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Twisted Titan
2nd December 2014, 07:01 AM
Source: CNBC (http://www.cnbc.com/id/102227316)
Anti-government protests flared earlier this year as Venezuelans started to feel the effects of the economy's staggering 60 percent inflation and currency controls that have generated scarcity of basic needs such as toilet paper and toothpaste.



The country's heavily government-subsidized economy is expected to contract by one percent in 2015, according to IMF projections.
"Scarcity is getting worse in Venezuela. Basic products are so hard to get," said Josseline Viera, a doctor in Venezuela. "It used to be that certain products were scarce, now it's basically everything."



Viera says shortages have made it impossible for hospitals to find essential medical products such as gauze and acetaminophen.



"I basically have to send patients to other hospitals," she said. "But patients have to go to a lot of clinics and hospitals before they find the medical supplies they need for their care. I feel very sorry for my country."



Experts predict the situation in Venezuela will worsen as early as the first half of 2015.



"It will be a year of extreme scarcity," Venezuelan economist Angel Garcia Banchs said. "What's coming to Venezuela is chaos that will probably lead to barbarity and people looting. "

















For Saudi Arabia (http://www.cnbc.com/id/10000304), its decision last week not to cut oil production (http://www.cnbc.com/id/102213999) seems to have been an attempt to protect market share. But for Venezuela (http://www.cnbc.com/id/10000518), that decision may mean "game over" for the economy.


Oil accounts for 95 percent of Venezuela's export earnings,and combined with gas, it's 25 percent of the country's gross domestic product. As the price of oil hits a four-year low at $70 per barrel, the OPEC (http://www.cnbc.com/id/10000937) nation's oil-dependent economy is set to implode, experts say, bringing deeper political instability and chaos to the world's 10th-largest oil exporter.







Anti-government protests flared earlier this year as Venezuelans started to feel the effects of the economy's staggering 60 percent inflation and currency controls that have generated scarcity of basic needs such as toilet paper and toothpaste.


Read More Creating inflation is easy. Just ask Venezuela (http://www.cnbc.com/id/102082864)


The country's heavily government-subsidized economy is expected to contract by 1 percent in 2015, according to IMF projections.


(http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/survey/so/2014/CAR101014C.htm)

"Scarcity is getting worse in Venezuela. Basic products are so hard to get," said Josseline Viera, a doctor in Venezuela. "It used to be that certain products were scarce, now it's basically everything."



Viera says shortages have made it impossible for hospitals to find essential medical products such as gauze and acetaminophen.

Read More Why Venezuela is so desperate, in 5 easy charts



(http://www.cnbc.com/id/102097797)

"I basically have to send patients to other hospitals," she said. "But patients have to go to a lot of clinics and hospitals before they find the medical supplies they need for their care. I feel very sorry for my country."



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Experts predict the situation in Venezuela will worsen as early as the first half of 2015.



"It will be a year of extreme scarcity," Venezuelan economist Angel Garcia Banchs (http://www.econometrica.com.ve/pages/nosotros) said. "What's coming to Venezuela is chaos that will probably lead to barbarity and people looting. "



The state of the Venezuelan economy is the result of years of economic mismanagement that the government, for years, was able to cover up by pumping oil revenues to support its populist policies. But this was when oil was at more than $100 per barrel, and despite declining oil production in Venezuela, revenues were enough to keep people happy.



But since this summer, Brent (http://data.cnbc.com/quotes/lcocv1) fell from above $115 per barrel to $70, thanks in part to North America's shale boom, and oil analysts predict oil prices will keep declining below $70 for Brent and even more for crude.



Read More OPEC needs to 'wake up' to shale revolution (http://www.cnbc.com/id/102215226)



One analyst at Nomura recently estimated that Venezuela may need oil prices to hit $200 a barrel to balance its budget. (The precise figure is difficult to determine, because Venezuela doesn't disclose as much economic data as other countries do.)



As oil prices keep falling and Venezuela is left empty-handed, its government will have no other option but to increase taxes, impose price controls and potentially eliminate gasoline subsidies for Venezuelans, something that will create unrest in the South American country, according to Diego Moya-Ocampos (http://press.ihs.com/leadership/country-industry-forecasting-experts/diego-moya-ocampos), a senior political risk analyst at IHS.



"This scenario increases the threat of a new wave of strong anti-government protests in Caracas and key urban centers," Moya-Ocampos said. "Demonstrations can escalate into road blocks and confrontations between security forces and protesters."



Moya-Ocampos also said that anti-government protests could escalate as in the 1989 "Caracazo" or "Caracas disaster," (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracazo) in which fuel price increases unleashed bloody riots: "This could lead to direct or indirect military intervention to guarantee political stability and bring about a change in the direction of economic policy," he said.





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A day after OPEC's announcement that it would not make the production cuts that Venezuela had pleaded for, President Nicolas Maduro (http://www.cnbc.com/id/100642593) tried to reassure Venezuelans that declining oil prices won't affect social programs.



"If we had to cut anything back on our budget, we would cut extravagances, we would cut our own salaries as high officials, but we will never cut one Bolivar of the money that goes to education, food, housing, the missions of our nation," Maduro said Friday during a televised address that was translated from the Spanish by CNBC.



Recent polls show Maduro's popularity has dropped to a record low.



Read More Venezuela, with world's largest reserves, imports oil (http://www.cnbc.com/id/102222911)



"The economy will overcome politics," said the economist Garcia Banchs, who noted that typically in Venezuela, economic realism has taken a back seat to political priorities. That's about to change. "The economy will be on top, and political changes will have to happen."



Venezuela's oil revenue could face another threat aside from declining prices: approval of Keystone XL pipeline bill (http://www.cnbc.com/id/100807462), which congressional Republicans have vowed to bring back for another vote after they return to Capitol Hill in January. If passed, the pipeline could mean that heavy crude from Canada (http://www.cnbc.com/id/10000381) would replace the crude Venezuela exports to the United States.



"If Venezuela were not willing to more heavily discount its crude compared to Mexico's crude, then there's no point of getting it (from Venezuela) if we can get it from Canada or Mexico (http://www.cnbc.com/id/10000383)," said Susan Kaufman Purcell, director of the Center for Hemispheric Policy at the University of Miami. "It will clearly affect Venezuela because of the three countries, it's the most unreliable."

mick silver
2nd December 2014, 07:15 AM
just one more country we are about to take over and free

madfranks
2nd December 2014, 08:33 AM
What's interesting is that there is a growing movement in Venezuela to use bitcoin, in order to bypass government currency controls and the crippling inflation.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/08/us-venezuela-bitcoin-idUSKCN0HX11O20141008


Tech-savvy Venezuelans looking to bypass dysfunctional economic controls are turning to the bitcoin virtual currency to obtain dollars, make Internet purchases -- and launch a little subversion.

Two New York-based Venezuelan brothers hope this week to start trading on the first bitcoin exchange in the socialist-run country, which already has at least several hundred bitcoin enthusiasts.

Due to currency controls introduced by late president Hugo Chavez a decade ago, acquiring hard currency now means either requesting it from the state, which struggles to satisfy demand, or tapping a shadowy black market. Even small dollar transactions are out of the question for most Venezuelans.

While President Nicolas Maduro makes frequent tirades against black market traders, whom he sees as part of the "economic war" on his government and the reason for inflation and shortages, he has never said anything about bitcoin. The government declined to comment on bitcoin policy.

That has created a gray market for bitcoins, a digital currency which is not governed by a central bank or controlled by a single source. Bitcoin values have soared and fallen in the last year as a popular exchange, Mt. Gox, collapsed and some developed countries began to mull bitcoin regulation. In Venezuela, using bitcoins can carry a scent of subversion.

"Bitcoin is a way of rebelling against the system," said one bitcoin trader, Caracas-based software developer John Villar, 32, who discovered the usefulness of bitcoin when he wanted to buy a $10 cellphone battery on Amazon.

Unable to pay for it in dollars, he bought bitcoin off a friend using local currency. He then used the bitcoin to purchase an Amazon gift certificate, with which he bought the battery.

Gerardo Mogollon, a business professor who styles himself as 'Dr. Bitcoin Venezuela,' speaks at conferences and appears in online videos to urge Venezuelans to adopt the currency.

"I'm teaching people to use bitcoin to bypass the exchange controls," said Mogollon, a 42-year-old professor at the University of Tachira's graduate business school.

Currently, bitcoin trading in Venezuela is between enthusiasts who use internet forums and social media to make ad hoc deals.

Venezuela-born brothers Kevin and Victor Charles, now based in New York, are this week hoping to open the "SurBitcoin" exchange, which will match bitcoin buyers and sellers online.

Twisted Titan
2nd December 2014, 09:37 AM
Whats not to love about venezula?

Its should be a paradise by liberalist standards.

All goods are held or controlled by a central source and everybody gets "their fair share"

Dogman
2nd December 2014, 09:44 AM
Venezuela = House of cards!
All it will take is one good wind to knock it down!

The people have been living under a social umbrella provided by the state to curry favor and power by the politicians!

When it crumbles there will be not enough rope or bullets to clean out the vermin that created that social bubble when it bursts.

PatColo
2nd December 2014, 09:44 AM
that have generated scarcity of basic needs such as toilet paper and toothpaste.



I just hope Ponce is using his 5-lifetimes TP supply sparingly; 1 square, maybe 2 squares tops if he drops an extra messy deuce.

After all there's people in VZ going to bed with poopy bums every night! http://socialtimes.com/files/2012/11/mooning.jpg

Dogman
2nd December 2014, 09:50 AM
Hear newspapers are hell on the plumbing, but what the hay!

old steel
2nd December 2014, 10:28 AM
What?

The CIA doesn't have a puppet to take over from Hugo?

mick silver
2nd December 2014, 02:21 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Eh1kW5cLZu4/U61mcmr4k4I/AAAAAAAABBQ/kSP-ev7FYkM/s1600/We+have+met+the+enemy+and+he+is+us.jpg

Neuro
2nd December 2014, 02:25 PM
Hear newspapers are hell on the plumbing, but what the hay!
I hear hay tends to make your fingers shitty. But what the hell!

Neuro
2nd December 2014, 02:27 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Eh1kW5cLZu4/U61mcmr4k4I/AAAAAAAABBQ/kSP-ev7FYkM/s1600/We+have+met+the+enemy+and+he+is+us.jpg
Is it rubbing its ass against the stem due to shortness of TP?

brosil
2nd December 2014, 04:05 PM
First, nice use of Bitcoin.
Second, when using corncobs to replace tp: remember to boil them first to soften them.