Best source for elecrolytes?

[Libertytree]

I know I can do a net search but I trust yaw'll so much more.

[Serpo]

Celtic sea salt with water..............

[Libertytree]

Celtic sea salt with water..............

Seems very promising! Thanks

[crimethink]

I know I can do a net search but I trust yaw'll so much more.

#1) Food.
#2) Whole salt. This includes genuine evaporative sea salt (including ancient), such as Himalayan, Celtic sea (from France), or Real Salt brand.

http://www.alohabay.com/products/tablesalt/table_salt.html (from Pakistan, marketed by a company personally known to my family)

http://www.celticseasalt.com/

http://www.realsalt.com/ (from Utah ancient sea salt)

You must trust the supplier. Some companies advertise something as "sea salt," but it's polluted crap. Morton sources/ed their "sea salt" from South San Francisco Bay, which is loaded with industrial waste from various Silicon Valley corporations and NAS Moffett Field*. They also add cyanide (Yellow Prussiate of Soda, aka Sodium Ferrocyanide Decahydrate as an "anti-caking agent").

Most of our salt is Real Salt brand.


* go to this link, and notice Moffett Field (now "Moffett Federal Airfield) is just to the west of "Salt Pond A8" - guess where Morton extracted from?

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Moffett+Federal+Airfield/@37.412874,-122.053738,13z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0xf8553f3edfba9691

[aeondaze]

Celtic sea salt with water..............

Thats fine if you only want Cl- (edit: I meant to say Na+)

A full compliment of electrolytes includes Mg2+, Ca2+ and K-.

Potassium ions can be found in bananas, calcium from dairy and magnesium from leafy greens and nuts.

Or you can use Moretons Lite salt (50% Na and 50% K) and Epsom salts (MgSO4) to get magnesium.

[crimethink]

Thats fine if you only want Cl-.

A full compliment of electrolytes includes Mg2+, Ca2+ and K-.

Potassium ions can be found in bananas, calcium from dairy and magnesium from leafy greens and nuts.


Evaporative sea salt contains the same minerals in human blood, including Mg & K.




Or you can use Moretons Lite salt (50% Na and 50% K) and Epsom salts (MgSO4) to get magnesium.

Both industrial products, and while Morton's Lite doesn't have the "yummy" Sodium Ferrocyanide Decahydrate, it does have Dextrose (almost certainly GMO):

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[aeondaze]

Evaporative sea salt contains the same minerals in human blood, including Mg & K.

Both industrial products, and while Morton's Lite doesn't have the "yummy" Sodium Ferrocyanide Decahydrate, it does have Dextrose (almost certainly GMO):

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Ain't no special attributes to the elements, sodium is sodium, potassium is potassium, doesn't matter where it comes from only what else they throw in too.

FWIW, we don't have Moretons lite salt here, I've never used it. I just know thats the brand name for the equivalent in the states.

Sea salt is way overrated. Sure there area trace elements in it, but there are trace elements in lots of things, even grass.

[Spectrism]

Brawndo has electrolytes.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5Q-yNNu-tM

[crimethink]

Ain't no special attributes to the elements, sodium is sodium, potassium is potassium, doesn't matter where it comes from only what else they throw in too.

FWIW, we don't have Moretons lite salt here, I've never used it. I just know thats the brand name for the equivalent in the states.

Sea salt is way overrated. Sure there area trace elements in it, but there are trace elements in lots of things, even grass.

We will have to respectfully disagree. You come at this from a materialist standpoint, and I from an idealistic-naturalist standpoint.

[aeondaze]

Sea salt is way overrated. Sure there area trace elements in it, but there are trace elements in lots of things, even grass.

To wit-


The great sea salt myth. Sorry, y’all, there’s no minerals in there.

by Mike Luque
The trace minerals in sea salts are just that… traces.

Sea Salt drying in AustraliaIf you go to google and look up “sea salt minerals”, you’ll find link after link of pages espousing the benefits of sea salt, how the mineral content of sea salt is greater than refined table salt and better healthy food choice. But is there any truth to it?
Without fail, sea salt tastes better than table salt.

And for that reason alone, it’s a fine choice to make. I only purchase sea salt, even though I don’t actually use much salt in my cooking. To me, table salt has a harsh, flat, too direct flavor.

As far as the nutritional content of table salt versus sea salt, sea salt does come out on top. But that doesn’t actually mean much to your health.
So let’s take a look at those minerals.

Americans consume too much sodium.I’ve chosen 5 common minerals which are all vital nutrients to examine: calcium, iron, magnesium, potassium and zinc. So how much is in sea salt relative to table salt and are the volumes enough for it to matter to your health?

As a base, I’ve listed the volumes of each nutrient you’d take in if you consumed the “tolerable upper intake level” of sodium per day, which is 2,300 mg/day, approximately the amount you’ll take in from one teaspoon of table salt per day.




Calcium Table Salt1 Sea Salt2 Men’s Daily Value3 Women’s Daily Value3
1.4 mg 10 mg 1,000 mg 1,000 mg

Calcium contributes towards network building in organisms, which means this element has the ability to aid muscle movements and skeletal structures. Additionally, calcium works to help efficient nerve transmission, hormonal balances as well as vascular contractions. – The Food Pyramid

Yes, as you can see, sea salt contains more than 7 times the calcium as table salt. However, since the Daily Value is 1,000 mg a day, neither version of salt is going to be an effective way to ensure you’re taking in enough calcium.
Try these food sources instead4:

Yogurt, plain, low fat, 8 ounces – 415 mg
Sardines, canned in oil, w/bones, 3 oz – 325 mg
Cheddar cheese, 1.5 ounces – 307 mg
Milk, whole (3.25% milk fat), 8 ounces – 276 mg


Iron Table Salt1 Sea Salt2 Man’s Daily Value3 Woman’s Daily Value3
0 mg 0.2 mg 8 mg 18 mg

As a trace mineral in the body, iron provides the necessary transport means for moving oxygen throughout bodily systems fluidly. Additionally, it can aide in the repair and replication and differentiation of cells. – The Food Pyramid

Again, considering that table salt contains essentially no iron at all, even the meager 0.2 mg you’ll get from sea salt is an impovement. But it’s still only 1/40 the Daily Recommended Intake.

I actually read a blog where the writer cautioned against switching to sea salt because the iron content was high and some people have to be cautious with their iron intake. Really?? 0.2 mg out of 18 mg gives you pause? Just proof that the writer didn’t do her homework.
Try these food sources instead (non-heme iron)4:

Edamame, 1 cup – 8.8 mg
Lentils, boiled, 1 cup – 6.6 mg
Tofu, raw, firm, ½ cup – 3.4 mg
Spinach, fresh, boiled, drained, ½ cup – 3.2 mg


Magnesium Table Salt1 Sea Salt2 Men’s Daily Value3 Women’s Daily Value3
0.1 mg 26 mg 350 mg 265 mg

Balanced levels of magnesium help keep a heart rate steady, contribute to muscle relaxation and function and keep blood pressure at a balanced level. Magnesium is a mineral that helps other minerals function more efficiently as well. – The Food Pyramid

Here is a nutrient where there is a huge difference between sea and table salt. The value of magnesium in sea salt is actually statistically significant. But you still couldn’t use it as the only source of magnesium without taking in 10 times the recommended amount of sodium… which would be bad.
Try these food sources instead4:

Wheat Bran, crude, ¼ cup – 89 mg
Almonds, dry roasted, 1 ounce – 80 mg
Spinach, frozen, cooked, ½ cup – 78 mg
Edamame, ½ cup – 74 mg


Potassium Table Salt1 Sea Salt2 Men’s Daily Value3 Women’s Daily Value3
0.5 mg 6.8 mg 4,700 mg 4,700 mg

Potassium plays an essential role in providing nutrients to cells, however, this mineral’s responsibility extends far beyond nutrient transport. In addition, potassium works to maintain balanced fluid levels in and around each cell that exists within the human body. Potassium has the added job of helping to maintain the heart’s regular beat and make sure blood pressure levels remain even. – The Food Pyramid

Pretty simple here. Relative to other minerals, we require very large quantities of potassium and neither sea nor table salt have the ability to provide meaningful levels of this important nutrient.
Try these food sources instead4:

Winter squash, cubed, 1 cup, cooked – 896 mg
Sweet potato, medium, baked with skin – 694 mg
White beans, canned, drained, half cup – 595 mg
Yogurt, fat-free, 1 cup – 579 mg


Zinc Table Salt1 Sea Salt2 Men’s Daily Value3 Women’s Daily Value3
0.0 mg 0.01 mg 11 mg 8 mg

Zinc works with upwards of 200 different types of enzymes in the body in an effort to maintain normal growth and development patterns, direct the functions of the immune system and the creation of male testosterone just to name a few. Additionally, zinc plays a major role in producing healthy and viable sperm in males. – The Food Pyramid

There is essentially no zinc to be found in either form of salt.
Try these food sources instead4:

Oysters, cooked, breaded/fried, 3 oz – 74 mg
Crab, Alaska king, cooked, 3 ounces – 6.5 mg
Beef patty, broiled, 3 ounces – 5.3 mg
Yogurt, fruit, low fat, 8 ounces – 1.7 mg

In conclusion, yes sea salt tastes better but it is not a useful source of nutrients.

So next time you’re on another website and they tout the benefits of getting your minerals from sea salt, you’ll know that they aren’t dong their homework and providing you with genuinely useful information for your health. You might have to look at the rest of the information on that site with a grain of salt.

[Serpo]

Sea salt is portable and easy to use...........

food sources are not always available or handy.....


otherwise the very best way is through coconut water

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/11/27/coconut-water-ultimate-rehydrator.aspx


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he makes water wetter and its easier to assimilate

eating juicy fruits has wetter water so are good for hydrating.

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[crimethink]

http://www.megahydrate.com/why_take_megahydrate.html

More overpriced, unnecessary crap. Spring water & good food, and you're all set.

Oh, and the peddler boasts about things I sure wouldn't:

http://www.megahydrate.com/about_dr_flanagan.html

At 17, he was part of a Pentagon Think Tank and later was a consultant to the CIA, NSA, and NASA.

[Serpo]

More overpriced, unnecessary crap. Spring water & good food, and you're all set.

Oh, and the peddler boasts about things I sure wouldn't:

http://www.megahydrate.com/about_dr_flanagan.html

At 17, he was part of a Pentagon Think Tank and later was a consultant to the CIA, NSA, and NASA.

He is a very intelligent man, he invented a nuclear detection thingy which the pentagon grabbed.

Its true he sells his stuff

[crimethink]

He is a very intelligent man, he invented a nuclear detection thingy which the pentagon grabbed.

Its true he sells his stuff

Supplements are unnecessary unless there is a genuine lack of what is being supplemented. If you eat a proper variety of quality food (organic and/or Biodynamic), you almost certainly don't need supplements - including this guy's.

[Libertytree]

I'm gonna give the supplements a try, worth every penny if they work. Just spent 5 days in the hospital and they pumped at least 5 liters of electrolytes in me and these seem like a viable product to me. And if they fail, I'll tell ya all about it.

[zap]

Jezzz .....Take care of yourself !

[ShortJohnSilver]

does this guy know what he is talking about, in terms of the electrolytes (yes, he sells an exercise program, but this page is only about electrolytes):

http://www.builtlean.com/2012/11/28/electrolytes/

If he wrote accurate info, it seems like a good general introduction to electrolytes.

[Spectrism]

I would juice a variety of fruits & veggies if I needed to boost electrolytes.

[mick silver]

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