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singular_me
12th November 2014, 07:04 AM
science is about to embark on "esoteric" path... and there is no way back... the word esoteric is about to become meaningless and atheism stands no chance here. I dont know if can believe this 2D experiment's conclusions just yet since academia likes to spread confusion to withhold the truth (3D is more likely), but I am posting it as I find the whole topic fascinating. No, your brain is not about to fall off, we are just entering a another but greater paradigm.

For many years I have been at odds with the quantum string theory but I finally understood that the strings form the geometrical shapes of the Universe as described by the ancient science of sacred geometry. We all know that earth has a magnetic grid, invisible but is there. The same exists at a cosmic level. The dot (first dimension) the line (2nd dimension) the triangle (3rd dimension) ... then the triangle duplicates itself to the infinite, which means that the properties of the triangle are also repeated endlessly, hence holographic. It also is the latter that defines the shape of the circle and the cube.

ps: holographic theories have been out there for at least 3 decades... and finally academia recognizes their existence. Sacred Geometry has been out there for millennia and not discovered by cavemen, thats for sure.

the shape of the Universe, this repeated to the infinite. The holographic principle is a property of string theories... Cosmological holography has not been made mathematically precise, partly because the cosmological horizon has a finite area and grows with time. (WIKI)
http://www.satori4u.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/64-Tetrahedron-Grid-.jpg

"Let no one ignorant of geometry enter". Tradition has it that this phrase was engraved at the door of Plato's Academy

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Cosmometry is the study and application of the fundamental patterns, structures, processes and principles that are at the foundation of all manifestation in the Universe, both physical and metaphysical. Just like Buckminster Fuller's subtitle to Synergetics: Explorations in the Geometry of Thinking, this field is primarily about how consciousness is able to perceive and comprehend the ways in which Universal creation is employing basic "design principles" in the manifestation of everything from atoms to us to galaxies.
http://www.cosmometry.net/
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Freaky Physics Experiment May Prove Our Universe Is A Two-Dimensional Hologram
08/29/2014

Everyone knows the universe exists in three dimensions, right? Maybe not. For some time now serious physicists have been pondering the seemingly absurd possibility that three-dimensional space is merely an illusion--and that we actually live in a two-dimensional "hologram."

And now scientists at the Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory in Illinois have launched a mind-blowing experiment to show once and for all what sort of universe we live in.

"We want to find out whether space-time is a quantum system just like matter is," Dr. Craig Hogan, director of Fermilab's Center for Particle Astrophysics, said in a written statement. "If we see something, it will completely change ideas about space we've used for thousands of years.".....................
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/29/space-hologram-experiment-two-dimensions_n_5726262.html
or
The Fermi National Accelerator Lab near Chicago, once home to the historic Tevatron atom smasher, has a new toy: the Holometer. As its rather fancy name suggests, the Holometer is for testing whether our universe is actually a 2D hologram that’s painted on some kind of cosmological horizon, popping into 3D whenever we attempt to observe it (i.e. always). The Holometer, which has been under construction for a couple of years, is now operating at full power and will gather data for the next year or so — after which, there’s a very good chance that it’ll be able to tell us whether the universe is a hologram or not. And, of course, if the universe is a 2D hologram… what does that make us?....... The holographic universe principle is part of string theory — or rather, if the universe is governed by string theory, then it follows that the universe could be a hologram as well.
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/188727-pixels-of-the-universe-experiment-begins-to-see-if-the-universe-is-a-2d-hologram

also:
http://www.nature.com/news/simulations-back-up-theory-that-universe-is-a-hologram-1.14328

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Our universe is a hologram, and we’re floating inside of it, suggests new research December 16, 2013
An extraordinary theory that has been getting cred lately is one that suggests our own universe is actually a hologram. Now, a new study uncovers evidence that lends further credibility to this terrifying theory.
........ If we’re living within a hologram and made to think it’s just our normal universe, there isn’t much of a way we’d know if that’s how it was designed. A disturbing thought, so naturally, some very smart scientists are trying to figure out if we live in the universe as we know it — or not.
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/188727-pixels-of-the-universe-experiment-begins-to-see-if-the-universe-is-a-2d-hologram

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Aug 31, 2014

Have you ever wondered if the universe is actually just a holographic projection? While it sounds crazy, Dr. Ian O’Neill and Trace explain why scientists are experimenting to find out if the universe is a hologram!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZZlu5Ckecc

also
The Holographic Universe (Part One)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMBt_yfGKpU

Is Our Universe a Hologram?
March 5, 2014
http://www.scientificamerican.com/video/is-our-universe-a-hologram-video/
and
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/10513737/Why-the-universe-could-be-a-hologram-according-to-new-research.html

THE HOLOGRAPHIC MATRIX
And this is where the cosmic horror seeps in. There was an influential piece published in Philosophical Quarterly in 2003, arguing that we probably are living in a computer simulation and this argument has nothing to do with the physical experiments now being carried out. The philosophical argument pivots on the point that if humanity continues surviving and computer technology continues advancing, we will inevitably reach a stage where it will be possible to simulate the entire planet and all of its living beings.
http://news.yahoo.com/universe-really-hologram-203240505.html


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mick silver
12th November 2014, 08:59 AM
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madfranks
12th November 2014, 12:26 PM
The dot (first dimension) the line (2nd dimension) the triangle (3rd dimension)


You've got that wrong. A dot, or point, is a zero dimensional "space", because there is no movement allowed in any direction. The line is a one dimensional "space", because movement is limited to one dimension, the "X" coordinate. A triangle or square is a two dimensional "space" because movement is limited to two dimensions, the "X" and "Y" of a typical coordinate plane. A pyramid or cube would be a three dimensional space, because movement is allowed in three dimensions, "X", "Y" and "Z".

singular_me
12th November 2014, 09:35 PM
I understand what you are saying... and yes, my mistake. Ooops... so more later. Must find out what I may have mixed up.

back
well, I dont know what I had in mind when writing this. Comment well taken, thanks






You've got that wrong. A dot, or point, is a zero dimensional "space", because there is no movement allowed in any direction. The line is a one dimensional "space", because movement is limited to one dimension, the "X" coordinate. A triangle or square is a two dimensional "space" because movement is limited to two dimensions, the "X" and "Y" of a typical coordinate plane. A pyramid or cube would be a three dimensional space, because movement is allowed in three dimensions, "X", "Y" and "Z".

Glass
12th November 2014, 09:59 PM
I think the definition of hologram is ambiguous. I never gave the term much credence and I think most people hold my view, that it is rubbish that we are a projection.

HOWEVER, I watched a video posted here by someone, possibly Singular or Serpo. I think it was a talk by a former Satanist but I might be mistaken. That persons description of hologram/holographic universe made sense of it all. I could see that it was not a projection that he was saying hologram/holographic universe was.

Does anyone recollect that? I think it would be worth linking the two posts/topics because it would help people frame the term better in their minds.

singular_me
12th November 2014, 11:20 PM
Let agree on the definition of 'holographic" first before discussing further, this means that every portion of the universe contains symbols/characteristics of the Whole.... the one in the whole and the whole in the one so to speak. I'd think that the words "fractal" and "hologram" mean same in this case.


the vid you are referring to Glass was with Mark Passio speaking about the New Age deception. I posted it.

Glass
13th November 2014, 03:41 AM
certainly thats someone I watched. I'm pretty sure he gave the description I was talking about. I have to say I cant remember the specifics of it. At the time I thought it made lot of sense. More than we are all some projection. I need to watch it again. Time permitting. I'll tag the time when he talks about it if I remember.

singular_me
13th November 2014, 05:37 AM
this to clarify and summarize "holographic" ... found in the extremetech article. the macro *mirrors* the micro and otherwise.


The holographic principle goes something like this. From our zoomed out vantage point, the universe seems to be a perfectly formed enclave of 4D spacetime. Look around you: Everything is as it should be. What happens if you keep zooming in, though? Past microbes, past protons, past electrons… until you get down to the smallest possible unit that can exist in the universe. Moving closer to an old-style TV until you can see the individual pixels is a very good analogy. The holographic principle suggests that, if you zoom in far enough, we will eventually see the pixels of the universe. It’s theorized that these universal pixels are about 10 trillion trillion times smaller than an atom (the Planck scale, in physics terms).

I think the OP title is a little confusing because of the word hologram. However, this experiment is a waste of taxpayers money as there could be up to twelve dimensions in the Universe.

madfranks
13th November 2014, 07:55 AM
I understand what you are saying... and yes, my mistake. Ooops... so more later. Must find out what I may have mixed up.

back
well, I dont know what I had in mind when writing this. Comment well taken, thanks

You got it. Also, here's some more fun math behind the concept of dimensional progression (I studied dimension theory because of how it relates to my profession).

A point is single. Move perpendicular to the point (which is actually any direction), and you expand into one dimensional space, and double the points (two points, one at each end of the line).

Move perpendicular to the line, and you expand into two dimensional space, and double the points (four points at the ends of a square).

Move perpendicular to the square, and you expand into three dimensional space, and double the points (8 points at the corners of a cube).

Now, move perpendicular to the cube, and you're in four-dimensional "hyperspace", and a four-dimensional cube (called a tesseract), and you double the points (a tesseract has 16 points at all of its corners).

Here is a picture of a tesseract rotating in three dimensions:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/55/Tesseract.gif

You can continue this progression to infinity, as in, a 5-dimensional cube will have 32 points, a 6-dimensional cube will have 64 points, a 7-dimensional cube will have 128 points... forever.

crimethink
13th November 2014, 05:36 PM
Everyone knows the universe exists in three dimensions, right?

No. It has four - length, width, depth, and time.

I can assure you, Goldissima, that Fermilab is not going to bring forth any "discoveries" that help people to understand or even acknowledge God.

Our universe may very well be a projection of the Mind of God - a "hologram," if you will. But God is the central part. Matter is frozen energy, and God, as the Son, is the key. "And He is before all things, and by Him all things consist." Colossians 1:17.

crimethink
13th November 2014, 05:39 PM
An animation starring Fred Alan Wolf (no, I don't agree with everything he believes, but this helps give perspective on multiple dimensions):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWyTxCsIXE4

crimethink
13th November 2014, 05:44 PM
A highly-theoretical proposal for ten dimensions:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4Gotl9vRGs

singular_me
15th November 2014, 07:17 AM
yes CT... in my attempt to summarize too much and too fast in the post starting this thread, I just ended up writing a few inconsistencies.

CT: No. It has four - length, width, depth, and time.
for anybody interested, just youtube, Introduction to Cube Cosmology.

I nonetheless stick to what I said, that there are up to 12 dimensions, some of my data refers to 11 though.

TWELVE DIMENSIONS
the three dimensions of space (length, breadth and height)
time
thought
feeling
the three fundamental energies which make up physical and non-physical matter (etheric, magnetic and electric)



Yes, the square and cube are very important in (sacred) geometry. Aren't the muslims worshiping The Mysterious Black Stone of Kaaba (see link below) which is stored in a cubic shaped monument?


http://www.asiaexplorers.com/pics/kaaba.jpg

But yet there is the triangle... or tetrahedron, worshiped by judeo-christianity. The torah has the star of david and christians, the trinity.

http://holofractal.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/fractal_tetrahedra___ivm_by_perrelet-d413kxm.jpg

the point here is that world has been worshiping math since ever, and the worship can be found in many other spiritual/religious beliefs, in pantheism too.

http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/flower_of_life_images/movmetatron.gif

red ice creations:
stone of kaaba, a meteorite?
http://redicecreations.com/article.php?id=17158


images speaking by themselves, more triangles

Flower of Life - Turkey
http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/flower_of_life_images/fol_turkey.jpg


Flower of Life - Amistar, India
http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/flower_of_life_images/fol_amritsar1.jpg


The Flower of Life set in stone at the Temple of Osiris at Abydos, Egypt.
http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/flower_of_life_images/fol_Abydos.jpg


Flower of Life carving on a globe under a guardian lion's paw in Beijing
http://www.mi.sanu.ac.rs/vismath/visbook/tarnai/Image1.jpg

nothing pagan/new age in here but spiritual math... ie: sacred geometry. Numbers are God's language... the only problem is that numbers have been subverted by the elites to make sure we would not understand them.

singular_me
3rd August 2016, 10:19 AM
am adding to the 2 years old thread.... gosh time is passing fast. The "universe is a computer-hologram" dilemma is alive and kicking.

Now this said, I believe this to be partially true. More plausible than improbable. Icke explains it in 15mins, irrefutable



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvR-sgL70l8

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cheka.
3rd August 2016, 10:22 AM
straight out of the protocols

Shami-Amourae
3rd August 2016, 10:59 AM
I always knew Anime was real.

https://s31.postimg.org/8t32zjmrf/1462052743327.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/rley34j5j/)

https://s31.postimg.org/k6pmaqxa3/1462053351676.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/4l8aqslbr/)

singular_me
3rd August 2016, 11:26 AM
not straight out of the protocols but most likley those who wrote the protocols knew about all this and draft them accordingly to take mind control several step further down, anchor the programming even deeper.

it is obvious that Thought creates reality, it is (meta)physics and nothing else.

singular_me
3rd August 2016, 11:29 AM
I always knew Anime was real.


yes it may be

but fighting any world illusion can be lethal

Horn
3rd August 2016, 09:13 PM
The only place in the Universe where there are only 2 dimensions is the human brain, everything else has 3.

Conclusion - your brain lacks some dimension

Glass
3rd August 2016, 10:31 PM
I personally don't like the Holographic projection label because it doesn't properly describe the concept.

What is does do, erroneously IMO is give the reader the impression of a great (Mahoosive) projector which is projecting a holographic image.

What I think we are talking about is a concept that says "nothing is solid". Sure somethings are hard which makes them appear solid but no thing is solid. Somethings are less not solid than others are. Water appears less solid than a rock. Yet if you crash into, hit water at sufficient speed with a more solid material it will seem more solid than at other times i.e. when it is sloshing around on the ocean shore.

The hologram really means no thing is solid and they are only atoms that are consolidating due to similar or vibrations in those atoms. There are still spaces between those atoms and the density of the the consolidated thing varies according to the vibrations. Slower vibrating things appear to be "very" more solid than higher vibrating things.

The higher or faster something vibrates the closer it gets to light. Taking into account that there is a lot of the light spectrum our poor ill equiped eyes cannot detect. Suggesting that we would need to vibrate at higher levels ourselves in order to detect those things that vibrate at higher frequencies.

It could also be that the binding force that brings those atoms into closer proximity restricts the natural vibrations, so a rock could be less solid if the binding force did not slow it's atomic vibrations as much.

I guess this is what they have been chasing. The answer to the question of: What is this binding force?

Horn
4th August 2016, 12:32 AM
I guess if you wanted to look at Consciousness as a Hologram, you could say that it could be how God perceived it himself or created the universe.

But then as is always the case, anyone's projection of themselves typically comes out completely different than intended and not a Hologram.

Even if/when knowing in some sort of temporary fashion who you might be, things can mutate. :)

Glass
4th August 2016, 01:47 AM
Perhaps everything does start as 2D and it IS how we look at it that gives it DEPTH.

In the beginning: A hex upon us.
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc88/glassgold/box/2DCubetrim_zpsrnurfb1w.gif

To find a point in 3 dimensional space we need 6 points for alignment.
Each point is located on a plane.
If we have 6 points, we have 6 planes
6 conjoined planes gives us: Hexa-He-Dron
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc88/glassgold/box/InnerAnim3crop_zpsmjwqb7rq.gif
Cubes are very popular with certain groups. I wonder why?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8e/PIA18274-Saturn-NorthPolarHexagon-Cassini-20140402.jpg

Horn
4th August 2016, 03:31 PM
i turned my phone sideways and placed my eyeball on the edge of it,

started to see those hex pixelating... glass :)