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Tumbleweed
22nd November 2014, 11:59 AM
​I think Paul Craig Roberts tells it pretty straight in this interview.

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/11/20/pcr-interviewed-russia-italy/


Interview with Paul Craig Roberts

I recently had the chance to interview Paul Craig Roberts. I remember briefly, for the uninitiated, that Dr. Roberts was a senior official of the US government, economic advisor to the President during the first term of Ronald Reagan. It is to him the creation of Reaganomics, the economic policy initiated by Reagan to revive the US economy, then stagnant. Dr. Roberts was also a member of a secret committee of control over the CIA, set up to verify the information provided by US intelligence on the continuation of the Cold War with the Soviet Union. He has still now a profound understanding of the mechanisms of power in Washington and he’s distinguished for his political analysis, often discordant compared with that of the official mainstream.
Costantino Ceoldo

CC – In one of your recent articles http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/11/03/presidential-crimes-now-paul-craig-roberts/ (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/11/03/presidential-crimes-now-paul-craig-roberts/) you said that there is an “establishment” within both the Republican Party and also the Democrats, voted to preserve the power and hostility to any independent and authoritative presidential figure. How is it that we have come now to a situation like this and it seems to have originated many decades ago?

Dr. Roberts – Government’s ability to tax, borrow, and print money gives government command over private resources. The beneficiaries of these resources can be, in certain circumstances the people. More often, the beneficiaries are the profits of private interests who are allied with government. As time passes these interests harden and become an Establishment. In the US the Establishment consists of the private interest groups–such as the financial sector, the military/security complex, the Israel Lobby, the extractive industries, and agribusiness–that write the laws that government enacts. The political party in-groups serve these interests in exchange for the large political campaign donations that elect the government. The two political parties in the US compete to be the whore of the private interest groups, because the majority party can do more favors and thus receive more benefits. When political outsiders, such as Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan, who can be tolerated as long as they are limited to governorships in States, seize the presidential nomination from the Establishment candidates and get elected, they jeopardize the establishment’s control. For example, when the Democratic Establishment realized that Franklin D. Roosevelt would not survive his 4th term, they forced out his popular vice president, Henry Wallace, and installed the non-entity and easily controlled Harry Truman. They were able to use Truman to create the very profitable Cold War, which kept the military/security complex in the money for years.


CC – Do you think it is correct to speak of the existence, at the political level, of a sort of “Power Point generation”? That is, a set of people in charge whose mental schemes are extremely simplified, linear and in cascade, thus devoid of a marked ability to lateral thinking, over that of honesty.

Dr. Roberts – I can’t answer for every country. In the US the present power consists of the neoconservatives. Their name is misleading. They are not conservatives. Their fathers came out of the Trotsky left. With the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, the neocons concluded that History had chosen the capitalists, not the workers, and that America was the “exceptional and indispensable” country whose right was to exercise hegemony over the world. This is akin to Trotsky’s theory of world revolution, but in behalf of American capital, not the workers. The pursuit of this policy has defined US foreign policy since the Clinton regime. The lives of millions of people have paid for the supremacy of American control.


CC – Can we therefore say that the current US foreign policy is the product of this generation “in limited thinking”? If so, in your opinion how much are the military leaders influenced?

Dr. Roberts – I do not think that the US is any longer capable of producing leaders. Government is simply something to be used by agendas. Military leaders benefit from mobilizations and war, as promotions are more rapid and officers retire at higher pensions. Once one reaches the rank of major or lieutenant general, private and Pentagon consulting opportunities abound as do military/security corporate directorships in the “defense” industry. The financial rewards make the generals complicit in the propaganda of ever present “threats,” whether “terrorist,” Muslim, Russian, or Chinese.


CC – Some people, here in Italy for example, believe that the current US policy is a consequence of the crisis of what they themselves call “American Empire”. Here the term “empire” is used in an exception other than that which it is generally attached to, but it still indicates a form of authoritarian and freedom-killer government. What is your opinion about this?

Dr. Roberts – Europeans are responsible for the American Empire. Europeans bought into the Cold War, with the vision of the Red Army overrunning Europe and raping all the women as they did in Germany, and assigned their defense and foreign policy to Washington. Europeans have not had an independent foreign policy since WW II. European countries are vassal states of the American Empire and take their orders from Washington. No European “leader” is independent of Washington’s control.


CC – I connect to the previous question and I would propose an analogy: the current social situation in the United States and, partially, in the Western world can be compared to that experienced by the old Roman Republic in its last times, with the murder of Caesar as a detonator of civil wars and catalyst of the break-up of the Roman Empire? How far we could go with this comparison?

Dr. Roberts – The American Republic was destroyed in the so-called Civil War. This war was about empire, not slavery. Lincoln himself declared that he would support slavery if it preserved the empire. As soon as the Union war criminals destroyed the South, they destroyed the Plains Indians, thus opening the West to exploitation by private interest groups.


CC – The recent mid-term elections have turned President Obama into the proverbial “lame duck.” How do you think the last two years of the Obama presidency will run?

Dr. Roberts – Lame-duck thinking is passed. Obama represents the Establishment just as will his replacement. The Republican attacks on Obama are nothing but the Republicans’ hopes that they will be the next whore for the private interest groups that rule America and that Republicans instead of Democrats will receive the rewards.


CC – In essence, what about the near future for Syria, Iran and Ukraine? Is Russia really the worst threat to humanity after Ebola?

Dr. Roberts – As all evidence shows, Russia has threatened no country. The Russian government is totally non-confrontational. Russia appeals endlessly to international law without effect. Washington’s position is that Washington, as the “exceptional country,” is above all law, both international and domestic. Washington wants to overthrow Syria because Syria is an independent Middle Eastern country not ruled by a Washington puppet. Ukraine historically is an integral part of Russia. By overthrowing the Ukrainian elected government and installing Washington’s puppets, Washington brings troubles to Russia. Like China, Russia is a constraint on Washington’s hegemony, and the destabilization of these constraints is the driving force of Washington’s foreign policy. Washington’s captive European puppet states accommodate Washington’s drive to war with Russia and China. The war will be nuclear and will terminate life on earth.


CC – Finally, in your opinion what should we expect from the next US President? Whether it’s Jeb Bush or Hillary Clinton or even a sudden outsider, what will change and what will not change in American politics?

Dr. Roberts – The only thing that can be expected from the next US president is more war, more murder, and more oppression of the gullible American people. People as uninformed and as gullible as Americans have no future.

Americans are a dead people that history is about to run over.


Interview conducted by Costantino Ceoldo

mick silver
22nd November 2014, 01:44 PM
so true so true it hurt to say so true

crimethink
22nd November 2014, 02:26 PM
Like the Roman Empire, the American Empire no longer has a "people" - it has a population.

old steel
22nd November 2014, 02:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CWmi2lTLsc

woodman
22nd November 2014, 03:25 PM
Great article. I concur with everything he said. I would just like to set the record straight; I have no fealty to the criminals in Washington nor the idiots who think they can influence the march of tyranny through voting. If one participates in this charade, they are guilty and complicit in the crimes that are committed in the name of America.

crimethink
22nd November 2014, 03:37 PM
Great article. I concur with everything he said. I would just like to set the record straight; I have no fealty to the criminals in Washington nor the idiots who think they can influence the march of tyranny through voting. If one participates in this charade, they are guilty and complicit in the crimes that are committed in the name of America.

Voting is consent.

Santa
22nd November 2014, 03:59 PM
Great article. I concur with everything he said. I would just like to set the record straight; I have no fealty to the criminals in Washington nor the idiots who think they can influence the march of tyranny through voting. If one participates in this charade, they are guilty and complicit in the crimes that are committed in the name of America.

I agree, though not voting (which is what I do) doesn't help in ending the march toward tyranny either.

crimethink
22nd November 2014, 04:12 PM
I agree, though not voting (which is what I do) doesn't help in ending the march toward tyranny either.

The System sure wants us all to vote for some reason. Motor Voter and all that. Must be an occult thing, related to consent. Not voting may not stop them, but it is both a moral statement ("I do not consent") and a political statement ("F**k You!").

"One word of Truth outweighs the whole world."

SWRichmond
22nd November 2014, 07:05 PM
I "vote", but not for their candidates. I write in who I really want. And i always vote NO on any bond issues.

crimethink
22nd November 2014, 07:22 PM
I "vote", but not for their candidates. I write in who I really want. And i always vote NO on any bond issues.

If you vote, you consent. Doesn't matter if you vote for Mickey Mouse, Ron Paul, or David Duke, by participating, you consent to their system.

Write your registrar of voters, tonight, and tell them you want to be de-registered.

Ponce
22nd November 2014, 08:40 PM
We have already lost our place in the world as #1 and will never be again......the US will end up as a mixed nationality of the whole world where all will be Mulatos, neither white or black.

V

crimethink
22nd November 2014, 09:04 PM
We have already lost our place in the world as #1 and will never be again......the US will end up as a mixed nationality of the whole world where all will be Mulatos, neither white or black.

V

Brazilification.

Hatha Sunahara
23rd November 2014, 12:27 AM
I have heard a number of complaints in the MSM that the latest election, earlier this month had only a 36% turnout rate--the lowest since 1944, when a war was consuming peoples' attention. So, for those of you who think that voting is consent, this might be an omen of an awakening that is going on--that more people are beginning to think that voting is just an endorsement of the status quo. Voting grants legitimacy to that which is illegitimate. I doubt however that an ever decreasing voter turnout will result in any changes to this corrupt system. It will take more than just abstinence from voting. It will take (as it did in the Soviet Union) an abstinence from consuming and working to support the system with productive effort. That will be much more difficult since it will involve some real personal sacrifice for principles. The real problem that Americans face is that the system will not allow the emergence of any independent leaders. It's taboo to talk publicly about changing the status quo. I'm very optimistic however that the system will collapse on its own because it is has surpassed the threshhold of sustainable corruption. The only thing holding it together is the loyalty of the corrupt participants. When the system can no longer reward them, their loyalty will evaporate, and POOF--it will all become a bsd dream from which we've awakened.


Hatha

Shami-Amourae
23rd November 2014, 01:01 AM
I have heard a number of complaints in the MSM that the latest election, earlier this month had only a 36% turnout rate--the lowest since 1944, when a war was consuming peoples' attention. So, for those of you who think that voting is consent, this might be an omen of an awakening that is going on--that more people are beginning to think that voting is just an endorsement of the status quo. Voting grants legitimacy to that which is illegitimate. I doubt however that an ever decreasing voter turnout will result in any changes to this corrupt system. It will take more than just abstinence from voting. It will take (as it did in the Soviet Union) an abstinence from consuming and working to support the system with productive effort. That will be much more difficult since it will involve some real personal sacrifice for principles. The real problem that Americans face is that the system will not allow the emergence of any independent leaders. It's taboo to talk publicly about changing the status quo. I'm very optimistic however that the system will collapse on its own because it is has surpassed the threshhold of sustainable corruption. The only thing holding it together is the loyalty of the corrupt participants. When the system can no longer reward them, their loyalty will evaporate, and POOF--it will all become a bsd dream from which we've awakened.


Hatha


Yeah but if it "collapses" the same assholes will come out from the ashes and start the same crap up again.
:(

midnight rambler
23rd November 2014, 01:06 AM
Yeah but if it "collapses" the same assholes will come out from the ashes and start the same crap up again.
:(

Not if folks become cognizant to who and what they are and...uh, neutralize* them.

*neutralize similar to how they neutralized Perot, i.e. deprive them of any power over others...e.g. tar and feathers would be one form of neutralizing the rats

Shami-Amourae
23rd November 2014, 01:09 AM
Not if folks become cognizant to who and what they are and...uh, neutralize* them.

*neutralize similar to how they neutralized Perot, i.e. deprive them of any power over others...e.g. tar and feathers would be one form of neutralizing the rats

I think it's important to point out the Jew and raise racial awareness for Whites. All other races have racial unity other than Whites. If we had it other races wouldn't be walking all over us like they do now.

Hillbilly
23rd November 2014, 02:00 AM
Poncefication.

Fixed it for you.

crimethink
23rd November 2014, 08:47 AM
So, for those of you who think that voting is consent, this might be an omen of an awakening that is going on--that more people are beginning to think that voting is just an endorsement of the status quo. Voting grants legitimacy to that which is illegitimate.


Trouble is, being actively registered is also consent. You play by their rules, you are bound by their rules.

You are reading way too much into low participation at the ballot box. Most people just don't care.




I doubt however that an ever decreasing voter turnout will result in any changes to this corrupt system. It will take more than just abstinence from voting. It will take (as it did in the Soviet Union) an abstinence from consuming and working to support the system with productive effort. That will be much more difficult since it will involve some real personal sacrifice for principles.


It's not coming.

People make grave error looking at the Soviet Union, and making bold assumptions about why it "collapsed." The Soviet Union was concocted by New York, City of London, and Frankfurt banksters, and continued to be managed throughout the "Cold War" by those banksters. Once it had served its purpose - as the antithesis to the "Capitalist West" - they simply "turned off" the Soviet Union. The synthesis had been achieved.

Orwell's projection of the future is going to be factual: "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." The "forever" will be until He returns. People will go along merely to survive, in most cases, or to benefit well, in some cases.




The real problem that Americans face is that the system will not allow the emergence of any independent leaders. It's taboo to talk publicly about changing the status quo.


Everyone needs to face the facts: most people don't give a shit.

If massive numbers of people actually cared, they would flock by the hundreds of thousands to places like GSUS. This forum would have tens of times as many members - active members.




I'm very optimistic however that the system will collapse on its own because it is has surpassed the threshhold of sustainable corruption.


Your position is based on the fake "collapse of the Soviet Union" model, which didn't really happen as claimed.




The only thing holding it together is the loyalty of the corrupt participants. When the system can no longer reward them, their loyalty will evaporate, and POOF--it will all become a bsd dream from which we've awakened.


This reward system can continue long after you and I are dead. Every time we think it might go down, it doesn't. It will take supernatural means to get rid of. Thank God that has been promised very clearly.

crimethink
23rd November 2014, 08:51 AM
I think it's important to point out the Jew and raise racial awareness for Whites. All other races have racial unity other than Whites. If we had it other races wouldn't be walking all over us like they do now.

I admire your passionate optimism. Your last statement is absolutely correct. But, that is never to be. The Aryan race has surrendered.

Hatha Sunahara
23rd November 2014, 08:56 AM
Not if folks become cognizant to who and what they are and...uh, neutralize* them.

*neutralize similar to how they neutralized Perot, i.e. deprive them of any power over others...e.g. tar and feathers would be one form of neutralizing the rats

If TPTB are removed from power by a collapse in which large numbers of people suffer, there will be an incentive among the masses to identify who caused the collapse and exclude those people from any position of power. The big problem that can derail such an accountability will be the collective forgetfulness of what real leadership is. If people can be convinced that only the current rulers have leadership abilities, then they will return to power. The real issue is WHo's going to lead people after the collapse?

Hatha

Ponce
23rd November 2014, 09:03 AM
Cebu......if you voted you have no reason to complain because it was YOUR choice......I in the other hand did not vote because I know now that all electiontions are fixed elections.........when the people start to vote with their guns intead of their words will be the only way to fix the government.

V

Shami-Amourae
23rd November 2014, 09:33 AM
I admire your passionate optimism. Your last statement is absolutely correct. But, that is never to be. The Aryan race has surrendered.

Really? I think that's a bit ridiculous. A majority of White people are still clueless and in the dark. I know a lot of people who are White who are becoming racially awake. I'm in the adult industry and know a huge variety of people from around the world. I know people who were 2 years ago Libertarians and now racially awake Nationalists. I'm finding more and more of my friends from around the world, especially countries like France are Jew-wise and call Blacks Niggers and know the agenda is to wipe out Whites. Hell I have people who I know were uber-Leftist Traps (shemales) and those NO H8 'tards now becoming racially awake and sounding like some of us. One of the hot fetishes where a Right-Winger White (Fascist/Nazi) person is dominant and you have the "Communist Slut". In Europe a Right-Wing White person is viewed as an Alpha Male/Female and people salivate for people like that since it's considered so rare. Hitler is viewed unofficially as a badass and an idol. To be the rebel to day is be a Right-Winger and/or Nationalist, so it attracts more people than you realize but most are silent about it currently. This is starting to change slowly though as more and more people come out of the closest about it.

Listen. America is a big fucking place so people can White flight to more places. A majority of the people who live where I live in Idaho are White Flighting from other areas, and I'm slowly seeing Diversity imports from government programs here and there. One of the most common questions I get from native Idahoans is where I'm from originally. I think it will probably take another 20 years till Nationalism becomes mainstream, but it may happen faster since it's probably going to happen in Europe first, then it may come over here.

If you go to places like France its a sea of mud everywhere. Nationalism is exploding there since White people are forced to see what's going on. A majority of White people in America live in isolated communities away from "Diversity". On top of that a large majority are "Christians", and when they go to church they are taught that everyone is equal and that the Jew is greater that Christ Jesus.

Jews can operate with only 0.02% population. Whites are still a huge chunk of the population, even if we will be a minority in a few years, and our birthrates are declining. I have always viewed Whites as very gullible/weak when in large numbers, but when they are in small numbers and their backs are pressed back to the wall, they will act. You're having a very defeatist attitude, which is exactly what the Jew wants since they want to pick us all off one by one.

There's a lot you can do right now. You're a Christian. You should focus on other Christians and expose how Jews are NOT above Jesus like the typical 501c3 "Christian" church teaches. White people know something is wrong, but have been told the wrong things are the problem:

Example: "It's the Democrats and their Socialist Muslim Agenda!"

You can post on other forums, in news article comment sections, YouTube, wherever. Just keep saying it. Keep repeating it. It will sink in eventually. Humans only change their opinions generally when exposed to repeated propaganda. Rarely do people change when you put logic and reason in front of them. Hitler was successful since he used repeated propaganda to wake people up (good propaganda), and look how fast things turned around.

Look at slogans like "Diversity = White Genocide". You can put that up, and the TPTB will come out against it and say it's hate. Most gullible Whites will believe that at first, but some younger more rebellious and intelligent people will be open minded and look into it (how I awoke to this stuff), then they start saying that. Eventually the White population can and will turn around.

The most important thing is to not give up. These things are always worse before they become better. I'm not giving up. I'm not giving up even if I'm the last White person left on the Earth.

old steel
23rd November 2014, 12:18 PM
If TPTB are removed from power by a collapse in which large numbers of people suffer, there will be an incentive among the masses to identify who caused the collapse and exclude those people from any position of power. The big problem that can derail such an accountability will be the collective forgetfulness of what real leadership is. If people can be convinced that only the current rulers have leadership abilities, then they will return to power. The real issue is WHo's going to lead people after the collapse?

Hatha

I'll lead them if you will be my right hand man, Hatha.

crimethink
23rd November 2014, 04:21 PM
The real issue is WHo's going to lead people after the collapse?

The same cult that "leads" us now, only different names and faces.

The masses are asses, and don't think or remember beyond today or tomorrow.

Shami-Amourae
23rd November 2014, 04:40 PM
The same cult that "leads" us now, only different names and faces.

The masses are asses, and don't think or remember beyond today or tomorrow.

Whites were strong and untouchable when we were racially awake. Now we are racially asleep and getting screwed since of it.

Wake up other Whites racially. That is the one thing you can do to fight the System.

crimethink
23rd November 2014, 04:43 PM
Whites were strong and untouchable when we were racially awake. Now we are racially asleep and getting screwed since of it.

Wake up other Whites racially. That is the one thing you can do to fight the System.

It's getting harder & harder each day, and soon, next to impossible. 99 out of 100 Whites have some family member who is mixed-race or outright non-White, and they will stand by them. And about 1 out 100 of that remaining one from the first group will be meaningfully receptive of racial awareness.

If you find someone who is Jew-wise, they're often Nigger or Spic lovers. If someone despises the Niggers & Spics, they usually think Jews are "god's chosen people."

If it weren't for the Internet, I would stand totally alone, apart from my family.

Shami-Amourae
23rd November 2014, 04:59 PM
It's getting harder & harder each day, and soon, next to impossible. 99 out of 100 Whites have some family member who is mixed-race or outright non-White, and they will stand by them. And about 1 out 100 of that remaining one from the first group will be meaningfully receptive of racial awareness.

If you find someone who is Jew-wise, they're often Nigger or Spic lovers. If someone despises the Niggers & Spics, they usually think Jews are "god's chosen people."

If it weren't for the Internet, I would stand totally alone, apart from my family.

I don't think Youths or Mestizos are our real enemy. They are being used like we are, and will be turned on in the future. Actually I think Youths are currently being setup and will be turned on with all the things going on. Mestizos hate Youths and will steal their pedestal. Behind every Youth public figure you'll find a Jew. If it weren't for the Jew propping them up they wouldn't amount to any real threat I don't think. In a sane society we wouldn't have a welfare system that rewarded people who come here illegally (Mestizos), and/or don't attempt to work (Youths.)

Shami-Amourae
23rd November 2014, 05:13 PM
New interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kokom5MeH8o

Hatha Sunahara
23rd November 2014, 06:19 PM
I'll lead them if you will be my right hand man, Hatha.

I would only consider it if the job lasted 90 days or less. The first thing I woud advise is to prosecute the principals in the TBTF banks under common law courts. I would press for the death penalty for any fraud conviction. Also, siezure of 100% of assets for any fraud conviction. I would then reinstate the glass-steagal Act, and the Possse Commitatus, and repeal the Federal Reserve Act. The government would create its own money without paying interest for it. Anyone who 'grants credit' would have to have a federal license to do so. This job would be 'post-collapse', so, to avoid a repeat of 1933, I would repudiate the 'national debt' as being 'odious debt'. I would insist that all the banks that had derivatives would have to sell them--and if they couldn't, they would be invited to declare barkruptcy. I would also have the government guarantee savings accounts in the amounts of the FDIC guarantees. The government could create the money it needs without paying interest on it. I would then advise programs to get the government out of peoples lives. Dismantling the police state, dismantling the Federal education bureaucracy, dismantling, the imperial foreign policy, Adopting policies that exclude neocons fom holding any government office, Adopting a foreign policy that benefits Americans not Israelis. Setting up a war crimes tribunal for politicians who waged or voted for aggressive war , including the war of terror on the American people. I would open up a new investigation into 911--and liberally apply the death penalty to those who are guilty--putting the guillotines on military bases to good use. I would dismantle all Federal programs that influence education, and get legislation passed that breaks up the mainstream media monopoly. I would ban electronic voting--all voting would have to be auditable. I would get the government out of the Insurance and health care businesses.

Granted, it would take more than 90 days to get all this accomplished, but in the first 90 days it could all be initiated so that people could see where it was all headed. That would assure widespread support, while disposing of all the power of the opposition. The initiatives I outlined above were off the top of my head, although the most important. There would be much much more--like restoration of PMs to back up the currency, and an official govrernment policy to discourage people from going into debt, but supporting them if they save money and pay for stuff in cash. All corporations would have a 'charter expiration date' at which time they would need to apply for renewal with the Federal government.

If you can get behind that agenda, and more from where it came from, I'd be happy to be your right hand man but just for 90 days. I'm not looking for a career--just some change people can live with--none of that Obama crap that's all a pack of lies and fraud.


Hatha

mick silver
23rd November 2014, 06:41 PM
hatha can I be the hangman , also I am good at being a body guard done that for a few years for some high rollers

crimethink
24th November 2014, 01:22 AM
Really? I think that's a bit ridiculous. A majority of White people are still clueless and in the dark.


As I said in my other post:


99 out of 100 Whites have some family member who is mixed-race or outright non-White, and they will stand by them.

The fact they've been in the dark all along has allowed them to make irreversible mistakes...like breeding with them, or, allowing their children & grandchildren to breed with them.




Listen. America is a big fucking place so people can White flight to more places. A majority of the people who live where I live in Idaho are White Flighting from other areas, and I'm slowly seeing Diversity imports from government programs here and there. One of the most common questions I get from native Idahoans is where I'm from originally. I think it will probably take another 20 years till Nationalism becomes mainstream, but it may happen faster since it's probably going to happen in Europe first, then it may come over here.


20 years?

Demographics.

To think we have 20 years is blatantly ignoring that.

Four events/trends in the 20th Century doomed the White race demographically:

1) World War I
2) World War II
3) The Birth Control Pill
4) Abortion on Demand

The first first two annihilated millions of the highest-quality White men, and lesser numbers of White women. Every one of them would have an average of three to four high-quality children, and then, each of those children two to three (more) of their own.

Pat Buchanan has, rightly, called the Birth Control Pill the "Suicide Pill of the West." Whites chose pleasure & convenience over their racial future (not that they even had a grasp on racial identity).

And, despite the myth that Abortion on Demand eliminates more Blacks than Whites, it must be considered that Niggers shit out offspring as financial planning, while prospective White parents "get rid" of their White children through abortion as financial planning.

The White race in America is down tens of millions of individuals, and worldwide, hundreds of millions, from these four things.

Look at today's youth. In two decades, they will be young to middle-aged adults. America's youth are overwhelming non-White or mixed-race (many if not most of the latter counted as "White"). We will see a very rapid shift as the Boomers die off, and the Millennials come of age.

And, don't take the Federal regime's census data on faith. I, for one, do not believe the "White" category, allegedly 77.7% of America, is anywhere near accurate. I've seen countless "Whites" who are nothing of the sort. And, again, remember that a large portion, probably a majority, are over 50, or older.



You're having a very defeatist attitude, which is exactly what the Jew wants since they want to pick us all off one by one.


I have a realistic attitude. Steiner is not coming to save us, Mein Führer. Someone has to say it, and accept the wrath. I'm willing.




There's a lot you can do right now. You're a Christian. You should focus on other Christians and expose how Jews are NOT above Jesus like the typical 501c3 "Christian" church teaches.


Jesus always told His people that we would be a tiny minority. Most "Christians" are go-along-to-get-along types. They go to "church" for social reasons, not spiritual ones. They don't want controversy, and only want to be told what they want to hear. 99 out of 100 of them will walk away smiling (internally laughing at you) or even in disgust if you tell them the opposite of what their preacher has told them. "Curse them that curse thee" (Jews) and Romans 13 (must obey the government) perverted bullshit.




You can post on other forums, in news article comment sections, YouTube, wherever. Just keep saying it. Keep repeating it. It will sink in eventually.


That's blind faith.




Humans only change their opinions generally when exposed to repeated propaganda.


Look at the imbeciles in Ferguson who have been protesting on behalf of the dead thug who get their faces smashed in by the Niggers, who continue to believe in "diversity is our strength." THAT is what we are fighting & arguing against! Mere words are insufficient. Perhaps repeated beatings, rapes (for both women & men), and other assorted horrors might change the White mindset about Niggers, but who knows.




Rarely do people change when you put logic and reason in front of them. Hitler was successful since he used repeated propaganda to wake people up (good propaganda), and look how fast things turned around.


A tired & hungry people believed him to be sincere, because he was. It wasn't just propaganda that won them over; he offered them credible hope. The Jews and their fellow travelers have caught on to that "trick," and parade fakes like Ron & Rand Paul out endlessly for the boobs to keep extending their hope in them. Some see through them, but most do not.




Look at slogans like "Diversity = White Genocide". You can put that up, and the TPTB will come out against it and say it's hate. Most gullible Whites will believe that at first, but some younger more rebellious and intelligent people will be open minded and look into it (how I awoke to this stuff), then they start saying that. Eventually the White population can and will turn around.


The White population of how many?

And with what weapons?




The most important thing is to not give up. These things are always worse before they become better. I'm not giving up. I'm not giving up even if I'm the last White person left on the Earth.

You won't be alone on Earth, unless I die first. :)

There are three options at this point:

1) Fight, both figuratively & literally.
2) Surrender, and go along with it.
3) Get out of the way.

I've been at the first one since I was 17. I've seen absolutely no gains. Look at the collapse of the National Alliance. It was the premiere hope for progress. When Dr. Pierce died, it was over. The successor was beyond a sick joke. Nothing compares to Dr. Pierce's Alliance, anywhere on Earth.

Direct action isn't effective, since the System has massive resources to throw at you. You can "take out" a few individuals, and then you no longer have tactical freedom.

And, let's say, by some miracle, the Butler-Covington Plan came together, and Whites gained power in the Northwest Republic. The Federal regime and the Jews worldwide would simply just watch it happen? Even if you could gain control of the 341st at Malmstrom, they'd bury you by any means necessary, including turning Montana into Fukushima Prefecture.

Surrender, literally? Unthinkable. Yuck.

Or, get out of the way. I gave up countless career opportunities in the last 20 years "for the struggle," and, for my family. Had I stayed in the cities, I would be very, very comfortable financially, with guaranteed gravy train for life.

Instead, we decided to get out of the way of the Nightmare unfolding.

Sadly, though, there are less & less options to remain out of the way. The Rot is coming to even where you are.

At this point, all one can realistically hope for is to remain "out of the way" as much as possible, hopefully for the remainder of one's life.

crimethink
24th November 2014, 01:29 AM
Steiner is not coming to save us, Mein Führer.

The infamous scene from Der Untergang (The Downfall) illustrates the effective end of Germany, World War II, and with it, the effective End of the White Race.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Detachment_Steiner


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpZQ3K2L4iY

The scene with the real dialogue captioned.

Jewboo
2nd January 2017, 07:42 AM
http://thesaker.is/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/3-1.jpg

Joshua01
2nd January 2017, 07:55 AM
The infamous scene from Der Untergang (The Downfall) illustrates the effective end of Germany, World War II, and with it, the effective End of the White Race.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Detachment_Steiner


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpZQ3K2L4iY

The scene with the real dialogue captioned.
I wouldn't count us out just yet

Horn
2nd January 2017, 04:41 PM
It could get worse before it gets any better.

After the Roman Empire came the Holy Roman Empire.

Atocha
2nd January 2017, 05:27 PM
The infamous scene from Der Untergang (The Downfall) illustrates the effective end of Germany, World War II, and with it, the effective End of the White Race.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Detachment_Steiner


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpZQ3K2L4iY

The scene with the real dialogue captioned.

Thanks Crimethink. Powerful words. I never knew the real ones until now. Again, thanks.

Atocha
2nd January 2017, 06:51 PM
http://thesaker.is/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/3-1.jpg

Ha. Ha. Obama looks like he is wearing a skirt...

Jewboo
2nd January 2017, 06:55 PM
Look at the collapse of the National Alliance. It was the premiere hope for progress. When Dr. Pierce died, it was over.



It was over in 1945 when the jews won WW2.

Stop Making Cents
2nd January 2017, 08:36 PM
It is true that they count ragheads, dotheads and probably a lot of beaners as "white" in the census.

In actuality, whites are lucky to be about 50% of the population at this point.

Reasons for optimism:

Southern states have shown that as whites become less and less of the percentage of the population, the more they become racialized and vote as a block. Will the same thing happen as the rest of the USA becomes less white? Presumably but only time will tell.

The election of Trump avoided certain death of white America. Hillary's policies would have opened the flood gates and been open season on whites. Trump's election has saved us - temporarily - the real question is whether trump will turn the tide with mass deportations and ending non-white immigration. Unlikely, but it has bought us time and given us some hope, whereas Hillary's election would have been a certain death blow to white americans.

Europe seems to be turning to nationalism. But again, will that mean mass deportations, or just a temporary reprieve from the genocide?

The only solution I believe is to start anew in a new land just as our ancestors fled oppression and misery, our people must do the same and establish a white haven. But where?

Joshua01
3rd January 2017, 05:30 AM
It is true that they count ragheads, dotheads and probably a lot of beaners as "white" in the census.

In actuality, whites are lucky to be about 50% of the population at this point.

Reasons for optimism:

Southern states have shown that as whites become less and less of the percentage of the population, the more they become racialized and vote as a block. Will the same thing happen as the rest of the USA becomes less white? Presumably but only time will tell.

The election of Trump avoided certain death of white America. Hillary's policies would have opened the flood gates and been open season on whites. Trump's election has saved us - temporarily - the real question is whether trump will turn the tide with mass deportations and ending non-white immigration. Unlikely, but it has bought us time and given us some hope, whereas Hillary's election would have been a certain death blow to white americans.

Europe seems to be turning to nationalism. But again, will that mean mass deportations, or just a temporary reprieve from the genocide?

The only solution I believe is to start anew in a new land just as our ancestors fled oppression and misery, our people must do the same and establish a white haven. But where?
Why should we look for a new home? Simply drive out the invaders from our lands. God knows we're ready mentally and are armed to the teeth.

crimethink
3rd January 2017, 11:12 AM
we're ready mentally

That's the problem: we're not.

If the White race was mentally prepared to defend itself, the Problem would have already been solved.

Joshua01
3rd January 2017, 01:35 PM
That's the problem: we're not.

If the White race was mentally prepared to defend itself, the Problem would have already been solved.
Fred, the white people worth saving are indeed prepared. You are, I am and I suspect most people here are. There are thousands of forums like this one in the counrty with millions of white epople who see what we see and are smart enough to plan accordingly. The white people you speak of are leftist Marxist wussified trash and will deserve the fate they receive. We can't save them all man!

Neuro
7th January 2017, 03:30 AM
Fred, the white people worth saving are indeed prepared. You are, I am and I suspect most people here are. There are thousands of forums like this one in the counrty with millions of white epople who see what we see and are smart enough to plan accordingly. The white people you speak of are leftist Marxist wussified trash and will deserve the fate they receive. We can't save them all man!

Apart from the fact there aren't 1000's of forums like this, and this one has <20 active members, who can't even agree to disagree amicably amongst ourselves, even though we are mostly in agreement with re to essentials...

We are totally fucked. We really need outside intervention saving humanity, as I don't think we are competent any longer to engineer a +90% extinction event, to weed out the dumbfucks and deadmeats from the gene cesspool!

Joshua01
7th January 2017, 05:54 AM
Apart from the fact there aren't 1000's of forums like this, and this one has <20 active members, who can't even agree to disagree amicably amongst ourselves, even though we are mostly in agreement with re to essentials...

We are totally fucked. We really need outside intervention saving humanity, as I don't think we are competent any longer to engineer a +90% extinction event, to weed out the dumbfucks and deadmeats from the gene cesspool!
Actually, you're making my point. Yeah, there are 1000s of forum with many more members than this one who show a much higher degree of intelligence than our fine city dwellers

Neuro
7th January 2017, 05:57 AM
Actually, you're making my point. Yeah, there are 1000s of forum with many more members than this one who show a much higher degree of intelligence than our fine city dwellers

Really? Links?