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crimethink
9th October 2014, 03:40 PM
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29548942

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/10/09/mystery-as-dutch-try-to-figure-out-why-one-mh17-passenger-was-wearing-oxygen-mask-when-plane-crashed/

Cebu_4_2
9th October 2014, 04:15 PM
The plane had been flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur on 17 July when it went down over rebel-held territory. Pro-Russian separatist leaders deny shooting it down with a missile.

crimethink
9th October 2014, 04:37 PM
The plane had been flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur on 17 July when it went down over rebel-held territory. Pro-Russian separatist leaders deny shooting it down with a missile.

Yeah, why did it take almost four months for this to come out?

If a missile hit the plane, no one, even the crew, would have had a chance to put masks on. The aerodynamic forces would have torn the plane apart almost instantly, with obvious effects on the people inside.

Glass
9th October 2014, 05:06 PM
and it only came out by a slip of the tongue. But of course it's their hubris that exposes them.

Only one person wearing a mask? Could it have ended up around their neck as they were tumbling through the air? Just a chance thing?

crimethink
9th October 2014, 05:12 PM
and it only came out by a slip of the tongue. But of course it's their hubris that exposes them.

Only one person wearing a mask? Could it have ended up around their neck as they were tumbling through the air? Just a chance thing?

That's about as believable as the unburned passports of 9/11 getting there without help.

The only credible way a mask could end up around someone's neck was if they put it there, or, put it on their face and it slipped down.

PatColo
11th October 2014, 07:17 PM
somewhere in an older MH17 thread, it was reported that some of the crash scene corpses were naked. :o

Cebu_4_2
11th October 2014, 07:59 PM
somewhere in an older MH17 thread, it was reported that some of the crash scene corpses were naked. :o

Perhaps a mile high club party?

crimethink
11th October 2014, 11:19 PM
somewhere in an older MH17 thread, it was reported that some of the crash scene corpses were naked. :o

It's not actually unusual for all clothing to be ripped off by wind in a crash. Then again, they may be local corpses "added" to the alleged "shoot down" site.

PatColo
12th October 2014, 05:41 AM
It's not actually unusual for all clothing to be ripped off by wind in a crash. Then again, they may be local corpses "added" to the alleged "shoot down" site.


I hadn't thought of that, IE adding the corpses after the crash, and off hand it's implausible because the black ops who would've inserted the bodies would've been on the same scene as the workers who reported the naked bodies. I did speculate at the time about the scenario where the whole thing was contrived with the black ops taking the missing MAL plane from a couple months earlier, loading it with corpses, and doing the shoot down over ukraine. The ops guys just would have been supplied corpses sans any clothes, and they said whoops! Black op planning snafu. So they just put the corpses on as they were provided to them.

I wonder is dajooz had already swiped the corneas from the corpses before takeoff?

Glass
12th October 2014, 05:50 AM
yeah I was just thinking that the elastic band on the mask is weak elastic. Odd things happen, the internet is testament to that. Only 1 person with a mask on suggests its more chance than deliberate. Why no one else? Or did no one make note of any other people who had their masks on. So we only know of the one but there were more than one?

crimethink
12th October 2014, 06:21 PM
yeah I was just thinking that the elastic band on the mask is weak elastic. Odd things happen, the internet is testament to that. Only 1 person with a mask on suggests its more chance than deliberate. Why no one else? Or did no one make note of any other people who had their masks on. So we only know of the one but there were more than one?

Perhaps we will never know, but it definitely raises eyebrows...for quite a while.