From another site....how are you heating your place?.......... V

[Ponce]

Well, I only used firewood the first year that I moved here....for the last 13 years a Toyo kerosene heather, and I love it.

I was using less than half a gallon a day and now that I am only heating the living room much less, I'll have to wait till I buy kerosen once again to know how much i have used for the past two years..... have in stock 3/4 of a tank, 110 gallons, and seven 44 gallons containeres..........three cords of wood put away for the past 13 years hahaahah, bugs must be living high inside of them..

So, at this other site some of them were paying up to THREE HUNDRED dollars per cord and were using five cords a year. In the future they will burning their furniture for heating and remembering the good old days....very little wood in my property but for eight super duper and BIG pine trees but I am surrounded by a forest, I like to look at my forest, not burn it.....

So, what do you do for heating and at what cost?

V

[woodman]

Wood. I used to cut and split it all. The last two years I've been buying it. I have an outdoor woodburner. It smokes like a freakin volcano.

Ponce, I don't know about the type of kerosene heater you have, but they are not healthy due to the vapors they put out. A friend was running one in his home and the fumes went into solution in his fish tank and killed all his fish. He started thinking about what it was doing to him and got rid of it. If you can smell it when you come in from outside, that probably isn't good.

[Jerrylynnb]

Natural gas. This old house (built in 1927, that's a whole 'nuther story) was originally plumbed for natural gas and low amp electricity. Natural gas gets expensive (about $175/month during the winter, $20/month otherwise), but, it is clean and sure does throw out the heat. I shut off the pilot during the summer, and this old central heating unit (installed in 1972) keeps on keeping on. In addition, there are three individual natural gas outlets for which I have small floor units that can be fired up should we lose electricity (happens too often way out here in the sticks). I also have electric foot heaters since the wooden floor, which sits about 3 feet off the ground (on blocks) gets cold as ice even when the central unit is fired up and blowing away.

I will always prefer natural gas for heating and cooking. It is plentiful and, once the plumbing is done correctly by an experienced plumber, you can go for a century or more with no problems.

[Neuro]

Our house in Sweden is mainly heated with wood in hyper efficient old ceramic stoves, we also have electric radiators, but without electricity we can certainly be comfortable enough, we also have an old cast iron wood stove in the kitchen, which we can use to cook on if we have no electricity...

Ponce did you notice if your blood pressure is higher in cold season, compared to the summer? If so your Kerosene stove may carbon monoxide poison you. Carbon monoxide has about a thousand times higher affinity to hemoglobin compared to oxygen, and since the brain requires oxygen in large amounts, it will control it by raising the blood pressure, so more blood flows to your head.

[milehi]

My friend and I spit five cords of ponderosa earlier this week. I have about two cords of oak in my driveway that needs to be handled. A perfect excuse to drink and use gas powered tools.

[Ponce]

Thanks for your concern guys but my kerosine heather is 100% safe.....you guys should search for how it is build, it has a tuve withing a tube that goes to the outside.....one tube brings in the clean air and the other one takes out the burn air......my BP is the same at all time winter, summer, awake, asleep, running or standing still...............like a said, do a search on the Toyo heather and you will probably buy one.

V

[mick silver]

we burn wood it free if you look for down trees after storms , so far this year we have put up about 8 cords . we never use all we cut but there next year . plus I had 100 ac log a year back so I have all the tops I want it easy then dropping the whole tree and plus it been season for a better burn . nothing like the heat of wood

[woodman]

we burn wood it free if you look for down trees after storms , so far this year we have put up about 8 cords . we never use all we cut but there next year . plus I had 100 ac log a year back so I have all the tops I want it easy then dropping the whole tree and plus it been season for a better burn . nothing like the heat of wood

Agreed mick. Wood heat is hard not to like. If it gets to warm, just open a window or door. It sure is nice to warm your bones by a fire or a wood stove.

[Serpo]

Aye wood it is, but hey ,its turning into summer downunder,its not going to be a concern for a while now.

Sounds like one mean winter coming in the N hemi though.

As to kero , its from the petro chem industry and the vapors are toxic ......no way ...........although ponce is getting a bit on a bit to be chopping wood.

[Cebu_4_2]

Ponce care to elaborate on this
Toyo heather?

I remember trying to figure out what it was last year also.

[Shami-Amourae]

The primary heat source for my home is my PC. No joke. It's a monster rig so, umm yeah.

[expat4ever]

I'll burn 3-4 cord this year. cost is about 150 a cord delivered and split for good oak. So cost is 450-600 a year to heat almost 1800 sqr feet. I have a passive solar embankment house though so the sun does a lot of work as well. Yesterday it got down to 20 so it was my first fire of the year. Today is the 2nd and then based on the 10 day forcast I wont have to burn again for the next 10 days. Or maybe just a little for an hr or so first thing in the morning to take the dampmness out on rainy days. Definitely the best heat to have is wood.
I also have plenty stading on the property in case the world ends. Short of that scenario though I just let em grow and buy it. I still cant believe anyone would sell wood that cheap but as long as they do I will keep buying.

[expat4ever]

Ponce care to elaborate on this ?

I remember trying to figure out what it was last year also.

Sounds like some kinky Japanese thing so umm yea I am interested as well.

[midnight rambler]

That's classified info. If I told you I'd have to kill you. You think I'm kidding, I'm not. Perhaps I'll tell you in a few months when we have a (somewhat) monopoly secured. (hint: it *could* be referred to as a zero point energy source however loosely)

[Cebu_4_2]

My last wood burner had a patented catalytic burner system that would reburn the shit that would normally go up the chimney. Used half the wood and much more controllable for a fireplace insert. Was made in the early '70s, very interesting piece of work. Cant remember the name of the thing but it would heat the whole house (2 levels) with fans blowing heat around and that was around 1900 foot. Not sure how much I would burn but I would fill a 2 car garage half full of chopped, split and stacked for the season.

[palani]

If you want to cook out, you just can't live without
Propane
If you beers are all downed, beef is all ground
Propane
Grill don't fry, Grill don't fry, Grill don't fry,
Propane

If your power is out , don't wanna go eat out
Propane
When you hate briquettes, and mesquite upsets
Propane
You must buy, You must buy, You must buy
Propane

If George Foreman's passé, and it's Labor Day
Propane
Burgers, hot dogs, or steak, spare ribs or meat that's fake
Propane
Try rib-eye, not stir-fry, tofu's dry
Propane

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If you wanna cook out you've got to worry 'bout; propane.
Put the canister down, down on the ground; propane.
Need a light, need light, to ignite; propane.

I got some bad news, got the burned chicken blues; propane.
Before your food is done, you won't wanna run out; propane.
Need a light, need light, to ignite; propane.

If your tank is done and you wanna fill on; propane.
Don't forget this fact, you can take it back; propane.
It won't light, It won't light, It won't light; propane.

[Dogman]

Until ambient temperature is so low that propane becomes as worthless as tits on a boar hog!

[palani]

Until ambient temperature is so low that propane becomes as worthless as tits on a boar hog!
Typical southern mistake. That is butane that fails at low temps.

[Ponce]

For the first time my kerocene heather started more than once last night....I got it se up at 58 and it goes to 64 before it goes off.......the temperature outside was 45 this morning........by the way my Toyo is not one of dinky piece of crap....is about 3'X4' and it weights about 150 lbs, it sits 3" from the wall and it has a tube with a smaller one inside going to the outside......one for fresh air in and one for bad air out..........up till now I used, maybe, 1.5 gallons of fuel.

V

[Cebu_4_2]

For the first time my kerocene heather started more than once last night....I got it se up at 58 and it goes to 64 before it goes off.......the temperature outside was 45 this morning........by the way my Toyo is not one of dinky piece of crap....is about 3'X4' and it weights about 150 lbs, it sits 3" from the wall and it has a tube with a smaller one inside going to the outside......one for fresh air in and one for bad air out..........up till now I used, maybe, 1.5 gallons of fuel.

V

So what kind of heater is it?

[Ponce]

Kerosene...........I did a search trying to find it on line........NOWHERE.......all that I can find under Toyo Heather are some Micky Mouse pieces of crap...no wonder you guys keep thinking that it will kill me........ I might be crazy but not stupid........Ponce's famous last words ahahahahahah.......by the way, had it for 13 years and it still like new.......all that I do is to clean or change the fuel filter next to the 175 Gallons fuel tank.

V

[Dogman]

https://www.toyotomiusa.com/factoryOutletStore/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=158

[Hitch]

A lot of older sailboats are heated with kerosine, most now are propane. Personally, I'd rather use kerosine for heating over propane. Ponce, you'll be fine, if a sailboat limited on ventilation uses kerosine without issues, you shouldn't have to worry.

I use a simple electric heater. If the power goes out, I use oil. If the power stays out, I'll sail south where I won't need a heater.

[Ponce]

https://www.toyotomiusa.com/factoryOutletStore/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=158

THAT'S THE ONE........The Laser 73........all set up with the fuel tank and so on the price was of $2,300....I think, 13 years is way past my bed time.

[Dogman]

THAT'S THE ONE........The Laser 73........all set up with the fuel tank and so on the price was of $2,300....I think, 13 years is way past my bed time.

Say thank you!

Lol!

No problem amigo gots u covered!

[govcheetos]

When it gets cold as fuck, and you've been down on your luck,

here comes a big ole truck...

OF PROPANE!

[Ponce]

Remember gov. I use less than 1/2 a gallon a day, about $1.25........how much for propane?

V

[midnight rambler]

In order to maintain efficiency with a kerosene heater it's necessary to replace the wick periodically.

Also, I've used kerosene heaters quite a bit and I know from experience that a carbon monoxide detector/alarm is an absolute must.

[Ponce]

Rambler, this one has no wick.......is like turning on you propane stove.......first it make a click while it does its own check out.....then another click with a small flame to test the air.....if it is happy with te situation it then goes full blast.........you can touch it or put stuff on top ot it and it is safe.......love it.

V

[woodman]

Rambler, this one has no wick.......is like turning on you propane stove.......first it make a click while it does its own check out.....then another click with a small flame to test the air.....if it is happy with te situation it then goes full blast.........you can touch it or put stuff on top ot it and it is safe.......love it.

V

That sounds like a hell of a nice stove Ponce. It sure is expensive though. The one problem with heating with oil is spilling it when filling the heater. I once used an oil space heater, more like a furnace because it was vented, and it was a pain in the ass to fill it without getting the place smelly from dripped fuel. We had a fuel oil tank outside and would use a fuel can to bring the fuel in. Had to be careful not to drip any but as long as no drips, no problem. It worked great. I do not love the kerosene heaters with wicks though. They are a bad animal.

[Ponce]

I did like the ones in Alaska for field duty.....in the outside it had a regular five gallons gas can, inside the tent it had the heather that you threw a match in and that was it...I love the WOOOOOOO sound that it just to make.

V