :o Probably not since you think a degree doesn''t make you intelligent or informed ;D

No, a degree does not make you intelligent or informed. You are clear evidence of that. The genuinely intelligent and informed earn a degree to become more informed.

Which pharmaceutical corporation do you represent?

As for I being a "fool," no, I am sorry, that has no applicability to me. The fool is the one who extends blind faith to those peddle who injections. Some rightly call the flu shot the "fool" shot.

[crimethink]

You may of done better finding a different article to try and attack me with Lancelot........quoted from your article:

"Echoing the assurances of national health and toxicology experts, who have traveled to the town to collect blood samples and investigate possible environmental hazards, he said there's no evidence the vaccine, which has undergone extensive testing and regulation globally, is to blame.
Meanwhile, Health Minister Alejandro Gaviria is criticizing hyped coverage by the media for stirring panic, saying concerns about their vaccine, which has been applied to 2.9 million women in Colombia, are baseless.
"On one side we have the weight of scientific evidence and on the other are opinions and moral prejudices," he told W Radio on Wednesday, adding the cervical cancer claims the lives of more than 3,000 women every year in Colombia.
Veronica Trulin, head of communications in Latin America for Merck, said all lots of the vaccine, including the ones sent to Colombia, meet all required quality and safety standards.

Are you a dullard? I did not cite the article as "proof" of anything. I posted it to show yet another of the many instances of Gardasil injections leading to serious side effects. Of course "the authorities" are going to spew like fanatics about "no evidence," even though the cause & effect is clear. The parents are dismissed outright because they aren't "experts."

"Opinions and moral prejudices." That's what these prostitutes for pharmaceutical corporations call the terror of parents watching their girls get gravely sick after the "safe & effective" injections.

There is no word for the lack of empathy shown by needle-pushers for these girls and their families other than evil.


Oh, and by the way, what graduate-level guy writes "may have done better" as "may of done better"? :)

[willie pete]

No, a degree does not make you intelligent or informed. You are clear evidence of that. The genuinely intelligent and informed earn a degree to become more informed.

Which pharmaceutical corporation do you represent?

As for I being a "fool," no, I am sorry, that has no applicability to me.The fool is the one who extends blind faith to those peddle who injections. Some rightly call the flu shot the "fool" shot.

Well this is where I bow out of this debate, you certainly have the edge here, I'm taking the advice of Mark Twain "Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”

And to point out small grammatical errors? ignorant and petty, I'm not an English major, are you? In fact you never did state what your field of study was, I gave you mine, what's yours?