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Ares
28th September 2014, 08:47 PM
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Tens of thousands of pro-democracy demonstrators are surging through the streets of Hong Kong to protest against Beijing’s influence over how the semi-autonomous territory elects its top officials.

Police used several rounds of tear gas to scatter the mostly peaceful crowds that had blocked one of Hong Kong’s main thoroughfares in the early evening (here is a video (http://www.wsj.com/video/police-throw-tear-gas-at-hong-kong-protesters/EB195AF2-0836-4156-8E06-71EBD9D14B5B.html?_ga=1.113411847.1201565935.14119 62171) from inside the crowd). But protestors did not disperse entirely.

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Earlier today, pro-democracy group Occupy Central announced the beginning of a civil disobedience campaign intended to disrupt Asia’s largest financial center until its demands for free elections are met. The campaign, originally planned for October, is riding a wave of momentum following a sit-in over the weekend where televised clashes between police and students, some of whom were pepper sprayed, prompted city residents to rally in support of the students. Organizers say that around 60,000 demonstrators (paywall) were on the streets today, media reports put that number at 30,000, and police have not given an estimate.

In the afternoon, Hong Kong officials flatly refused Occupy Central’s demands—the reversal of a decision from Beijing last month that would give China vetting power over Hong Kong’s elections and the resumption of consultations on political reform in Hong Kong. At a press conference, Hong Kong’s chief executive Leung Chun-ying dubbed the assembly “an illegal act.” The Hong Kong government also released a statement stressing that its decision to implement universal suffrage in 2017 is “legally binding.” The government has “all along been listening attentively to the members of public and are committed to maintaining a diversified society,” it said.

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The proposed system in which candidates must be approved by a Beijing-sympathetic nominating committee “is an important step forward in the constitutional development of Hong Kong and is surely better than a stalemate,” the statement said. “Raw emotion—for or against the proposed political reform—will get us nowhere,” Leung wrote in an editorial for CNN.

Emotions are raw indeed. During the day police also used pepper spray on protesters, many of whom were wrapped in cling film, wearing goggles and gas masks, and using umbrellas to protect themselves. Protesters and residents feared a military crackdown on activists, similar to that of June 4, 1989 when Chinese soldiers fired on pro-democracy students and other activists. By the evening, rumors had circulated online that the People’s Liberation Army would be dispatched, but Hong Kong officials issued a statement that it has “no intention of asking for help from the People’s Liberation Army.”

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Police blocked the entrance to the main center of the protests, a plaza called Civic Square that the students have occupied since Friday, but protesters stopped traffic and demonstrated along nearby thoroughfares, encircling police. At around 2pm Hong Kong time, police told demonstrators still in Civic Square that they should “leave now, for the sake of their personal safety.”

Instead, crowds grew until the center of Hong Kong was a sea of protestors and bystanders, and traffic was brought to a standstill. “I’m so scared, but I want to support the students,” said Florence Lau, 30, a Hong Kong resident who said she works in markets, who was standing on the outer fringes of the protest. “I want to stand here and see the truth.” The students are “protesting for democracy,” she said, and “I want that too.”

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Even before the tear-gassing, activists were hopeful more local residents would join the cause.

Occupy has been criticized by Hong Kong’s business community as well as many residents who object to the disruptions to their daily routines. By connecting with the student movement, which has aroused more public sympathy, activists believe the pro-democracy movement will find more supporters. “Students have opened the door of Occupy Central,” Jimmy Lai, a local media tycoon and supporter of Occupy, told the Wall Street Journal (paywall). Already, demonstrators range from students to elderly activists and democratic lawmakers. As of this afternoon, police said that 78 people had been arrested since Friday, ranging between the ages of 16 and 58.

The next few hours are expected to be fraught. Despite several rounds of tear gas, thousands of protestors remain on the streets, and tensions are increasing.


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Meanwhile, Hong Kong police are reportedly cutting cell phone reception in protest areas and have been pictured carrying shotguns through the crowds. Apple Daily has a live feed of the protests (http://occupycentral.appledaily.com/?_ga=1.104884099.1201565935.1411962171) if you want to watch them in real time.

http://qz.com/272387/hong-kong-has-entered-a-state-of-mass-civil-disobedience/

JohnQPublic
28th September 2014, 08:54 PM
It's all because Edward Snowden went there... :rolleyes:

Shami-Amourae
28th September 2014, 09:35 PM
It's all because Edward Snowden went there... :rolleyes:

We need to bomb them too now?

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General of Darkness
28th September 2014, 09:56 PM
We need to bomb them too now?

https://images.encyclopediadramatica.es/4/45/Uncle_Sam.jpg

Excellent example. The more freedom people want the less they'll receive.

govcheetos
29th September 2014, 08:19 AM
They must not watch as much tv there.

Dogman
29th September 2014, 08:37 AM
Until China pulls another Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 on their heads!


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen_Square_protests_of_1989


It will not end well!

Edit: But with Hong Kongs history and position with the world, it will be interesting how the mainland handles this one.

It will depend on "Face" and gaining, keeping or losing it in the worlds eyes, methinks.

Hatha Sunahara
29th September 2014, 12:59 PM
Vetting the candidates is what the 'shadow government' does in the USA, but there is no civil unrest about it here. Could that be because most Americans are completely unaware that there is a 'shadow government', or because Americans just don't care because they are resigned that nothing can be done about it? Such is life in the land of the free and the home of the brave. The average IQ of the Hong Kong Chinese is about 20 points higher than the average for Americans, and it's good to see them rebelling against the domination attempts by the communist NWO in Beijing. Is it possible that we have offshored 'the land of the free and the home of the brave' along with all our jobs?


Hatha

slvrbugjim
29th September 2014, 09:05 PM
Cia

Serpo
30th September 2014, 01:19 AM
Communistic/Capitalistic/Democracy was always going to be tricky

mick silver
30th September 2014, 07:46 AM
it's started , time to over turn one more government see how it works . piss off the people and they burn the house down then we help rebuild it

PatColo
23rd October 2014, 08:04 AM
Hong Kong has too many poor people to allow direct elections, leader says

Written by

Heather Timmons (http://qz.com/author/htimmonsqz/)@HeathaT (http://twitter.com/HeathaT)
The Future of Hong Kong (http://qz.com/on/the-future-of-hong-kong/)

October 21, 2014



HONG KONG—Hong Kong’s Umbrella Movement protesters have been demanding that the city’s top official, CY Leung, step down for weeks now. They may soon be joined by many more of the city’s 7 million residents, after a controversial interview last night in which Leung suggested that election reforms sought by the protestors would invite undue influence from the city’s poor.


Speaking at his official residence, a colonial-era mansion set above the city—it’s furnished with crystal chandeliers and guarded by massive stone lions—Leung addressed three foreign newspapers that target Hong Kong’s wealthy international community. Allowing the entire voting population of Hong Kong, some 5 million people, to directly nominate candidates for the city’s top official position would be a mistake, Leung said (http://online.wsj.com/articles/hong-kong-leader-sticks-to-election-position-ahead-of-talks-1413817975?KEYWORDS=Leung):



“If it’s entirely a numbers game—numeric representation—then obviously you’d be talking to half the people in Hong Kong [that] earn less than US$1,800 a month. You would end up with that kind of politics and policies.”



Leung gave the interview to the Financial Times (http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/3f6f1c74-584b-11e4-a31b-00144feab7de.html?siteedition=intl#axzz3GeXLMesA), The New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/21/world/asia/leung-chun-ying-hong-kong-china-protests.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=HpSum&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news), and the Wall Street Journal (http://online.wsj.com/articles/hong-kong-leader-sticks-to-election-position-ahead-of-talks-1413817975?KEYWORDS=Leung). The three publications frequently keep their content behind a paywall, but their write-ups of the interview were quickly circulated on social media, where information about Hong Kong’s protests has spread quickly:



Not sure who breached paywalls of WSJ/FT/NYT () but here's CY Leung's remarks in joint interview #OccupyCentral (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23OccupyCentral) http://t.co/Y0GOWhGGtF—
Danny Lee 李嘉洪 (@JournoDannyAsia) October 21, 2014 (http://twitter.com/#%21/JournoDannyAsia/status/524352643888451584)



Economic inequality in Hong Kong is the highest in the developed world (http://mcseconomicus.wordpress.com/2013/02/08/income-inequality-in-hong-kong-by-perlie-mong/), and among the highest in East Asia, as Quartz has reported before (http://qz.com/228613/hong-kong-protesters-blame-china-for-rising-inequality-and-economic-woes/). About a third of the population lives in public housing, and one in five lives below the poverty line.


Currently, candidates for Leung’s job are chosen by a 1,200-member nominating committee that is heavily weighted by business interests. While the protests in Hong Kong’s central business district have been mostly student-driven, and spurred by demands for direct nomination, more spontaneous protests have sprung up in the working class neighborhood (http://qz.com/273421/hong-kongs-student-dominated-democracy-movement-is-now-drawing-in-the-rest-of-society/) of Mong Kok, powered in part by dissatisfaction over public housing policies.


Leung himself is the son of a police officer, but the millions he made as a real estate executive earned him the nickname “emperor of the working class.” Already he has been hung in effigy, depicted as Dracula, and openly told to go to hell (http://qz.com/274933/why-protesters-want-hong-kongs-chief-executive-and-his-family-to-go-to-hell/) during the protests in Hong Kong.


Government representatives (but not Leung) and representatives from the protest movement are set to meet today, for the first time since the protests started three weeks ago. Leung said last night that his fellow officials would be “all ears.” They may get an earful on Leung’s latest public pronouncements.


http://qz.com/284352/hong-kong-has-too-many-poor-people-to-allow-direct-elections-leader-says/

singular_me
23rd October 2014, 03:14 PM
Tens of thousands of pro-democracy demonstrators are surging through the streets of Hong Kong to protest against Beijing’s influence over how the semi-autonomous territory elects its top officials.

Fabian protests against communism, and it is called democracy...

makes my head spin. LOL

Twisted Titan
23rd October 2014, 04:01 PM
You dont need to fight.....just dont participate.

Your begging validates their supposed authority.

You walk away and thier power evaporates like the illusion it is.

Cebu_4_2
23rd October 2014, 05:07 PM
You dont need to fight.....just dont participate.

Your begging validates their supposed authority.

You walk away and thier power evaporates like the illusion it is.

Might be an illusion but in the usi that didn't work. Israel took over all the government positions, now that's fukt.