Scientists probe mysterious barrier blocking 'killer electrons'

[crimethink]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2850566/Earth-protected-Star-Trek-style-invisible-shield-Scientists-probe-mysterious-barrier-blocking-killer-electrons.html

[Glass]

I'm kinda struggling for words to cover what needs to be expressed. palani's going on about backwards space station time. he might be right. I feel like im in some kind of time backwards or retard world.

So no moon landing then?

[singular_me]

They were discovered in 1958 and are comprised of an inner and outer belt extending up to 25,000 miles (40,000km) above Earth's surface.

surprising that it only makes the headlines now, I have been aware of this for about at least 10 years and my data back then was not that recent either.


Earth is being protected by a 'Star Trek-style invisible shield'....

but thanks for bringing up the energy vortex and two doughnut-shaped (double torus) in the same time... the star trek model in technology is definitely what needs to be looked into. Nothing new age in here. "Thrive" points this out.

[Horn]

So no moon landing then?

Everything's a killer, even butter.


The team originally thought the highly charged electrons, which are looping around Earth at more than 100,000 miles per second, would slowly drift downward into the upper atmosphere.



The above is known as the "Blood Sweat and Tears" theory of everything including painted ponies.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK62tfoCmuQ

[Neuro]

I'm kinda struggling for words to cover what needs to be expressed. palani's going on about backwards space station time. he might be right. I feel like im in some kind of time backwards or retard world.

So no moon landing then?
I don't know. Electrons don't tend to penetrate that well, but high energy electrons colliding with other matter creates x- and gamma-rays which penetrates the lunar lander walls like a hot knife through butter...

[Horn]

http://plasmasphere.nasa.gov/images/plasmasphere1.gif

A Common Misconception


One such result is that the plasmapshere's corotation lags behind Earth's. Even though the plasmasphere surrounds the Earth, data from a recent NASA satellite, IMAGE, has shown that the plasmasphere DOES NOT corotate with the Earth. Although times vary, the plasmasphere takes 27 hours on average to do a full rotation. It takes Earth 24 hours to do a full rotation. So, the Earth actually spins faster than the plasmasphere on average.
See the plasmasphere rebuilding. (http://plasmasphere.nasa.gov/videos/plasma_vid.mpg)

Killer flames here.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUz1ZaIHvDs

[Horn]

Pop Rock version


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzwGzJm41_o

[crimethink]

"They were discovered in 1958 and are comprised of an inner and outer belt extending up to 25,000 miles (40,000km) above Earth's surface"....surprising that it only makes the headlines now

1958 refers to the Van Allen Belts themselves, not the "shield."

[crimethink]

So no moon landing then?

Their "explanation":

http://www.popsci.com/blog-network/vintage-space/apollo-rocketed-through-van-allen-belts

[Serpo]

The chances that we can even live here are astronomical , not to mention that we have a protective layer sure helps.

[7th trump]

Electrons huh?

Electrons are not photons and therefore matter exists in space.
Space might be a vacuum but apparently this article says the vacuum of "space" has matter.

Seems maybe this article is full of shit or we've been lied to about what "space" is!

[crimethink]

The chances that we can even live here are astronomical , not to mention that we have a protective layer sure helps.

All by Design, not "random chance."

[palani]

Electrons huh?

Electrons are not photons and therefore matter exists in space.
Space might be a vacuum but apparently this article says the vacuum of "space" has matter.

Seems maybe this article is full of shit or we've been lied to about what "space" is!

You have been lied to about what land is as well.

Space is a volume ... as exists within a vacuum tube. The hot filament in that tube permits a cloud of electrons to escape the tungsten filament and they form around that filament. A cold plate provides a path that only allows electrons to move in one direction ... toward the plate (rectifier). If a large DC voltage is applied to the plate with respect to the filament these electrons can now be accelerated toward the plate. To control how many and how fast a control grid is established between the plate and the filament. A small negative voltage with respect to the filament will repel those electrons (triode). Adding another grid between the control grid and the plate reduces the capacitance and permits operation at higher frequencies ( tetrode ). Another grid is added to collect electrons that strike the plate and bounce off ( pentode ).

And there you have the mystery solved of how electrons act in a vacuum.

[Neuro]

Electrons huh?

Electrons are not photons and therefore matter exists in space.
Space might be a vacuum but apparently this article says the vacuum of "space" has matter.

Seems maybe this article is full of shit or we've been lied to about what "space" is!

There are no absolute vacuums. Space is full of shit, just way more spread out than in you...

[7th trump]

You have been lied to about what land is as well.

Space is a volume ... as exists within a vacuum tube. The hot filament in that tube permits a cloud of electrons to escape the tungsten filament and they form around that filament. A cold plate provides a path that only allows electrons to move in one direction ... toward the plate (rectifier). If a large DC voltage is applied to the plate with respect to the filament these electrons can now be accelerated toward the plate. To control how many and how fast a control grid is established between the plate and the filament. A small negative voltage with respect to the filament will repel those electrons (triode). Adding another grid between the control grid and the plate reduces the capacitance and permits operation at higher frequencies ( tetrode ). Another grid is added to collect electrons that strike the plate and bounce off ( pentode ).

And there you have the mystery solved of how electrons act in a vacuum.

Well thank you for explaining roughly how an old tv vacuum works, but space doesn't have filaments or plates.
The flaw here, and which you did not grasp, is that space doesn't have a filament for electrons to collect or flow on. Space we were taught is nothing...theres nothing there. No gas to fill in the void of space.
Electrons if you haven't already forgotten in your old age, form the valence layers around the nuclei of an atom. Take for instance gold...gold is the best conductor because it has the most valence electrons and there for when a voltage is present these free valence electrons are easily pushed from one atom to the next atom producing electrical current. And also, electrons are negative charged...not positive charged as 99.9% of people believe.
My point was palani if "space" is nothing then electrons will not flow or be there in the first place. Electrons do not fall off atoms like water pouring out of a bowl and pooling on the floor.
Either space is a vacuum consisting of "nothing" or it has substance in order for these killer electrons to be there in the first place. Or this article is complete bullshit.
I'm betting on the article being complete bullshit because electrons are attracted to positive protons! Where you find protons and electrons you'll find substance (matter) and not a "vacuum" of space.
Something has to be in "space" in order for this article to make sense.....what is it?

[7th trump]

There are no absolute vacuums. Space is full of shit, just way more spread out than in you...

I agree space is full of shit and shit can exist in a vacuum. Hence the experiment of the hammer and the feather falling exactly the same speed in the vacuum.

[palani]

Well thank you for explaining roughly how an old tv vacuum works, but space doesn't have filaments or plates.
Space is what is WITHIN a vacuum tube.



The flaw here, and which you did not grasp, is that space doesn't have a filament for electrons to collect or flow on. Planets and asteroids may be substituted for the elements you THINK you are aware of.


Space we were taught is nothing...theres nothing there. Same with LAND. LAND is a volume. Space. Nothing.


No gas to fill in the void of space. Planets though. Even the sun. Substitute the sun for a filament.


"space" is nothing then electrons will not flow or be there in the first place. Electrons do not fall off atoms like water pouring out of a bowl and pooling on the floor. Electrons don't flow from a filament either until something is used to heat it.


Either space is a vacuum consisting of "nothing" or it has substance in order for these killer electrons to be there in the first place. Or this article is complete bullshit. Another choice? Your limited imagination prevents you from fully investigating this topic.


I'm betting on the article being complete bullshit because electrons are attracted to positive protons! Where you find protons and electrons you'll find substance (matter) and not a "vacuum" of space. I propose we send you out on a journey of exploration.


Something has to be in "space" in order for this article to make sense.....what is it? It is called ELECTRONS.

[7th trump]

Space is what is WITHIN a vacuum tube.


Planets and asteroids may be substituted for the elements you THINK you are aware of.

Same with LAND. LAND is a volume. Space. Nothing.

Planets though. Even the sun. Substitute the sun for a filament.

Electrons don't flow from a filament either until something is used to heat it.

Another choice? Your limited imagination prevents you from fully investigating this topic.

I propose we send you out on a journey of exploration.

It is called ELECTRONS.

A lot of deflection and gibberish that's not based on facts or evidence.
In other words palani is saving face from basing his observations on assumptions.

Negative lectrons are attracted to positive protons......they just don't fall off atoms and pool up. Current flow is proof positive of this law.
Current flow consists of electrons being pushed (voltage) from atom to the next. Electrons don't fall on the ground after being pushed off one atom. They are attracted to the next atoms outer valence orbit.
If you don't think so palani then explain why electricity arcs from a positive to the negative?
You don't see the arc just pouring out onto the floor do you?
No, you don't see arcs pouring onto the floor, so something (matter) has to be in space for the killer electrons to be attracted to that location.
The best you got are radio waves but then again radio waves are nothing but voltage (pressure) wave forms really no different in theory than a wave you see in water.

[palani]

explain why electricity arcs from a positive to the negative
It doesn't. It always jumps from the negative to the positive.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/PlanePair2.jpg

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[Neuro]

The electrons are there because earths magnetic field directed them there... Nothing mysterious about that!

[mick silver]

you guys are so deep inside the matrix you will never see the light of day

[7th trump]

The electrons are there because earths magnetic field directed them there... Nothing mysterious about that!

You have no proof they are there.
Let me guess you believe they are there because someone told you?
I bet you've never experienced "space" either but your brilliance of discernment somehow now is not in the equation?

I just get a kick out you turning on discernment and then turning it off when ever you feel like it....you know when ever suits you.

[JohnQPublic]

Electrons huh?

Electrons are not photons and therefore matter exists in space.
Space might be a vacuum but apparently this article says the vacuum of "space" has matter.

Seems maybe this article is full of shit or we've been lied to about what "space" is!

Electrons are not considered baryonic matter, so they are not considered ordinary matter.

Photons are treated as a particle under some circumstances and a wave in others (an indication that we do not yet understand them completely).

We really have very little idea what space is, and what is in it.


http://youtu.be/6XUUm6kk4t0

[7th trump]

Electrons are not considered baryonic matter, so they are not considered ordinary matter.

Photons are treated as a particle under some circumstances and a wave in others (an indication that we do not yet understand them completely).

We really have very little idea what space is, and what is in it.


http://youtu.be/6XUUm6kk4t0

Yes, correct, however electrons are considered leptons.

A lepton is an elementary, spin 1⁄2 particle that does not undergo strong interactions, but is subject to the Pauli exclusion principle.[1] The best known of all leptons is the electron, which governs nearly all of chemistry as it is found in atoms and is directly tied to all chemical properties. Two main classes of leptons exist: charged leptons (also known as the electron-like leptons), and neutral leptons (better known as neutrinos). Charged leptons can combine with other particles to form various composite particles such as atoms and positronium, while neutrinos rarely interact with anything, and are consequently rarely observed.