Were the Egyptions in Australia?

[expat4ever]

It would make sense if they were. That would explain the boomerangs that are found in the Cairo Museum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvXyGwr64hM

[Neuro]

Those hieroglyphs are faked. The growth on the rock are not interrupted by the glyphs, but there is no growth in between, unless someone can show me a photo on how they looked like before they were "cleaned", that is...

[expat4ever]

Those hieroglyphs are faked. The growth on the rock are not interrupted by the glyphs, but there is no growth in between, unless someone can show me a photo on how they looked like before they were "cleaned", that is...

There is an interview with the man who was in charge of cleaning them up. He worked for the Ausie Gov or parks department or something like that. They were completely overgrown before he started. They are also in a very out of the way place so it would be strange to fake something of that magnitude.

Seems to m,e there must be evidence of these Pharohs sons someplace with some sort of record of them being lost or traveling abroad and never coming back. Finding the remains would give this story some credibility as well. Until then I am on the fence about it but it would explain the boomerangs. Just another small piece of the puzzle.

[singular_me]

I am aware of these videos and find it very intriguing, indeed. Like you I find sitting on the fence the best spot ever in a world where nearly everything is a lie to sustain a status quo prison planet.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_xyQ4rQ9XA

------------------------- let me throw this in since we speak of aussie

Kangaroo sketch could rewrite Aussie history
©The Daily Telegraph | 17 January, 2014
http://www.timeslive.co.za/thetimes/2014/01/17/kangaroo-sketch-could-rewrite-aussie-history
A drawing of a kangaroo on a 16th-century Portuguese manuscript could change the world's understanding of Australia's history.
http://www.timeslive.co.za/Feeds/2014/01/16/1082963_898795.jpg/ALTERNATES/crop_630x400/1082963_898795.jpg

[Neuro]

There is an interview with the man who was in charge of cleaning them up. He worked for the Ausie Gov or parks department or something like that. They were completely overgrown before he started. They are also in a very out of the way place so it would be strange to fake something of that magnitude.

Seems to m,e there must be evidence of these Pharohs sons someplace with some sort of record of them being lost or traveling abroad and never coming back. Finding the remains would give this story some credibility as well. Until then I am on the fence about it but it would explain the boomerangs. Just another small piece of the puzzle.

Show a picture of how it looked like before he cleaned it!

[singular_me]

looks like this is one...

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_australia04.htm

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_arqueo/australia04_03.jpg


Show a picture of how it looked like before he cleaned it!

I keep an open mind on that one... not as sure as I am about ancient egypt.

[expat4ever]

That was an interesting read. Thank you singular. I didnt know about the tunnels or other sites.

Could it all be fake? I suppose but then we have to ask why someone would go through the trouble to fake something like this and not claim it. Also have to wonder where all the mistakes are when they were carving this. Surely you dont go out in the middle of nowhere with a chisle and start carving on a wall and get it right the first time. :).

[Glass]

my post seems to have gone missing again. Interesting timing. I was thinking on this at the weekend. That Australia seems to be the only continent that doesn't have pyramids...... that anyone knows about or is telling about. It's fairly flat here. You would think they would be easy to find.

There is one pyramid I know of. the federal parliament building

[osoab]

my post seems to have gone missing again. Interesting timing. I was thinking on this at the weekend. That Australia seems to be the only continent that doesn't have pyramids...... that anyone knows about or is telling about. It's fairly flat here. You would think they would be easy to find.

There is one pyramid I know of. the federal parliament building

what are you talking about? you have ayers rock.

[Glass]

what are you talking about? you have ayers rock.

yes but thats just a big lump of stone. Interesting though it is, it doesn't look very pointy on top.

[crimethink]

what are you talking about? you have ayers rock.

Ayers Rock? That's racist! Don't you know it's Uluru?

;D

[osoab]

Ayers Rock? That's racist! Don't you know it's Uluru?

;D

i thought ayers rock was english for uluru.

[Neuro]

i thought ayers rock was english for uluru.
Imperialist son of a bitch!

[Glass]

well its just the recognition of the local peoples. We use a lot of aboriginal names for locations.
http://www.parksaustralia.gov.au/uluru/images/home-1.jpg

Never been there myself.

[Neuro]

looks like this is one...

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_australia04.htm

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_arqueo/australia04_03.jpg



I keep an open mind on that one... not as sure as I am about ancient egypt.
Is that photo from 1983?

[crimethink]

well its just the recognition of the local peoples. We use a lot of aboriginal names for locations.

Which is questionable. Why would anyone want to use identifiers of the most primitive "men" on Earth? Australia didn't exist until Europeans created it. Before, it was just a continent inhabited by wildlife.

[aeondaze]

Which is questionable. Why would anyone want to use identifiers of the most primitive "men" on Earth? Australia didn't exist until Europeans created it. Before, it was just a continent inhabited by wildlife.

Regardless of your views on what constitutes modern man, the Australian aboriginal is still considered to be homo sapiens sapiens and as such for better or worse part of our cultural heritage. Being an ancient vestige of the first wave of migrations out of Africa makes them particularly significant culturally.

Yes legally, even up until the 1960's the indigenous peoples of Australia were considered part of the nations fauna, but that doesn't mean they weren't 'human'.

I can empathize with their current circumstance, having been hunted nearly to cultural extinction, having had their offspring forcibly taken from them for nigh on 200 years takes a heavy toll on a culture which by all intents and purposes was strictly honor bound. The adoption of African American ghetto culture combined with a powerful sense of disenfranchisement has left the culture in tatters. Today there is little left of that noble tradition and what replaces it is astronomical suicide and disease rates, third world nutrition and rampant substance abuse. A pattern I'm sure you're familiar with in the states.

If you've never met and Australian Aboriginal nor immersed yourself in their culture then one can hardly be considered qualified to comment on the subject.

Having said that, its my assertion that 'white' western European culture has experienced exactly the same cultural genocide since the Roman occupation of western Europe during the first century BC. It may be further back in our history, so far back in there isn't even a faint memory of that cultural past, but it occured none the less.

In many ways I see the Australian Aboriginal as fortunate to be able to retain some of their cultural legacy. Western Europeans on the other hand walk around in a deluded trance completely unaware that they've even lost their cultural identity which I view as utterly tragic.

[singular_me]

since I have mixed feelings about it, I only have been searching for maybe 15 mins. If I find something more convincing, I will post.


Is that photo from 1983?

[Glass]

Which is questionable. Why would anyone want to use identifiers of the most primitive "men" on Earth? Australia didn't exist until Europeans created it. Before, it was just a continent inhabited by wildlife.

Why would it be questionable? They are just the local names. The US has local names doesn't it or is it all 100% named by literal caucasians. The Rocky Mountains, because it's Rocky.




Alabama (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alabama) – Named for the Alibamu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alabama_%28people%29), a tribe whose name derives from a Choctaw (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_language) phrase meaning "thicket-clearers"[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-1) or "plant-cutters" (from albah, "(medicinal) plants", and amo, "to clear"). The modern Choctaw name for the tribe is Albaamu.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-2)
Alaska (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska) – from Aleut (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleut_language) alaxsxaq, "the mainland" (literally "the object towards which the action of the sea is directed").[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-3)
Arizona (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona) – may be from O'odham (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O%27odham_language) ali ṣona-g, "having a little spring", though it may come from Basque (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_language): aritz zonak ("Good oaks").[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-Bright_2004:47-4)
Arkansas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkansas) – from the Illinois (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami-Illinois_language) rendering of the tribal autonym kką:ze (see Kansas, below), which the Miami (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami_tribe) and Illinois (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois_tribe) used to refer to the Quapaw (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quapaw).[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-Bright_2004:47-4)[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-Rankin-5)[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-6)
Connecticut (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connecticut) – from some Eastern Algonquian language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Algonquian_languages) of southern New England (perhaps Mahican (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahican)), meaning "at the long tidal river" (after the Connecticut River (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connecticut_River)).[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-7)[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-Campbell-8) The name reflects Proto-Eastern-Algonquian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Algonquian_languages) *kwən-, "long"; *-əhtəkw, "tidal river"; and *-ənk, the locative (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locative) suffix[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-9)
Hawaii (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaii) - Hawaiian language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiian_language) name Hawaiʻi - from Hawaiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiki), legendary homeland of the Polynesians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polynesia).[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-10) Hawaiki is believed to mean "place of the gods"[11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-11)
Idaho (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idaho) – may be from Plains Apache (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plains_Apache_language) ídaahę́, "enemy", used to refer to the Comanches (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comanche),[12] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-12) or it may have been an invented word.
Illinois (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois) – from the French (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_language) rendering of an Algonquian (perhaps Miami (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami-Illinois_language)) word apparently meaning "s/he speaks normally" (c.f. Miami ilenweewa),[13] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-13) from Proto-Algonquian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Algonquian_language) *elen-, "ordinary" + -wē, "to speak",[14] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-14)[15] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-15) referring to the Illiniwek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illiniwek).
Iowa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa) – from Dakota (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sioux_language) ayúxba or ayuxwe, via French (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_language) Aiouez.[16] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-16)[17] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-17)[18] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-18)
Kansas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas) – from the autonym kką:ze.[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-Rankin-5)
Kentucky (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kentucky) – from an Iroquoian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iroquoian_languages) word meaning "at the meadow" or "on the prairie"[19] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-Mithun-19) (c.f. Seneca (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seneca_language) gëdá’geh [kẽtaʔkeh] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA), "at the field").[20] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-20)
Massachusetts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts) – from an Algonquian language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algonquian_languages) of southern New England, and apparently means "near the small big mountain", usually identified as Great Blue Hill (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Blue_Hill) on the border of Milton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton,_Massachusetts) and Canton, Massachusetts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canton,_Massachusetts)[21] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-Camp-21) (c.f. the Narragansett (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusett_language) name Massachusêuck).[21] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-Camp-21)
Michigan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan) – from Ottawa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anishinaabe_language) mishigami, "large water" or "large lake".".[22] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-FL-22)[23] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-23)
Minnesota (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota) – from Dakota (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sioux_language) mni-sota, "turbid water".[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-Campbell-8)[24] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-24)
Mississippi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi) – from an Algonquian language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algonquian_languages), probably Ojibwe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anishinaabe_language), meaning "big river" (Ojibwe misiziibi).[22] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-FL-22)[25] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-25)
Missouri (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri) – named for the Missouri tribe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_tribe), whose name comes from Illinois (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami-Illinois_language) mihsoori, "dugout canoe".[26] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-26)
Nebraska (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebraska) – from Chiwere (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiwere_language) ñįbraske, "flattened water".[27] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-Sioux-27)
New Mexico (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico) – the name "Mexico" comes from Nahuatl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nahuatl_language) Mēxihco, of unknown derivation.[28] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-28)
North (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Dakota) and South Dakota (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Dakota) – dakhóta comes from the Sioux (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sioux_language) word for "friend" or "ally".[27] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-Sioux-27)
Ohio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio) – from Seneca (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seneca_language) ohi:yo’, "beautiful river".[29] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-29)[30] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-30)
Oklahoma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma) – invented by Chief Allen Wright (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Wright) as a rough translation of "Indian Territory"; in Choctaw (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_language), okla means "people", "tribe", or "nation", and homa- means "red", thus: "Red people".[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-Campbell-8)[31] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-31)
Tennessee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee) – Derived from the name of a Cherokee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherokee) village, Tanasi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanasi), whose etymology is unknown.[32] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-32)
Texas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas) – ultimately from Caddo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caddo_language) táyshaʔ, "friend".[33] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-33)[34] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-34)
Utah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah) – from a language of one of the Ute (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ute_Tribe) tribe's neighbors, such as Western Apache (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Apache_language) yúdah, "high up".[35] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-ReferenceA-35)
Wisconsin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin) – originally "Mescousing", from an Algonquian language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algonquian_languages), though the source and meaning is not entirely clear; most likely from the Miami (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami-Illinois_language) word Meskonsing meaning "it lies red"[36] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-36)[37] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-37) (c.f. Ojibwe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anishinaabe_language) miskosin).[22] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-FL-22)
Wyoming (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyoming) – from Munsee Delaware (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenape_language) xwé:wamənk, "at the big river flat".[38] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_place_names_in_the_United_States_of_Native _American_origin#cite_note-38)

[singular_me]

one thing is certain, tribes in the amazonia, autralia and africa will not be responsible for WW3 nor pandemics... have nothing to do with GMOs, HAARP, etc, yet they often are called "savages"

evidence that reality is all about "perceptions'.




In many ways I see the Australian Aboriginal as fortunate to be able to retain some of their cultural legacy. Western Europeans on the other hand walk around in a deluded trance completely unaware that they've even lost their cultural identity which I view as utterly tragic.

[crimethink]

Regardless of your views on what constitutes modern man, the Australian aboriginal is still considered to be homo sapiens sapiens


Only by the politically-motivated and the ignorant.




and as such for better or worse part of our cultural heritage.


Kangaroos are far more valuable.




Being an ancient vestige of the first wave of migrations out of Africa makes them particularly significant culturally.


More mythology. "Out of Africa" is false.




Yes legally, even up until the 1960's the indigenous peoples of Australia were considered part of the nations fauna, but that doesn't mean they weren't 'human'.


Pretty revealing, is it not? LOL

Being considered legally wildlife is hardly an endorsement of something being "human."




I can empathize with their current circumstance, having been hunted nearly to cultural extinction, having had their offspring forcibly taken from them for nigh on 200 years takes a heavy toll on a culture which by all intents and purposes was strictly honor bound. The adoption of African American ghetto culture combined with a powerful sense of disenfranchisement has left the culture in tatters. Today there is little left of that noble tradition and what replaces it is astronomical suicide and disease rates, third world nutrition and rampant substance abuse. A pattern I'm sure you're familiar with in the states.


Always excuses for the submen to be defective. :rolleyes:

The Aborigine is half-way between the American Nigger and the American Indian in behavior. Heavy alcoholism but not the levels of violence one sees among Niggers.

Not all "cultures" are valuable. The Aborigine offers nothing of enduring value. Even the most primitive South American tribes have something to offer.




Having said that, its my assertion that 'white' western European culture has experienced exactly the same cultural genocide since the Roman occupation of western Europe during the first century BC. It may be further back in our history, so far back in there isn't even a faint memory of that cultural past, but it occured none the less.


Because we don't use Wicker Men any more we've "lost" our heritage?

Superior cultures displace inferior ones. This is a fact. However, the "inferiority" of Celto-Germanic cultures vs. Italic culture is actually meaningless when we are discussing the variance between Europeans & Aborigines.




In many ways I see the Australian Aboriginal as fortunate to be able to retain some of their cultural legacy. Western Europeans on the other hand walk around in a deluded trance completely unaware that they've even lost their cultural identity which I view as utterly tragic.

Aboriginal "cultural legacy as as primitive as it always was. Some of them didn't even understand sexual intercourse caused pregnancy.

As for European "loss of cultural identity," that is mythical. All human cultures evolve - change through time. You and I are conversing in a Germanic language, BTW. :)

Most Whites recognize their European origins and retain a great deal of their "ancient ways." What they don't understand - are not allowed to recognize - is their inherent value in comparison to other races and subhuman hominids.

[crimethink]

Why would it be questionable? They are just the local names. The US has local names doesn't it or is it all 100% named by literal caucasians. The Rocky Mountains, because it's Rocky.

I have no problem with so-called "cultural imperialism." Place names should reflect the character of the creators of the community or nation. I recognize a lot of American place-names are Indian in origin, but I find that part of the idiotic nostalgia for the mythical "Noble Savage," nothing more.

[crimethink]

one thing is certain, tribes in the amazonia, autralia and africa will not be responsible for WW3 nor pandemics... have nothing to do with GMOs, HAARP, etc, yet they often are called "savages"

evidence that reality is all about "perceptions'.

I suggest you throw out your computer, stop using electricity or petroleum products, and start foraging off the land. You obviously hate the White race. You have no business using the technologies of the "genocidal oppressors."

95% of the White race are not be responsible for world wars or any other mass devastation. Fellow-travelers of the Parasite Race are. And some of us have tried to eliminate that problem for centuries.

[Glass]

I think measuring the intelligence of another race using your races yard stick is probably not going to tell you much. Of course it will tell You that You are superior, which seems to satisfy your needs but it doesn't tell you much about what they know.

For example, you or me living in the Australian bush is probably not going to go well. Just like a native or savage or what ever we are calling them, living in the city or white man's civilisation is also not going to go well. Judging them by your criteria when they are in your world is disingenuous. It is a frame of view or view point that biases what you perceive to be intelligence. So IQ is one such measure because it is a western yard stick and you need to know the nuances of western ideas and beliefs to perform the test.

The one thing the white man has that very few other races have is a need to possess things and to possess those things exclusively, meaning no one else can have them. Aboriginal people don't think like that. The things that are around just are. Now if I put labour into something and molded it into something else, I claim I own that thing because I exerted myself into it. But if I hadn't done that then the thing would just be as it was and I probably would not give a second thought to whether I possessed it or not.

[vacuum]

What they don't understand - are not allowed to recognize - is their inherent value in comparison to other races and subhuman hominids.

Our "value" is determined by our ability to think and shape our future into what we want it to be. In other words, our value is determined by what we do. Not what we "are", which is irrelevant.

So in one sense, it's true that Europeans have a higher value because they have done so much. But at the same time, if those who wield that much power disrespect and destroy those who wield less, then it's all pointless. There is always someone or something bigger who will simply destroy us in turn, and the implication there is that it's a path to self destruction. So our actions, however, powerful, really only have value if they are focused on developing and growing those with less power. That thinking implies that something greater than us will in turn be doing the same with us. Hence it is a more tenable philosophy.

[crimethink]

I think measuring the intelligence of another race using your races yard stick is probably not going to tell you much.


It will tell us about the ability to create things of value, to ponder existence itself, to choose where we go from here.

Permanent stagnation - progress is an unthinkable concept - that's the reality of the Aboriginal Way.




For example, you or me living in the Australian bush is probably not going to go well.


So, wild animals are cognitively superior to all of us?

(don't answer seriously - it's an absurdity)




Just like a native or savage or what ever we are calling them, living in the city or white man's civilisation is also not going to go well. Judging them by your criteria when they are in your world is disingenuous. It is a frame of view or view point that biases what you perceive to be intelligence. So IQ is one such measure because it is a western yard stick and you need to know the nuances of western ideas and beliefs to perform the test.


That "cultural bias" crap doesn't fly. The sheer inability of Aboriginals to create a civilization demonstrates the IQ tests are not simply "culturally biased." They are wildlife intended to remain in a wild habitat. Of course they can't function in civilization; they're not designed for it, any more than any other wild animals.




The one thing the white man has that very few other races have is a need to possess things and to possess those things exclusively, meaning no one else can have them.


LOL

You sound like a liberal, maybe even a Marxist. Why not go all the way, and call the White race "the cancer of history"?

All higher creatures "possess things and possess those things exclusively." Most will fight to the death for those "things." Try to take a Bird of Prey nest from the owner. :)




Aboriginal people don't think like that.


No argument here. "Thinking" isn't exactly something that comes to mind when I ponder the typical Aboriginal.




The things that are around just are.


All the things not nailed down are "free for the taking." Australian crime statistics will show this, too.




Now if I put labour into something and molded it into something else, I claim I own that thing because I exerted myself into it. But if I hadn't done that then the thing would just be as it was and I probably would not give a second thought to whether I possessed it or not.

You contradict yourself after condemning the White race for its "need to possess things and to possess those things exclusively."

White people sweat, suffer, and often die for everything we have, including territory. I make no apologies for all that we have given the world and even all that we claim for ourselves.

[Glass]

It will tell us about the ability to create things of value, to ponder existence itself, to choose where we go from here.

Permanent stagnation - progress is an unthinkable concept - that's the reality of the Aboriginal Way.

See, there you go projecting your standards again, progress (or conversion of resources) to you might be destruction to others.


So, wild animals are cognitively superior to all of us?

(don't answer seriously - it's an absurdity)

I am talking about skills and knowledge and an ability to survive. They can in that environment, we probably couldn't. Conversely they struggle to cope in our environment, being society, where as we obviously cope fairly well.


That "cultural bias" crap doesn't fly. The sheer inability of Aboriginals to create a civilization demonstrates the IQ tests are not simply "culturally biased." They are wildlife intended to remain in a wild habitat. Of course they can't function in civilization; they're not designed for it, any more than any other wild animals.

There goes that projection again. What is the measure of a civilization. I bet it's a western measure. Why, if they are practicing nomads do they need permanency such as structures? When they can walk over there and pick up, catch or trap what ever they want for as long as they want.

hey guess what. Who pays taxes and who doesn't?


You sound like a liberal, maybe even a Marxist. Why not go all the way, and call the White race "the cancer of history"?

Losing the fight I know. but kudos for sticking at it. I don't consider whites to be a cancer. I consider them to be ignorant and bias. Unable to put themselves into other peoples shoes.


All higher creatures "possess things and possess those things exclusively." Most will fight to the death for those "things." Try to take a Bird of Prey nest from the owner. :)

Thats a big claim, higher creatures. Higher than? But lower than? I think attacking any creatures nest and young will get you some trouble. But black people don't care about their kids? Not getting the point there.


No argument here. "Thinking" isn't exactly something that comes to mind when I ponder the typical Aboriginal.
thats clear.


All the things not nailed down are "free for the taking." Australian crime statistics will show this, too.

Before white man landed there were no crime statistics. That must mean the white man bought crime to the land. Because remember the white colonies were built by convicted criminals.


You contradict yourself after condemning the White race for its "need to possess things and to possess those things exclusively."
No condemnation, just observation. I possess somethings and I'm glad for them.


White people sweat, suffer, and often die for everything we have, including territory. I make no apologies for all that we have given the world and even all that we claim for ourselves.

They sweat suffer and often die for the State or the King. I think other races have contributions to make that are not the sciences or mathematics but understanding of the land and it's ecosystem, what it is and what it does. They know this stuff.

Think about thanksgiving. The Indians gave surplus food to the settlers who did not grasp the nature of the land and were unable to crop it successfully. Did no one learn anything from that? Apparently not.

[singular_me]

Sure 95% are not culpable, but I am questioning here the level of their gullibility and somehow intelligence for letting that happen. I do my best to spread information, hence my internet columns which I am not (yet) paid for.

It is okay to be dumb if one is white? Are you an apologist? In the so called civilized world everybody is even more responsible for what it is.


I suggest you throw out your computer, stop using electricity or petroleum products, and start foraging off the land. You obviously hate the White race. You have no business using the technologies of the "genocidal oppressors."

95% of the White race are not be responsible for world wars or any other mass devastation. Fellow-travelers of the Parasite Race are. And some of us have tried to eliminate that problem for centuries.

trash your computer: something I said on a regular basis on here and that you borrowed from me... my ONLY point was that reality is what one perceive it is/aka awareness

intelligence obeys paradigms, I wonder how many of us on here could survive in the jungle with only a knife as a weapon.

In my paradigm, CT, your adamic doctrine sounds idiotic

[singular_me]

exactly vacuum...

intelligence goes along with exponential factors... the more awareness and knowledge the bigger the threat that everything could go wrong. And today, the so called developed nations have the power to void everything... send us back to oblivion or the stone age.

In fact more Intelligence demands more Love... (aka compassion, empathy, respect for free will etc). Its a Natural Law. The Law of Equilibrium is absolute (read walter russell's secret of light)

There truly is a metaphysical battle out there... and more violence in thoughts or actions cannot fix this.

That's what the NWO wants so they can shift the blame on to populations while getting the goal achieved. The NWO has succeeded so far because they escape the laws of karma by making us asking for more control... for this predetermined evil.




Our "value" is determined by our ability to think and shape our future into what we want it to be. In other words, our value is determined by what we do. Not what we "are", which is irrelevant.

So in one sense, it's true that Europeans have a higher value because they have done so much. But at the same time, if those who wield that much power disrespect and destroy those who wield less, then it's all pointless. There is always someone or something bigger who will simply destroy us in turn, and the implication there is that it's a path to self destruction. So our actions, however, powerful, really only have value if they are focused on developing and growing those with less power. That thinking implies that something greater than us will in turn be doing the same with us. Hence it is a more tenable philosophy.

[expat4ever]

It will tell us about the ability to create things of value, to ponder existence itself, to choose where we go from here.

Permanent stagnation - progress is an unthinkable concept - that's the reality of the Aboriginal Way.

As I look around at the world I see that we have created lots of things but very few of them have any real value. Value is an abstract term so may be better to clearly define or give example of things of value. I imagine there are probably things that are important or have value to you but maybe not everyone. As singular has pointed out, its all a matter of perspective.
I place value in a good mall to split wood and a good woodstove to heat my home year after year. Good cooking utensils and a decent toothbrush are also valuable to me. My 30 year old stereo and my computer also have some value. The stereo is simple enjoyment and the cpu for research and learning.

Others place value in i phones. I dont own a cell and havent for years. Traveling recently to Cancun I was probably the only person on the planes without a cell. Everyone else sees value in them. I have no need for one.

There's value in the space program and as a society I would love to see us invest as much into space as we do into creating a war machine to kill each other. Actually I would like to see the space program get the defense budget and the defense budget get the space program budget.

The things that should be the most important to a civilization are clean air, food, and water. It doesnt really matter if we have an iphone if we have no water to drink, air to breath and nutrient rich food to eat. If we are going to measure a civilizations success that would have to be the first place we start. In that regard I would say the US and many other "1st world countries" have failed miserably. But they they have lots of fictitious paper that we call money so they must be great, or they have great weapons systems so they must be the best. But its all for the illusion of freedom. We are so free now that our Gov monitors everything we say and do on the internet or through email. In the US we are so free we have the highest incarceration rate in the world. We have a quarter of Chinas population but twice the number of inmates. We cant grow a plant in our back yard and smoke it and if we do then the Gov can come and take everything we have worked for our entire lives but we can go to the store and smoke all the chemically induced cigarrettes we like even though they will kill us eventually.

How happy are the first world countries? For the most part, not very. Mostly stressed out and miserable. Alcohol and drugs are the main escapes to help most forget that by some fictitious standard they have failed. What they didnt realize is they never had a chance to begin with. The system was designed to keep up the illusion that everyone could be mega rich and happy. The reality is there is only room for 1% to attain that level and another 4-10% to attain aboove average standards of living. The rest are just slaves to the grind.

Other things of value that actually hold a storage of wealth are gold and silver of course but who does the mining for most of that in South Africa?

Is this progress? The reality is our civilization is based on fictitious paper currency that people percieve to have value. They go to work everyday to put digits on a computer screen in their bank accounts so they can trade it for worthless crap that they percieve will make them happy yet it never does. This fuels a consumerism society that has stagnated for 100 years. Theres your permanent stagnation. Whats next? the new I phone or big screen or newest version of the same old piece of shit car or truck? Maybe a new house so we can go into debt for the next 30 years and remain slaves to the system?
Thats our society in a nutshell. Well except for the part where 1/3rd of our GDP goes to fueling the war machine to keep it all going.
If this is progress I'll take the simple life of growing my own food and collecting my own water. If I could isolate myself so I could breath clean air then I would include that also but I cant.

[crimethink]

Our "value" is determined by our ability to think and shape our future into what we want it to be. In other words, our value is determined by what we do.


This is true, which is I why call into question the full human nature of many White "people." A large percentage have abandoned their Gift from God, of being in His Image.




Not what we "are", which is irrelevant.


What we are determines what we could choose to be.




So in one sense, it's true that Europeans have a higher value because they have done so much. But at the same time, if those who wield that much power disrespect and destroy those who wield less, then it's all pointless....So our actions, however, powerful, really only have value if they are focused on developing and growing those with less power.


This is borderline Marxism.

We have a Christian obligation to help those who are less fortunate than we are, because God has done that for us. However, it is also expected that people do the right thing and contribute properly (e.g., 2 Thessalonians 3:10).

The White Adamic race has given untold wealth, times, and lives to better the non-Whites of our world. Most of their "challenges" are their own fault. How are we repaid? With violent scorn and condemnation.

I, for one, am "done" with Africa, and much of the rest of the Turd World. Back to nature is where we should allow it to go.

[crimethink]

See, there you go projecting your standards again, progress (or conversion of resources) to you might be destruction to others.


My standards are civilized human standards. Building a modest home atop an ancient Turd World burial ground? Call the Waaambulance!




I am talking about skills and knowledge and an ability to survive. They can in that environment, we probably couldn't. Conversely they struggle to cope in our environment, being society, where as we obviously cope fairly well.


Your comparison is an absurdity, since, as I pointed out, animals perpetually survive in wild environments.



What is the measure of a civilization. I bet it's a western measure.


Of course it is! Those who create civilization get to define it. :)



I don't consider whites to be a cancer. I consider them to be ignorant and bias. Unable to put themselves into other peoples shoes.


ROTFLMAO!

That's why mercy is a White thing.




Before white man landed there were no crime statistics. That must mean the white man bought crime to the land.


You are clearly a committed anti-White fanatic.

Aboriginals never murdered or committed any other offenses against each other prior to the White man? Wow, that's some claim.





They sweat suffer and often die for the State or the King. I think other races have contributions to make that are not the sciences or mathematics but understanding of the land and it's ecosystem, what it is and what it does. They know this stuff.


Such "contributions" are not unique "contributions." Anyone who lives there can know such things. Especially White people who take a scientific approach to it.




Think about thanksgiving. The Indians gave surplus food to the settlers who did not grasp the nature of the land and were unable to crop it successfully. Did no one learn anything from that? Apparently not.

And the Indians inherited most of their technologies from the White man...before Plymouth!

We can observe beavers making dams, to determine good places to put a human dam. That doesn't mean beavers are our equals.

[crimethink]

trash your computer: something I said on a regular basis on here and that you borrowed from me.

Wow, narcissism much?

I've used the phrase "throw out your computer" to anti-White fanatics since 1996.

[crimethink]

As I look around at the world I see that we have created lots of things but very few of them have any real value.

You greatly lack in appreciation for the technologies that not only keep us alive, but actually allow us to exist at all.

I'm not at all talking about the ephemeral things - garbage, really - sold at shopping malls.

I'm talking about energy, communications, medicine. Without White energy technologies, 90% of the human(oid)s of this planet would never have been born. Without White communications technologies, at least 50% of the human(oid)s of Earth would die off within a year. And do I even need to address medicine?

Every meal you enjoy is because of White technology. Oh, yes, much is made about Turd Worlders picking it, but those crops simply wouldn't exist without the White man making them even possible.

Creators from the White race have made this world that every one enjoys - yes, every one. A day with Mexicans or a day without Blacks? LOL - try a day without White people. The Chinese and other East Asians could get by without us, but the rest of the world would depopulate rapidly.

[Glass]

My standards are civilized human standards. Building a modest home atop an ancient Turd World burial ground? Call the Waaambulance!


Your standards are white standards of civilization. There is nothing wrong than that but there have been and still are other civilizations. As you have not lived as another civilization you cannot frame your view point accordingly.


Your comparison is an absurdity, since, as I pointed out, animals perpetually survive in wild environments.

No it isn't. It's quite sensible. If you were suddenly dropped into the outback of Australia you probably would not survive without help. I'm pretty sure I would need help to survive. Knowledge of the land and so on.


Of course it is! Those who create civilization get to define it. :)

Those that create AN civilization can label their efforts as some kind of civilization.


That's why mercy is a White thing.

got no idea what the point is there. Mercy comes from empathy. Other cultures do have empathy.


You are clearly a committed anti-White fanatic.

No we addressed this already. Remember from my earlier post, losing the fight but never mind, keep trying.


Aboriginals never murdered or committed any other offenses against each other prior to the White man? Wow, that's some claim.

Not a claim I made. I'm responding to your claim about crime. If there were no possessions as defined by whites and no taxes or laws other than those of the tribe and nature, then what crime? White man crime is reported in crime statistics. Because white man was not always here, there have not always been crime statistics so your statement is nonsensical.


Such "contributions" are not unique "contributions." Anyone who lives there can know such things. Especially White people who take a scientific approach to it.

What is the scientific approach? Is is not theorising and then observing? Or is it the act of writing down the theory and then the observation? Have any cultures used a word of mouth method to transfer knowledge? Still do, even in this day and age?


And the Indians inherited most of their technologies from the White man...before Plymouth!

We can observe beavers making dams, to determine good places to put a human dam. That doesn't mean beavers are our equals.

Not sure why you would make a statement about beavers, but what technologies that made thing better for Indians? Casinos? Wars against tribes to drive them from their lands? White mans fire water? White mans blankets with small pox?

We can never know 100% for sure that they are better off or worse off but to simply claim this is the case because you are a white person is massive hubris.

[expat4ever]

You greatly lack in appreciation for the technologies that not only keep us alive, but actually allow us to exist at all.

I'm not at all talking about the ephemeral things - garbage, really - sold at shopping malls.

I'm talking about energy, communications, medicine. Without White energy technologies, 90% of the human(oid)s of this planet would never have been born. Without White communications technologies, at least 50% of the human(oid)s of Earth would die off within a year. And do I even need to address medicine?

We have been around for a long time, long before any of these technologies existed. Energy is useful in that it allows many to become lazy so a machine can do all the work. Its also the reason our soils are depleted and our food is lacking in many of the nutrients it once had.
Communications technologies like what TV? The thing that controls the populations and forms public opinion around the world? We can do without that as well. Medicine, umm, have a look at whats its made of. Most of it is flouride and I cant think of one off the top of my head that we cant live without. Maybe penicillin. I've stated this many times. The medical industry in the US is a fraud. For the hundreds of billions or maybe evin trillion that we spend we get 6 months more than Cuba who has next to nothing. Thats the added life expectancy from all of our white technology.
To be honest is at 74 1/2 a Dr comes along and says I can keep you alive for another 6 months but its going to cost you XXXX.. I'll pass. I lived and that 6 months isnt going to do shit to change anything.


Every meal you enjoy is because of White technology. Oh, yes, much is made about Turd Worlders picking it, but those crops simply wouldn't exist without the White man making them even possible.

Food was here long before humans came about. Its really not that hard to plant a seed and make more food. You can eat the food, seeds and all, shit out the remains and the seeds will grow. You can spit out the seeds and they will grow. I give god the credit for this. I havent ever seen him so no idea if he is white or black.


Creators from the White race have made this world that every one enjoys - yes, every one. A day with Mexicans or a day without Blacks? LOL - try a day without White people. The Chinese and other East Asians could get by without us, but the rest of the world would depopulate rapidly.
I know your smarter than this CT so not sure why you are making statements like that.

[crimethink]

I know your smarter than this CT so not sure why you are making statements like that.

I won't even bother with the rest of what you said, but this one demanded a response:

I stand by what I said. The bloated populations of the Turd World are due solely to the technologies that White men have given to (and largely maintain for) the world. No more White men means widely-successful industrial agriculture ends. One can argue about the philosophical merits (or lack thereof) of industrial agriculture, but it's a fact that Turd World subsistence farming does not - can not - allow for tens or hundreds of millions in every Turd World country. No more White men means dependable communications/transportation networks end. No more White men means advanced medicine (including knowledge of hygiene) ends. Sure, the Yellow Man would maintain such things in their own world, but supporting the Turd World? LOL!

No more White men means the Turd World returns to 1850...or earlier.

[crimethink]

If there were no possessions as defined by whites and no taxes or laws other than those of the tribe and nature, then what crime?

Murder & manslaughter are crime. I will not address the rest of what you wrote, as it is a waste of my time. I'm not into debates/discussions with one who is purposely disingenuous.

[Glass]

Murder & manslaughter are crime. I will not address the rest of what you wrote, as it is a waste of my time. I'm not into debates/discussions with one who is purposely disingenuous.

ok thanks for that. Again, finding yourself in a rock or hard place. That's understandable. Pride is an important trait sometimes but the Lord warns it will bite.

Not sure what or where instances of Murder and manslaughter you are inferring occurred. Can you point me to the statistics for those please?

It is believed that China has 300 million people by 1800. That's about the same population as America has today. This was before western technology came to China, remembering that everything went through Hong Kong for decades before Shanghai was opened up. So I'm struggling to see the link between western technology and population growth.

The african population went down by 100 million people when the western world turned up and started shipping them to the new world. Of course only 11 million made it alive but that was probably because they didn't have any technology.

[singular_me]

CRIMETHINK QUOTES:

bold: my comment

(typical NWO mindset, winners writing history)
Of course it is! Those who create civilization get to define it.

(typical NWO mindset supporting "the top down" pyramid. The world is dangerously polluted, most humans are big pharma experiments and our food supply is GMO poisoned, at least 50% of humans are dying in slow motion... lauding jews?)
I'm talking about energy, communications, medicine. Without White energy technologies, 90% of the human(oid)s of this planet would never have been born. Without White communications technologies, at least 50% of the human(oid)s of Earth would die off within a year. And do I even need to address medicine?

(typical NWO mindset: pro statism, feudalism)
My standards are civilized human standards..... ROTFLMAO! That's why mercy is a White thing..... And the Indians inherited most of their technologies from the White man...before Plymouth!

(typical religious mind control...
adamic folks regard themselves as the chosen ones in the image of God = God has caucasian features)
The White Adamic race has given untold wealth, times, and lives to better the non-Whites of our world. Most of their "challenges" are their own fault. How are we repaid? With violent scorn and condemnation... which is I why call into question the full human nature of many White "people." A large percentage have abandoned their Gift from God, of being in His Image.

The rumor (all over the net) is that Cesare Borgia modeled for Da vinci and his face became the icon for christ's features.
http://macquirelatory.com/False%20Images%20of%20Christ.htm
http://watchmanreports.com/m/articles/view/False-Image-of-Christ-Idolatry
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090720134325AAJW97X


conclusion:
now we should no longer wonder why humanity is getting close to fall off the cliff. Supremacy is just another corrupt ideology such as mutliculturalism and feminism.... all divide and conquer.

There is nothing wrong to mate within one's race but the evil starts when it portrays other races/cultures as subhumans to validate the supremacists' position.... I am holier than thou... my skin is wither than yours... all the same.