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crimethink
22nd November 2014, 05:47 AM
http://online.wsj.com/articles/automation-makes-us-dumb-1416589342
Just look skyward. Since their invention a century ago, autopilots have helped to make air travel safer and more efficient. That happy trend continued with the introduction of computerized “fly-by-wire” jets in the 1970s. But now, aviation experts worry that we’ve gone too far. We have shifted so many cockpit tasks from humans to computers that pilots are losing their edge—and beginning to exhibit what the British aviation researcher Matthew Ebbatson calls “skill fade.”
singular_me
22nd November 2014, 07:01 AM
technology also could make us understand that we have a life time to study what we're passionate for... it really is a double edged sword... depending on whether we can get rid of the NWO or not
Ponce
22nd November 2014, 08:11 AM
Very good and very true....why think how to add 2+2 when an adding machine can do it for you? why bother to learn how to make fire when a lighter can do it for you?...the "conveniences" of modern times steals that part of your brain that makes you think.....and as the old saying goes "use it or loose it".......there is now very little left in most minds.
"The glass of water has to be refilled if you want to drink"... :)
V
crimethink
22nd November 2014, 03:09 PM
technology also could make us understand that we have a life time to study what we're passionate for... it really is a double edged sword... depending on whether we can get rid of the NWO or not
Countless times now over the past several centuries we've been promised a "better life" through technology, but it's always come with great negatives. It's not only the New World Order that's lied about it.
As automation increases, more jobs will be deleted, and, eventually, more unemployable people will have to be "deleted."
collector
22nd November 2014, 05:19 PM
...and more control will be lost.
It's better for the power structure to have the ability to control the machines with an over-ride function rather than let a pilot, soldier, cop, etc have the ability to challenge a directive or abort a mission due to some moral constraint. This expands into every facet of society - automated menu paths over the telephone, automobile stops, even banking transactions through ATMs and retail point of sale purchases.
crimethink
22nd November 2014, 08:33 PM
...and more control will be lost.
It's better for the power structure to have the ability to control the machines with an over-ride function rather than let a pilot, soldier, cop, etc have the ability to challenge a directive or abort a mission due to some moral constraint. This expands into every facet of society - automated menu paths over the telephone, automobile stops, even banking transactions through ATMs and retail point of sale purchases.
The System that St. John described must have absolute control at all times...and computers and automation will effect that.
collector
22nd November 2014, 08:44 PM
Never head of St. John or the system that he referred to, would you have a link to that?
Have heard of this guy though;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kaczynski
crimethink
22nd November 2014, 10:03 PM
Never head of St. John or the system that he referred to, would you have a link to that?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Revelation
singular_me
23rd November 2014, 07:28 AM
on the surface it looks as if we are baked... but thinking that technology is the problem comes own to "guns are evil"... the current mindset (money making/profit/speculation) is at the very core of the issues. The day people understand that everything is a zero-sum game in the entire Universe, they will begin to see life differently and technology will become friendly instead of inimical to them. The NWO got us stuck in this impasse-mindset so well that now the plan is depopulation and/or totalitarian matrix.
It is all about changing the paradigm we are in. Technology pushes us toward the embrace of life of infinite creativity without materialistic concerns, but the global dumbing down education is the biggest obstacle as it has instilled this pervasive "love of money"... it will get worse before it gets better.
More knowledge, that we want it or not, will lead us back to square one... back to the Eden Tale... There is a reason as why the Tree of Knowledge is there. The snake in it incarnates the materialistic challenge corrupting free will and the illusion of duality.
I am sure that on some far distant planets, people living there have understood the stakes, and enjoying life with little problems. Earth is the "test planet" as all paradigms (fractals of the whole) are needed to make a world/universe go round.
Countless times now over the past several centuries we've been promised a "better life" through technology, but it's always come with great negatives. It's not only the New World Order that's lied about it.
As automation increases, more jobs will be deleted, and, eventually, more unemployable people will have to be "deleted."
crimethink
23rd November 2014, 09:35 AM
thinking that technology is the problem comes own to "guns are evil"
Nope.
How do you "manage" genetic engineering or nanotechnology? Such technologies strike at the very foundations of life, and, for the latter, everything, even inorganic, on Earth. Any small group can force their will upon the entire biosphere or planet. Some technologies are, indeed, the problem.
Whatever one thinks of his actions, Dr. Kaczynski's manifesto offers profound insights into existential problems with technology itself.
the current mindset (money making/profit/speculation) is at the very core of the issues.
For the most part, yes, but, there are others who are bent on merely having their way, even at the cost of their financial gain.
Technology pushes us toward the embrace of life of infinite creativity without materialistic concerns
This is technophilic nonsense. Technology has retarded creativity just as much as it has fostered it. And the latter is questionably valuable; for example, consider Ansel Adams' work vs. the Shopped bullshit that passes for "professional photography" now.
I am sure that on some far distant planets, people living there have understood the stakes, and enjoying life with little problems.
Pure assumption. You claim you're not a Trekkie, but this paradigm is right from the mind of Gene Roddenberry. "Live long and prosper."
singular_me
23rd November 2014, 10:12 AM
my answer to you is simple CT, the choice between evil and good is exponential to Knowledge, and absolutely N-O-T-H-I-N-G can change that... why do you think the NWO bandwagon regards itself as god? Because masses are simply ignorant about it.
each level of Knowledge has it own paradigm, and there is again absolutely NOTHING that can change that, its an absolute Natural Law.
I think humans who want to augment themselves is fine as long as they do NOT stay on earth, their paradigm is the the outer space which has it own dangers, threat of dying is brought back to their own level. The use of any nanotech means should be restricted to that group, with consent, as opposed to the agenda now in place. Maybe those people should have their own island where they can prepare for their travel with no return. Yes, sounds like scifi, but thats the only way to deal with the issue. It has to be voluntary.
since I believe the human species to be a genetic experiment to start with (many myths and religions speak about it in their own words) engineered by a previous advanced civilization or even possibly ETs , it has happened before. Mankind history is an another absolute joke in that sense.
technology a threat = current paradigm simply becoming obsolete
the real threat = monolithic belief systems as they completely lack flexibility.
Ponce
23rd November 2014, 10:12 AM
There is a different between "tecknology" to control the people, and take their jobs away, and inventions to improve their way of life......the only way to now improve our lives is to get rid of computers and to go back to the days of paper and pencil.
V
singular_me
23rd November 2014, 10:49 AM
yeah it makes no sense to me to use the internet and computers to vilify technology is ludicrous... people who think that way should become amish
what is happening is meant to happen... thinking we can stop the evolution of knowledge is a delusion, thats mainly why the threat has grown bigger over time. And because this aspect was neglected, now we are faced with the "technology is evil" motto... which is a paranoid projection resulting from the failure to understand the exponential nature of good an evil, well especially evil in this particular case
no ideology can fix this but learning the true sense of benevolence (at our own expenses)
There is a different between "tecknology" to control the people, and take their jobs away, and inventions to improve their way of life......the only way to now improve our lives is to get rid of computers and to go back to the days of paper and pencil.
V
mick silver
23rd November 2014, 03:40 PM
theres nothing wrong with being amish . if people would work half as hard as the amish do then there asses would not be the size of a house . I have a few amish fiends and they are welcome at my home and I am at theirs .if I need a hand they are there to help .
crimethink
23rd November 2014, 05:29 PM
the real threat = monolithic belief systems as they completely lack flexibility.
LOL - you remind me an 18-year old pimply-faced college kid who's taken a single Intro to Philosophy class given by a rabid atheist professor and now thinks they have an absolute grasp on all knowledge.
crimethink
23rd November 2014, 05:31 PM
There is a different between "tecknology" to control the people, and take their jobs away, and inventions to improve their way of life......the only way to now improve our lives is to get rid of computers and to go back to the days of paper and pencil.
Martin Heidegger, and many of his contemporaries (e.g., National Socialist philosophers) tackled human relationship with technology in Existentialism. The threshold is breached when technology controls man, not vice-versa. Supercomputing, genetic engineering, and nanotechnology breach that threshold.
Dr. Theodore Kaczynski also offered brilliant analysis in his manifesto.
crimethink
23rd November 2014, 05:33 PM
yeah it makes no sense to me to use the internet and computers to vilify technology is ludicrous... people who think that way should become amish
What's ludicrous is that people cannot discern the difference between using the Internet to better one's life, vs. the Internet used to worsen someone's life & liberty.
Communicating with distant family via Skype & email = Good
Monitoring everything you do from Ft. Meade = Bad
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