Which nations are the most corrupt?

[Serpo]

America should be last of course.........



http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2014/12/03/world-corruption.cnnmoney/index.html?iid=V_Top

[Cebu_4_2]

What a bunch of shit to feed those that watch televitz and not be interested in hockey.

[Serpo]

What a bunch of shit to feed those that watch televitz and not be interested in hockey.

Insipid interview , like feeding carp.........

[Santa]

Apparently North America is 'beyond' corruption.

[crimethink]

America should be last of course.........



http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2014/12/03/world-corruption.cnnmoney/index.html?iid=V_Top

That "report" is complete horseshit, and I'm not aiming this at you, Serpo.

Any report that does not include America in the top five has utterly failed at even a semblance of accuracy.

[aeondaze]

Why is anyone surprised?


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Sometimes I think you guys forget how deep this thing runs.

They spew horseshit 24/7 every freaking day of the year, why would they stop at this?

[Buddha]

Every country besides "Western" ones... Oh God...

So funny that I forgot to laugh.

[Shami-Amourae]

Here's a more accurate map:

http://bje.org.au/images/maps/jewish_pop_distribution_wikimedia_600px.jpg
World map showing what percentage of each country's population is composed of Jews
(map courtesy of Wikimedia Commons).

[singular_me]

10 years ago, I would have laughed, today I find it way beyond sickening...

[singular_me]

excuse me, a few days ago, you accused many of us of seeing conspiracies everywhere, remember?


Why is anyone surprised?
Sometimes I think you guys forget how deep this thing runs.
They spew horseshit 24/7 every freaking day of the year, why would they stop at this?

[aeondaze]

excuse me, a few days ago, you accused many of us of seeing conspiracies everywhere, remember?

No. I won't excuse your impertinence.

You see conspiracies where they don't exist!

You think its all supernatural/spiritual. I think its political, psychological and social. BIG DIFFERENCE!

Besides, we've been over this a gazillion times. I make it quite clear what I believe and all you seem to do is misrepresent it time and time again, either out of deceit of just plain stupidity.

Personally, I think its a tragic combination of both.

:D

[crimethink]

excuse me, a few days ago, you accused many of us of seeing conspiracies everywhere, remember?

Sometimes they really aren't there.

The thread about Cosby shows that some people see things that don't exist.

Making shit up about "conspiracies" that are not there only serves to discredit real conspiracies that are life-threatening.

[singular_me]

one day you will have to start your own all-happens-out-of-the-blue thread...

why did you write this then: Sometimes I think you guys forget how deep this thing runs. They spew horseshit 24/7 every freaking day of the year, why would they stop at this?

because horseshit isnt disnfo or distraction and that it is the goal of the media... hence a conspiracy ??? ???

aeon, in this thread you really shot yourself in the foot. Or how can you explain that the corruption index doesnt see anything wrong with the USA/EU?


No. I won't excuse your impertinence.

You see conspiracies where they don't exist!

You think its all supernatural/spiritual. I think its political, psychological and social. BIG DIFFERENCE!

Besides, we've been over this a gazillion times. I make it quite clear what I believe and all you seem to do is misrepresent it time and time again, either out of deceit of just plain stupidity.

Personally, I think its a tragic combination of both.

:D

[singular_me]

although the cosby show isnt my cup of tea at all and isnt the subject here, that must be one of the very seldom threads/topic on here/out there ... that doesnt make it true, I am afraid.

so are you saying that the OP isnt the evidence of a conspiracy ???

edit
seems like you really say whatever, CT. I really would like to know how 5% of neutral data would discredit 95% of nefarious conspiracies.




Sometimes they really aren't there.

The thread about Cosby shows that some people see things that don't exist.

Making shit up about "conspiracies" that are not there only serves to discredit real conspiracies that are life-threatening.

[Hatha Sunahara]

I think if you made a chart of the countries with the most dumbed down people, and compare those with the counries in this post you might find that the countries with the most dumbed down people also have the low scores on corruption (i. e. they are perceived as less corrupt). I also have a problem with this data because it doesn't specifically define corruption. When you have a government whose leader habitually lies to the people about important things, and is supported by a privately owned 'ministry of propaganda', that is an undeniably corrupt system. Government corruption in general pales when compared with corruption of private institutions--particularly those that are monopolies or oligopoles, that is, large corporatons and banks.

Hatha

[aeondaze]

one day you will have to start your own all-happens-out-of-the-blue thread...

why did you write this then: Sometimes I think you guys forget how deep this thing runs. They spew horseshit 24/7 every freaking day of the year, why would they stop at this?

because horseshit isnt disnfo or distraction and that it is the goal of the media... hence a conspiracy ??? ???

aeon, in this thread you really shot yourself in the foot. Or how can you explain that the corruption index doesnt see anything wrong with the USA/EU?

I never said there wasn't a global conspiracy, your comprehension is limited at best. The only one shooting themselves in the foot is yourself, and your foot is firmly planted in your mouth! haha

[mick silver]

I know I know I know .... http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=HN.607998250855040638&pid=1.7

[singular_me]

aeon, so why do you call impertinent my assumption based on what you wrote in the first place :) :)

Sometimes I think you guys forget how deep this thing runs. They spew horseshit 24/7 every freaking day of the year, why would they stop at this?

You contradict yourself now, really







I never said there wasn't a global conspiracy, your comprehension is limited at best. The only one shooting themselves in the foot is yourself, and your foot is firmly planted in your mouth! haha

[Glass]

This story is a crock of shit.

Read how independent these guys are and then go and look at who is on the board and where they get they money from:
http://www.transparency.org/whoweare/organisation/faqs_on_transparency_international/9/#howTIFinanced

The whole purpose of this story is to setup "Anti Corruption Commissions" which we all know are just gatekeepers of truth so they can control what we know about the Corruption of our Governments. Its like a Freedom of Information Office. Ministry of Truth. It's complete bunk.

[Hatha Sunahara]

Corruption is a perception, much like 'happiness'. I would presume that it is an affliction of the upper classes in the societies affected by it. It is a disease that specifically afflicts the people who control a society--the people who have power and are in charge of making decisions about policies. If you look at the lower classes in any socirty, you will see that they are not the originators of corruption. If they behave corruptly, it is because thay are forced to by the policies imposed on them by the uppr classes and those who control power in the society. You would be hard pressed to make an arguent that the slaves in any society are corrupt. The essence of corruption is being aware of the 'right' and responsible things to do, and deliberately doing otherwise for selfish reasons, knowing that you can get away with it because 'authority' is looking the other way. In America, we don't recognize that corruption exists. We avoid using the wordwhen describing what people do. For example, we have had an Attorney General that refuses to prosecute fraud committed by banksters because he says they are too big to jail. He claims to fear that prosecuting the banksters would cause irreparable damage to the economy. Nobody is blunt enough to tell him that failure to prosecute the banksters will destroy te economy more surely than letting thm gat away with their frauds. The people who control the money are the originators of all the corruption world-wide. We seem to conveniently not understand that political correctness is the worst form of corruption because it causes us to not resist the corruption of people in power. We know if we resist these powerful people, bad things will happen to us. We also hope to be rewarded for going along with the people in power. By this definition, we in America have the most corrupt system on earth. And it isn't any less severe in the rest of the English Speaking World. I once thought that one of the strongholds resisting corruption were the military services. But that is only because the military services equate 'honor' with conformity and obedience.. I have begun to see how the upper ranks of the military deliberately confuse obedience to the politicians and owners of America with 'love of country' --that is, patriotism. They will follow orders that their oaths to defend the constitution of the United States would keep them from following. If that is not a form of corruption, then I don't knoow what is. I also think that corruption starts with language. When you start to corrupt the meaning of words, it is like termites eating the wood in your house. At some point, the words mean nothing, and all goodness is destroyed, and what is left is mental rot that won't support anything real.Corruption is the exact opposite of integrity. If no one in power has any integrity, it is virtually impossible to pretend that they have it. When corruption takes over, it turns us all into prophets. We all know the whole system is going to crash, but we just don't knoe exactly when. Rome managed to hold things together for more than 300 years while suffering a bad case of systemic corruption. I suspect that was because there was some order to it's corruption, and there was no stronger order around that could replace that corrupt order until the Catholic Church amassed sufficient power to allow Rome to enter the dust heap. I suspect that is what is happening to America right now. The world is reassessing it's definiyion of virtue, and it looks like Russai and China, and even Germany seem to present the world with a convincing picture of virtue as they amass power whil America loses power. The media establishment that put together this list of corrupt countries needs to have someone hold a mirror in front of it so it might have a chance to look at itself while it is calling other systems corrupt.


Hatha

[Santa]

Follow the money.

[singular_me]

Hatha, I always like to read your say.

I think it all boils down to the masses in the end. They understand the problem with power but they just wont to take responsibility as the idea of it is much too overwhelming. They keep waiting for a whatever savior but it wont materialize as the laws of karma are inescapable.

As long as masses are given the impression that they are relatively free, they will cope with a certain amount of corruption. This gullible trait has a huge upside though, most people want peace. Thats a duality.

[gunDriller]

Follow the money.

it seems like the United States is the most corrupt.

but then, i live in the US.


maybe people generally believe the most corrupt nation is -
A/ where they live, because they have witnessed the corruption
B/ wherever they hear about in the MSM as being corrupt.


it would make an interesting study. it probably has been studied.

https://www.google.com/search?q=sociology+pHD+corruption+study

"This case study can be used for classroom teaching. It focuses on Tony ... His doctoral thesis deals with corruption, law, and compliance."

http://www.icgg.org/corruption.research.html

[Hatha Sunahara]

You have to know what virtue and integrity are to understand corruption. It's like good and evil-one does not exist without the other.

Hatha

[crimethink]

Corruption is a perception....The essence of corruption is being aware of the 'right' and responsible things to do, and deliberately doing otherwise for selfish reasons, knowing that you can get away with it because 'authority' is looking the other way. In America, we don't recognize that corruption exists.

Americans do recognize corruption, and willfully participate in it. It's not a matter of not recognizing it - it's a matter of simply denying it.

[Hatha Sunahara]

Americans do recognize corruption, and willfully participate in it. It's not a matter of not recognizing it - it's a matter of simply denying it.

Precisely what I meant. Americans for the most part are forced into participation in corruption by virtue of following 'political correctness' signals.


Hatha