explain my oil lamp

[Hitch]

Let's hear it.

[Hitch]

Let's hear it.

The lamp is moving right now, let's hear it.

[osoab]

wave action?

[Serpo]

Where is page one of this thread..........

[Hitch]

wave action?

I wish.

[osoab]

is it brass?

[Hitch]

I give up. 3 days. I don't fucking know at this point.

[chad]

you're supposed to polish it.

[Cebu_4_2]

Yes, you have to rub it long enough for the Genie to appear. From what I read the Genie comes out in white.

[madfranks]

What are you drinking/smoking, and where can I get some?

[Ponce]

Make sure that is not a gennie from Nigeria.......

V

[EE_]

Major Nelson was a fag!

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[Santa]

If it's freaking you out, the lamp might be demonically possessed. Or the boat has taken on an evil spirit. Or both. Or maybe it's the dock, or the town.
Are the townsfolk acting weird? Are women hissing at you at the grocery store? That's usually a bad sign. I noticed that living near large bodies of water heightens psychic energies. Coastal towns have more ghostly incidences than other places. Maybe it's all the dead fish. I don't know. Just offering suggestions.

[Dogman]

RUN hard and long!

Sounds like a transdimensional cyclone or vortex warp is forming in your boat!

[Glass]

There's no funny old guy who looks like a mole and is the local shop keeper and all he keeps saying is, "this is a local shop for local people. There's nothing for you here!".
?

he might know whats up with your lamp. Can't imagine how but he might.

[palani]

Barring the possibility of perpetual motion then you must consider eigenvalues, eigenvectors and some form of periodic stimulus. Consider finding a characteristic equation for the motion of the lamp and determining the location of poles and zeros. Pay particular attention to the location of poles in the right half plane. Once that is determined some method of stabilization should be selected. My choice would be to stuff it in a bag of styrofoam and see if that dampens the oscillations although a minimalist would probably try putting a marble in the tank.

[Cebu_4_2]

The lamp is moving right now, let's hear it.

Who will move in after it's gone?

[Ponce]

Might work better if you put some fuel in it.

V

[Santa]

Has Hitch posted anything since yesterday? I'm worried a Barbara Eden lookalike zombie might have gotten onto his boat.

[Hitch]

Barring the possibility of perpetual motion then you must consider eigenvalues, eigenvectors and some form of periodic stimulus. Consider finding a characteristic equation for the motion of the lamp and determining the location of poles and zeros. Pay particular attention to the location of poles in the right half plane. Once that is determined some method of stabilization should be selected. My choice would be to stuff it in a bag of styrofoam and see if that dampens the oscillations although a minimalist would probably try putting a marble in the tank.

Care to make this a little easier to understand? I did look into eigenvalues, per your post, but everything read just goes completely over my head.

I should add, this lamp is solid brass. So nothing magnetic affects it. I've also attached a screwdriver to a piece of sting and let it dangle next to the lamp. The screwdriver, does not move, yet the lamp continues to.

Nothing seems to surprise me anymore with this boat. I think the guy who built her must have been on shrooms. If you stand looking forward from inside the boat, it looks like she's listing towards the bow. But stand forward looking astern, she seems to list that way. The compass works great though. Very little deviation.

[Hitch]

Are the townsfolk acting weird? Are women hissing at you at the grocery store? That's usually a bad sign.

Actually quite the opposite. Women have been flirting with me like crazy lately, which really isn't something I'm used to.

[Ponce]

Congrat on winning the lotto, the whole town knows........expect more women to come to you like crazy.

V

[Hitch]

Congrat on winning the lotto, the whole town knows........expect more women to come to you like crazy.

V

Nah, I'm no Ponce. :) It's a simple life for me.

[Glass]

Women have been flirting with me like crazy lately, which really isn't something I'm used to.

Must be that Old Spice.... you're not using that for lamp fuel are you?

wow I didn't know this was the market for Old Spice now: image search (https://www.google.com.au/search?q=old+spice&hs=nOd&channel=sb&tbm=isch&imgil=06NtvSPBuNUkCM%253A%253BU6832FDh4fLUZM%253Bh ttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.chemistwarehouse.com.a u%25252Fproductset.asp%25253Fid%2525253D1971&source=iu&pf=m&fir=06NtvSPBuNUkCM%253A%252CU6832FDh4fLUZM%252C_&usg=__gqFzYM4k_fHxcL0AmgUf0Ln3g0E%3D&biw=1920&bih=940&ved=0CFsQyjc&ei=XQI-VKTjKdS7ogTw64LACQ#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=06NtvSPBuNUkCM%253A%3BU6832FDh4fLUZM%3Bhttp% 253A%252F%252Fwww.chemistwarehouse.com.au%252FMark eting%252FLandingPages%252FCWH-Old-Spice-SmellMan_1212454655_1504530071.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252 F%252Fwww.chemistwarehouse.com.au%252Fproductset.a sp%253Fid%253D1971%3B560%3B320)

Maybe that's how it's advertised in Australia now. not sure.

[Neuro]

Demons took over Hitch account, does anyone know an exorcist (JQP?), or should I just ban satan now?

[palani]

Care to make this a little easier to understand? .

An engineers attempt at humor.

Its why we don't make good politicians.

Most people don't want a solution. They want fairy tales.

[Glass]

Most people don't want a solution. They want fairy tales.

This is wisdom. Applies to Women especially. They want to tell you about the problem but not necessarily want you to leap into action, unless they do, in which case you should, unless you shouldn't. But you should always listen or you might get banished to the bottom of the garden.

[palani]

Applies to Women especially.

When considering female behavior most males actually mis-state the problem. You don't want a model that describes women. You want a model that describes woman. After all, you don't need to understand their dynamic as a GROUP. You most likely would rather know how a PARTICULAR individual specimen is going to act in her dynamic with YOU.

[Glass]

yes point taken.

[osoab]

Is your lamp heating the bottom somehow and warping itself causing the motion?

[Dogman]

The boat maybe moving but Hitch being a seaman is used to the motion and is not aware of it? Sorta like anyone with sea legs stepping on land and the land seems to move to them at first, because they are used to the motion of the boat, the lamp is sorta acting like a plumb bob pointing to the center of the earth?

I can see swaying but turning in a circle? I do bet it has to have something with the broken waves/swells and tides. The water in the harbor is always moving, even if it looks like it is not moving. The boat must be oscillating to some degree that can not be seen, and the lamp IS acting like a plumb bob trying to point to the center of the earth and rotating due to the Coriolis effect.

Or the lamp is acting like a pendulum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pendulum

And they can act weard in relation to the earths center of gravity. The Foucault pendulum effect among them.

[Hitch]

I can see swaying but turning in a circle? I do bet it has to have something with the broken waves/swells and tides. The water in the harbor is always moving, even if it looks like it is not moving. The boat must be oscillating to some degree that can not be seen, and the lamp IS acting like a plumb bob trying to point to the center of the earth and rotating due to the Coriolis effect.

Dogman, thank you! I think you are on to explaining this. The circular motion is unique. When a swell or wake from another boat hits mine, this lamp bounces around erratically, basically random, but settles back into a circular motion. Now, the mast on the boat, acts in a circular manner. That's how the physics of sailing work. This lamp is near the mast. I'm thinking, that standing rigging that tensions the mast is causing a circular twisting force on the mast, which may very well be passing on to the lamp.

I need to retention my rigging perhaps and even it out. I've regretted this thread honestly because it does sound crazy, and I don't care to be laughed at. But your thoughts are definitely on to something, thanks for that.

[Dogman]

Fun thread tad ribbing thrown in for a dash of spice,with a unique problem!

What is not to like!

Grin!

[Neuro]

Hitch don't take yourself too seriously. The thread got off on a weird tangent, but don't take the subsequent ribbing personally. We do it because we love you.

Dogmans pendulum theories are bullshit off course, satan must be involved, or the genie wants to get out. Let's be realistic and logical about all this!

[Ponce]

The pendulum theorie could be true if all the silver is on one side of the boat.....but of course later he is going to loose it.

V

[Neuro]

The pendulum theorie could be true if all the silver is on one side of the boat.....but of course later he is going to loose it.

V
The law of nature is especially harsh on this one. Store your silver on a boat and the probability of a boating accident increase to a 1=absolute truth and the probability of recovering that silver is 0= absolute lie = satan

Neuro=5
Silver/Gold=66/1=661
5+661=666=Swinging oil lamps

See! With logic and mathematic you can solve every problem!

[mick silver]

what the hell a oil lamp . replace oil with gas

[Ponce]

It is a magic lamp, it needs no fuel......only the inspiration of your mind translated into words.

V

[Dogman]

what the hell a oil lamp . replace oil with gas


lima beans or pinto?

[Hitch]

what the hell a oil lamp . replace oil with gas

Gotta be oil mick! I admit, I am completely superstitious when it comes to boats and the sea. I believe oil lamps are good luck, plus the flame from oil lamps is always moving, kind of dancing around and beautiful.

Speaking of luck, do not ever take bananas on boats. Have a few stories about that bad luck..

[Dogman]

Gotta be oil mick! I admit, I am completely superstitious when it comes to boats and the sea. I believe oil lamps are good luck, plus the flame from oil lamps is always moving, kind of dancing around and beautiful.

Speaking of luck, do not ever take bananas on boats. Have a few stories about that bad luck.. And for dam sure do not store or bring any bananas on board in a suitcase!

Doubledam!

Lmao!

[Hitch]

And for dam sure do not store or bring any bananas on board in a suitcase!

Doubledam!

Lmao!

Haha, good one.

Here's a banana bad luck story. Early this year I worked a movie set. We had a bunch of movie people on the boat, directors, lighting technicians, etc. Lot's of expensive equipment, everyone dressed up, beautiful women, etc. It was just me and the captain to handle the boat. They were all the passengers. So, before we casted off the lines, one of the movie dudes said they brought a cooler full of food and for us to help ourselves. I looked in the cooler to see if there was anything good, and yup, bananas in the cooler amongst other things.

I said to the captain, "this is fucked, we have a problem there's bananas in that cooler" Cap says "why?" I said, "it's bad luck, think we should get rid of them?" He said fuck that, and we got into a heated argument about it.

So, hours later at the movie site, all setup work done, hundreds of people to make this movie, big name actors, everything ready to go...they say Action and the film starts rolling.

Well, as "luck" would have it, that's when the action started. Seagulls. They started shitting all over the crew on my boat, while they are trying to work as the film rolled. I've never seen anything like it. I'm going around passing out paper towels and water jugs. Big liquid shits, dripping off these movie people's arms, landing on their heads....chaos.

I go into the wheelhouse and tell the captain, "are you seeing this, do you see this big cluster fuck happening?" "nothing we can do the camera's rolling". We stood there and watched, the movie crew waving their arms, running groaning oh god as they danced about in misery during the shit storm falling on them. I laugh about it now, but at the time, I really felt bad for these people.

But you know what? Not one shit landed on me. I told the captain it was those fucking bananas! They brought them not us.

I've been working on boats for years now, sometimes I'm working around 1000's of seagulls flying around. I have never, not once, been shit on by them. Years!

Bananas. Don't bring them on boats.

[govcheetos]

Friend of mine goes charter and party boat fishing several times per year. Was on a party boat with about 20 or so people going out to bottom fish. He goes on this one boat almost exclusively, knows the mate, always catches fish. The weather was beautiful. About half way out some guy opens his cooler and takes out a banana, peels it and starts eating it. My friend says nobody said anything to him, but everyone was looking at him and each other and giving each other the WTF! look. The skies darkened up some and they went into a sea fog. Tried fishing several drops, but NOBODY caught a damn thing!

[osoab]

what's up with the banana thing?

[palani]

Bananas. Don't bring them on boats.

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[Dogman]

what's up with the banana thing?

Look up bananas and suitcases on boats/ships!

Nautical superstitions are interesting, sailors have bunches of them!

Like whistling into the wind!

[Hitch]

what's up with the banana thing?

I don't know, but I believe it. The list goes on. That same captain I argued with over the bananas, he doesn't believe it, but one time he yelled at me to get a bird perched on the bow off the boat away. To him, that was bad luck.

When I fell overboard and told my story, a coworker firmly believes Davy Jones grabbed me.

Another captain won't work with another engineer because he believes he's a Jonah, bad luck.

We had a barge that was bad luck. Most guys hated working it, I liked it. They say because she never "bit me". She's hit every buoy around though, and manage to injure most everyone who worked the barge. I believe it. I believe she never bit me because she liked me, and I treated her well.

Another barge I know of was never Christened, so they say. It doesn't tow properly. It hit a bridge, a "mind of it's own" they say.

I believe one of our boats is cursed. I think she's named improperly. Every time I work that boat we have problems, weird ones. One time the fire detection system...actually caught on fire. WTF.

The list goes on. I won't set sail on Friday's anymore, not for a voyage. Learned that one the hard way. A day sail maybe.

[mick silver]

I see that you don't need to be around anything with a flame