Portable water generator (runs on water)

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Portable water generator (runs on water)

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400 Unit/Units per Month


Port:
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Quick Details

Place of Origin:
Ontario Canada

Brand Name:
GDS

Model Number:
GDS3000



Type:
Generator

Electricity Generator Type:
runs on water

Output Voltage (V):
110



GDS3000:
4160




Packaging & Delivery

Packaging Detail:
Foam with Cardboard


Delivery Detail:
31 Days



Specifications Portable water generator that runs on water,copper coils and magnets.creates 3000 watts of electricity per hour.
GDS3000 which produces 3000 watts of power for light duty. Use for your house, cottage or small construction project. Emergency back-up power, concerts, camping, motor home. This unit is also 50% less noisey than traditional generator so you can use indoors with NO Fumes and NO Pollution and it's a great way of saving energy cost and helping the environment.
How does it work?When you receive your new portable water generator just add 4 gallons of normal water in the tank and turn the red toggle switch to on position (emergency safety) that will start the battery and pump and turbine all at once, it's that easy. All units have been tested before leaving our facility.
Instruction and warranty manuals will be supplied with every unit sold.
How do I know which unit I need?Simple, on ever electrical product that is made, there is a sticker and it will show how many watts per hour it uses then total all the watts together, that will tell you how many watts you are using and will help you decide which unit best works for your needs.

SPECIFICATIONS
Product Series GDS3000
AC Voltage 110/240
AC Frequency 50/60 hz
Energy Type Turbine Generator 3kw
Generator Coils and Magnets
Start method Battery
Ground On Frame
Water Gauge On Tank
Digital Hour meter with volt/amp meter
Start Switch Type On/Off
Handle Style Single Folding/Locking
1 1⁄4 Steel Frame Strength and Durability
Emergency Stop Button Yes

SPECIALLY ORDERS
If you have a need for more power then we can build larger units, GDS can build up to 50kw (50000) watts.

CONTROL PANEL
1 x 110/240v 30a L14-30R Twist lock Outlet 2 x 20a 1P Circuit Breaker 2 x 15a 1P Circuit Breaker 2 x 120v 20a 5-20R Duplex Outlets
DIMENSIONS AND WEIGHT MM
Length 1092
Width 787
Height 711
Extended Length with handles out 1524
Carton Length 1143
Carton Height 762
Carton Width 838
Unit Weight 136 KG
Shipping Weight 138 KG
INTERNATIONAL WARRANTY
2 year on Residential usage or 8760 Hours which ever expires first. 1 year on Commercial usage or 4380 Hours which ever expires first.
LIFE SPAN ON MAIN MATERIAL

REFUND POLICY
If you are not satisfied with our product or products within 15 days of delivery GDS technologies will refund your money in full. If unit is damaged no refund, must be in clean new working order. After the 15 days pass a replacement program in effect for the balance of your warranty.
Note: Delivery or any duty charges will not apply to any refunds only our product will be refunded.

DELIVERY
Please allow up to 14 days business days plus shipping time. DELIVERY WILL BE AN EXTRA COST. Client is also responsible for any cross border duties and bonding charges if any apply.
3 WAYS FOR DELIVERY
AIR SEA LAND

Contact GDS Technologies for shipping pricing and yes you can track your order.
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[Neuro]

I didn't understand how it works? It generates electricity? How?

[Ponce]

I just wrote them asking the same thing......I just might buy one......and get rid of the powr company......might just do it anyway.

V

[Ponce]

Video for generator........pretty good........... http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/10/portable-generator-runs-on-water-on-sale-now-video-3051410.html

V

[crimethink]

I didn't understand how it works? It generates electricity? How?

The only possibility would be electrolysis generating hydrogen & oxygen, and then those being burned to run the generator. Hence, no pollution (steam only).

However, electrolysis takes power itself, so, unless they've come up with some miraculous way to split the water at very, very low power (using the onboard battery), this is just the proverbial perpetual motion machine.

Their website offers no answers, either:

http://www.gdstechnologies.ca/FAQ.html

[Hitch]

This is nothing short than amazing! It will run for 3 days on 4 gallons of water. If this thing works as advertized, it's the ultimate in solutions for sailboats. The ultimate solution.

Mount it down below, coupled with a sea water maker and your water tanks will always be full. You will have unlimited power. Wow! I am seriously floored.

If I had 4 grand lying around I'd buy one right now. I hope they come out with a smaller one, maybe a 2000 watt, or even a 1000 watt would be better.

I am going to contact them and ask.

[Hitch]

Video for generator........pretty good........... http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/10/portable-generator-runs-on-water-on-sale-now-video-3051410.html

V

I did not see any moving parts, other than the vent fan to cool it. Did you? No moving parts. Nothing to grease, or maintain. Like a computer. Amazing.

[Dogman]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/There's_a_sucker_born_every_minute

Nuff said!

[crimethink]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/There's_a_sucker_born_every_minute

Nuff said!

I'm afraid this may very well be the case. They refuse to address the actual process of how it works. If hydrolysis, just state it. They do not.

[Hitch]

I'm afraid this may very well be the case. They refuse to address the actual process of how it works. If hydrolysis, just state it. They do not.

I was talking to an extremely intelligent coworker, and he mentioned perpetual motion was his goal in life since he kid. He explained to me his idea of creating it, in detail. Most went over my head, but it made sense. But it does sound possible. We also discussed Tesla, and other things, but agreed if you can actually do it.....do not give out the details. Just build it, and let the product speak for itself. Leave out the critical information. Sounds like this company may very well be doing that very thing.

[woodman]

It is certainly a scam. If they had a working generator that operated as they say, they would be wasted immediately and with extreme prejudice. It would upset the status quo and provide freedom to the billions of slaves that provide everything the owners require. They (the owners) would simply not tolerate that.

[crimethink]

I was talking to an extremely intelligent coworker, and he mentioned perpetual motion was his goal in life since he kid. He explained to me his idea of creating it, in detail. Most went over my head, but it made sense. But it does sound possible. We also discussed Tesla, and other things, but agreed if you can actually do it.....do not give out the details. Just build it, and let the product speak for itself. Leave out the critical information. Sounds like this company may very well be doing that very thing.

Tapping into the "free energy" available everywhere at the Quantum level is a dream of every energy scientist. But actually accessing that "Zero Point Energy" in meaningful amounts is something long down the road, unless there are deep secrets somewhere.

Anyone who would create a ZPE system would not waste it on a mediocre generator like this. I still propose it's using hydrolysis, but it will ultimately use much more energy than net output. In the video, there are two (12 volt?) batteries, which probably have to be fully-charged to get it to start, each time.

[Shami-Amourae]

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1039467/pg1

Comments on their YouTube disabled:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEqSuTOKUEg

Fake company address:
http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/fw544d6912.png

Come on guys, this took me 2 minutes of research. Stop believing in this bullshit.

[7th trump]

Gravity wheels are the answer to perpetual motion.
Should have my design up and going hopefully within 6 months after getting my X2 mill converted to CNC. Need a good heavy duty CNC mill to make the Geneva wheel which is the heart of my design......all mechanical!

[Shami-Amourae]

The best form of power is hydroelectric. Live near a hydroelectric plant in an area with a low population and you're set.

[crimethink]

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1039467/pg1

From one comment:

"The emergency stop button is glued on."

I watched the relevant part of the video again, and I believe he is correct.


From another:

"To keep cost down on our products we do not take Visa/Master Card." (referencing Payment tab at: http://www.gdstechnologies.ca/GDS5000.html)

In other words, cash via PayPal only.

[crimethink]

Feel free to contact one of our customer care representatives at 1-905-576-4888.

Result: "I'm sorry, but the person you called has a voice mail box that has not been set up yet. Good bye." Click.

[Hitch]

Dang. Well, you guys rock. You quickly destroyed this scam right away. Props to GSUS. Well done gentlemen, well done.

[Ponce]

And why not run an electric car with one of these?........I am beggining to change my mind about ordering one :(

V

[Hitch]

And why not run an electric car with one of these?........I am beggining to change my mind about ordering one :(

V

I contacted them with 2 questions. First, if they were going to make a smaller unit, say 1000 watt. Second question, all though they claim no pollution, but if their unit will lower the oxygen content in the air in confined spaces (ie, sailboat).

Since this is an obvious scam, I can't wait to hear their response from the second question I asked of them.

I will post their response, if I receive one at all.

[Serpo]

And why not run an electric car with one of these?........I am beggining to change my mind about ordering one :(

V

There must be some one that has brought one of these and talked about it on a forum , somewhere.

Well if you brought one Ponce we would then know if it was a scam or not..............;D

Who knows what is going on with these people and if its a scam then they can only lose big time.

[Glass]

I've seen it on Before Its News so now I know its real.

[Serpo]

They have a T shirt so it is real...................


I just checked ...its not April the first


They are asking 15000$ for a large one so there is a lot of money involved and if someone was selling something under false pretenses then dont expect them to be around long............. http://www.gdstechnologies.ca/images/TSHIRT.jpg




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GDS 5000




$5,360 CAD
5kw Turbine Generator
AC Voltage - 110/240
Digital Hour Meter
ON / OFF Switch

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GDS 10000




$7,870 CAD
10kw Turbine Generator
AC Voltage - 110/240
Digital Hour Meter
ON / OFF Switch

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GDS 15000




$14,885 CAD
15kw Turbine Generator
AC Voltage - 110/240
Digital Hour Meter
ON / OFF Switch

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[Serpo]

Directory:GDS Technologies' Portable Water Generators

http://peswiki.com/images/4/4a/GDS-Technologies_5kW_400.jpg (http://peswiki.com/index.php/Image:GDS-Technologies_5kW_400.jpg)
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http://peswiki.com/images/8/81/GDS-Technologies_5kW_inside_motor-generator_400.jpg (http://peswiki.com/index.php/Image:GDS-Technologies_5kW_inside_motor-generator_400.jpg) Note in this view the smaller motor turning a larger generator. Is it possible that this is actually a QMoGen (http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Motor-Generator_Self-Looped_with_Usable_Energy_Left_Over) and they don't realize it -- that the water power portion of it is extraneous?


"I'm guessing it's a QMoGen (http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Motor-Generator_Self-Looped_with_Usable_Energy_Left_Over) (notice the motor-generator portion) and they don't realize that yet; and the water portion may be unnecessary." - Sterling
Compiled by Sterling D. Allan (http://peswiki.com/index.php/Congress:Member:Sterling_D._Allan)
Pure Energy Systems News
October 26, 2014

Wow, it looks like the day has finally come that we get to make the big announcement that one of the exotic free energy generators has made it to market. Patrick Flanagan (http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Gillis_Patrick_Flanagan),

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Gillis_Patrick_Flanagan

who just purchased a 5kW system, brought this one to our attention.
GDS Technologies LTD, out of Ontario, Canada, has a water-powered, portable genset available for sale on their website, in output sizes of 5 kW, 10 kW and 15 kW, at a price of around $1000/kW. They say they can also custom build these in sizes up to 50 kW. It is controlled by a simple on/off switch.
It is much less than half as loud as a gasoline or diesel genset of the same power output. One tank of water (e.g. 4 gallons for the 5 kW) will run the device for three days; or you can hook a hose up to it (there is a check valve), and not worry about refilling the tank. It emits no pollution, no fumes, so it can be run indoors.
They will ship globally. The 15-day money-back guarantee doesn't include duties and shipping fees. "Please allow up to 14 business days," for shipping probably refers to Canadian orders. International probably takes more.
Let them know PES referred you, for a likely discount and commission for PES. (We've requested this relationship and are waiting to hear back. Wouldn't hurt to mention it.)
Their Alibaba (http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Portable-water-generator-runs-on-water-_50002273662.html) listing for their GDS 3000 system says they have 400 in stock.
Actually, I'm surprised we've not heard of them before now. Their YouTube video has been up since September 7, with over 2000 visits, and their Facebook page was first populated with news about this on August 24.
They list their devices as suitable for applications such as emergency back-up power, camping, motor homes, construction sites; so I presume they haven't gone through UL or CE hoops yet to allow home power generation without jeopardizing home warranties, etc. In one of our Facebook comments, Kenneth Segovia says: "Can you imagine putting something like this in the Tesla car?"
It seems they've been very conscientious in their design, putting in safety features (circuit breakers and emergency stop button), redundancy (e.g. 2 batteries instead of one, to start it up).
Maintenance involves draining the water tank and spraying it with a garden hose every 3 months. The water needs to be clean that it runs on, and not salt water.
As for running it, they say: "When you receive your new portable water generator just add 4 gallons of normal water in the tank and turn the red toggle switch to on position (emergency safety) that will start the battery and pump and turbine all at once. That easy. All units have been tested before leaving our facility. Instruction and warranty manuals will be supplied with every unit sold."
If you are thinking of powering your house with one of these, you need to realize that it is not yet UL / CE certified, so you could be voiding your home warranty. For emergency back-up, you'll want to make sure that you have a toggle switch to shut off from the grid completely when running the power from the genset into your service panel. If you're doing only small loads, you could plug your genset into a wall plug, through a male-male connector, which will power up one of the two legs of the service panel; then run an extension cord to another wall power plug from the other leg of the service panel, and the entire panel will be powered. Again, make sure you're disconnected from the grid if you do this so you don't jeopardize any linemen. Bear in mind that the wires going to that wall plug are 12 or 14 gauge, and limited to maybe 15 amps, so you'll not want to surpass that in the load you draw elsewhere in the house, or you'll trip the circuit breaker. You could double this limit by plugging into two separate circuits through the wall plugs, such as from two different rooms -- ditto for the other leg of the service panel.
After we get some kind of validation that this is for real, we'll be bumping it to #1 in our Top 5 (http://peswiki.com/index.php/Top_5_Exotic_Free_Energy_Technologies) listing.







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[Ponce]

The GDS5,000 is more than what I will ever need.....let me put it this way, the lowest the my electric bill has been is $27.85 and the highest $42.+.

V

[Hitch]

The GDS5,000 is more than what I will ever need.....let me put it this way, the lowest the my electric bill has been is $27.85 and the highest $42.+.

V

Ponce, don't send any money to these scammers.

Just wait, a bit. The truth will be come clear in time.

[expat4ever]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Meyer%27s_water_fuel_cell

[Glass]

A friend of mine built a hydrogen generating system from some plans on the net. Could be one of these guys like Meyer's design. He was looking at those hydrogen injector things that you can get which you hook up to a car and it makes and injects hydrogen in to the fuel air mix. He built something that was about the size of a regular generator so about the same size as this unit. It was just a prototype so he used some left over reinforced vinyl hose, some large plastic bottles that might hold ~4 gallons. Cleaning liquid / chlorine type bottles.

It used a plate of metal and something else, maybe added to the liquid. It worked fairly well. Produced gas no problem. Highly flamable though and at some point the whole thing went kaboom. Was fairly impressive bang based on the remnants and some markings on the concrete floor. Plus the dent in the garage door. don't know how efficient it was but he didn't bother to rebuild it.

[expat4ever]

I'm going to keep an eye on this one. If legit there should be copycats hitting the market anyday now. However I suspect its a scam as others have said already.

1st, He claims to have 400 units ready to go. If his cost is 1-2k then he has 400-800k invested in this project. With that much invested you hire someone to make a professional marketing video for you. Even 10 k would be a decent production and way better than what he has.
Seriously, the first thing he points out on the unit is the tires? LOL.

Also after spending all the money to produce these he has no bank account to accept CC? Maybe he was growing weed and had no bank account and a huge stack of cash to play with so he paid cash for everything? Still seems fishy to me.

We should know soon enough and if he is legit I will order a 10kwt unit in January or feb. If not then I'm going on vacation.. Pretty sure warmer weather is in my future for early next year :).

[singular_me]

I often look at the price of such inventions first and think it still is expensive if they are honest. People behind an invention that is serious about developing any anti-energy cartel solution should consider a low profit margin per device as the latter, if not a scam, should result in thousands of sales daily as the word of mouth would spread like wild fire.

[Ponce]

Ponce, don't send any money to these scammers.

Just wait, a bit. The truth will be come clear in time.

And besides, will the US government allowed this wonderful generator to come into the US...........I don't think so.

V

[Hitch]

A friend of mine built a hydrogen generating system from some plans on the net. Could be one of these guys like Meyer's design. He was looking at those hydrogen injector things that you can get which you hook up to a car and it makes and injects hydrogen in to the fuel air mix. He built something that was about the size of a regular generator so about the same size as this unit. It was just a prototype so he used some left over reinforced vinyl hose, some large plastic bottles that might hold ~4 gallons. Cleaning liquid / chlorine type bottles.

It used a plate of metal and something else, maybe added to the liquid. It worked fairly well. Produced gas no problem. Highly flamable though and at some point the whole thing went kaboom. Was fairly impressive bang based on the remnants and some markings on the concrete floor. Plus the dent in the garage door. don't know how efficient it was but he didn't bother to rebuild it.

I have an old sailor friend who designed something similar. His theory, is that you can run a diesel engine, without modifying it, with hydrogen. He was going to put valves directly into the injector lines. He thought you could start the engine with diesel, then when it's running, switch over to hydrogen injected directly into cylinders.

I ran that by my coworker, who's working on perpetual motion, and he said if you do that, you'll blow up that engine and everything around it. Sounds like he's right, after reading your friends story.

[Glass]

I have an old sailor friend who designed something similar. His theory, is that you can run a diesel engine, without modifying it, with hydrogen. He was going to put valves directly into the injector lines. He thought you could start the engine with diesel, then when it's running, switch over to hydrogen injected directly into cylinders.

I ran that by my coworker, who's working on perpetual motion, and he said if you do that, you'll blow up that engine and everything around it. Sounds like he's right, after reading your friends story.

I think the explosion was mostly to do with the low pressure fittings and hoses, gas collecting tank being made of thin plastic bottles even though they were 20L/5gal. I think it worked better at producing gas than he engineered it for. But I guess if you up the engineering and use metal fittings, pipes and tanks and the thing still goes bang, it would be bigger and possible deadly.

Plus there was the matter of the kids. But I liked the idea. He has made some impressive high pressure filtering systems for industrial gas recovery and cleaning/filtering. I was surprised he built it using the parts he did given the other stuff he has done.

[mick silver]

hey guys I have some land for sale in florida cheap

[Ponce]

GDS Technologies (water generator) is not ready to go yet
Greg told me he didn't plan on releasing these until December 15, when he had inventory built up; and that the website wording was in preparation for that; and that someone found the site and blasted it on several forums, which inundated him with inquiries and orders, which he will be refunding.


by Sterling D. Allan
Pure Energy Systems News

I just got off the phone with Gregory Potter, the inventor of the technology so many of you have seen by now, as we announced it as follows in our news, night before last:



Featured: Water > as Fuel / QMoGen? >
GDS Technologies' Portable Water Generators - Canadian company has a water-powered, portable genset available for sale on their website, in output sizes of 5 kW, 10 kW and 15 kW, at a price of around $1000/kW. Just 4 gallons of tap water will run the 5 kW system relatively quietly for three days. It emits no pollution, no fumes. Suitable for non-grid-tie applications. (PESWiki; October 26, 2014)


Greg Potter with his GDS3000, which they will not be selling. The 5kW system will be the smallest output they will sell.

It's been one of the most popular things we've posted in quite a while -- even more popular than the stories we did on the recent E-Cat (cold fusion) third party test results being published. Our index of news coverage on the E-Cat development is just past 10,000 visits, posted October 9. Meanwhile, in just the first 34 hours, our PESWiki page on GDS Technologies linked above has over 8,200 visits.

Greg said he has received around 1500 emails since yesterday morning, and was on the phone 12 hours yesterday fielding calls. It took me four tries this morning before I finally got through -- first thing in the morning. Here's a link to the recording of our call.

He said he received 10 orders by PayPal and needed to contact them to have them cancel those. I instructed him how to issue refunds in PayPal (it's really easy).

He's not ready to take orders yet, and hadn't planned on receiving orders until he announced his product in a press release and/or advertising. He wants to introduce the product on around December 15, after they've had a chance to build up some inventory -- and get international patent coverage. He has a meeting this Thursday with the attorneys for that purpose. He said he has a Canadian patent filed.

An investor associate of mine said he called Greg yesterday and was told that at first they were expecting the first delivery November 15, but now they are backlogged to December 15.

Obviously, Greg is not that savvy about how the web works, nor about product roll-out. But we should cut him some slack for an innocent mistake. I don't see it as being malicious or fraudulent; just naively reckless.

Presently he's essentially a one-man-band. He needs a good team wrapped around him who knows how to run a businesses and product roll-out, including the engineering, testing, branding, website, teasers, setting up manufacturing, distributing, etc.

Greg said his tech guy hasn't been available over the weekend to make the needed changes on their site. They're going to take down the purchase buttons and modify some wording to make it clear that these are not available yet. He needs to change the wording on the title of his video, too. I hope he doesn't make it private or unlisted -- just add notice in the title or description to clarify.

In getting this news, Patrick Flanagan (Tesla in former life?), who is the one who informed me about it two days ago, saying he had purchased one, wrote the following: "I don't want my money back. I would like to be first in line. I could probably help him engineering wise too."

When I pointed out to Greg that his website makes it look like they are ready to sell and deliver these units, he said that he had not intended for them to be public yet. I'm not sure how he expected that after having a YouTube video up with a reference to the site. Posted on September 7, that YouTube Video has just over 2,000 visits when I first viewed it Saturday night. By last night, it had over 17,000 visits. Now, as of 8:30 am MDT [GMT-6], it has over 27,000 views.

He said that someone posted a link to his site and video on several forums, which led to this inundation. Our coverage facilitated that inundation as well.

I assured him that the interest would begin to fizzle almost as rapidly, once we get this story up about them not actually being ready to go. He said he appreciated that.

He said something about his "team" and a "factory", but we were rushed, and I wasn't able to probe deeper on that one: how many on the team? what size factory? Their Alibaba listing for their GDS 3000 system says they are capable for producing 400/month. I'm not sure why they would have that page up, either, if they weren't yet ready to sell. That page makes no mention, either, of this not being available yet.

I asked him where he got the idea. He said it came to him in a dream about 4.5 years ago: "Build a [water] turbo generator, it will work". He didn't take it really seriously at first, and basically just researched the ideas for about a year before launching into trying to build one.

He said he's built about ten now. He told Chet Kremens that the ratings of the three generators sizes they plan to sell are actually significantly underplayed, and could handle a peak load that is 300% of the name plate output rating. So if you have 5 kW system, it would be more than adequate to handle a continuous load of 5 kW, with an infrequent spike of 15 kW.
CORRECTION: He told Chet that in a 5 kW system, the actual output was 7 kW, and that 2 kW was needed to run the system, leaving 5 kW for external use.

They're still not optimized in their engineering. It gets warm, which isn't good for the wear of the moving parts. If you try and run it 24/7 you'll have problems. He doesn't recommend running them more than 12 hours. He suggests 8 hours, followed by at least a three hour cool-down period. He said he has run a 5 kW system 8 hours every day for two years now. He expects that if run this way the system will last at least 6 years. Chet thinks that the heating problem should be easy to resolve with proper engineering, using the proper readily available parts.

He said they are not going to be selling the 3 kW system. The smaller parts needed are not reliable.

While he's not ready to sell yet, he said he is open to engineering help. I recommended he hook up as soon as possible with Mike Waters, President of NEST, who actually invented something quite similar to this and is presently working on a variation of it as we speak. Mike told me he's more than willing to drive up this week.

Someone asked whether groups would have permission to replicate the technology. My reply (this isn't coming from Greg) is that the principle is yes, you can replicate. He's filing for international patent coverage so that people will be required to work through him to be legit and not prone to law suit over patent infringement. I would think they would appreciate people replicating so they know what they are doing, then license for manufacturing.

[Glass]

hey guys I have some land for sale in florida cheap

Is the water table above or below the surface? Does it come with any natural resources for making handbags or shoes?

[Ponce]

No but add an extra gallon of water and this blond will jump out and give you a kiss......add three gallons for more :)

V

[crimethink]

Is the water table above or below the surface? Does it come with any natural resources for making handbags or shoes?

I think he meant swampland, so, yes to the second question.

[mick silver]

I have not seen the land for years glass , are you a betting man

[Glass]

I have not seen the land for years glass , are you a betting man

Baby needs a new pair of shoes...... and maybe a handbag.