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PatColo
3rd December 2014, 06:02 AM
Kitco has this nifty new Markets (http://www.kitco.com/finance/) page, not to be mistaken for their All Metal Quotes (http://www.kitco.com/market/) page, which happens to end with .../market in the URL.

So clicking the US Dollar Index chart takes us to that 72 hour USD graph page (http://www.kitco.com/finance/details.html?j1_module=indiceDetail&popup=1&j1_symbol=%24DXY&j1_region=US&j1_selected=chart&_hostparams=&js=1) (java, doesn't paste here...). You can change the time period, and other options, below. Check the 10, and/or 20 year periods. USD's current 88.8x level takes us back to March '06, nearly 9 years. But check the 20 year chart, and notice that if USD exceeds that Nov '05 91.57 peak, that would take it back to Oct/Nov '03 as USD was descending from that lofty Jan '02 peak of 120.22. :D

Bad for US exports? What does US export anymore? GMO crops and JooweyWood movies.

Good for ChinaMart shoppers (IE imports)? Depends... they won't lower prices if they don't have to... depends on the item, and whether there's still any Mom/Pop shops competing in their area market, which ChinaMart hasn't starved out yet.

Bad for commods? Well, you'd think.... but use the "Compare to" overlay function at that kitco USD page, and select the "S&P GSCI Index". While the major USD rallies and waterfalls correspond contrarily; looking at the 20 year view of that... well, gets confusing coz the lines cross in latter half of '04, and kitco could uses some improvement with the line/shading colors to keep track, but notice GSCI is a good deal higher now than it was the past several times the USD has been in this 88 area.

And, we're talking about PMs, not the whole diverse GSCI basket of commods. King of commodities: crude, and its partners gasoline & heating oil, have lost ~1/3 of their value since August, ripping the GSCI index a new one.

Average PM is around 3x today vs what it was in Dec '04. Why doesn't KITCO have GOLD as an option in their "Compare to" selections? http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/smilies/300%20%2824%29.gif Anyone know a charting site where we can see gold and USD overlayed?

PatColo
3rd December 2014, 07:42 AM
USD 88.95 atm (http://www.kitco.com/finance/details.html?j1_module=indiceDetail&popup=1&j1_symbol=%24DXY&j1_region=US&j1_selected=chart&_hostparams=&js=1), +0.33 (+0.37%) meanwhile gold is +$13.00 or +1.1%... disconnect :)

Sparky
3rd December 2014, 08:18 AM
And how about all of those predictions of a US Dollar collapse by the end of 2014?

Sparky
3rd December 2014, 08:22 AM
USD 88.95 atm (http://www.kitco.com/finance/details.html?j1_module=indiceDetail&popup=1&j1_symbol=%24DXY&j1_region=US&j1_selected=chart&_hostparams=&js=1), +0.33 (+0.37%) meanwhile gold is +$13.00 or +1.1%... disconnect :)

This is important because it is an indication that gold is becoming a competitor to the USD as a place to protect assets.

gunDriller
3rd December 2014, 09:08 AM
Anyone know a charting site where we can see gold and USD overlayed?

Norcini does this.

http://www.traderdan.com/

http://traderdannorcini.blogspot.com/

you just have to be able to stomach his ranting about the 'GIAMATT' crowd (i've never met a GIAMATT'er).

he's sort of like Denninger. very knowledgeable in his area of specialty.

Neuro
3rd December 2014, 04:38 PM
And how about all of those predictions of a US Dollar collapse by the end of 2014?
Yeah! Maybe they just recruited bagholders, of those who sold their dollars...

PatColo
5th December 2014, 05:54 AM
USD just rocketed to 89.33, +0.72, +0.8%

http://www.kitco.com/finance/details.html?j1_module=indiceDetail&popup=1&j1_symbol=%24DXY&j1_region=US&j1_selected=chart&_hostparams=&js=1

Metals predictably lower, but it's not carnage or anything. :) And Pd is just doing its own thing, as usual this year. :cool:

Cebu_4_2
5th December 2014, 06:03 AM
89.35

EE_
5th December 2014, 06:04 AM
USD just rocketed to 89.33, +0.72, +0.63%

http://www.kitco.com/finance/details.html?j1_module=indiceDetail&popup=1&j1_symbol=%24DXY&j1_region=US&j1_selected=chart&_hostparams=&js=1

Metals predictably lower, but it's not carnage or anything. :) And Pd is just doing its own thing, as usual this year. :cool:

This is the strongest economy I've ever seen.
High end auto manufactures can't pump out $150,000 - $1,000,000 cars fast enough.
Real estate prices in key areas, Silicon Valley, Miami, New York are breaking records into the stratosphere.
Except for China, the US is leaving the rest of the world in the dust.

PatColo
5th December 2014, 06:36 AM
^ and stocks making new highs!

official fake unemployment approaching 5%...

http://www.shadowstats.com/imgs/sgs-emp.gif?hl=ad&t=1417789806


... leaving the more honest ~23% unemployed (http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts) asking, where's the beef? Funny how that blue shadowstats line has trended softly upwards since '10, meanwhile the official fake #s moved together downward. :rolleyes:

EE_
5th December 2014, 06:41 AM
^ and stocks making new highs!

official fake unemployment approaching 5%...

http://www.shadowstats.com/imgs/sgs-emp.gif?hl=ad&t=1417789806


... leaving the more honest ~23% unemployed (http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts) asking, where's the beef? Funny how that blue shadowstats line has trended softly upwards since '10, meanwhile the official fake #s moved together downward. :rolleyes:

I think you are looking at this wrong. The 23% unemployed are no longer part of the economy.
The top 10% ARE the economy! And the economy is booming!