View Full Version : FBI Crime Stats: ZERO murders in Newtown, CT, 2012
crimethink
26th September 2014, 04:22 AM
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/8tabledatadecpdf/table-8-state-cuts/table_8_offenses_known_to_law_enforcement_by_conne cticut_by_city_2012.xls
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palani
26th September 2014, 04:54 AM
The Newtown coroner (or his clerk) agrees since he refuses to issue copies of death certificates.
BrewTech
26th September 2014, 07:17 AM
That is certainly interesting. It would be interesting to get confirmation of the accuracy of these stats from someone over at the EffaBeeEye...
midnight rambler
26th September 2014, 08:15 AM
The Newtown coroner (or his clerk) agrees since he refuses to issue copies of death certificates.
How can a coroner refuse to issue copies of death certificates of deaths?? ???
And if it's because there's no deaths and therefore no death certificates, why isn't there more noise about this? I would think that someone needs to hold the coroner's feet to the fire.
crimethink
26th September 2014, 04:01 PM
That is certainly interesting. It would be interesting to get confirmation of the accuracy of these stats from someone over at the EffaBeeEye...
I'm sure the data will be "adjusted" just as soon as they have a chance.
This expose brings us one of two conclusions: 1) the Sandy Hook murders didn't actually occur; or, 2) the FBI Crime Statistics are simply not reliable.
Of note, Aurora, Colorado does list the theater murders in its data.
The State of Connecticut's 2012 crime statistics report omitted the murders from Newton, as well, but added a special page later in the report, for some inexplicable reason.
Buddha
26th September 2014, 07:18 PM
Sandy Hook was 12/14/12, coulda been that the deaths were not official until 2013 bureaucracy and bull shit and all of that. Also it could of been that the whole thing is bureaucracy and bull shit and all of that. Do you trust what that FBI says as fact?
govcheetos
26th September 2014, 07:26 PM
While it was needed as a false flag, you can't have it showing up in demographics and lowering property values.
General of Darkness
26th September 2014, 07:27 PM
And if there was they'd be all white hispanics.
Buddha
26th September 2014, 07:28 PM
While it was needed as a false flag, you can't have it showing up in demographics and lowering property values.
Just like Boston bombings were not a terror attack.
crimethink
26th September 2014, 07:28 PM
Sandy Hook was 12/14/12, coulda been that the deaths were not official until 2013 bureaucracy and bull shit and all of that. Also it could of been that the whole thing is bureaucracy and bull shit and all of that. Do you trust what that FBI says as fact?
Are the deaths in the 2013 stats then?
But you are right: either no one died at Sandy Hook, or, the FBI stats are, indeed, just bullshit.
Buddha
26th September 2014, 07:30 PM
Are the deaths in the 2013 stats then?
But you are right: either no one died at Sandy Hook, or, the FBI stats are, indeed, just bullshit.
IDK I have not looked, but I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't.
willie pete
26th September 2014, 09:35 PM
Sandy Hook was 12/14/12, coulda been that the deaths were not official until 2013 bureaucracy and bull shit and all of that. Also it could of been that the whole thing is bureaucracy and bull shit and all of that. Do you trust what that FBI says as fact?
That was the first thing I thought was maybe it happened too late in the year to be included in the 2012 stats, it may or may not of been classified as murders, might've been included in violent crime
crimethink
27th September 2014, 12:21 AM
That was the first thing I thought was maybe it happened too late in the year to be included in the 2012 stats, it may or may not of been classified as murders, might've been included in violent crime
The graphic and link I posted show a total of 2 "aggravated assaults" for Newton in 2012. In any case, there is no other category to place an unjustified, inexcusable premeditated homicide.
If the data for December 2012 is not included in the report for 2012, then what good is the data? There is a fundamental expectation that such reports will have a minimal level of integrity, including actually reporting all instances for the criteria in the report year.
The FBI semiannual report for the first six months of 2013 implies that the data for 2012 is complete, whereas, as can be expected of a major statistical report such as this, many months of delay exist before the complete, final report's release:
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/preliminary-semiannual-uniform-crime-report-january-june-2013
In other words, the final report, cited, for 2012 was not released until complete for 1/1/2012 - 12/31/2012. Each year also has a preliminary annual report, prior to the final report.
FBI Data Quality Guidelines:
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/data_quality_guidelines
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