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Cebu_4_2
10th November 2014, 03:14 PM
Obamacare Architect: We Passed the Law Thanks to the ‘Stupidity of the American Voter’
Nov. 10, 2014 9:47am
Zach Noble (http://www.theblaze.com/author/zach-noble/)

One of the architects of Obamacare said the law was written in a deliberately “tortured” way and relied on the “stupidity of the American voter” to ensure its passage.

In a newly unearthed 2013 clip, Jonathan Gruber, the MIT health economist who helped craft parts of the Affordable Care Act (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07/25/then-and-now-obamacare-architect-flips-position-on-key-aspect-of-law/), got fairly candid about the tactics used to get the Affordable Care Act passed during a panel at the Annual Health Economists’ Conference (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOfVv-ePcng) last year.

“This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure [the Congressional Budget Office] did not score the mandate as taxes,” Gruber said in one 52-second clip (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G790p0LcgbI). “If CBO scored the mandate as taxes, the bill dies. OK, so it’s written to do that. In terms of risk-rated subsidies, if you had a law which said that healthy people are going to pay in – you made explicit healthy people pay in and sick people get money, it would not have passed.”

Gruber then trumpeted the value of a “lack of transparency” — and called American voters stupid.
“Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,” Gruber said. “And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really really critical for the thing to pass.”

Better for the American people to be saddled with a law they don’t understand, Gruber claimed, than for them to understand the law and rally against it.

“Look, I wish … we could make it all transparent,” Gruber said, “but I’d rather have this law than not.”

UPDATE: The original video that contained Gruber’s comments was deleted from YouTube on Monday morning.

ShortJohnSilver
10th November 2014, 04:05 PM
So why is he still alive? I would have thought TPTB would have wiped him by now. They tend to discard their tools after using them.

Cebu_4_2
10th November 2014, 04:36 PM
So why is he still alive? I would have thought TPTB would have wiped him by now. They tend to discard their tools after using them.

The american people didn't see this in MSM and the ones that did already forgot while watching hockey.

In general the american people are stupid, no doubt in my eyes. This is why I don't partake in much which involve a general population.

iOWNme
11th November 2014, 10:54 AM
When should you shoot a 'bureaucrat'?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G790p0LcgbI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOXP9Juia_U

Twisted Titan
11th November 2014, 11:07 AM
The full magnitude of ebolacare should be felt this year.

As i am somebody who doesnt have it and will file taxes.

I will see if they apply the penalty

SWRichmond
11th November 2014, 11:07 AM
Anyone who still believes that political action will solve America's problems needs only to watch these videos.

Libertytree
11th November 2014, 11:22 AM
Not to be a smart ass but.....that's not exactly new news, at least not to us. Its passing was a given, like so many other laws that are too big to read and understand and then forced down out throats.

jbeck57143
11th November 2014, 12:17 PM
This looks like the original video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHihDa_VPWw

The 52 second clip with Gruber starts at about 20:34

The 52 second clip is at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G790p0LcgbI

Spectrism
11th November 2014, 12:19 PM
This slimeball will be suicided soon.

Cebu_4_2
11th November 2014, 12:25 PM
The full magnitude of ebolacare should be felt this year.

As i am somebody who doesnt have it and will file taxes.

I will see if they apply the penalty

I was reading you have to pay the penalty out of what you get in returns. So if you don't get a return the IRS will put a lien on your property the same as if you lost in a collections case. This is why I initially was looking into a blind trust for my home. Other than that I am insolvent and untouchable.

old steel
11th November 2014, 12:29 PM
When are you Americans going to wake up? What is it going to take?

I see some violent entrepreneurs challenging the center for power in your future, soon...

Terry853
11th November 2014, 01:47 PM
I tend to agree with the above statement..

mick silver
11th November 2014, 02:05 PM
is there a football game on tv tonight

gunDriller
11th November 2014, 02:26 PM
is there a football game on tv tonight

yes, the Chicago Bears with Mike Ditka as Coach.


hey, if i'm going to be delusional, i might as well live in a time when Chicago had a decent team ! :)

Serpo
11th November 2014, 02:49 PM
Dosnt matter what happens the medical system is a flawed and unwell and nothing is ever going to save it , until it dies completely and we start using real health cures as opposed to the side affect pills which of course you need another pill to counteract the side affects of the first one.

Serpo
11th November 2014, 02:55 PM
yes, the Chicago Bears with Mike Ditka as Coach.


hey, if i'm going to be delusional, i might as well live in a time when Chicago had a decent team ! :)


Pity you guys are not very good at rugby as it would of made for a more entertaining match

http://www.foxsports.com.au/what-the-fox/us-public-react-hilariously-to-nuts-and-intense-all-blacks-rugby-test/story-fnn4peyo-1227109897415?nk=1787b7c05d5861992b3647167d96cd20

iOWNme
12th November 2014, 09:21 AM
How can scrawny little weaklings like this get so much control and power over people? What kind of situation outside of 'Government' would allow for the weakest to control the strongest?

And yes, he said it AGAIN.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_XSUFyNA-I

General of Darkness
12th November 2014, 09:34 AM
Hitler agrees, the goyim are fucking stupid.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/06/23/article-1028813-00CDA84F000004B0-193_468x321.jpg

crimethink
12th November 2014, 07:04 PM
The full magnitude of ebolacare should be felt this year.

As i am somebody who doesnt have it and will file taxes.

I will see if they apply the penalty

"Individual Shared Responsibility" penalty.

http://www.irs.gov/uac/Individual-Shared-Responsibility-Provision

A whole series of new forms are waiting for everyone. Forms 1094 (B & C), 1095 (A - C), 8941, 8962, and 8965.

http://iaam.net/irs_releases_obamacare_form_dr.php

Draft Forms 1040 (regular, A, and EZ):

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-dft/f1040--dft.pdf (Line 61)
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-dft/f1040a--dft.pdf (Line 38)
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-dft/f1040ez--dft.pdf (Line 11)

iOWNme
16th November 2014, 07:49 AM
Obama: "Full transparency was disclosed with 'Obamacare' ". "No we did not mislead the American people".

Obam claims Gruber was never on his healthcare panel. Yet, Gruber was paid $395k a year for SOME REASON. LOL


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOdDFvSPZDI

Spectrism
16th November 2014, 09:05 AM
Obama: "Full transparency was disclosed with 'Obamacare' ". "No we did not mislead the American people".

Obam claims Gruber was never on his healthcare panel. Yet, Gruber was paid $395k a year for SOME REASON. LOL


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOdDFvSPZDI

That nigger do lie.

He said there was a year-long debate and the news reporter can go back and look at his stories. Well, the news media sheltered this liar and the communist cause of the devils enslaving Amerika.

Shami-Amourae
30th October 2016, 02:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq8LzfM_WVM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYhJ5XkV19U