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5th December 2014, 09:35 PM

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http://cdn.breitbart.com/mediaserver/Breitbart/Columnists/Headshots-80x100/bb-contributor-80x100-myiannopoulos.png"My generation of boys is f**ked," says Rupert, a young German video game enthusiast I've been getting to know over the past few months. "Marriage is dead. (http://www.politifact.com/new-jersey/statements/2012/feb/20/stephen-sweeney/steve-sweeney-claims-more-two-thirds-marriages-end/) Divorce means you're screwed for life. Women have given up on monogamy, which makes them uninteresting to us for any serious relationship or raising a family. That's just the way it is. Even if we take the risk, chances are the kids won't be ours. (http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/06/the-paternity-myth-the-rarity-of-cuckoldry/) In France, we even have to pay for the kids a wife has through adulterous affairs. (http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/france-upholds-the-ban-on-paternity-tests/)

"In school, boys are screwed over time and again. Schools are engineered for women (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/eliminating-feminist-teacher-bias-erases-boys-falling-grades-study-finds). In the US, they force-feed boys Ritalin like Skittles to shut them up. And while girls are favoured to fulfil quotas (http://imgur.com/0sFuc8d), men are slipping into distant second place.

"Nobody in my generation believes they're going to get a meaningful retirement. We have a third or a quarter of the wealth previous generations had (http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2011/11/07/the-rising-age-gap-in-economic-well-being/), and everyone's fleeing to higher education to stave off unemployment and poverty because there are no jobs.

"All that wouldn't be so bad if we could at least dull the pain with girls. But we're treated like paedophiles and potential rapists just for showing interest. My generation are the beautiful ones (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Calhoun#Mouse_experiments)," he sighs, referring to a 1960s experiment on mice that supposedly predicted a grim future for the human race.

After overpopulation ran out of control, the female mice in John Calhoun's "mouse universe" experiment stopped breeding, and the male mice withdrew from the company of others entirely, eating, sleeping, feeding and grooming themselves but doing little else. They had shiny coats, but empty lives.

"The parallels are astounding," says Rupert.

*
Never before in history have relations between the sexes been so fraught with anxiety, animosity and misunderstanding. To radical feminists, who have been the driving force behind many tectonic societal shifts in recent decades, that's a sign of success: they want to tear down the institutions and power structures that underpin society, never mind the fall-out. Nihilistic destruction is part of their road map.

But, for the rest of us, the sight of society breaking down, and ordinary men and women being driven into separate but equal misery, thanks to a small but highly organised group of agitators, is distressing. Particularly because, as increasing numbers of social observers are noticing, an entire generation of young people—mostly men—are being left behind in the wreckage of this social engineering project.

Social commentators, journalists, academics, scientists and young men themselves have all spotted the trend: among men of about 15 to 30 years old, ever-increasing numbers are checking out of society altogether, giving up on women, sex and relationships and retreating into pornography, sexual fetishes, chemical addictions, video games and, in some cases, boorish lad culture, all of which insulate them from a hostile, debilitating social environment created, some argue, by the modern feminist movement.

You can hardly blame them. Cruelly derided as man-children and crybabies for objecting to absurdly unfair conditions in college, bars, clubs and beyond, men are damned if they do and damned if they don't: ridiculed as basement-dwellers for avoiding aggressive, demanding women with unrealistic expectations, or called rapists and misogynists merely for expressing sexual interest.

Jack Rivlin is editor-in-chief of student tabloid media start-up The Tab (http://kernelmag.dailydot.com/features/interview/3923/moguls-aspirant/), a runaway success whose current strap-line reads: "We'll stop writing it when you stop reading it." As the guiding intelligence behind over 30 student newspapers, Rivlin is perhaps the best-placed person in the country to observe this trend in action. And he agrees that the current generation of young men find it particularly difficult to engage with women.

"Teenage boys always have been useless with girls, but there's definitely a fear that now being well-intentioned isn't enough, and you can get into trouble just for being clumsy," he says. "For example, leaning in for a kiss might see you branded a creep, rather than just inept."

The new rules men are expected to live by are never clearly explained, says Rivlin, leaving boys clueless and neurotic about interacting with girls. "That might sound like a good thing because it encourages men to take the unromantic but practical approach of asking women how they should behave, but it causes a lot of them to just opt out of the game and retreat to the sanctuary of their groups of lads, where being rude to women gets you approval, and you can pretty much entirely avoid one-on-one socialising with the opposite sex."

"There are also a lot of blokes who ignore women because they are scared and don't know how to act. It goes without saying that boys who never spend any time alone with women are not very good at relationships."

Rivlin has noticed the increased dependence on substances, normally alcohol, that boys are using to calm their nerves. "I've heard a lot of male students boast about never having experienced sober sex," he says. "They're obviously scared, which is natural, but they would be a lot less scared and dysfunctional if they understood 'the rules.'"

The result? "A lot of nice but awkward young men are opting out of approaching women because there is no opportunity for them to make mistakes without suffering worse embarrassment than ever."

Most troublingly, this effect is felt more acutely among poorer and less well educated communities, where the package of support resources available to young men is slight. At my alma mater, the University of Cambridge, the phenomenon barely registers on the radar, according to Union society president Tim Squirrell.

"I don't think I've really noticed a change recently," he says. "This year has seen the introduction of mandatory consent workshops for freshers, which I believe is probably a good thing, and there's been a big effort by the Women's Campaign in particular to try and combat lad culture on campus.

The atmosphere here is the same as it was a year ago - mostly nerdy guys who are too afraid to approach anyone in the first place, and then a smaller percentage who are confident enough to make a move. Obviously women have agency too, and they approach men in about the same numbers as they do elsewhere. There certainly haven't been any stories in [campus newspaper] The Tab about a sex drought on campus."

"I think that people are probably having as much sex as ever," he adds. At Cambridge, of course, that may not mean much, and for a variety of socioeconomic and class-based reasons the tribes at Oxford and Cambridge are somewhat insulated from the male drop-out effect.

But even at such a prestigious university with a largely middle- and upper-class population, those patronising, mandatory "consent" classes are still being implemented. Squirrell, who admits to being a feminist with left-of-centre politics, thinks they're a good idea. But academics such as Camille Paglia have been warning for years (http://time.com/3444749/camille-paglia-the-modern-campus-cannot-comprehend-evil/) that "rape drives" on campus put women at greater risk, if anything (http://dailycaller.com/2014/09/30/camille-paglia-gloriously-smacks-down-feminists-unserious-campus-rape-drivel/).

Women today are schooled in victimhood, taught to be aggressively vulnerable and convinced that the slightest of perceived infractions, approaches or clumsy misunderstandings represents "assault," "abuse" or "harassment." That may work in the safe confines of campus, where men can have their academic careers destroyed on the mere say-so of a female student.

But, according to Paglia, when that women goes out into the real world without the safety net of college rape committees, she is left totally unprepared for the sometimes violent reality of male sexuality. And the panics and fear-mongering are serving men even more poorly. All in all, education is becoming a miserable experience for boys.

*
In schools today across Britain and America, boys are relentlessly pathologised (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFpYj0E-yb4), as academics were warning as long ago as 2001 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-War-Against-Boys-Misguided/dp/0684849577). Boyishness and boisterousness have come to be seen as "problematic," with girls' behaviour a gold standard against which these defective boys are measured. When they are found wanting, the solution is often drugs.

One in seven American boys will be diagnosed with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) (http://www.esquire.com/features/drugging-of-the-american-boy-0414)at some point in their school career. Millions will be prescribed a powerful mood stabiliser, such as Ritalin, for the crime of being born male. The side effects of these drugs (http://www.esquire.com/features/drugging-of-the-american-boy-0414) can be hideous and include sudden death.

Meanwhile, boys are falling behind girls academically, perhaps because relentless and well-funded focus has been placed on girls' achievement in the past few decades and little to none on the boys who are now achieving lower grades, fewer honors, fewer degrees and less marketable information economy skills. Boys' literacy, in particular, is in crisis throughout the West. We've been obsessing so much over girls, we haven't noticed that boys have slipped into serious academic trouble.

So what happened to those boys who, in 2001, were falling behind girls at school, were less likely to go to college, were being given drugs they did not need and whose self-esteem and confidence issues haven't just been ignored, but have been actively ridiculed by the feminist Establishment that has such a stranglehold on teaching unions and Left-leaning political parties?

In short: they grew up, dysfunctional, under-served by society, deeply miserable and, in many cases, entirely unable to relate to the opposite sex. It is the boys who were being betrayed by the education system and by culture at large in such vast numbers between 1990 and 2010 who represent the first generation of what I call the sexodus, a large-scale exit from mainstream society by males who have decided they simply can't face, or be bothered with, forming healthy relationships and participating fully in their local communities, national democracies and other real-world social structures.

A second sexodus generation is gestating today, potentially with even greater damage being done to them by the onset of absurd, unworkable, prudish and downright misandrist laws (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/10/02/Everywhere-you-look-sex-is-being-regulated-and-sanitised-We-should-stop-this-nannying-Puritanism) such as California's "Yes Means Yes" legislation—and by third-wave feminism, which dominates newspapers like the Guardian and new media companies like Vox and Gawker, but which is currently enjoying a hysterical last gasp before women themselves reject it by an even greater margin than the present 4 out of 5 women who say they want nothing to do with the dreaded f-word (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/16/feminism-poll_n_3094917.html).

*
The sexodus didn't arrive out of nowhere, and the same pressures that have forced so many millennials out of society exert pressure on their parent's generation, too. One professional researcher in his late thirties, about whom I have been conversing on this topic for some months, puts it spicily: "For the past, at least, 25 years, I've been told to do more and more to keep a woman. But nobody's told me what they're doing to keep me.
"I can tell you as a heterosexual married male in management, who didn’t drop out of society, the message from the chicks is: 'It's not just preferable that you should fuck off, but imperative. You must pay for everything and make everything work; but you yourself and your preferences and needs can fuck off and die.'"

Women have been sending men mixed messages for the last few decades, leaving boys utterly confused about what they are supposed to represent to women, which perhaps explains the strong language some of them use when describing their situation. As the role of breadwinner has been taken away from them by women who earn more and do better in school, men are left to intuit what to do, trying to find a virtuous mean between what women say they want and what they actually pursue, which can be very different things.

Men say the gap between what women say and what they do has never been wider. Men are constantly told they should be delicate, sensitive fellow travellers on the feminist path. But the same women who say they want a nice, unthreatening boyfriend go home and swoon over simple-minded, giant-chested, testosterone-saturated hunks in Game of Thrones. Men know this, and, for some, this giant inconsistency makes the whole game look too much like hard work. Why bother trying to work out what a woman wants, when you can play sports, masturbate or just play video games from the comfort of your bedroom?

Jack Donovan, a writer based in Portland who has written several books on men and masculinity, each of which has become a cult hit (http://www.amazon.com/Jack-Donovan/e/B007LF4QJS/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1?qid=1417688645&sr=8-1), says the phenomenon is already endemic among the adult population. "I do see a lot of young men who would otherwise be dating and marrying giving up on women," he explains, "Or giving up on the idea of having a wife and family. This includes both the kind of men who would traditionally be a little awkward with women, and the kind of men who aren't awkward with women at all.

"They've done a cost-benefit analysis and realised it is a bad deal. They know that if they invest in a marriage and children, a woman can take all of that away from them on a whim. So they use apps like Tinder and OK Cupid to find women to have protected sex with and resign themselves to being 'players,' or when they get tired of that, 'boyfriends.'"

He goes on: "Almost all young men have attended mandatory sexual harassment and anti-rape seminars, and they know that they can be fired, expelled or arrested based more or less on the word of any woman. They know they are basically guilty until proven innocent in most situations."

Donovan lays much of the blame for the way men feel at the door of the modern feminist movement and what he sees as its disingenuousness. "The young men who are struggling the most are conflicted because they are operating under the assumption that feminists are arguing in good faith," he says, "When in fact they are engaged in a zero-sum struggle for sexual, social, political and economic status—and they're winning.

"The media now allows radical feminists to frame all debates, in part because sensationalism attracts more clicks than any sort of fair or balanced discourse. Women can basically say anything about men, no matter how denigrating, to a mix of cheers and jeers."

That has certainly been the experience of several loose coalitions of men in the media recently, whether scientists outraged by feminist denunciations of Dr Matt Taylor (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/11/15/Brilliant-anti-feminist-spoof-claims-space-scientist-s-shirt-is-sexist), or video gamers campaigning under the banner of press ethics who saw their movement smeared as a misogynistic hate group by mendacious, warring feminists (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/09/01/Lying-Greedy-Promiscuous-Feminist-Bullies-are-Tearing-the-Video-Game-Industry-Apart) and so-called "social justice warriors".

Donovan has views on why it has been so easy for feminists to triumph in media battles. "Because men instinctively want to protect women and play the hero, if a man writes even a tentative criticism of women or feminism, he's denounced by men and women alike as some kind of extremist scoundrel. The majority of "men's studies" and "men's rights" books and blogs that aren't explicitly pro-feminist are littered with apologies to women.

"Books like The Myth of Male Power and sites like A Voice for Men are favourite boogeymen of feminists, but only because they call out feminists' one-sided hypocrisy when it comes to pursing 'equality.'"

Unlike modern feminists, who are driving a wedge between the sexes, Men's Rights Activists "actually seem to want sexual equality," he says. But men's studies authors and male academics are constantly tip-toeing around and making sure they don't appear too radical. Their feminine counterparts have no such forbearance, of course, with what he calls "hipster feminists," such as the Guardian's Jessica Valenti (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/08/12/Guardianistas-are-demanding-free-tampons-on-the-taxpayer-Where-do-I-send-my-wish-list) parading around in t-shirts that read: "I BATHE IN MALE TEARS."

"I'm a critic of feminism," says Donovan. "But I would never walk around wearing a shirt that says, "I MAKE WOMEN CRY." I'd just look like a jerk and a bully."

It's the contention of academics, sociologists and writers like Jack Donovan that an atmosphere of relentless, jeering hostility to men from entitled middle-class media figures, plus a few confused male collaborators in the feminist project, has been at least partly responsible for a generation of boys who simply don't want to know.

In Part 2, we'll meet some of the men who have "checked out," given up on sex and relationships and sunk into solitary pursuits or alcohol-fuelled lad culture. And we'll discover that the real victims of modern feminism are, of course, women themselves, who have been left lonelier and less satisfied than they have ever been.

Some names have been changed.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/12/04/The-Sexodus-Part-1-The-Men-Giving-Up-On-Women-And-Checking-Out-Of-Society

old steel

5th December 2014, 10:14 PM

Far out man.

Hitch

5th December 2014, 10:24 PM

Fuck it Dude, let's go bowling.

EE_

5th December 2014, 10:26 PM

Pretty sad and a lot of this is true.

The manipulators have been engineering the destruction of society for as long as I can remember.
TV programming that show males as worthless boobs, fathers that are idiots, shows where the big laughs were seeing men get hit in the balls.

Laws made to always put the male on the wrong end of the stick and feminist agenda schooling.

Men/boys have always been portrayed as disposable. Society doesn't care about seeing so many men being killed in wars, or in dangerous jobs.

I feel for these guys that have lost hope. Maybe they should get out there with their disposable black brothers and vent their rage on society? At least the blacks still have the balls to destroy and burn things.
I'm glad I don't have to grow up in the world we have today.

Who's responsible for this destruction of male/female relationships? The Muslims? Christians?
Or could it be the liberal atheist Jews again that dominate law, television programming/media and education?

http://archive.4chon.net/meta/259821/src_1366407098412.png

Hitch

5th December 2014, 10:33 PM

Men/boys have always been portrayed as disposable. Society doesn't care about seeing so many men being killed in wars, or in dangerous jobs.

EE, to some extent, it's always been that way. The difference is, that society recognized the loss of those men and at least they were honored back then. Nowadays, they aren't even honored.

EE_

5th December 2014, 10:42 PM

EE, to some extent, it's always been that way. The difference is, that society recognized the loss of those men and at least they were honored back then. Nowadays, they aren't even honored.

Do you remember the TV show back I think in the 80's I think it was called Funniest Home Videos. Every week there was part of the show where men got kicked/kneed/hit/punched in the balls by something or someone, followed by big canned laughter.

I knew there was something really wrong that only males getting hurt like that was supposed to be funny.

Earlier TV shows had strong male role models. I think by the 80's they all got replaced with guys like Al Bundy.

aeondaze

5th December 2014, 10:58 PM

EE_

5th December 2014, 11:06 PM

This whole thing is engineered.

The joo-controlers are afraid of the inherent power that organized men can wield.

The majority of media mouth-piece feminists ore jooish. Who supports the feminist movement? Elite joosh money.

The irony is that in Jooish culture, its the complete opposite! Men tell woman what to wear, how to behave and set the agenda. Married Jooish woman aren't even allowed to show their real hair when in public!

Jooish men reserve the right to be dominant for themselves but will do everything in their power to deny that for the goyim. This is what got us here plain and simple.

It is racial warfare, and western European men are loosing the battle. Its frustrating to see all these talking heads identify the problem at hand and not see what caused it.

Time and time again people fail to perform even the most rudimentary due diligence in regards to these social problems.

All one needs to do is find out who is setting the social dialectic (radical jooish feminists) and follow the money (elite jooish funding).

Look today at all the leading men in TV, Men/women voted most sexiest of the year, the most interesting man in the world, men/women in high places...they are predominately Jews. The last couple presidents Bush/Clinton daughters have even married Jews. Are we sure there's only 1.7% Jews in this country?

I can hardly wait to see how Hillary will finish this country off regarding feminist women and worthless men, when she becomes the next president of the US/Israel.

Shami-Amourae

5th December 2014, 11:21 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2Ts0qBTJu4

YouTube commentary on the article.

aeondaze

5th December 2014, 11:35 PM

Look today at all the leading men in TV, Men/women voted most sexiest of the year, the most interesting man in the world, men/women in high places...they are predominately Jews. The last couple presidents Bush/Clinton daughters have even married Jews. Are we sure there's only 1.7% Jews in this country?

I can hardly wait to see how Hillary will finish this country off regarding feminist women and worthless men, when she becomes the next president of the US/Israel.

And its not just in the entertainment industry, its in EVERY freaking section of society.

Architects, scientists, engineers, doctors. Anyone who is lauded are tribe members.

I've lost count of how many Australian documentaries I've watched about local luminaries in various fields, that when I've got online and delved a little deeper I find out their all members of the tribe.

I know a lot of professionals in fields like finance, accountancy, engineering, research you name it. When I ask them who holds the senior positions nine times out of ten its someone with a heeb surname. They are in plague proportions at the top of every single sector of life in this country and I bet its the same everywhere across the western world.

They are NEVER just some dude who works in an office or some laborer working onsite, its ALWAYS in a senior position, even if they are only a 25 yo.

Rarely do I bring it up, but I've had occasion to in certain social circles where people I know from various fields coincidentally confirm their seniors are heebs, then I look at them and mention the coincidence, you should the looks on their faces, eyes start darting all around, an eerie silence that's deafening descends, I would love to say to them, "thats right bitch boys, the heebs are your masters aren't they?" I never do...maybe one day.

EE_

5th December 2014, 11:37 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2Ts0qBTJu4

YouTube commentary on the article.

I feel bad for you too Shami, you can relate and have given up.
It's sad you may never experience new love. I guess the risk isn't worth the gain?

EE_

5th December 2014, 11:50 PM

And its not just in the entertainment industry, its in EVERY freaking section of society.

Architects, scientists, engineers, doctors. Anyone who is lauded are tribe members.

I've lost count of how many Australian documentaries I've watched about local luminaries in various fields, that when I've got online and delved a little deeper I find out their all members of the tribe.

I know a lot of professionals in fields like finance, accountancy, engineering, research you name it. When I ask them who holds the senior positions nine times out of ten its someone with a heeb surname. They are in plague proportions at the top of every single sector of life in this country and I bet its the same everywhere across the western world.

They are NEVER just some dude who works in an office or some laborer working onsite, its ALWAYS in a senior position, even if they are only a 25 yo.

Rarely do I bring it up, but I've had occasion to in certain social circles where people I know from various fields coincidentally confirm their seniors are heebs, then I look at them and mention the coincidence, you should the looks on their faces, eyes start darting all around, an eerie silence that's deafening descends, I would love to say to them, "thats right bitch boys, the heebs are your masters aren't they?" I never do...maybe one day.

Pretty amazing so many people, even a few on this site can't see the 6 million pound elephant in the room.
Jewish nepotism, Jewish money and Jewish determination has allowed them to rule.

Shami-Amourae

5th December 2014, 11:52 PM

I feel bad for you too Shami, you can relate and have given up.
It's sad you may never experience new love. I guess the risk isn't worth the gain?

I gave up before I became an adult. I saw what was happening early on. I like to have virtual relationships in virtual worlds, but keep it there, and limited to there. I have a very elaborate imagination so I've been able to substitute the emotions through the virtual over the real life stuff (which I have done mind you.) The virtual world I spend time in there's a ton of people who do what I do but also sometimes some of them hook up in real life and end up very happy. If I ever hook up with a woman in real life she will literally be my slave. That's the only way I can ensure she isn't going to destroy me since the law bends in womens' favor always.

A friend of mine ended up meeting one of his slave girls from the virtual world in real life. Now they are married with a kid and seem extremely happy. I sometimes think if I'm going to meet anyone worthwhile in real life I'm in the right place, as crazy as that sounds. That's one of many examples since many of my close friends have met and fallen in love with people from the game, usually through the D/s thing since many people have the same outlook I do as I mentioned above in the game.

Honestly though, I'm not searching for relationships. I love being alone. I think I trained myself mentally to feel that way to keep sane.

crimethink

5th December 2014, 11:55 PM

crimethink

6th December 2014, 12:00 AM

Architects, scientists, engineers, doctors. Anyone who is lauded are tribe members.

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/040/b/a/albert_einstein_poster_by_dimuthu93-d5ubiqo.jpg

Max Planck was far more brilliant than Einstein, yet the Tribesman is portrayed as the quintessence of brilliance.

crimethink

6th December 2014, 12:04 AM

aeondaze

6th December 2014, 12:09 AM

The most basic unit of (good) government is the nuclear family. Destroy it, and you can have your way with a people.

All the malevolent "isms" - Marxism, Feminism, Interracism (anti-White racism) - are thoroughly Kosher. It's all been a strategy for power. At this point, there is no reversing it except by unimaginable trauma, an apocalypse, where social norms are reset to where they should be.

You know I used to hold out hope that reason would eventually prevail, but as EE_ said, they cannot bring themselves to identify the cause no matter how in your face it is.

I guess its symptomatic of the depth of the programming we've all been exposed to. Only a select number firstly have the intellect to seek out the cause, and out of those only the brave few fess up and admit that is where the problems stem from.

So reluctantly I have to agree with you CT. It would now be a very painful affair to right the wrong.

I do feel a real empathy for young boys growing up nowadays. Strangely enough all my siblings have boys, as do I, sometimes I find myself staring at them wondering if they'll ever figure it out, or if they have enough gumption to accept the problem when told. Its actually a really visceral feeling for me, I strikes me to my core as I know how much contempt these people have for our kind.

aeondaze

6th December 2014, 12:12 AM

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/040/b/a/albert_einstein_poster_by_dimuthu93-d5ubiqo.jpg

Max Planck was far more brilliant than Einstein, yet the Tribesman is portrayed as the quintessence of brilliance.

I agree, and there are tons, James Mawell is another, a true genius I hold in the greatest regard.

aeondaze

6th December 2014, 12:16 AM

This ones for you Shami, I love this song, I only just discovered it, its a real gem...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3q_SchLR0I

crimethink

6th December 2014, 12:18 AM

I agree, and there are tons, James Mawell is another, a true genius I hold in the greatest regard.

Indeed! The Scots have given the world far more than their share of scientists & engineers.

aeondaze

6th December 2014, 12:25 AM

Indeed! The Scots have given the world far more than their share of scientists & engineers.

The mother of my children is Scottish Kiwi and is a scientist as well!

vacuum

6th December 2014, 12:55 AM

I gave up before I became an adult. I saw what was happening early on. I like to have virtual relationships in virtual worlds, but keep it there, and limited to there. I have a very elaborate imagination so I've been able to substitute the emotions through the virtual over the real life stuff (which I have done mind you.) The virtual world I spend time in there's a ton of people who do what I do but also sometimes some of them hook up in real life and end up very happy. If I ever hook up with a woman in real life she will literally be my slave. That's the only way I can ensure she isn't going to destroy me since the law bends in womens' favor always.

A friend of mine ended up meeting one of his slave girls from the virtual world in real life. Now they are married with a kid and seem extremely happy. I sometimes think if I'm going to meet anyone worthwhile in real life I'm in the right place, as crazy as that sounds. That's one of many examples since many of my close friends have met and fallen in love with people from the game, usually through the D/s thing since many people have the same outlook I do as I mentioned above in the game.

Honestly though, I'm not searching for relationships. I love being alone. I think I trained myself mentally to feel that way to keep sane.

I'm sure you don't want to see it this way, see yourself this way, but you are a war casualty. A casualty in the War on Humans by the servants of the Devil, led by his officer corps, the Jews.

You are afraid of the joys God ("Nature" if you insist) designed you for, in being a family man. That is not an indictment on your character; it's an observation on the anti-human system "they" have established. I understand your fears. I am very sad. I know you are not a lone case, by any means.

There are two aspects to all these problems discussed in the article and above.

One is maliciousness, and the other is ignorance.

The maliciousness is the social engineering through the use of feminism to break down and control a population. I think everyone here has a fairly good grasp of that.

But there is also ignorance present which created the original flaws which are maliciously being exploited.

The ignorance is of the nature of the relationship between men and women. There are two underlying and opposing dynamics present in such a relationship. First is the mating dynamic which drives reproduction. Our DNA only cares about it's own propagation. We as individuals are only vehicles for the DNA to perfect itself over time. It doesn't care about our feelings. Men and women have different sexual strategies based on this programming. For men, it is to mate with as many females as possible. For women, its to mate with the dominate male while obtaining beta provider to pay for everything. She will only provide the absolute minimum amount of sex that the beta provider will accept in return for taking care of her. Even if she locks down the dominate man all to herself, over time she will break him down into a beta provider if he doesn't constantly prove his dominance. For our DNA to get the best possible traits, it fights monogamy. Once a child is old enough to be somewhat autonomous, about 4 years old, couples (usually women) are programmed to end the relationship and seek another. So this is all just classic optimal mating behavior/game theory. Emotions and feelings aren't a factor here, because they don't matter to your DNA.

The second dynamic is that of bonding, which, unlike mating, is designed to be permanent. This usually happens between parents and children, and among family members. Unlike the inherently selfish mating program, the bonding program is unselfish. Usually the bonding program runs earlier to bring couples together for a few years, and then the mating program wins out and breaks them apart.

Long-term married couples are sometimes able to defy this and have a good relationship for a long time. What this generally means is that sex isn't happening. Either one of the partners is always making excuses or one is always working or traveling or whatever, conviently it stops.

In other words, orgasm triggers the mating behavior and associated conflict. Which is normal. In a situation where you're having kids a lot of natural mechanisms kick in to make sure things don't go wrong. You have inherent conflict which drives you forward, you have established religions to guide you down the known path to make sure your kids become productive.

Chastity is what avoids the problems associated with mating. This is why it is the path to higher spiritual traditions and teachings, because it does away with all the effort and struggle and resulting arms buildup between sexes.

Some religious traditions therefore say that certain people can't take a wife. But then another issue arises, and that is that men and women who are seperate have overal less potential than those who are together. The reason for this is simple. The polarization of masculine and feminine functions is what drives conciousness to grow. Here, I definine masculine and feminine in abstract ways. Masculine is anything that interacts with the outside world. Feminine is anything that maintains or handles the inside world. For an individual for example, the masculine components would be the left brain and body parts adapted to interact with the outside world, whereas the feminine components would handle internal bodily functions and creativity. An individual is a concious entity, and like any concious entitity, needs both masculine and feminine parts. Well a man and woman together as a couple can form a concious entity which is not human per se, but a notch higher. That's what a "marriage" is supposed to be, from a spiritual perspective. But that only happens if they polarize masculine and feminine functions between them, and don't destroy it through orgasm. This is where the whole chivalry/chastity/purity ideas from the holy grail came from.

Hillbilly

6th December 2014, 01:27 AM

aeondaze

6th December 2014, 01:30 AM

Did you write that yourself Vac, if so well done!

A+ for you.

vacuum

6th December 2014, 01:41 AM

Thanks. I've done some reading on this subject.

PatColo

6th December 2014, 02:01 AM

yeah but ~100 years ago,
Nikola Tesla - "Mr. Tesla Explains Why He Will Never Marry (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?61658-Nikola-Tesla-The-Greatest-Geek-Who-Ever-Lived&p=742142#post742142)"

This "happier abroad" dude is all about finding your lady in the non-western world... I got issues with all his blanket criticism of the US (IE, women/EVERYONE are ALL A/B/C, thus you CAN'T find/do X/Y/Z in the US...), and painting a black-vs-white picture about how different it all is abroad... but as long as you just hear his core pitch once and not 10 times repeated in the same interview/article/whatever, his shtick will resonate with most single western men... and he's a chubby, now early 40s chinese-'mukan! :P This is 2 hrs, but closer to 1.5 after the breaks, Jim Fetzer interviews happierabroad.com (http://happierabroad.com/) guy:

Monday, August 18, 2014

Winston Wu (http://nwopodcast.com/fetz/media/jim%20fetzer%20real%20deal-winston%20wu%20re%20america.mp3) < mp3

Multiple perspectives on America

Posted by Total at 9:15 PM 24 comments: (http://radiofetzer.blogspot.com/2014/08/winston-wu.html#comment-form)

singular_me

6th December 2014, 04:26 AM

Vacuum's post is the evidence that ignorance is used to implement an agenda.

Sexuality/Orgasm is metaphysical topic above all. And the goal of the porn industry is to deter from learning this, keeping humans in animal-low level vibrations/frequencies.

this is a pendulum in full swing.... right, left... left, right...

while there is for sure an agenda to destroy the family unit, we have to look back into time and recognize that females have been suppressed/oppressed for centuries (patriarchy, left brain society) , and such facts are highly convincing to implement feminism.... (matriarchy, right brained society)... balance is what we need to fix this.

the day people learn that extremes are never good, that they exacerbate polarities which make them highly manipulable , they will no longer respond to whatever PTB agendas.

Women today are schooled in victimhood... you are a war casualty. A casualty in the War on Humans by the servants of the Devil, led by his officer corps, the Jews.

Men should guard themselves not to fall for the victimhood syndrome, doing so is keeping the pendulum in full swing :) a left brain society, isnt adequate either, is as much dysfunctional as a right brained society.

Everything (thoughts included) is physics applied, hence the insightful quote as my sig. Everything is a mind over matter conundrum to teach us the laws of equilibrium. Blaming a specific group or fighting among each other will not resolve a thing. However oppression of women has existed in ALL cultures.

singular_me

6th December 2014, 05:01 AM

this is exactly what my book is about, but using the laws of physics, hence metaphysics, to make my point. :)

Not approaching marriage but elaborating on the "sexed universe" and guidelines to respect the masculine-feminine equilibrium.

the Orgasm is the Force that perpetually creates our Universe. And not grasping this morphs this Force into "a power game", in which both sides of the fence, men and women, are hurting themselves. The PTBs have always exploited gender conflicts.

VACUUM: The polarization of masculine and feminine functions is what drives conciousness to grow. Here, I definine masculine and feminine in abstract ways. Masculine is anything that interacts with the outside world. Feminine is anything that maintains or handles the inside world. For an individual for example, the masculine components would be the left brain and body parts adapted to interact with the outside world, whereas the feminine components would handle internal bodily functions and creativity. An individual is a concious entity, and like any concious entitity, needs both masculine and feminine parts. Well a man and woman together as a couple can form a concious entity which is not human per se, but a notch higher. That's what a "marriage" is supposed to be, from a spiritual perspective. But that only happens if they polarize masculine and feminine functions between them, and don't destroy it through orgasm. This is where the whole chivalry/chastity/purity ideas from the holy grail came from.

brosil

6th December 2014, 05:43 AM

I've been tracking this phenomenon since I noticed it among some relatives in 2004. There's a Purdue study that I haven't found but is referenced on other sites that claims 22% of straight males in the 18-28 age have given up on women. If true, this is a huge societal shift. What you have to remember is that systems correct themselves. Right now, the fems are exhorting young girls to get a career and marry later on at 40, then have kids. Women's peak fertility is 28 and drops off fast. By 40, medical intervention to get pregnant is pretty much a given.
Let's let the ladies go first. They build a career and hit 40. Now, they look for a mate. Any takers? Not so much. They're crones by that age. You're not going to build a family with them. They might get a 60-70 year old interested but that's about it.
Now the guys. They're going to be divided into slackers playing Call Of Duty in their basement hide-a-way or guys who have been accumulating wealth for 20 years. Let's say the well off decide that they have everything else and decide to start a family. Are they going to looking for an infertile 40 year old? No, they'll be hunting the early 20s range and they'll have the cash to do it with.
The 40 year old women are doomed. If you're going into medicine, plastic surgeon would be a good choice. There's going to be a lot of work needed to make old women look younger. Suicide counselor would be a good choice as well.
Remember that 75% of the population will be living normal lives. It's only the women who bought into feminism that will fail. Young ladies in the future will say" Auntie Ethel has built her own business and is worth billions but lives in her big house with 40 cats and will never have a real family. Maybe we should take a different path." The System corrects.

singular_me

6th December 2014, 05:45 AM

the human species is a mammal but not an animal, all those experiments may offer some explanations that may seem correct but which ultimately will be proven wrong as our level of consciousness/awareness is not the same.

The PBTs will always do anything to have us stuck into low levels of consciousness, prompting animal-like responses from the masses, to justify their means and why we need them/a government.

The idea that society needs to be contained rests on philosophical and scientific flaws.

Did anyone read the research done on the mice? the beutiful ones??? that was dead on!

It totally explains the rise of the metrosexual and everything that is happening to our country and where it ends is not good!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Calhoun#Mouse_experiments

EE_

6th December 2014, 05:51 AM

Vacuum's post is the evidence that ignorance is used to implement an agenda.

Sexuality/Orgasm is metaphysical topic above all. And the goal of the porn industry is to deter from learning this, keeping humans in animal-low level vibrations/frequencies.

this is a pendulum in full swing.... right, left... left, right...

while there is for sure an agenda to destroy the family unit, we have to look back into time and recognize that females have been suppressed/oppressed for centuries (patriarchy, left brain society) , and such facts are highly convincing to implement feminism.... (matriarchy, right brained society)... balance is what we need to fix this.

the day people learn that extremes are never good, that they exacerbate polarities which make them highly manipulable , they will no longer respond to whatever PTB agendas.

Men should guard themselves not to fall for the victimhood syndrome, doing so is keeping the pendulum in full swing :) a left brain society, isnt adequate either, is as much dysfunctional as a right brained society.

Everything (thoughts included) is physics applies, hence the insightful quote as my sig. Everything is a mind over matter conundrum to teach us the laws of equilibrium. Blaming a specific group or fighting among each other will not resolve a thing. However oppression of women has existed in ALL cultures.

I'd like to understand better your thoughts. Feel free to expound on the highlighted areas.
What is equalibrium?
Blaming the specific group is first understanding the problem, no?
Oppression, good or bad in society?

EE_

6th December 2014, 06:54 AM

Another article:

This Sad Generation Doesn't Know When the Party Stops
December 1, 2014

by Clive Martin

This article first appeared on VICE UK

The idea of "living for the weekend" is nothing new. The history of what we call "youth culture" is really just a history of young people being unable to reconcile their day-to-day lives with their social lives, finding solace in the tribal rites of a Saturday night and workless mornings rather than careers, kids, whatever. A search for a brief few years of drug-taking, shame-walking, clan-fighting, shit-talking "otherness" before we finally become our own parents, whether we fucking like it or not.

Do you spend the first four days of your week scrolling through the Sport Bible Facebook page or waiting for Twitter to kick off about the latest moral catastrophe, nursing obscure chest pains, desperately awaiting that moment where the clock turns 5 or 6 or 6:30 so you can hit the nearest bar and throw a load of shit you wouldn't de-ice your car windows with down your scarred, collapsing airways? Your sense of disillusion is not unique. The only thing that's different about it is the Facebook part. Boundless indulgence is a decades-old problem, an inescapable part of the late-capitalist condition, a symptom of the endless, warless, nothingness of modern life.

You'll find similar feelings expressed in cultural artifacts as revered and ubiquitous as Saturday Night Fever, Quadrophenia, and Bright Lights, Big City. You and your friends might feel like Young Soul Rebels, finding a higher truth through your boundless hedonism, but in actuality you're just shadowboxing your way through an increasingly unambitious cliche. You don't have to be the Christiane F. of your school year group to be a wreckhead now. Even the kids who read Redwall books in the library at lunch get it. These days, it's more transgressive to abstain than to overindulge.

The concept of the teenager is now in its sixties and it's starting to look dated. Where once giving in to those idiot urges that arrive on Friday night was recognized as an essential, natural phase that young people just went through—a kind of existential pubescence that would be rinsed out of their systems once their hangovers started to last days rather than hours—it feels like people today are forgetting to do the moving on part.

It's no longer just teenagers and students who seem to be running away from real life. It's people in their twenties and thirties, too—people who should really know better but don't seem to know how to do much else. Fully grown, semi-functioning adults who are unwilling to surrender those endless nights spent staring at their own harrowed reflections in club-toilet cisterns and can't find much reason to give them up, either. People like me.

This is my generation, the generation with no real incentive to grow up. No kids to feel guilty about, just jobs that let them scrape the money they need to feed, house, and wash themselves. Only the screams of their bosses and worried phone calls from their families goad them on. They're an army of First World wasters trapped in an Escher maze of immaturity.

A friend of mine told me recently that he'd read it would be impossible to make Big now, because 30-year-olds still do the kind of things teenagers do. It wouldn't be funny or shocking anymore to see a grown man buying a pinball table or wearing jeans to the office. It probably wouldn't work even if he were 40 in it.

I'm not 30, but I'm not that far off it either, and when I look at my life I find very little to differentiate it from when I was 17. As I look back at my summer, I can see it in my mind's eye as a slow strobe of wandering the streets of London with tens of blokes, wolfing down tinnies, singing football songs, trying to gatecrash parties, texting girls to find out what they're up to and getting ignored, posting stupid Vines in our secret Facebook group, quartering grams, listening to Underworld, and wearing tracksuit bottoms. I'm in a badly cast remake of Goodbye Charlie Bright and I don't know how to get out of it.

While such behavior is undeniably cathartic and entertaining, it's not really the kind of thing I thought I'd be doing at my age. As a teenager I assumed I'd be like a character from Manhattan by now, with a flourishing yet refined social life enlivened by the occasional high-society Beaujolais piss-up and BFI Bergman retrospective. I didn't think I'd be married with kids, but I didn't think I'd still be getting turned away from the Upper Street B@1 for wearing shorts.

Now, you may cry "crisis of masculinity." You may cry "fear of commitment," or "quarter-life crisis," or just "stupid cunt"—but I think in doing so you'd be ignoring something that is basically true. You can claim that this malaise is purely a London thing, and that the Peter Pans who fill this city moved here for the express purpose of prolonging their adolescences for as long as possible. But even if you're the same age and are way more responsible, this pattern is something you'll see in every town and city in the country. In my mind there is little doubt that this massive, generational detachment from maturity is a nationwide problem, and probably the narrative that will come to define us when they begin to write our stories. It'll be told as the story of how the traditional routes out of our youth—babies, houses, a job worth breaking your back for—were all but sealed off, trapping us into what can only be described as a state of perpetual teenhood.

The author's parents in their early 20s

Like a lot of people I know, I'm already older than my parents are when they had me. It was different back then; being in your mid 20s was the time when responsibility started knocking, when you had to put your youth in the rearview in order to birth screaming, flakey-headed avatars of yourself, only returning to the life you'd put on ice years later on a Union Jack Vespa or an Audi TT, with a toy boy or Thai Bride and some divorce papers in tow.

But now my generation has arrived about a third of the way into the average life expectancy, and most of us are finding out that our 20s are just another stage of an extended boozy montage we've no reason, and no cause, to escape from.

In my parents' day, it was easier to grow up. It was borderline impossible not to; society dragged you up whether you wanted it or not. But on the plus side a life structure beyond FIFA and getting mashed was up for grabs. It was a time when even working-class people, even people in London, even people who didn't go to university, could find jobs that paid well, eventually buy a house, get married, and have children, indulging in all the tropes that make British suburbia both the best and worst place in the world. Sure, they did it later than their own parents and probably had a lot more fun in the process, but not only was the pressure to conform to a traditional lifestyle much greater—it was so attainable that people often did it by mistake, birthing the generation of accidental firstborns that so many of us are.

But very few people make that mistake now. Just this year, the Economist published a piece titled "The End of the Baby Boom?", noting the sudden, massive birth-rate decline in the UK. This was the first drop in the birth rate since 2001, and the biggest since the 1970s.

The reports following the survey honed in on a few possible factors, but two are held up as being the most likely causes: the insane housing market and the faltering economy, which in recent years have become totally integral to each other, like a miserable free-market Sonny and Cher. The simple facts are that unemployment is high, benefits are low, and houses are ludicrously expensive. Another cheerful recent report suggested that to buy a house in London, you'd need to be clearing 100 grand a year. Granted, that's London, but then again, London is the capital city where more than one in ten of British people live now, and the place where by far the highest wages are on offer. Yes, other places are cheaper, but the picture is repeated nationwide. Wages have stagnated to the point where earning £40,000 ($63,000) a year puts you in the top 10 percent of the population's earners. Essentially, it's all looking a bit shit out there.

Sure, perhaps basing this on children and housing ownership does play into a very traditional view of what maturity is, but in an economy that is almost entirely based on house prices, investing in property is probably your best chance of doing anything with your money other than endlessly blowing it on uncontrolled rent and misery repellents. And children must be one of the few remaining catalysts in this world that'll convince you that the party needs to stop.

These tenets of adulthood aren't for everyone, but this problem we have of people not being able to grow out of their party years has far more impact than a couple of drunk idiots crawling back into the creches of teenage nostalgia. All around us is the evidence of what happens when you deny a generation its ability to grow up. You see it in the armies of young men and women being carried out of clubs with puke on their shirts and rage in their hearts, in the broken teeth nestled in-between the cobbles of our pedestrianized shopping precincts, in the 3.3 million young people still living with their parents, in the astonishingly high suicide rates of young men, in the cocaine-heavy water supply, in Dapper Laughs, in 90s R&B nights in supposedly hip and forward-thinking places vomiting out tired, incapacitated tertiary workers, in the boy who became addicted to selfies, in Mr. OiOi and basically everything else that has come to define this generation that just can't get its shit together.

Instead of moving on with our lives, we've stuck to what we know, because finding anything else is just too hard. We spend most of our money renting flats we don't like; we eat supermarket pizzas; we mildly enjoy a few episodes of a new American comedy series before lying face down on a pillow trying to think of new ways not to go to work. On the weekends we get as fucked up as we've been doing for the last ten years despite the fact that it throws us into wild, vertiginous depressions, because it's the only thing we have left to believe in. We are the new aging Italian bachelors in our own mundane versions of The Great Beauty—the new-British professional wreckheads, the generation that doesn't know what to do with itself now that it's been forced to choose reality over the grand, overarching myths that steered our parents the way of relative peace and respectability. When you have no myth to guide you, what do you lock in on when the hangovers and comedowns demand some normalcy to return to?

If we're to expand our options beyond the dichotomy that is "emigrate or retreat," we need to find new ways to adapt to the world we have no choice but to live in. Times are hard, things are shit, but maybe it's time to try another plan other than partying ourselves into early, middle-aged oblivion. We may well be chiefly remembered for mephedrone, shufflers, and furious responses to Vine comedians, but maybe it'd pay to stop caring about what we'll be remembered for and just get on with finding our own routes out of this pissed-up purgatory.

You don't have to learn poi and move to an eco-farm to find alternative ways of living. Moving outside of London shouldn't mean you're giving up your life. We need to start taking steps beyond the "rent a flat in E9 and just try to survive" lifestyle that's being sold to us—otherwise we'll all just continue to throw money into Lynton Crosby's scumbag utopia.

We claim to hate the system that's made us like this, yet we're all so desperate to be a part of it. Maybe it's better to be young in a new world than old in a one we know all too well. We're staring down the barrel of the first batch of acid house grandchildren, FFS. Maybe it's time we found a new way to grow up.
http://www.vice.com/read/when-does-the-party-stop?utm_source=vicefbus

EE_

6th December 2014, 07:11 AM

EE_

6th December 2014, 07:38 AM

I have 5 nieces all in their early/mid 20's. All pretty girls that came from affluent/well off families, all college educated, and all have been given the benefit of a very good upbringing.

All are disfunctional in one way or another. One is materialistic, one has overly high expectations of males, one is borderline autistic, one has a male type personality and one is a lesbian. All but the gay niece are unable to establish a relationship for longer then a few months.

The only one that seems really happy and is in a long term relationship is the gay niece.

I hear bits and pieces about their lives and their very temporary relationships. It sounds like the males in their lives are unable to commit to anything and are unwilling to deal with the girls high expectations.

mick silver

6th December 2014, 09:49 AM

Initially the population grew rapidly, doubling every 55 days. The population reached 620 by day 315, after which the population growth dropped markedly. The last surviving birth was on day 600. This period between day 315 and day 600 saw a breakdown (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_disintegration) in social structure (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_structure) and in normal social behavior. Among the aberrations in behavior were the following: expulsion of young before weaning was complete, wounding of young, inability of dominant males to maintain the defense of their territory and females, aggressive behavior of females, passivity of non-dominant males with increased attacks on each other which were not defended against. After day 600, the social breakdown continued and the population declined toward extinction. During this period females ceased to reproduce. Their male counterparts withdrew completely, never engaging in courtship or fighting. They ate, drank, slept, and groomed themselves – all solitary pursuits. Sleek, healthy coats and an absence of scars characterized these males. They were dubbed “the beautiful ones”.
The conclusions drawn from this experiment were that when all available space is taken and all social roles filled, competition and the stresses experienced by the individuals will result in a total breakdown in complex social behaviors, ultimately resulting in the demise of the population.
Calhoun saw the fate of the population of mice as a metaphor for the potential fate of man. He characterized the social breakdown as a “second death”, with reference to the “second death” mentioned in the Biblical book (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible) of Revelation 2:11 (http://tools.wmflabs.org/bibleversefinder/?book=Revelation&verse=2:11&src=NIV) [1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Calhoun#cite_note-mice-1) His study has been cited by writers such as Bill Perkins as a warning of the dangers of the living in an "increasingly crowded and impersonal world".[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Calhoun#cite_note-2)
Conclusion[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_B._Calhoun&action=edit&section=6)]Calhoun believed that his research provided clues to the future of mankind as well as ways to avoid a looming disaster. During the 1960s, he and Dr. Leaonard Duhl formed an informal group, the Space Cadets, which met to discuss the social uses of space. The members of this group came from as diverse professions as architecture, city planning, physics, and psychiatry. In Calhoun’s own words “Our success in being human has so far derived from our honoring deviance more than tradition. Template changing always has gained a slight, though often tenuous, lead over template obeying. Now we must search diligently for those creative deviants from which, alone, will come the conceptualization of an evolutionary designing process. This can assure us an open-ended future toward whose realization we can participate.”
Calhoun's book, Environment and Population: Problems of Adaptation: An Experimental Book Integrating Statements by 162 Contributors, was published in 1983.
Calhoun died on September 7, 1995 at the age of 78.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Calhoun#cite_note-NYT-3)
His papers were donated to the National Library of Medicine by Edith Calhoun and the American Heritage Center.[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Calhoun#cite_note-4)
Re-emergence in current research[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_B._Calhoun&action=edit&section=7)]

Twisted Titan

6th December 2014, 11:16 AM

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/040/b/a/albert_einstein_poster_by_dimuthu93-d5ubiqo.jpg

Max Planck was far more brilliant than Einstein, yet the Tribesman is portrayed as the quintessence of brilliance.

Everybody just glosses over that this heeb worked in the patent office.....just think about that.

He got to see what people were trying to make sure they would get there credit for.

Cebu_4_2

6th December 2014, 02:54 PM

It sounds like the males in their live are unable to commit to anything and are unwilling to deal with the girls high expectations.

After my first divorce this is what I found. Every woman over and over fell into this expectation thing, gold diggers and career divorce was the theme. Took me some years to figure out how I was going to deal with it. Had to go shopping on the other side of the planet to find what I wanted.

Hitch

6th December 2014, 03:11 PM

After my first divorce this is what I found. Every woman over and over fell into this expectation thing, gold diggers and career divorce was the theme. Took me some years to figure out how I was going to deal with it. Had to go shopping on the other side of the planet to find what I wanted.

Reason why I've never married, the whole expectation thing, and entitlement thing. If I do decide to marry, it will be a gal from the "other side of the planet" for sure. Fell for a French gal and a Polish gal hard in the past, and both would have been good companions.

This thread makes me think I'm part of the problem. Removing myself in such a way. On one hand it's great being single and free, I justify it as just not having met the right woman yet. I'm glad you took the path you did Cebu to make it happen. I might get there one day.

Cebu_4_2

6th December 2014, 03:19 PM

On one hand it's great being single and free, I justify it as just not having met the right woman yet. I'm glad you took the path you did Cebu to make it happen. I might get there one day.

I was never the single type so I took a few stoopid chances and lost big. Looking back I guess it had to happen this way for me to figure it all out and although a bit lighter in 'material things' I am content in not worrying about someone stealing all my shit... there isn't much left and if there was I am with someone that is honest.

expat4ever

6th December 2014, 04:26 PM

Silver Rocket Bitches!

6th December 2014, 04:38 PM

When I read shit like this it's like the Protocols unfolding in real time.

Cebu_4_2

6th December 2014, 04:39 PM

My first 2 divorces didnt hurt me to bad. I always managed to keep some things hidden on the side so they couldnt gain access to it. Some things were hidden in plain sight as well. Like My cihgar collection. At the time I had amassed a considerable amount and they were never on the table during the 2nd divorce. I dont think an attorney wants to appraoch the subject in front of a judge. How do you ask a judge to grant her 1/2 of an item that is contraband in the US?

Anyway, I am single by choice now. Have had plenty of women want to take me down the isle a 3rd time but I wont budge. I cant think of any good reason to marry again. If I want some com[pany I'll invite my friends over. If I want sex I can invite a friend over as well.

A short story from my rrecent trip to Mx.. Upon leaving this Japanese guy approaches me for light. He was about late 50's and we started talking. Within minutes we get on the subject of women (He's from Ca). He cant believe how American women are or how easily women become Americanized and just expect the guy to give them everything. We both agreed that American culture(Whatever that is) is fucked. He has a GF in Guatamala and shes great. I may go back to the PI and pull a wife out of there someday. Not sure yet. Have also though about Albania and Bulgaria for possible mate choices. The women I have met from those countries have all been very nice and down to earth. More about the relationship than the stuff.
I think the obly solution in the US is to get rid of the TV. Maybe then th witches will figure out how to keep it real.

The PI is where I went. A friend mentioned it and I did some research on the scammmers and such. Went to an asian dating site to simply chat with people that there was no way in getting in trouble from the current psycho GF who flaked out again for a month. After a while I decided to take a vacation to visit and history was made. I went to call a girls bluff, no way so honest. Her family interrogated me instead! Best vacations I ever had although the 2nd was to get her to pass at the embassy. Only 12 days but was great. LOL, to get a hotel I would send her in and get a great rate, regular travelers paid 2-3x mattering on how they dressed. Arabians paid 5x what we did. Great memories.

crimethink

6th December 2014, 05:10 PM

Did anyone read the research done on the mice? the beutiful ones??? that was dead on!

It totally explains the rise of the metrosexual and everything that is happening to our country and where it ends is not good!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Calhoun#Mouse_experiments

I remember reading about rodent experiments in Sociobiology now-decades ago. Increased population density drove the animals mad, and they became queers.

Shami-Amourae

6th December 2014, 05:28 PM

Found the Wiki article in video form:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z760XNy4VM

expat4ever

6th December 2014, 07:41 PM

The PI is where I went. A friend mentioned it and I did some research on the scammmers and such. Went to an asian dating site to simply chat with people that there was no way in getting in trouble from the current psycho GF who flaked out again for a month. After a while I decided to take a vacation to visit and history was made. I went to call a girls bluff, no way so honest. Her family interrogated me instead! Best vacations I ever had although the 2nd was to get her to pass at the embassy. Only 12 days but was great. LOL, to get a hotel I would send her in and get a great rate, regular travelers paid 2-3x mattering on how they dressed. Arabians paid 5x what we did. Great memories.
In 2006 I spent 3 weeks there. Had a great time on the beach in Cagayan De Oro. Spent a little time in manila as well. For the most part it felt like they were stuck in the early 80's but the women are very nice and the right ones have great attitudes towards making their man happy. Get away from the big cities and the values are very Christian.

crimethink

6th December 2014, 08:21 PM

In 2006 I spent 3 weeks there. Had a great time on the beach in Cagayan De Oro. Spent a little time in manila as well. For the most part it felt like they were stuck in the early 80's but the women are very nice and the right ones have great attitudes towards making their man happy. Get away from the big cities and the values are very Christian.

I'm so not into interracial, but I understand why White men go for Filipinas and similar. They are usually very kind and selfless - you see a lot of RNs and LVNs who come right over from the Philippines. They may like their gambling and shopping, but they usually remember family is always first.

singular_me

6th December 2014, 11:05 PM

EE, it is simply impossible to expound in a few lines, but I think Vacuum gives a solid hint. My postings are complementary. It is also impossible to dissolve the NWO without identifying first the nature of the issue we're face with... fighting "divide and conquer" is self-defeating because every motion has it counter-motion and can only lead to annihilation.

jews/masons are not the root cause but the expression/mirror of it and "it" is ignorance... just like willing to go after feminism while the problem is much profound than that.

I'd like to understand better your thoughts. Feel free to expound on the highlighted areas.
What is equalibrium?
Blaming the specific group is first understanding the problem, no?
Oppression, good or bad in society?

Shami-Amourae

11th December 2014, 12:33 PM

Paul Joseph Watson gives his take:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwPFnvniA7w

Shami-Amourae

11th December 2014, 12:43 PM

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/12/09/The-Sexodus-Part-2-Dishonest-Feminist-Panics-Leave-Male-Sexuality-In-Crisis

PART 2

Sexual dysfunction is not unique to the twenty-first century—nor, certainly, to the West. Japan's "herbivores"—men who shun sex (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/foreigners/2009/06/the_herbivores_dilemma.html) and prefer saving money and going on long walks to riding motorcycles and flirting with girls—have been well documented and are regarded by social scientists as the best example of male sexuality turning in on itself.

But although the sexodus, a new retreat into solitude by Western males, (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/12/04/The-Sexodus-Part-1-The-Men-Giving-Up-On-Women-And-Checking-Out-Of-Society) has a different flavour to it and dramatically different aetiology from previously observed social crises, many characteristics are identical. And what's troubling about men throwing in the towel in both East and West is the rapidity with which the malaise is spreading across entire generations, fuelled not just by sexual dissatisfaction but also the economic and educational pressures felt by so many young boys.

Perhaps we shouldn't be surprised. It's little wonder that in the disorientating modern world, men should seek out extreme measures to help them relate to, and get what they want from, the opposite sex. That probably explains the rise of Julien Blanc (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/11/20/Julien-Blanc-denied-a-visa-We-ought-to-be-ashamed-of-ourselves), who claims his seminars can transform the way women will respond to you. Blanc is at the extreme end of a movement known as "pick-up artists" or PUAs.

But other voices in the PUA or "red pill" movements, including Daryush Valizadeh, who goes by the pen name Roosh V (http://www.rooshv.com/the-roosh-program), says there are structural reasons why society is evolving away from inter-gender contentment. Part of the problem is unrealistic female expectations, says Valizadeh. "Getting laid with attractive women has become extremely hard for average men. Women today of average or even below average quality desire an elite man with above-average looks, muscles, intelligence, and confidence.
"If an average girl works hard enough, she will be able to have a one-night stand with a 'hot' guy every now and then because he happened to be horny and wanted an easy lay. The girl then thinks that she actually can get such a man to commit to her for the long term, and so doesn't give the average guys a chance, holding out for the type of stud that she had a brief sexual encounter with in the past."

Valizadeh has some controversial views on the state of modern womanhood, too. He says: "It's also damaging that the attractiveness of women is rapidly declining, mainly due to the obesity epidemic. No matter what members of the 'fat acceptance' movement say, men have an innate need for fit women. What happens is the few attractive girls left get unimaginable amounts of attention."

According to Valizadeh, today's sexual marketplace represents a Pareto distribution in which "20 percent of the top guys have access to 80 percent of the best women," which has the effect of leaving women holding out for the perfect man, a man who of course never comes.

Valizadeh agrees with masculinity author Jack Donovan that men have been feminised by a culture that rejects and ridicules male characteristics and habits. "Good luck naming one male role model that men have today that actually helps them become men," he remarks. These thoughts are echoed on occasionally rude but compelling male-oriented blogs, such as the phenomenally popular Chateau Heartiste (https://heartiste.wordpress.com/).

They are also supported by the current state of the sex wars, which are constituted bizarrely. One of the remarkable things about recent high-profile skirmishes with feminists is how few mainstream heterosexual men have been involved. In the GamerGate video games controversy, opposition to "social justice warriors" and their attempts at censorship on Twitter has come from older gay men in public life (http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2014/11/11/the-sjws-now-get-to-police-speech-on-twitter-ctd/) and younger geeks, gamers and drop-outs; in the case of Matt Taylor, it was geeks and other women.

Straight young men simply don't want to know any more. They're not getting involved. Some women, too, horrified by what lesbianised third-wave feminism claims to do in their name, opt out of the argument. The absurd result is that geeks, queers and dykes are dominating the discussion about how men and women should interact. Jack Donovan, for example, is gay, as is your present correspondent. It's as if gays are the only men left prepared to fight masculinity's corner.

Men want normal relationships that include sex, says Valizadeh. Some of them will read pick-up artist books or go to seminars by people such as Roosh V if they don't get it or need to be trained out of "white knight" behaviours instilled in them by a female-dominated culture. (Men have been taught that being a nice guy gets you laid. It doesn't.)

What strikes a lot of women as strange is how rational and systematic so much of this decision-making is by men. Many young men literally perform a cost-benefit analysis and decide that women aren't worth the hassle. It's girls who lose out in this scenario: men don't need the sustained emotional intimacy that comes with a fulfilling sexual relationship and can retreat into masturbatory pursuits, prostitution and one-night stands much more comfortably.

But that's exactly what it is, from a male point of view: a rational opting out from education, work and marriage by men who have had enough, as a remarkable book by Dr Helen Smith called Men on Strike warned in July last year (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Men-Strike-Boycotting-Marriage-Fatherhood/dp/1594036756). (The consensus on this stuff is growing rapidly.)

Men, driven, as many of them like to say, by fact and not emotion, can see that society is not fair to them and more dangerous for them. They point to the fact that they are more likely to be murder victims and more likely to commit suicide. Women do not choose to serve in the Armed Forces and they experience fewer deaths and injuries in the line of work generally.

Women get shorter custodial sentences for the same crimes. There are more scholarships available to them in college. They receive better and cheaper healthcare, and can pick from favourable insurance packages available only to girls. When it comes to children, women are presumed to be the primary caregiver and given preferential treatment by the courts. They have more, better contraceptive options.

Women are less likely to be homeless, unemployed or to abuse drugs than men. They are less likely to be depressed or to suffer from mental illness. There is less pressure on them to achieve financial success. They are less likely to live in poverty. They are given priority by emergency and medical services.

Some might call these statistical trends "female privilege." Yet everywhere and at all times, say men's rights advocates, the "lived experiences" and perceived oppression of women is given a hundred per cent of the airtime, in defiance of the reality that women haven't just achieved parity with men but have overtaken them in almost every conceivable respect. (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Who-Stole-Feminism-Women-Betrayed/dp/0684801566/ref=asap_B000AP9N5S_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1418122050&sr=1-1) What inequalities remain are the result of women's choices, say respectable feminist academics such as Christina Hoff Sommers, not structural biases.

And yet men are constantly beaten up over bizarre invented concepts such as rape culture and patriarchal privilege. The bizarre but inevitable conclusion of all this is that women are fuelling their own unhappiness by driving men to consider them as sex objects and nothing more, because the thought of engaging in a relationship with a woman is horrifying, or too exhausting to contemplate. And the sexodus will affect women disproportionately harshly because research data show that when women "act like men" by having lots of casual sex, they become unhappy, are more likely to suffer from depression and destroy their chances of securing a meaningful long-term relationship (http://imgur.com/5XqyNwz,avzUR7V,wASaasz,eKsY7ik,2djbM1S,cQ7wlgB,bw JxZ4E,EoziThx,VLAzpE6#5).

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It's not just video games and casual sex that young men are retreating into. They are also immersing themselves in fetishes that to their grandparents' generation would resemble grounds for incarceration, and which drive them further away from the formerly fairer sex. Consider, for example, the example of furry culture and anthropomorphic animal sex fetishism, both of which are experiencing explosive growth, fuelled by the internet.

Jack Rivlin's student newspaper The Tab, which we encountered in part one, has noticed the trend spreading on UK campuses (http://tab.co.uk/2014/07/29/its-like-a-sexuality-these-students-dress-up-as-giant-animals-but-want-to-show-furries-are-people-too/). (It's already rife throughout the US.) Other alternative sexual behaviours, including homosexuality and transgenderism, are more prevalent on campus now too.

"It's eminently plausible that there are a greater number of people who identify as homosexual, bisexual or other sexualities who are happy to be labelled as such these days," agrees Cambridge Union president Tim Squirrell, from whom we heard in part one, speaking about the students he sees passing through his Union. "I think we're becoming more open and accepting of people who live different kinds of lifestyles and have different kinds of identities."

Gay emancipation, of course, may not have been a uniformly good thing for women. Depending on whose figures you believe—and you're wise not to take the claims of gay advocacy groups or gay magazines too seriously, for obvious reasons—somewhere between 1 per cent and 10 per cent of the adult male population is gay. (It's probably a lot closer to 1 per cent.)

Just a few decades ago, many of those men—at the risk of stereotyping, the most sensitive, artistic, attractive and highest-earning men; that is, perfect husband material—would have got married, had a few kids and led a double life to pursue their forbidden urges. They wouldn't have bothered their wives for sex and they would have made great fathers.

But now they're settling down with men, in many cases not having children at all. In other words, a healthy chunk of the most desirable men—men who no doubt would have cooed along approvingly to feminist exhortations—are now off the market, leaving even fewer eligible men in the dating pool.

(As a side note, here's an argument you won't read elsewhere: gay men test significantly higher, on average, for IQ, and we know that IQ is at least partially genetically determined. Gays don't reproduce as much now they don't have to keep up the pretence of straight relationships. In fact, surveys say they barely reproduce at all.

Is it too much of a stretch to ask whether society's newfound tolerance of homosexuals has made society... well, a bit more stupid? Granted, it sounds far-fetched. But while there's no doubt that liberating gay men from the shame of their secret double lives has been a moral imperative, driven by compassion, no rapid social change comes without trade-offs.)

All this comes before we even discuss the rapid growth of sadomasochistic sex among the young and the "new civil rights frontier" of transgenderism, a psychiatric disorder currently in the process of being repackaged by the Left as an alternative sexual lifestyle (http://yiannopoulos.net/2014/08/15/transgenderism-is-a-psychiatric-disorder-its-sufferers-need-therapy-not-surgery/).

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The response to part one of this series (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/12/04/The-Sexodus-Part-1-The-Men-Giving-Up-On-Women-And-Checking-Out-Of-Society) was colossal. To date, over 300,000 readers have shared it on Facebook. 16,500 readers left comments. Over 500 men wrote to me privately to express their gratitude and support, from every continent and in all age groups. The younger men spoke especially movingly. (Predictably, hundreds of angry feminists on Twitter scorned it as "entitled whinging from white male manbabies," rather proving the point of the story's premise for me.) Here are the most representative quotes from my conversations, reprinted with permission.

Mark, 24: "Everyone I know feels the same. Your article spoke directly to us. We're not all losers and nerds, we're just normal guys who are either scared of being accused of terrible stuff by harpies or simply can't be bothered any more. I can't believe I'm saying this but I just can't deal with hassle of women any more."

Mickey: "I say no to the whole thing, even though I am very heterosexual and would like the intimacy of a relationship based on mutual respect. Well, I thought I did, but it’s been so long and the standard of behavior for women remains so low, along with my tolerance for dating bullshit, that it does not look like a realistic desire anymore."

Francis, 28: "I'm an athlete. My parents have a lot of money. I have plenty of friends and a good social life. I don't hang out with women any more. Occasionally I'll have one night stands, but mostly I fill my time with other things. I got accused of molesting a girl at college and since then I've just thought, whatever. I play sports instead."

Tilo, 20: "I don't know for sure but your article sounds like me and a lot of my friends. I do furry stuff online in secret. I'd be horrified if my parents found out but it's all that gets me off. Girls are a nightmare. I have a brother who's ten years older and he feels the same. We've given up."

Hector, 26: "I did stick to that social belief for a brief time thinking that the need for a serious relationship would come with the age, but it never happened and slowly I gave up. Today, a few hours before reading your article, I was having lunch with my mother and she kept talking about girlfriends and how I needed to get married, meanwhile I kept thinking 'why would I waste my life with this shit?', and it wasn't until I read your article a few hours later, that I realised. And I don't think it's just my generation that is affected by this."

We can be quite sure now that the sexodus is not some fringe, isolated internet movement as "Men Going Their Own Way" has sometimes been characterised. A combination of disastrous social engineering, special privileges for women, the relentless mockery of white men on the basis of their sex and skin colour and the economic and educational abandonment for boys (http://imgur.com/5XqyNwz,avzUR7V,wASaasz,eKsY7ik,2djbM1S,cQ7wlgB,bw JxZ4E,EoziThx,VLAzpE6#4) has created one, if not two, lost generations already.

Men created most of what is good about the world. (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/12/04/In-defence-of-the-patriarchy) The excesses of masculinity are also, to be sure, responsible for much of what is bad. But if we are to avoid sliding into decline, mediocrity (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/11/26/Scientific-Proof-That-Public-Debate-Is-Dominated-By-Stupid-People) and a world in which men are actively discriminated against, we must arrest the decline in social attitudes towards them before so many victims are claimed that all hope of reconciliation between the sexes is lost. If that happens, it will be women who will suffer.

Some names have been changed.

Hitch

11th December 2014, 01:41 PM

According to Valizadeh, today's sexual marketplace represents a Pareto distribution in which "20 percent of the top guys have access to 80 percent of the best women," which has the effect of leaving women holding out for the perfect man, a man who of course never comes.

Regarding this trend, I can see it getting worse and worse over time. Women rarely "date down", meaning date men who are less successful than themselves. So, say a woman lawyer isn't going to go out with a guy who's a bartender, or waiter, etc...at least not for any long term relationship.

As time goes on, more and more women, over men, are getting the college degrees, going after the big paying jobs.

Furthermore, and I speak for myself, but I think more and more men are realizing that women are a nice addition to life, but not required to live a happy fulfilling life. In short, don't need a beautiful woman at my side to prove anything to anyone.

EE_

11th December 2014, 02:05 PM

Regarding this trend, I can see it getting worse and worse over time. Women rarely "date down", meaning date men who are less successful than themselves. So, say a woman lawyer isn't going to go out with a guy who's a bartender, or waiter, etc...at least not for any long term relationship.

As time goes on, more and more women, over men, are getting the college degrees, going after the big paying jobs.

Furthermore, and I speak for myself, but I think more and more men are realizing that women are a nice addition to life, but not required to live a happy fulfilling life. In short, don't need a beautiful woman at my side to prove anything to anyone.

Unlike the Sexodus, you are part of what is called 'MGTOW' (migtow) Men Going Their Own Way

Hitch

11th December 2014, 02:08 PM

Unlike the Sexodus, you are part of what is called 'MGTOW' (magtow) Men Going Their Own Way

Well, I guess I'm part of the problem then. :) I'll have to look into that term. I do date women though, just none consistently. Women seem to come and go through life, and that's just fine by me.

Hitch

11th December 2014, 02:27 PM

Unlike the Sexodus, you are part of what is called 'MGTOW' (magtow) Men Going Their Own Way

LOL, apparently women really hate mgtow guys. The pictures in this video are hilarious. Note to self, don't mention mgtow to women...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEk4rUqvVhY

EE_

11th December 2014, 02:37 PM

LOL, apparently women really hate mgtow guys. The pictures in this video are hilarious. Note to self, don't mention mgtow to women...

You might like some of his other videos :)

Santa

11th December 2014, 03:17 PM

Mgtows, mangina's, furries, yiffing...etc.... Lol...this thread is teaching me about stuff I had no idea even existed.

Shami-Amourae

11th December 2014, 04:35 PM

Mgtows, mangina's, furries, yiffing...etc.... Lol...this thread is teaching me about stuff I had no idea even existed.

Most of my friends and customers are these people. Personally I just focus on my art/work and avoid most relationships, but I do enjoy dominating people here and there.

It's near impossible to find any Alpha or dominant males. A lot of females are dykes, and the ones that are straight/bi tend to dominate men or what I would refer to as a "Princess Sub". To be honest, it's very difficult finding a completely straight female these days, sort of like finding an Alpha Male. Basically they may come off as submissive but will dominate men from below and control/manipulate them, then dispose of them men. About half of my friends are female and not a single one of them is straight. Not one. Most of them seem to prefer women over men.

One of the biggest, and fastest growing fetishes is FinDom, which is probably the most fucked up when you consider Furry and all that shit. Basically its a fetish where people get off on paying stuck up bitches money. The FinDomme Mistress rarely touches or does anything to them sexually, though they may be "lucky" to be able to lick their boots (literally) or let the Mistress step on their cock while they lay on their back. I know and have friends who are FinDommes, both female and shemale, and there's a lotta weird fucked up beta men who do this. I'm not just talking weirdos in their mother's basements. I'm talking lawyers, doctors, and so on. You tend to need a lot of money to throw at these Findommes. A large percentage of these men come from Europe, especially England and Germany. I've always tried to avoid English subs since they seem to be completely soulless masochistic freaks.

Virtually of the Furries and Bronies are typically on the Autism spectrum. I more or less feel sorry for them than disgusted with them since they really are just fucking out there. The good thing is they seem generally very friendly and happy so more power to them. They tend to stick to their own and are very self aware of what "normal" people think of them, unlike gays who shove what they believe in, in your face.

vacuum

11th December 2014, 05:36 PM

Note to self, don't mention mgtow to women...

That is correct. No reason to make yourself a target, especially to women since they will attempt to use their social influence to destroy you.

Hitch

11th December 2014, 07:33 PM

ShortJohnSilver

11th December 2014, 09:57 PM

One of the biggest, and fastest growing fetishes is FinDom, which is probably the most fucked up when you consider Furry and all that shit. Basically its a fetish where people get off on paying stuck up bitches money. The FinDomme Mistress rarely touches or does anything to them sexually, though they may be "lucky" to be able to lick their boots (literally) or let the Mistress step on their cock while they lay on their back. I know and have friends who are FinDommes, both female and shemale, and there's a lotta weird fucked up beta men who do this. I'm not just talking weirdos in their mother's basements. I'm talking lawyers, doctors, and so on. You tend to need a lot of money to throw at these Findommes. A large percentage of these men come from Europe, especially England and Germany. I've always tried to avoid English subs since they seem to be completely soulless masochistic freaks.

It's a sly joke, right? You are describing upper middle class marriage :)

Shami-Amourae

11th December 2014, 10:39 PM

Shami, please don't take offense, but is it healthy for you to be around folks like that? I know your knowledge on health foods, and health in general is far beyond most folks, including myself, but what about spiritual health, etc.

Your post makes me think about God looking down on his magnificent creation, and seeing how people are fucking crazy. It's an interesting time we live in. All that FinDomme stuff makes no sense at all.

That's most likely since you're not a masochist. A lot of people are, especially when a beautiful woman is doing it.

Also I don't believe in the spiritual. I do what makes me happiest (or at least I think so.) We are electrical beings and technology/computers aren't foreign, they expand who we can become.

Neuro

12th December 2014, 03:18 AM

EE, it is simply impossible to expound in a few lines, but I think Vacuum gives a solid hint. My postings are complementary. It is also impossible to dissolve the NWO without identifying first the nature of the issue we're face with... fighting "divide and conquer" is self-defeating because every motion has it counter-motion and can only lead to annihilation.

jews/masons are not the root cause but the expression/mirror of it and "it" is ignorance... just like willing to go after feminism while the problem is much profound than that.
Perhaps not so easy to get out of your ignorance if your brain damaged by vaccinations from birth, edumbification, mind-altering television and drugs through childhood, and finally disinformants on the Internet telling the ones who can still think for themselves that no blame belongs to the Joos/masons but it is all our own fault if we are stoopid...

singular_me

12th December 2014, 04:43 AM

aeondaze

12th December 2014, 05:42 AM

I see what you mean, but thats the very challenge with free will.... one cannot address this without taking full responsibility. One side of the coin embodies absolute evil and the other one absolute free will.... avoid self responsibility and evil grows stronger. Its a polarity, duality. Inescapable.

that is why the elites will always tell us what their next step is in subtext or very blatantly... they give us the choice to free ourselves or go down another step into serfdom

Yes jews have serious track records but my understanding goes beyond it, as I am convinced it goes back to ancient egypt, sumeria and in short, pre-diluvian civilizations. The extreme focus on the jews here has a blinding side effect.

My picture is a lot bigger... I think it is what jews want, that we all stay stuck in the zionist distorted reality and it is working well, we keep feeding the hydra. As long as we cannot get past that, we cannot resolve the issue. And the evidence is that things have gone from bad to worse in a 2000 year time frame.

I am not referring to stupidity but FEAR. The fear of standing on one's two feet. And sure fear can make act stupidly but that still is a consequence.

Looks like you are rather talking in favor of voluntaryism

Don't you even understand how much you contradict yourself? One minute you're saying you don't believe in duality, that it is an 'illusion' and the next you're quoting it as 'inescapable' fact!

You quote hearsay as fact when you state the elites tell us when they do something, I've never been convinced of that, ever.

You being convinced of something holds no weight whatsoever, you would be convinced of anything so long as it conforms to your outrageous beliefs, even on the flimsiest of assertions and when the evidence is overwhelmingly counter to your claims.

Your 'picture' is not a lot bigger than anyone else on this forum, its only your conceit that is.

What do you mean by 'stuck in the zionist disotorted reality'?

Zionism is a political propagandist tool, if you want to call propaganda a reality then I would have to beg to differ. Propaganda is nothing more than a biased take on events to justify an outcome with reasoning thats actually counter to its stated claims.

We don't live in a 'zionist distorted reality', we live in normal reality of which zionist propaganda is at a saturation level. Only those who are either blissfully unaware of the zionists intentions (most of the population) or those who willingly downplay zionist meddling, of which you are definately one, are true victims of their vitriolic hyperbole, the rest of us are unfortuantely carried along, prisoners to the ignorance of the majority.

You think that love, kindness and compassion are the only tools that will defeat the zionist onslaught, and that is an absolute joke.

Ultimately you're insulting every member of this forum when you assert that our finger pointing is somehow unproductive and 'falling' into their trap because in actuality the complete opposite of what you claim is true.

So please tell us all here and now, what exactly is wrong with pointing the finger at the zionsits? Don't start with your tautological rhetoric about 'reality' and 'illusions', tell us in very plain language...

EE_

12th December 2014, 05:54 AM

I see what you mean, but thats the very challenge with free will.... one cannot address this without taking full responsibility. One side of the coin embodies absolute evil and the other one absolute free will.... avoid self responsibility and evil grows stronger. Its a polarity, duality. Inescapable.

that is why the elites will always tell us what their next step is in subtext or very blatantly... they give us the choice to free ourselves or go down another step into serfdom

Yes jews have serious track records but my understanding goes beyond it, as I am convinced it goes back to ancient egypt, sumeria and in short, pre-diluvian civilizations. The extreme focus on the jews here has a blinding side effect.

My picture is a lot bigger... I think it is what jews want, that we all stay stuck in the zionist distorted reality and it is working well, we keep feeding the hydra. As long as we cannot get past that, we cannot resolve the issue. And the evidence is that things have gone from bad to worse in a 2000 year time frame.

I am not referring to stupidity but FEAR. The fear of standing on one's two feet. And sure fear can make act stupidly but that still is a consequence.

Looks like you are rather talking in favor of voluntaryism

If you are looking at the big picture, you should know the general population has been programmed beyond the point they have free will. They are very malleable to the elite's agenda. They will not awaken from their deep slumber.

We here, on the other hand, are awake for the most part. We are people that take full responsibility for ourselves.
We do what we can to not enable the evil by exercising our free will.

Most of us know there is someone at the top of the pyramid we are not allowed to see.

Focusing on the Jews is I believe, the only option at this time. They are the hand of Satan, we see them and their evil deeds. The problem lies in that most of the population does not see them. In fact, the majority of the population is told to worship them and put their interests before their own...and they do.

How are we to chop the head off the Hydra without removing their enforcers first.
I'd like to hear your thought out ideas. (I don't buy the peaceful resistance meme)

A good metaphor might be to call the government the head of the Hydra. How much power would head have if the body of it's soldiers and enforcers were removed?

I will continue to expose the Hydra through it's Jewish soldiers and enforcers until they are once again expelled from society. Hopefully, it will be permanent this next time, or let's say the 121st time in 2,000 years of history of them being expelled.

I will listen to your ideas on how we (the awakened) can get to the invisible head of the Hydra and drive a sword through it, killing it forever. Forget about the bulk of society, they are lost and unsalvageable.

singular_me

12th December 2014, 06:03 AM

Aeon, stick to your zionist made atheism... all I can say, because there lies your own deep inner contractions which you are at war with.

cant you understand that each of us holds one piece of the BIG puzzle and that as long as we fight each others, it is a big win for the zionists and their distorted reality they thrust upon us.

Keep fighting... with your self ... I no longer do

duality (2 sides) express the same ONE coin. And I have been highly consistent along this line

Don't you even understand how much you contradict yourself? One minute you're saying you don't believe in duality, that it is an 'illusion' and the next you're quoting it as 'inescapable' fact!.

EE, will get back later, gotta go

Neuro

12th December 2014, 10:34 AM

aeondaze

12th December 2014, 04:13 PM

So please tell us all here and now, what exactly is wrong with pointing the finger at the zionsits? Don't start with your tautological rhetoric about 'reality' and 'illusions', tell us in very plain language...

If you areFocusing on the Jews is I believe, the only option at this time. They are the hand of Satan, we see them and their evil deeds. The problem lies in that most of the population does not see them. In fact, the majority of the population is told to worship them and put their interests before their own...and they do.

How are we to chop the head off the Hydra without removing their enforcers first.
I'd like to hear your thought out ideas. (I don't buy the peaceful resistance meme)

A good metaphor might be to call the government the head of the Hydra. How much power would head have if the body of it's soldiers and enforcers were removed?

I will continue to expose the Hydra through it's Jewish soldiers and enforcers until they are once again expelled from society. Hopefully, it will be permanent this next time, or let's say the 121st time in 2,000 years of history of them being expelled.

I will listen to your ideas on how we (the awakened) can get to the invisible head of the Hydra and drive a sword through it, killing it forever. Forget about the bulk of society, they are lost and unsalvageable.

What Free will? People that get brain injured from early age by Jew mandated vaccines, made worse by TV-programming, and psychotropic drugs, and an education system geared towards rightthink for dull minds never even got a chance at free will. As long as the jewish cabal are able to twist people's minds from infant hood how is anything going to change. Meanwhile you are telling us, don't look that way, the picture is way bigger than the little Jew... You do realize that you are essentially blaming the victims of the most intricate mind control system in human history, a system that essentially has deprived them of any ability of free will based on a rational decision making process, of not exercising their free will in a good enough manner. Meanwhile you give the criminals that created this situation a free pass, worse actually you tell people here not to look at them, point finger etc.

So now you avoid discussing this topic or answering any of these questions in favor of posting in a thread where you think you're free to continue your illogical train of thought.

We've asked some pertinent questions, we've listened to you. so how about you have the decency to reciprocate?

aeondaze

12th December 2014, 05:09 PM

Don't 'forget this thread singular, there are questions that require your attention should you find the decency.

vacuum

12th December 2014, 06:43 PM

I can't speak for singular, but below is an allegorical story which I believe explains much of what she's talking about.

If anyone reads it and would like me to provide a concrete interpretation of what it means, which may answer all the questions above, I will do so.

The tradition transmitted by the great Hermetic Masters affirms that at a crucial moment in the history of humanity, a powerful diabolic Archangel, if we are allowed to call him thus, succeeded in penetrating the earth’s occult defenses and entered its atmosphere, provoking extreme disturbances. To be able to imagine such a being, we suggest reading the book The Lurker at the Threshold by H. P. Lovecraft. According to Hermetic tradition, the direct, albeit unwilling cause of this catastrophe which affects us to this day, was Moses.

Everybody knows that Moses appeared floating in a basket down a river and was subsequently adopted, deceiving the Egyptian priests of the time. They took him for an Egyptian and initiated him into the mysteries of ritual magic, which is a method for making the key notes of Nature vibrate, and thus produce certain phenomena which the operator wishes to achieve. The study of atomic physics shows us that it is theoretically possible to produce changes or transmutations in matter; therefore, there is nothing miraculous about these mutations being achieved by means of secret procedures. In spite of his esoteric identification with Egyptian magic, Moses was always loyal to his ancestral blood. Thus, his most powerful wish was to make himself the leader who would free his people from enslavement, leading them to the promised land. Guided by this desire, and conscious of the powerful forces he had learned to control, Moses had a daring idea: to make a magic pact or alliance with an angel, a divine creature charged with the task of providing him with power and assistance from heaven to save his people.

After lengthy preparations done in deep solitude, he performed the ritual ceremony with magic words and corresponding invocations. In the midst of amazing atmospheric and terrestrial phenomena, an impressive being appeared, making Moses tremble with fear and panic, due to the tremendous force it projected. It will never be possible to know or even imagine the conditions under which the pact between man and heaven was made. The angel agreed to everything. Moses requested and promised his help, demanding the strictest obedience in return. He revealed his name as Y., and requested that as a sign of union, all his followers should undergo a small ritual surgical operation, with a light discharge of blood. Every man who underwent this would come to be a son of Y. The blood that was shed sealed the pact.

From that day forward, Moses was invested with superhuman powers and started doing all kinds of magical feats, converting the Ark of the Covenant into the center of his power. Plagues and calamities fell over Egypt, and non-believers and rebels were struck down by the wrath of Y. In this manner, Moses’ people started the Exodus that would last forty years. Later, Y., the occult power behind the leader, suddenly started to change his procedures by formulating strange demands, all of which had the shedding of blood as the common denominator.

Moses was overcome with fear and started to become aware of the magnitude of the error he committed. He then understood that the divine angel was in truth an angel of darkness, the complete opposite of the luminous power he had intended to invoke.

This infernal angel was a member of the host of shadows. In order to maintain its power and strength, this vampire needed to feed on human blood, an essence charged with the vitality conferred by the divine spark. This is why all through the Exodus, so many blood-shedding incidents occurred, provoked by the occult dictator.

In reality, who was Y.? One could say he was a very ancient being whose evolutionary origin is unknown. Through long periods of cosmic time, this being kept his individuality, but unfortunately his evolution was directed toward negative, dark, and destructive aspects; much like a human being who grows bitter with the passing of time and adopts a negative and destructive concept of life.

Many beings similar to Y. exist in the Universe. Fortunately, the magnetic defenses of the planet constitute an impenetrable barrier against those beings. However, Moses’ magic ritual opened a door and cleared a pathway through which Y. was able to penetrate into the Earth. It is possible to see this as the most transcendental, but unfortunately harmful event in the occult history of humanity. To justify this statement, it is necessary to digress in order to clarify exactly what the planet Earth really is.

One can affirm, without fearing any sarcastic mockery from the ignorant or the semi-wise, that the planet Earth is a human being. It is not something equivalent to a human being, but a man in all aspects of the word.

Hermetic philosophy upholds the truth of reincarnation, but affirms that this takes place only with some people who possess, or have developed within themselves some qualities or characteristics apart from the physical body, which are capable of resisting death. The term “people” refers to human beings, even if these beings may present physical characteristics different from terrestrial man. Regarding reincarnation, Hermeticism teaches that a Hermetic initiate of a high degree can achieve the power to reincarnate consciously, that is, changing physical bodies while maintaining his individuality and a certain degree of memory. Gradually, in the course of successive lives, the initiate grows in spiritual power. His essence or divine spark grows successively more powerful.

In this way, the moment will come when the body of man, in the dimension and shape we are familiar with, is no longer capable of containing or supporting such a vast and powerful essence. For this reason, such a spirit or super-developed essence must seek an adequate physical body that corresponds to his tremendous energetic force. Thus he reincarnates in the body of a new or young planet, and continues his development there, in ways and conditions that are difficult for us to conceive. This is how an extraordinarily evolved human being took the body of the planet Earth and made it his own, in the most perfect shape in the Universe: the sphere.

This sphere is formed by the same basic materials as the human body, which are, in brief, the materials of the Universe. This sphere breathes, moves, thinks, and feels. It has a circulatory, digestive, procreative, and respiratory system. Petroleum is its blood, and it feeds on vegetable, animal, and mineral matter. Sexually, it is hermaphroditic, with a masculine and a feminine hemisphere. It breathes through plant life, and receives its etheric or magnetic nourishment through emitting and receiving antenna, that is, through Homo sapiens.

Once this clarification has been made, and in order to grasp the magnitude of the catastrophe accidentally brought about by Moses with the arrival of Y., we can reveal that this ancient, vengeful, and malicious being expelled the young spirit from the Earth, incarnating in his place. With this act, a dark and bloody era commenced for humanity. A period of suffering, torment, and pain started for the Jewish people as they were converted into the innocent victims of the negative forces of Y. This is the explanation for the great afflictions which the Jews have had to suffer.

Imagine Moses’ despair when he realized the calamity which had occurred and the suffering created for those he had wanted to help. As time passed, Moses understood that nothing had power over Y., as he possessed incalculable malignity. Convinced of this, Moses brought together the wise men of his people and instructed them in the great mystery of the Messiah. These men, using magical rituals, could create a god and fulfill the mystery of theurgy, in the hope that this god could liberate them and save the world from the destructive influence of Y.

Once his instruction was given, Moses climbed Mount Nebo and was never seen alive again.

The wise men who inherited the patriarch’s instructions followed them faithfully, carrying out the Messianic ritual according to the instituted rules. As a result, hundreds of years later, Jesus appeared. He was the “Son of Man” (consider this expression carefully) and the Savior expected by the wise men initiated by Moses.

This is how Jesus was born, under the circumstances that are familiar to all. Hermetic teaching maintains he was the son of a Jewish woman and a Roman father, his progenitor being a Roman soldier and merely an instrument of higher
occult forces.

Why is it said that Mary remained a virgin? This mystery really does not refer to physiological virginity, but to the fact that actually there was no physical contact between Jesus’ real father and Mary. In effect, his spiritual father was a great Hermetic initiate who etherically used the physical body of the Roman soldier to procreate a son. The spiritual seed was transmitted by the occult Master; the physical sperm by the Roman. In this manner, Mary conceived “without losing her virginity.” In those times the term “virginity” was not used to designate maidenhood; it was used to distinguish those women initiated in the secret of the “virgule” as Mary was. The magic rod used by Moses was known as the “virgule.”

Those who have “eyes to see and ears to hear” will understand this. For others, it will produce a dismal silence in their interior, and they will remain in the realm of ignorant sarcasm, suffering the mental emptiness of those who do not want to understand, or worse, the unconscious blindness of those who do not want to see.

Jesus, the god created by man and incarnated in the body of man, was consecrated by the great initiate John the Baptist, otherwise known as the Antechrist. Jesus’ baptism in the river was the means that permitted the first manifestation of Christ in Jesus, the man-god, whose mission was destined since his birth.

From the time of Moses, the Fraternity of Magicians had been attentively observing these events without being able to alter them. The magicians were connoisseurs of the Messianic mystery and had the knowledge that certain wise men were working on this. They decided to help the wise men try to correct the serious anomalies explained before. They were awaiting Jesus’ birth, and they were his occult godfathers who protected and educated him so he could fulfill his double mission.

His first mission was to liberate the chosen people from their occult killer. His second mission was to save the world in general from the invisible vampire who called himself Y. In order to begin a new era on Earth under the Christian motto “love one another,” replacing the dictum of “an eye
for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.”

At the same time, Jesus was an active member of the Fraternity of Magicians, receiving support and inspiration from all of them. However, the great Masters maintain that Jesus failed in his mission, or more accurately, that he only achieved partial success, since he did not reach his goal. This refers only to Jesus, however, and not to Christ. In order to truly understand Jesus, it is necessary to consider his triple personality: 1. Jesus the man, 2. Jesus the God (created by man), and 3. Christ (who manifested himself through Jesus). Christ was an angel, a solar spirit who descended from Heaven to manifest himself as the supreme power of the Father on earth.

Jesus and his twelve disciples are the symbol of a solar and cosmic mystery. Hermetic science teaches that our solar system is composed of twelve planets plus the sun, an analogy for the twelve apostles and Christ, and that the unknown planets will be discovered in time.

We will speak no more of Jesus; we have perhaps already said too much. We will only add that the crucifixion was an expected drama in which Jesus’ blood had to be shed so that Christ could in turn incarnate in the planet Earth and displace Y., definitively casting him out of our atmosphere. However, as we have already mentioned, this mission had only a relative success. Christ incarnated in the planet Earth, but Y. could not be expelled. Since then, both govern the planet.

Christ’s force acts in the world through the representatives of the Fraternity of Magicians. These men direct Hermetic schools in which the student can develop his spiritual force to the point of disintegration of his animal soul and liberation from the influence of Y., who can only act through primitive and animal instincts such as hate, envy, lust, greed, pride, and vanity.

In this way, the Spiritual Beacon is kept alight to illuminate the select spirits who are potentially capable of converting themselves into fully developed human beings and abandoning their sapiens condition.

Every person who reaches this condition is converted into a center of Christic irradiation and is therefore another obstacle for Y.‘s influence. The naive say that Christ will return to the planet Earth. But Christ is on Earth! He needs only to be removed from the cross by the same humanity who nailed him to it.

Until that time, wars will continue. Great numbers of people will die and their vitality will be absorbed by Y., the great occult force behind these conflicts. None of this will end until this being is conquered.

The real Antichrist is Y., and he has spread his negative influence throughout his followers, those of bestial instincts, who in turn have incorporated this vibration into the multitude. The multitude is composed of amorphous and blind entities, receptors of any force of sufficient power. In this way, Y.‘s principles incorporated in the collective unconscious of humanity motivate the philosophy of “an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.” Trapped by this malignant force, people live diabolically: hating, destroying, stealing, killing their brothers, returning evil with more evil, selling out their honesty and honor, enslaving the weak, exploiting the unprotected, and denigrating the just. Luckily, there are many who act contrary to all this. If this were not so, life would be unbearable. They are the ones who somehow have received a true Christian influence (not necessarily religious) and have higher values than usual.

Religions have a positive family and social influence, but unfortunately on solely spiritual grounds they do not have much to offer, and generally they try to check this deficiency with the indiscriminate use of the banner of Christ.

The Fraternity of Magicians does not derive its power from Christ, nor speak in his name. The Fraternity only exalts his values and shows or narrates events which the world should know, so that the chosen (the true humans) can reaffirm their conviction and loyalty to a superior spiritual life. The power of these Magicians comes from their harmony with, respect for, and obedience to cosmic laws, and the profound and serene spiritual condition they have reached. Their spirituality places them in a magical relationship with God, the Great Universal Father, who is recognized by the Hermeticists as the first cause of the origin of all and the great force of order and creation.

To speak about Christ is to explain the esoteric side of the psycho-social phenomenology of the world today. In its innocence, sapiens believes that everything in life is as it appears on the surface, and that things must surely be as the vast majority say they are. When some people hear of the esoteric side of events or the occult causes of different phenomena, they smile unbelievingly, arguing with infantile logic that “if that were true, it would be made known by the press” or, “it would have been taught at school or in the university” or, “well documented books would exist on the subject.” That way of thinking nullifies all progress, because if everyone’s belief was the same, no one would bother to study or investigate little-known phenomena.

Despite obstacles already mentioned, sapiens in his individual manifestation (not as a species) can have latent superior qualities and characteristics, which may lead him to partially understand Hermetic truths. Motivated by this knowledge, sapiens can awaken to a superior reality. The sapiens individual can save himself from the lethargic destiny of humanity and eventually reach the world of the Hermeticists, magicians, or awakened men.

Moses, a man of strength and wisdom, was driven by his yearning for freedom to commit an error of cosmic magnitude. According to the great Hermetic wise men, this error nearly destroyed the solar system. To clarify this statement, the solar system can be compared to the composition of an atom, borrowing on the Hermetic theme of “as above, so below.” In this case, Y.‘s rise to power could be seen as an arbitrary substitution of an electron, which changed the spiritual nucleus of the Earth.

This is one of the many lessons, which oblige the Fraternity of Magicians to strictly guard Hermetic secrets. The Fraternity will only give instruction in higher knowledge to those who have demonstrated their strength, their moral and spiritual purity, and the rectitude of their intentions. (John Baines, The Stellar Man, pp. 5-23)

singular_me

12th December 2014, 06:53 PM

I am NOT blaming the victims because I do HELP people all around me, and as much as I can... I am about to start giving lectures and not especially based on Thrive... I am an activist and KNOW that the truth must be spread no matter what.

You do NOT understand my take on existence NOR my grasp about reality. I have seen that in the pyramid thread, you do not want to deal with anything esoteric because you are borderline agnostic/atheist, many times you stated that it was all some kind of improvable nambo-jumbo.

There is a big difference between *acknowledging* the inner workings of the Greater Reality and blaming people. Yes, I repeat: this "is" a free will universe and there is nothing that you nor I can change.

I care about Humanity AND I take action on MY level because I understand that compassion and empathy RULE the game in the end.

What Free will? People that get brain injured from early age by Jew mandated vaccines, made worse by TV-programming, and psychotropic drugs, and an education system geared towards rightthink for dull minds never even got a chance at free will. As long as the jewish cabal are able to twist people's minds from infant hood how is anything going to change. Meanwhile you are telling us, don't look that way, the picture is way bigger than the little Jew... You do realize that you are essentially blaming the victims of the most intricate mind control system in human history, a system that essentially has deprived them of any ability of free will based on a rational decision making process, of not exercising their free will in a good enough manner. Meanwhile you give the criminals that created this situation a free pass, worse actually you tell people here not to look at them, point finger etc.

singular_me

12th December 2014, 08:46 PM

you really have an agenda... I didnt start this thread. The posting of vacuum that left you in awe, IS PRECISELY what I believe in and instead of getting a better understanding of what I am saying, you still stalk with your senseless arguments.

My reality and yours are polar opposite, there is no middle of the road at this stage, I am afraid.

ooh, and you know what? secrets in plain sight volume 2 will be soon released. And guess what? the location of ancient babylon and hollywood are on the same meridian. :) How can this be? .... by the way, volume 1 has gotten 6 millions of hits and counting on youtube. This guy is about to become huge... the type of guy that is really my cup of tea intellectually... unlike you.

Don't 'forget this thread singular, there are questions that require your attention should you find the decency.

singular_me

12th December 2014, 09:21 PM

I can't speak for singular, but below is an allegorical story which I believe explains much of what she's talking about.

hey Vacuum, I am reading now. I am familiar with Hermeticism, its fundamental principles but thats pretty much it.

If anyone reads it and would like me to provide a concrete interpretation of what it means, which may answer all the questions above, I will do so.
very courageous :)

singular_me

12th December 2014, 10:19 PM

old steel

12th December 2014, 10:24 PM

The Sexodus, Part 2: Women giving up on men and going into celibacy.

Link to follow.....

Horn

12th December 2014, 11:36 PM

http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by vacuum

Chastity is what avoids the problems associated with mating. This is why it is the path to higher spiritual traditions and teachings, because it does away with all the effort and struggle and resulting arms buildup between sexes.

Yes, human culture went that way at one point, the result was billions of souls bread to fight religious wars.

The only thing you should expect from any culture is cheese, the bulk of slices are flimsy and wholly.

Neuro

13th December 2014, 02:34 AM

I am NOT blaming the victims because I do HELP people all around me, and as much as I can... I am about to start giving lectures and not especially based on Thrive... I am an activist and KNOW that the truth must be spread no matter what. You do NOT understand my take on existence NOR my grasp about reality. I have seen that in the pyramid thread, you do not want to deal with anything esoteric because you are borderline agnostic/atheist, many times you stated that it was all some kind of improvable nambo-jumbo.There is a big difference between *acknowledging* the inner workings of the Greater Reality and blaming people. Yes, I repeat: this "is" a free will universe and there is nothing that you nor I can change. I care about Humanity AND I take action on MY level because I understand that compassion and empathy RULE the game in the end.Sure I can see that having knowledge of esoteric/magic/occult can be useful. After all it is the origin of Fiat Money. It is conjured out of nothing, and it's only value lies in the fact that a critical mass of people believed it to have value. But really it is worthless and it is the work of Babylonian illusionists fooling people with their mumbo-jumbo and essentially stealing their wealth by doing it.As far as I have understood you, you believe that with knowledge of esoteric/magic/occult you can do good... Do you have any concrete example of that? As you say I believe it to be a intricate method of creating illusions and lying to people, at the expense of those fooled, or mumbo-jumbo designed to cover up the truth.I gave you a huge example where esoteric has been used for evil purposes (Stealing wealth through Fiat Money). Give me one that proves it can be used for good, and that it is just not mumbo-jumbo to fool the audience.

I am not an atheist. I just don't think God or whatever you want to call it cares about our little lives. More of a grand designer working in a lab figuratively speaking. May seem like an atheist viewpoint from a distance though. I do believe we are spirited beings though and I don't think the spirit dies either and I see the borders between spirits as fuzzy, and I believe in reincarnation. But I usually prefer to keep my beliefs to myself, as everyone seems to have one that is diametrically opposed to others in some way or another. I prefer to discuss things that can be proven or at least supported by our senses and knowledge so that we can at least agree to a basic foundation of the discussion

EE_

13th December 2014, 03:09 AM

EE, the programing has always existed. It has been in place for millennia. Because of technology and medical advances it just goes faster. Do you think the average roman did see his empire coming to an end, or understood the problems with imperialism and supremacy? The elites *always* did or do...

In another thread, I also said that I do not expect the slightest mass awakening without a major shock to the system first. And until then, I will be a lone wolverine trying help where it is possible.

I have written a little bit more than 15 articles about the banksters over a 6 year period of time. I lost several friends trying to explain the jewish hands behind the scene. I divorce because I couldnt stand to see my partner going to work for a major TV broadcast... then I threw in the towel and I embarked on a road trip... became a farmer for 2 years... and now re-inventing myself, and hopefully travel the world and give public lectures.

I do not think it is essential to point at the jews at this stage because they have secured all exits for themselves.... even worse, mentioning the word "jew" strengthens them further. The quote in my sig really is the proof that the laws of physics also work on a mental level. Thats the way I see it... the strategy you prefer has been tried for centuries and it didnt help, so really I am looking for another one...

But sure EE, I encourage you to pursue your own path to get rid of the elite-cliques.

Yes, we must fight the battle as we see fit. I only hope your fight doesn't send people in the wrong direction looking for an invisible enemy and they just lose interest.

I believe you must first identify the 6 million pound enemy in the room. People are waking up to see them.
As people wake up, they will begin to treat the Jew with suspicion and distrust. This will hopefully hamper the plans of these Jews and eventually drive them back into the shadows.

If enough people wake up, including the good Jews, more will start speaking out.
Many Orthodox Jews already are speaking out.

Eventually, we will see more and more countries expelling Jews once again, which will bring the criminal Jew into the national spotlight even more.

The goal is to break and remove them from all positions of power, try them for their crimes and strip them of stolen wealth.

Don't think it can happen? It already has, and in the US.

[1] On December 17, 1862, General Ulysses Grant wrote to the Assistant Adjutant General of the US Army:

"I have long since believed that in spite of all the vigilance that can be infused into post commanders, the specie regulations of the Treasury Department have been violated, and that mostly by the Jews and other unprincipled traders. So well satisfied have I been of this that I instructed the commanding officer at Columbus to refuse all permits to Jews to come South, and I have frequently had them expelled from the department. But they come in with their carpet-sacks in spite of all that can be done to prevent it. The Jews seem to be a privileged class that can travel anywhere. They will land at any woodyard on the river and make their way through the country. If not permitted to buy cotton themselves, they will act as agents for someone else, who will be at a military post with a Treasury permit to receive cotton and pay for it in Treasury notes which the Jew will buy at an agreed rate, paying gold."

Also, on December 17, 1862, General Ulysses S. Grant issued General Orders No. 11. This order banished all Jews from Tennessee's western military.

General Orders No. 11 declared: "1. The Jews, as a class, violating every regulation of trade established by the Treasury Department, are hereby expelled from the Department.

"2. Within 24 hours from the receipt of this order by Post Commanders, they will see that all of this class of people are furnished with passes required to leave, and anyone returning after such notification, will be arrested and held in confinement until an opportunity occurs of sending them out as prisoners, unless furnished with permits from these headquarters.

"3. No permits will be given these people to visit headquarters for the purpose of making personal application for trade permits.

"By order of Major Gen. Grant.

"Jno. A. Rawlings,
Assistant Adjutant General"

We Just need one great man to speak up without fear of death. That's how it begins.

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The International Jew the World's Foremost Problem
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singular_me

13th December 2014, 05:41 AM

last time I am addressing you in this thread as we are from different planets:

You refuse to see the esoteric aspect (ie: the love vs fear natural law) in what is happening to humanity, then you tell me that people are given not chance to fight back... it is indeed happening because people cannot merge the material with the spiritual world intellectually (body, the mind and the spirit, the 3 are deeply fragmented, very ancient fragmentation).... why the heck do you think the NWO is so bent on "divide and conquer"... as a matter of fact "Divide and Conquer" is itself esoteric in nature (duality vs non duality Natural Law) because of what I am saying here. And we all rightfully see where their esoteric mantra have led us.

More than 2000 years that various groups (the founding fathers included and they for sure knew better since they were insiders) have tried to expose/fight them.... did it work??? so where the hell lies *their* strength in... in the full understanding of Natural Laws, which are portrayed as occult (hidden, dark) and esoteric (mambo-jumbo) to the masses. Religions saying: dont go there.. Rejection/denial of Natural Laws is an inertia that empowers them even more, that is as simple as that.

Natural Laws are so powerful that they can and will destroy everything and that is why the NWO (masters of chaos) keeps us in state of permanent illusions and have created a web of lies... so everybody fights to hold dear what they have materially and intellectually. This is what HT means when talking of the Truth.

The babylonian nefarious success is the absolute evidence that *thought* is esoteric as it can project itself and become reality.... another Natural Law... we are what we project. But being over focused on the NWO is missing the HUGE opportunity to understand that the *a brand new thought* can UNDO their tyranny.

But I digress as I know you dont want to understand what I am saying here... so who cares. I gave you enough of my time already and am not ready for another pyramid thread. Really.

And I agree with people like Bruce Lipton, an alternative epigentic researcher that the way we think influence our DNA also encoding emotions and perceptions (which also have been passed on by previous generations) and that it is compounding the brainwashing.....and this is the level I intent to reach out people: non dual Awareness. My innerverse has fully integrated the supernatural/esoteric aspect of life as I go by the Natural Laws. This is my choice and you cannot do anything about it.

Sure I can see that having knowledge of esoteric/magic/occult can be useful. After all it is the origin of Fiat Money. It is conjured out of nothing, and it's only value lies in the fact that a critical mass of people believed it to have value. But really it is worthless and it is the work of Babylonian illusionists fooling people with their mumbo-jumbo and essentially stealing their wealth by doing it.As far as I have understood you, you believe that with knowledge of esoteric/magic/occult you can do good... Do you have any concrete example of that? As you say I believe it to be a intricate method of creating illusions and lying to people, at the expense of those fooled, or mumbo-jumbo designed to cover up the truth.I gave you a huge example where esoteric has been used for evil purposes (Stealing wealth through Fiat Money). Give me one that proves it can be used for good, and that it is just not mumbo-jumbo to fool the audience.

I am not an atheist. I just don't think God or whatever you want to call it cares about our little lives. More of a grand designer working in a lab figuratively speaking. May seem like an atheist viewpoint from a distance though. I do believe we are spirited beings though and I don't think the spirit dies either and I see the borders between spirits as fuzzy, and I believe in reincarnation. But I usually prefer to keep my beliefs to myself, as everyone seems to have one that is diametrically opposed to others in some way or another. I prefer to discuss things that can be proven or at least supported by our senses and knowledge so that we can at least agree to a basic foundation of the discussion

singular_me

13th December 2014, 06:01 AM

vacuum

13th December 2014, 06:43 AM

As far as I have understood you, you believe that with knowledge of esoteric/magic/occult you can do good... Do you have any concrete example of that? As you say I believe it to be a intricate method of creating illusions and lying to people, at the expense of those fooled, or mumbo-jumbo designed to cover up the truth.I gave you a huge example where esoteric has been used for evil purposes (Stealing wealth through Fiat Money). Give me one that proves it can be used for good, and that it is just not mumbo-jumbo to fool the audience.

Neuro, here's a presentation that really gets into a lot of these concepts in an intellectual way. Perhaps you missed the thread the first time around...it's 20 pages long but you have no comments in it.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?76295-MUST-WATCH-presentation-on-Natural-Law

The presentation is quite long, so I understand if you don't have the time/interest to watch it all. It's interesting stuff though, I sat through the whole thing right when I found it.

Neuro

13th December 2014, 06:56 AM

last time I am addressing you in this thread as we are from different planets:

You refuse to see the esoteric aspect (ie: the love vs fear natural law) in what is happening to humanity, then you tell me that people are given not chance to fight back... it is indeed happening because people cannot merge the material with the spiritual world intellectually (body, the mind and the spirit, the 3 are deeply fragmented, very ancient fragmentation).... why the heck do you think the NWO is so bent on "divide and conquer"... as a matter of fact "Divide and Conquer" is itself esoteric in nature (duality vs non duality Natural Law) because of what I am saying here. And we all rightfully see where their esoteric mantra have led us.

More than 2000 years that various groups (the founding fathers included and they for sure knew better since they were insiders) have tried to expose/fight them.... did it work??? so where the hell lies *their* strength in... in the full understanding of Natural Laws, which are portrayed as occult (hidden, dark) and esoteric (mambo-jumbo) to the masses. Religions saying: dont go there.. Rejection/denial of Natural Laws is an inertia that empowers them even more, that is as simple as that.

Natural Laws are so powerful that they can and will destroy everything and that is why the NWO (masters of chaos) keeps us in state of permanent illusions and have created a web of lies... so everybody fights to hold dear what they have materially and intellectually. This is what HT means when talking of the Truth.

The babylonian nefarious success is the absolute evidence that *thought* is esoteric as it can project itself and become reality.... another Natural Law... we are what we project. But being over focused on the NWO is missing the HUGE opportunity to understand that the *a brand new thought* can UNDO their tyranny.

But I digress as I know you dont want to understand what I am saying here... so who cares. I gave you enough of my time already and am not ready for another pyramid thread. Really.

And I agree with people like Bruce Lipton, an alternative epigentic researcher that the way we think influence our DNA also encoding emotions and perceptions (which also have been passed on by previous generations) and that it is compounding the brainwashing.....and this is the level I intent to reach out people: non dual Awareness. My innerverse has fully integrated the supernatural/esoteric aspect of life as I go by the Natural Laws. This is my choice and you cannot do anything about it.
Yeah I can see you have problems discussing things with people who don't have the same opinion and can confirm your bias, but instead question your beliefs. I suppose you will not expand on what positive examples there is of your 'Esoteric Natural Law'. You claim people and groups have spent the last 2000 years trying to fight the Babylonian/NWO/Elite, meanwhile you say practically anyone who has any major form of power has been part of them. So exactly who is it that have been fighting them and lost in the end? Julius Ceasar? Charlemagne? Templar nights? Charles XII? Napoleon Bonaparte? Adolf Hitler? Who on earth would you say have fought them and lost?

BTW you do realize that you bring in new discussion points instead of answering the ongoing... For instance Love and Fear natural law? I'll engage you though, describe that natural law!

Horn

13th December 2014, 06:57 AM

utopia is getting closer, for the best and the worse.

I'm of the opinion that belief and practice towards utopia is primary reason for it being obsolete.

EE_

13th December 2014, 07:10 AM

I see all this EE, a serious question now did the american revolution help resolve anything? I even see the founders as puppets in the big chess game... they had a profound knowledge as insiders and it all played in the hands of the banksters. I dont look at the fights and battles but their aftermaths....

the world is in need of a brand new, never experimented strategy/thinking... utopia is getting closer, for the best and the worse.

Do you mean the Jewish Revolution of America? It resolved much for the Jewish Bankers...not for America.

The American Revolution

In order to understand how men who obtained control of the Bank of England, and the British National Debt, also obtained control of the trade and commerce, and the monetary system of Britain’s American colonies, it will be sufficient if we pick up the threads of the story at the time Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790) went over to England to represent the interests of the men who had been associated with him in building up the prosperity of the American Colonies.
Robert L. Owen, former chairman, Committee on Banking and Currency, United States Senate, explains the matter on page 98 of Senate Document No. 23. He states that when associates of the Rothschild’s asked Franklin how he accounted for the prosperous conditions prevailing in the colonies, he replied : “That is simple — In the Colonies we issue our own money. It is called Colonial Script — We issue it in proper proportion to the demands of trade and industry.”

Robert L. Owen remarked that not very long after the Rothschilds heard of this they realized the opportunity to exploit the situation with considerable profit to themselves. The obvious thing to do was to have a law passed prohibiting the Colonial officials from issuing their own money and make it compulsory for them to obtain the money they required through the medium of the Banks. Amschel Mayer Rothschild was still in Germany but he was supplying the British Government with Mercenary Troops at £8 per man. Such was his influence that in 1764 he succeeded, through the Directors of the Bank of England, in having laws passed in accordance with his dictates.

The authorities in the Colonies had to discard their Script money. They had to mortgage the Colonial assets and securities to the Bank of England in order to borrow the money they needed to carry on business. Referring to those facts Benjamin Franklin stated. “In one year the conditions were so reversed that the era of prosperity ended, and a depression set in, to such an extent that the streets of the Colonies were filled with unemployed.” Franklin stated : “The Bank of England refused to give more than 50 per cent of the face value of the Script when turned over as required by law. The circulating medium of exchange was thus reduced by half”.[1]

Mr. Franklin disclosed the primary cause of the Revolution when he said: “The Colonies would gladly have borne the little tax on tea and other matters had it not been that England took away from the Colonies their money, which created unemployment and dissatisfaction.”

Dissatisfaction became general, but very few Colonials realized that the taxation, and other economic sanctions being imposed on them, were the results of the activities of a small group of International Gangsters, who had succeeded in obtaining control of the British Treasury, after they had obtained control of the Bank of England. It has already been shown how they jumped Britain’s National Debt from £1,250,000 in 1694 to £16,000,000 in 1698, and increased it progressively to £885,000,000 by 1815, and £22,503,532,372 by 1945.

On April 19th 1775, the first armed clashes between British and Colonials took place at Lexington and Concord. On May 10th the Second Continental Congress met at Philadelphia and George Washington was placed at the head of the Naval and Military Force. He took command at Cambridge. On July 4th, 1776 Congress adopted the Declaration of Independence.

For the next seven years the International money-lenders urged and financed the Colonial War. The Rothschilds made plenty of money supplying the British with German Hessian soldiers with which to fight the Colonists. The average Britisher had no quarrel with his American cousins.[2] He secretly sympathized with them.

On October 19th, 1781 the British Commander, General Cornwallis, surrendered his whole army, including what was left of the Hessians. On September 3rd, 1783 the Independence of the United States was recognized by the Peace Treaty of Paris. The only real losers were the British people. Their National Debt had been increased tremendously and the International money-lenders (who were in reality the Secret Power behind the World Revolutionary Movement) had succeeded in the first stage of the long range plans towards the dissolution of the British Empire.[3]

The agents of the international bankers worked industriously to prevent unity. By keeping the various states in America separated it was much easier to exploit them. To prove the continuity of the Foreign money-lenders meddling in the affairs of every nation it is sufficient to record that the Foundling Fathers of the United States meeting at Philadelphia in 1787 talked over the importance of bringing in some form of legislation which would protect them against the exploitation of the International Bankers.

The agents of the international bankers organized active lobbying. They used intimidation. But despite all their efforts paragraph 5, of Section 8, of the First article of the new American Constitution read : “CONGRESS SHALL HAVE THE POWER TO COIN MONEY AND REGULATE THE VALUE THEREOF”.

The vast majority of the United States’ citizens consider the Constitution an honoured, and almost sacred, document. All laws passed since then are SUPPOSED to conform with the provisions of the Constitution. The fact that subsequent legislation dealing with finance and currency, have been in violation of the provisions laid down in Article 1, Section 8, paragraph 5, proves how powerful the bankers have been in the political field.

The history of how the international money-lenders obtained economic control of the United States in order to further their long range plans is decidedly interesting.

Using the good old reliable Joint Stock Company principle, the Directors of the Bank of England appointed one of their hirelings named Alexander Hamilton, to represent their interests in the United States. In 1780 this man, a supposed patriot, proposed the establishment of a Federal Bank. It was to be owned by PRIVATE INTERESTS as an alternative to those who insisted the issue and control of money should remain in the hands of the government elected by the people. Alexander Hamilton suggested that his proposed Federal Bank be capitalized for $12,000,000. The Bank of England would provide $10,000,000, the remaining $2,000,000 would be allocated to wealthy people in America. In 1783 Alexander Hamilton, and his business partner Robert Morris, organized the Bank of America. As Financial Superintendent of the Continental Congress, Morris was able to reduce the United States Treasury to a state of indigence by the end of seven years of war. This is another illustration of how the Secret Power use wars to further their plan for the W.R.M. To make absolutely sure the United States’ Financial cupboard was bare, Hamilton transferred the last $250,000 from the Treasury Department, and invested it in the Bank’s Capital Stock. The directors of the Bank of America were agents of the Bank of England. The Illuminati controlled both. The fact that they sold their souls to Satan in order to gain the world is the truth they wish to conceal.

The Fathers of American Independence realized that if the Directors of the Bank of England obtained monopolistic control of America’s money system they would recover any money they had lost by the simple process of mortgage and foreclosure. The net result of this struggle for economic control of the nation was that Congress refused to grant the Bank of America a charter.

Benjamin Franklin died in 1790 and the agents of the International Jewish money-lenders immediately made another bid to obtain control of America’s finances. They succeeded in having Alexander Hamilton appointed Secretary of the Treasury. Hamilton had the Government charter the bank his principals had been clamouring for. It was then a simple matter to usurp the rights to issue currency based on public and private debts. The most forceful arguments the bankers’ agents had used to defeat their opposition was that money issued by Congress, on the credit of the Nation, would be valueless in dealing abroad; while money obtained on loan from the bankers, at interest, would be welcomed as legal security in all kinds of transactions. Thus the public fell prey to the exploitation of the men who professed to be their friends. Alexander Hamilton, and Morris, were never more than hirelings of the international money-lenders.

The new Bank was capitalized for $35,000,000. Of this amount $28,000,000 was subscribed by European bankers, which the Rothschilds controlled. It is suspected that the international bankers decided that Hamilton knew too much and couldn’t be trusted any longer. He was inveigled into a duel with an expert named Aaron Burr, who acted as his executioner.

While American citizens were used as Front men by the international bankers, policy was determined in Europe. The Rothschild interests gave orders that the American bankers were to extend almost unlimited credit for good security and put plenty of money into circulation. The propaganda media played up on the highest notes of optimism. Prosperity was assured. The Americans were destined to become the greatest people on Earth. Everybody was urged to invest in the future of his great nation.

When everyone of any worth had mortgaged himself to the hilt, orders were given to tighten up credits, recall outstanding loans, and reduce the amount of money in circulation. An artificial depression was created. Citizens could not meet their financial obligations and the Money Barons obtained millions of dollars worth of property, and securities, at a fraction of their normal value. Admittedly everything was done by due process of law, but Al Capone and his gangsters, were gentlemen in comparison with the international bankers.

Many great Americans have commented on this phase of the history of the United States, but their expressed opinions don’t seem to have prevented their successors from falling into the same traps and pit-falls. John Adams (1735-1826) wrote to Thomas Jefferson in 1787. He said : “All the perplexities, confusion and distress arise not from the defects of the Constitution, not from want of honour and virtue so much as, from downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit and circulation.”

Thomas Jefferson said : “I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a money aristocracy that has set governments at defiance. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs”.

Andrew Jackson said : “If Congress has a right, under the Constitution to issue paper money, it was given them to use by themselves, not to be delegated to individuals or corporations.”

These outspoken comments warned the International Bankers to expect serious opposition when their Charter for the Bank of the United States ran out in 1811. To prepare for this eventuality Amschel Mayer Rothschild, had obtained absolute control of the Bank of England in order to strengthen his control of the World’s economy. His son Nathan had been specially trained to undertake this tremendous task as previously mentioned. Nathan proved to have exceptional talent and ability for financial affairs. He trained himself only to think in terms of profits, just as the professional politician thinks only in terms of votes. In 1798, at the early age of twenty-one, he went over from Germany to secure control of the Bank of England. He was entrusted with the modest sum of £20,000. To demonstrate his financial wizardry he speculated, and in a comparatively short time [3 years], he increased his capital to £60,000. By 1811, when the matter of the renewal of the Charter for the Bank of America was due for a hearing, Nathan Rothschild was in control of the International Bankers. He issued his ultimatum. “Either the application for renewal of the charter is granted or the United States will find itself involved in a most disastrous war.”

President Andrew Jackson didn’t believe the International Bankers would foment a war. He decided to call their bluff. He told them bluntly : “You are a den of thieves — vipers. I intend to rout you out, and by the Eternal God I will rout you out.” But President Jackson had underestimated the power of the Rothschilds. Nathan Rothschild issued orders. “Teach these impudent Americans a lesson. Bring them back to Colonial status.”

The British Government, always subservient to the Bank of England, launched the war of 1812. This war was calculated to impoverish the United States to such an extent the legislators would have to plead for peace, and seek financial aid. Nathan Rothschild stipulated that no financial aid would be forthcoming except in return for the renewal of the charter for the Bank of America.

Nathan Rothschild’s plan worked to perfection. It mattered not to him, how many men were killed and wounded; how many women were widowed; how many children were made orphans; how many people were rendered destitute. He and his co-conspirators rejoiced in the fact that they had achieved their objective and in so doing they had created more and more dissatisfaction amongst the masses of the people who blamed the blundering policies of their own governments, while the Secret Power behind the scenes remained unsuspected by all except a very few people.

In 1816 The United States Congress granted the renewal of the Charter for the Bank of the United States as requested. There are many authorities who state quite frankly that the Members of Congress were bribed, or threatened, into voting for the legislation which put the American people back into financial bondage.[4]

The men who plot and plan to secure economic and political control of the world don’t hesitate to prostitute Love to achieve their ends, any more than they hesitate to order murder committed to rid them of men who stand in their way. In 1857 the marriage of Lenora, daughter of Lionel Rothschild, to her cousin Alfonso of Paris (they believe in keeping things within the family) brought many international personages to London, England, where the ceremony was performed. Benjamin Disraeli, the noted English Statesman, who was made Prime Minister in 1868 and again in 1874, was invited to be present.

Disraeli is reported to have said during his speech on that memorable occasion — “Under this roof are the heads of the family of Rothschild, a name famous in every capital of Europe, and every division of the globe. If you like we shall divide the United States into two parts, one for you James, and one for you Lionel. Napoleon will do exactly — and all that I advise him to do; and to Bismarck will be suggested such an intoxicating programme as to make him our abject slave.”

History records that Judah P. Benjamin, a Rothschild relative, was appointed as their professional strategist in America. The American Civil War, which split the Union in two, became an accomplished fact.

Napoleon III was persuaded by the Bankers to extend his French Empire into Mexico. The British Government was persuaded that the Northern States could be made into a colony again. The Civil War in the United States was an economic war brought about by the International Bankers. By applying economic pressure it was a simple matter to aggravate the economic difficulties the Northern States encountered after the slaves had been given their freedom. Abraham Lincoln admitted “No nation can long endure half free and half slaves.”[5]

The international bankers loaned unlimited credit to all forces engaged by the South fighting the forces of the North. They loaned Napoleon III, 201,500,000 francs for his Mexican campaign. When the Confederacy needed assistance in 1863 the Powers-that-be offered Napoleon Texas and Louisiana in exchange for French intervention against the Northern States.

The Tzar of Russia heard of these preposterous offers and he informed the Governments of England and France that should they actively intervene, and give military aid to the South, Russia would consider such action as a declaration of war against the Imperial Russian Empire. To strengthen his ultimatum Russian warships were sent to New York and San Francisco and placed at Lincoln’s disposal.[6]

When the Northern authorities found themselves in financial difficulties the International Bankers didn’t refuse to loan the money. They simply stipulated that the rate of interest to the Northern States would be 28 per cent. After all, they were in business as money-lenders. An important aspect of the American Civil War is that it would in all probability have reached a conclusion in a few months had not the international money-lenders made fresh loans. These loans were usury. They were based on terms and rates of interest which were calculated to give international bankers control of the economy of the whole country. When they considered it time they ended the war.

Lincoln tried to break the financial bonds with which his Northern States were bound. To him Article 1, Section 8, paragraph 5 of the Constitution was sufficient authority. He disregarded the bankers’ overtures. He caused $450,000,000 of Honest money to be printed. He placed the Credit of the Nation as security behind this money. The International Bankers retaliated by causing a Bill to be passed through Congress ruling that Lincoln’s Greenbacks would not be accepted as payment of interest on government bonds nor import duties. The Bankers caused Lincoln’s money to become almost valueless by refusing to accept the Greenbacks except at a heavy discount. Having beaten down the value of Greenback dollars to 30 cents they bought them all in. They then turned around and bought government bonds with them demanding dollar for dollar value. In this way they overcame a serious threat and made 70 cents on the dollar.

An article, inspired by the International Bankers, appeared in the London Times. It concerned Abraham Lincoln’s issue of Greenbacks. It said : “If this mischievous financial policy, which has its origin in North America, shall become endurated down to a fixture, then that Government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off debts and be without debt. It will have all the money necessary to carry on its commerce. It will become prosperous without precedent in the history of the world. The brains, and wealth of all countries will go to North America. THAT COUNTRY MUST BE DESTROYED OR IT WILL DESTROY EVERY MONARCHY ON THE GLOBE.”[7]

The Hazard Circular was supplied to all banking interests from overseas. It read “Slavery is likely to be abolished by war power. This, I and my European friends are in favour of, because slavery is but the owning of labour, and carries with it the care of the labourers, while the European plan, led on by England, is that capital shall control labour by controlling wages.

“The great debt, that Capitalists will see is made out of the war, must be used to control the value of money. To accomplish this government bonds must be used as a banking basis. We are now waiting for the Secretary of the Treasury of the United States to make that recommendation. It will not do to allow Greenbacks, as they are called, to circulate as money for any length of time as we cannot control that. But we can control the bonds, and through them, the banking issues.”

The Bankers financed the election campaigns of enough Senators, and Congressmen, to assure them that the National Banking Act would become law. The National Banking Act did become law in 1863 despite the vigorous protests of President Lincoln. Thus the International Bankers won another round. The people of the world had been brought one step nearer to economic, political and religious bondage.

On the letter head of Rothschilds’ Brothers, Bankers, London, England, under date of June 25th, 1863, the following was written to Messrs. Ikelheimer, Morton and Vandergould, No. 3 Wall Street, New York, U.S.A.

Dear Sirs :

A Mr. John Sherman has written us from a town in Ohio, U.S.A., as to profits that may be made in the National Banking business, under a recent act of your Congress; a copy of this Act accompanies this letter. Apparently this Act has been drawn up on the plan formulated by the British Bankers Association, and by that Association recommended to our American friends, as one that, if enacted into law, would prove highly profitable to the banking fraternity throughout the world.

Mr. Sherman declares that there has never been such an opportunity for capitalists to accumulate money as that presented by this act. It gives the National Bank almost complete control of the National finance. The few who understand the system he says will either be so interested in its profits, or so dependent on its favours, that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of the people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantages that capital derives from the system, will bear its burden without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests ...

Your respectful servants,
ROTHSCHILD BROTHERS
In reply to the above letter Messrs. Ikelheimer, Morton and Vandergould replied :

Dear Sirs :
We beg to acknowledge receipt of your letter of June 25th, in which you refer to a communication received from Honourable John Sherman, of Ohio, with reference to the advantages, and profits, of an American investment under the provisions of the National Banking Act.

Mr. Sherman possesses, in a marked degree, the distinguishing characteristics of a successful financier. His temperament is such that whatever his feelings may be they never cause him to lose sight of the main chance. He is young, shrewd and ambitious. He has fixed his eyes upon the Presidency of the United States and already is a member of Congress (he has financial ambitions too). He rightfully thinks he has everything to gain by being friendly with men, and institutions, having large financial resources, and which at times are not too particular in their methods, either of obtaining government aid, or protecting themselves against unfriendly legislation.

As to the organization of the National Bank here, and the nature and profits of such investments, we beg leave to refer to our printed circulars enclosed herein, viz :

Any number of persons not less than five may organize a National Banking Corporation.

Except in cities having 6,000 inhabitants or less, a National Bank cannot have less than $1,000,000 capital.

They are private corporations organized for private gain, and select their own officers and employees.

They are not subject to control of State Laws, except as Congress may from time to time provide.

They may receive deposits and loan the same for their own benefit. They can buy and sell bonds and discount paper and do general banking business.

To start a National Bank on the scale of $1,000,000 will require purchase of that amount (par value) of U.S. Government Bonds. U.S. Bonds can now be purchased at 50 per cent discount, so that a bank of $1,000,000 capital can be started at this time for only $500,000. These bonds must be deposited with the United States Treasury at Washington as security for the National Bank currency, that will be furnished by the government to the bank.

The United States Government will pay 6 per cent interest on all bonds in gold, the interest being paid semi-annually. It will be seen that at the present price of bonds the interest paid by the government itself is 12 per cent in gold on all money invested.

The United States Government on having the bonds aforesaid deposited with the Treasurer, on the strength of such security will furnish National currency to the bank depositing the bonds, at an annual interest of only one per cent per annum.

The currency is printed by the U.S. Government in a form so like Greenbacks that the people do not detect the difference. Although the currency is but a promise of the bank to pay.

The demand for money is so great that this money can be readily loaned to the people across the counter of the Bank at a discount at the rate of 10 per cent at thirty or sixty days time, making it about 12 per cent interest on the currency.

The interest on the bonds, plus the interest on the currency which the bond secures, plus the incidentals of the business, ought to make the gross earnings of the bank amount to from 28 per cent to 33 and one-third per cent.

National Banks are privileged to increase and contract their currency at will, and of course, can grant or withhold loans, as they may see fit. As the banks have a National organization and can easily act together in withholding loans or extending them, it follows that they can by united action in refusing to make loans cause a stringency in the money market, and in a single week or even a single day cause a decline in all products of the country.

National Banks pay no taxes on their bonds, nor on their capital, nor on their deposits.

Requesting that you will regard this as strictly confidential.
Most respectfully yours,
IKELHEIMIER, MORTON and VANDERGOULD
Following the exchange of the above letters the American Bankers put into practice once again the manipulations mentioned. They reaped another rich harvest by foreclosures on property and securities left with them as security for loans, which their clients could not repay because the Bankers, acting in unity, withdrew currency, and restricted credits, to a degree that made it impossible for the vast majority of borrowers to meet their financial obligations.

Abraham Lincoln felt that after this sad, and costly, experience the American people might be ready to listen to sense so, once again, he launched a public attack upon the bankers.

In an address he said : “I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me, and causes me to tremble for the safety of my Country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavour to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed.”

Shortly after making this momentous speech Abraham Lincoln was re-elected President but before he could have legislation enacted which would have curbed the avaricious practices of the bankers he was assassinated by John Wilkes Booth while attending a theatrical performance, on the night of April 14th, 1865. Very few Americans know why President Lincoln was assassinated. The true answer was found when investigators located a coded message amongst Booth’s effects. The key to that coded message was in possession of Judah P. Benjamin who was Rothschild’s agent in America. While the coded message had no direct bearing on the murder, it definitely established the contact Booth had with the International Bankers. Once again they remained hidden behind the scenes while the Jew, Booth, was blamed for the death of a great man. Had Abraham Lincoln lived he would most certainly have clipped the wings, and trimmed the sails, of the international moneylenders.

Before Lincoln was murdered, Salmon P. Chase, who was Secretary of the U.S. Treasury 1861-1864, stated publicly : “My agency in promoting the passage of the National Banking Act was the greatest financial mistake of my life. It has built up a monopoly which affects every interest in the country. It should be repealed, but before that can be accomplished the people will be arrayed on one side, and the banks on the other, in a contest such as we have never seen before in this country.”[8]

In 1866 there were $1,906,687,770 in currency in circulation in the United States. This represented $50.46 per capita. At the end of 1876 there was only about $605,250,000 in circulation representing a per capita amount of $14.60. The currency of the nation had been reduced by bank withdrawals to the extent of over $1,300,000,000. The importance of these figures will be better understood by the average man when he learns that the net result of the bankers policy was a total of 56,446 business failures representing a loss of $2,245,105,000 in cash investments. The larger proportion of the losses was incurred by mortgage foreclosures. In other words, by withdrawing currency and restricting credits the bankers had enriched themselves by well over $2,000,000,000 in a little over ten years.
There is plenty of evidence to prove that the American Bankers and the European Bankers, have been affiliated ever since, and that the subsequent depressions were created by similar financial manipulations, as will be explained in other chapters.
http://www.lovethetruth.com/books/pawns/05.htm

mick silver

13th December 2014, 07:14 AM

I am starting to see why people are saying were done and well done as a country , I feel for a few here

singular_me

13th December 2014, 10:31 AM

just like chaos can be either destructive or constructive... depends on the mind set determining as to whether the glass is half empty or full... same with utopia. I already mentioned that example of cavemen staring at their environment and imagining themselves, flying, crossing oceans, reaching out the stars... projections ALL came true. Thats the utopia I am talking about. :) But since today the knowledge is available the shift can be done in a reasonable amount of time... the problem is that time is running out.

then there is utopia towards oblivion, the path we are on... I choose the brand new thinking (not offered by the mainstream), which in fact is a really ancient solution hidden in plain sight.

we've to comprehend the nature of the NWO deadly dualism (divide and rule)... but to do so is going to cost the end of society as we know it. The only difference here is NWO engineered (coercion/fear) vs voluntary (free will/love)

This is truly a battle of Good vs Evil reaching its peak...

I'm of the opinion that belief and practice towards utopia is primary reason for it being obsolete.

singular_me

13th December 2014, 11:08 AM

good read... but it looks like it is kinda diluting the straight axioms described by Universal Laws. I definitely understand the allegory, though I think the use of rational knowledge (math/physics to bridge the the mind with the spiritual) is a better medium than allegories and mythologies, all of which have left us with unprecedented and insurmountable obstacles... just go to the sharia doll thread. The OP and comments alike are really describing brick wall we are faced with.

I can't speak for singular, but below is an allegorical story which I believe explains much of what she's talking about.

If anyone reads it and would like me to provide a concrete interpretation of what it means, which may answer all the questions above, I will do so.........

aeondaze

13th December 2014, 03:03 PM

Esoteric = Bullshit.

Natural law = evolution + four fundamental forces of nature.

You constantly assert mans hideous intellectually empty creations as some sort of fundamental universal principal or as natural law.

This can hardly be the case.

You've never proven once that these things are universally innate regardless of your tautological and rhetorical assertions of love/compassion/voluntarism/dualism/esoteric/occult.

In fact I assert that you know nothing of where the term 'occult' came from and what it historically meant. You assume that it had to do with evil.

For all your grandiose proclamations of depth of knowledge I find you light weight at best with not even a rudimentary understand of ANY subject. You just parrot other people's shite. You are in no part an original thinker, nor are any of your ideas revolutionary.

The only thing you are is grotesquely conceited and ill tempered should anyone dare to challenge your representations or assertions.

This is hardly the sign of someone who is open minded as you constantly wish to proclaim yourself.

The reality is you are a complete and total fraud.

PatColo

5th January 2015, 12:12 AM

Jim Stone; short version is dacommiejoooz did it; http://jimstonefreelance.com/

Dec 18 2014

Why the sexodus is really happening

Many readers have probably already heard other perspectives on this topic, here is mine.

Why are American men opting out of relationships with American women? The answer is both long and easy to state if one is willing to be honest and possibly take a ratings hit for the truth. This is it entirely (as I see it) and after I state the problem, I will state the reason and who did it.

A majority of American women grow up spoiled, with everything handed to them on a silver platter. In the schools, which are now rigged to destroy men, girls are given better grades for no reason at all other than to put them above the boys and make them more able to get into college. Boys have to work much harder and be far more talented to match the grades girls get in school, and often when any topic is technical or scientific a boy can be a genius and still get very poor grades on works such as science fair projects or anything else that requires a good technical understanding of a technical subject and actually making it work. There will be no appreciation for genius from any boy in American public schools nowadays. That went out with the 80's.

Once these girls, who were pumped all the way through grade school hit college, they get professors who teach them that they have been abused, victimized and subverted their entire lives (all the while they in fact had it easy, far easier than the boys.) Since the professors talk from a position of "authority," even the boys go along with it and a cycle of behavior gets entrenched that is very destructive and leads to a situation where no matter what is done, the girls can never be satisfied with anything. They are always "the victim" no matter how good they have it.

A majority of the women are then incapable of having a two way relationship. They enter a perfectly selfish mode where if their every whim is not answered without compromise, they are "abused" and "crushed" and whatever other things they dream up and can convince people of. If a man enters a relationship with such a woman (which is now the norm in the below 30 group and even a huge percentage of those in the 30-45 group) he risks having his life explode in divorce courts which are subsequently rigged to bring out the worst possible monsters the women can possibly muster, courts which can destroy a man for his entire useful life. And most do get destroyed.

This was a secret for a while, but word has gotten around and men are no longer stupid about this. For what reason should they open themselves up to being a 100 percent servant, who if he does not serve the woman to her perfect satisfaction faces complete destruction in court? I know a lot of women are spitting over this, but it is the cold hard truth, a truth most will never see.

Rather than see the truth, most women will fall into a depression caused by a malfunctioning system which targeted them directly, and used them to destroy their country. If there is no such thing as a stable home simply because the women demand far too much and destroy on a whim when they do not get what they want, America will fail and is already failing.

Then, as a final sucker punch, these women who were tricked into a destructive lifestyle that caused them enormous depression are deemed to have a chemical imbalance, prescribed antidepressants and from that point on they are unrecoverable. The antidepressants target the emotional centers and blow them away permanently, especially those which are needed for empathy, compassion, and caring about others. They become consuming machines that eat everything in their path (for a period of time) and then burn out completely and recede from society only to live alone with three cats, occasionally visited by other female friends who were similarly destroyed, to chat about how bad they have it and that is why life somehow passed them by. The real reason "life passed them by" is never known by any of them. Here it is:

When I first approached the Jewish community, I had full access to all the books in the Bnai Jacob Montreal synagogue and it was shocking what they had in that synagogue about the true nature of women. They study this, and use it to plot to destroy societies. One of the key things is that money is paramount for a majority of women, it is THE THING they go for and if societal laws or norms are not in place to discourage or prevent it, they will even sell their children to get it. This is not what I am saying, it is what they know and they use this nature of women to get them to shut off their conscience enough to have them feel perfectly justified in lying to destroy men in court, especially when there is a financial payout involved.

The Jews ran cold war Russia, and SSRI antidepressants, America's family policy, and many of the police state laws as well as the destructive educational programs were first test run in Russia. I doubt the same people who developed these things in Russia are still there after the fall, they are in America, in the courts, colleges, and social service sector brain raping the women and ripping the guts out of America.

If you want the real reason for the sexodus in America, as far as I see it, it is the end result of a communist plot to destroy America that has run its course almost to completion. And I doubt the nation will recover, if there is a way to recover this nation it will be had via direct threat to the Jewish districts of New York, San Francisco, and other major Jewish centers. They taught us that violence is wrong, but they use violence on a whim everywhere (and if you do not think there is even one example of this just look at Gaza.) Lack of an ability to get nasty is in fact a psychiatric malfunction that has been entrenched and enforced in America by those who are destroying the nation. Peaceful protest does not cut it, cry all you want and tyranny will only laugh in return. Have you seen anything other than them laughing at our protests lately? Protests are a joke when a complete revolution is needed.

Until this happens, enjoy living alone in a stupid "sexodus" which in reality, on the face of things absent any changes, is the only rational option for the American male. Until the social policy is responded to as the act of war it is and subsequently blown away, one would be stupid to go into the belly of the monster.

PatColo

5th January 2015, 12:25 AM

Also from JStone a couple weeks earlier:

Dec 5 2014

America's family court policy was drafted in cold war Russia

The following report is not a spoof or parody. This is information I have held onto for years because I did not think people would ever believe it. But after once again getting attacked while sending an E-mail with this topic (this time the CPU was the target, the screen turned into a bunch of static dots and the laptop made a burning smell) I figured I would post it if it angered "them" that much. Fortunately I turned the laptop off and removed the battery before permanent damage happened, and the CPU cooled off enough for a boot up after about 10 minutes.

The key information is documented here with hard proof, but what is not stated in the referenced proof is the fact that America's family court policy was drafted and tested specifically as a weapon that Russia never used on their own soil for any official policy. America's family court policy was tested in Russia during a time frame spanning from 1975-1985 and was specifically designed to be a social weapon that would rip America's guts out. Russia only "fell" after they got this weapon installed in America in a form which became known as the "Wisconsin Model". Evidently they figured that if they had that much control over American politics, there was no reason to continue the cold war

READ IT AND WEEP:

That's right. Prior to 1985 or so, family courts simply were not spectacularly horrific against men. They were bad, but not the abominations they are now. And few people know this, but ALL the family court policy was test run in Russia prior to being implemented in the U.S. - Russia subsequently discontinued the policies in the test regions, which were tweaked with precision to be considered the perfect balance between social acceptance and societal destruction - the perfect way to hit the maximum tolerance threshold for the most possible damage to society in the fastest way possible. The "Wisconsin model", which was subsequently adapted by most states, was developed in Russia as a social weapon to get women to destroy their societies.

The fact that these policies are still in place in America strongly implies that the people who controlled Russia (and may very well still be controlling Russia) are still in full power in America as well, with a goal of wiping out the U.S.

Sweden was duped into the "Wisconsin model" but discontinued it within three years because it caused such a wave of homeless men that they knew it had to be a weapon that on the surface appeared good, but wrought nothing but destruction on society. And Sweden is a highly socialistic state that would be easier to avoid becoming homeless in than America would be. Obviously Sweden discontinued the "Wisconsin model" policy because they are not too infiltrated to act in the best interests of their people.

So, do I think Russia is dead? Here is what I think - Russia is not the same Russia it used to be but it is not dead. I think that once the filthy rotten Bolshevik Jewish community was certain it had mind raped America enough to accept the "Wisconsin model" which did nothing but trash families via the gullibility and dishonesty of many of the women, who were supported by lawyers saying "it is the law, and therefore it is fair and good", that the Bolshevik "illuminati" Jewish community was finally fully certain America was their new mecca that they could slave rape for all eternity. Russia just did not work out well enough for them, and America's streets are flooded with homeless AS COLD HARD PROOF.

There are significant parallels between both American and Russian societies now. The most prominent of these parallels are the prison population, with America in the #1 spot followed by Russia. This is a key indicator which proves both countries are now the same with the police and in the courts. Regardless of what any details are, the outcome is the same - Both societies imprison people for long periods of time for offenses that do not pose any threat to society.

But now back to the main topic - America's family policy, which is easily proven to have been developed in cold war Russia. Just google EXACTLY: "Wisconsin model" "family policy" Russia

Click here for a large article that goes into a lot of detail (http://mensnewsdaily.com/archive/g/gay/02/gay052202.htm) and a relevant quote from that article follows:

It was during this period that Irwin Garfinkel, head of the Wisconsin Institute for Research on Poverty, imported a suite of Soviet Russian policy that has become known to us as "The Wisconsin Model". (The Child Support Guideline Problem (1998) The Wisconsin Model became a center-piece for the national child support and welfare reform movement. A slightly reformed version of the Wisconsin and Georgia child support guideline still survives as Article 81 of The Russian Family Code. The reforms certainly did suggest an end to welfare as we knew it, replacing it with a grand scheme for intense and arbitrary government management of the details of personal economics and family life; not just of families dependent on welfare. The reforms forced family law generally, affecting all families with divorced and never married parents and their children into federal jurisdiction. Accompanying this radical transition was a complete breakdown in the separation of power between branches of government as well; for the sake of conforming to laws and bureaucratic procedures designed to fit the political structure of a foreign country.

I did not just make that up! And ask yourself,HOW DID AMERICA GET FAMILY POLICY DRAFTED IN COLD WAR RUSSIA? Why did Russia "fall" so soon after it was put in place in America? ANSWER: BECAUSE THEY KNEW IF THEY HAD INFILTRATED AMERICA SO BADLY THAT THEIR POLICY COULD JUST BE PUT IN PLACE AND IMPLEMENTED WITHOUT ANY BACKLASH, THEY WON THE COLD WAR AND DID NOT NEED TO MAINTAIN THE RUSE.

The book referenced was written in 1998, however these policies go back to test runs in Russia as early as 1975, and were brought to America before the "collapse" of the Soviet Union. The fact that American family courts are "Russian" towards men is not just an illusion! And every lawyer and judge that enforces a Russian drafted social weapon in America when it is so obviously pure evil is guilty of treason against America. No one can tell me someone as high as a Judge does not know exactly what it is. And a huge number of judges are Jewish, Bolshevik Jews. No wonder why the family court outcomes are so often the same!

Now my hope is this: That Russia, absent such an overwhelming presence of Boshevik Jews (because they all sought greener pastures in America) has learned the lessons of history and Putin will block them out. Is Putin really Christian now? I hope so, because if he is, he will be very wise to Bolshevik methods and invasion, and Russia just might be a new hope. But these things are hard to know, true, the "Wisconsin model" may have been abandoned by Russia after being tested as a weapon, but it is really hard to tell what is going on there, and the prison population certainly does not indicate any real change in Russia.

EE_

5th January 2015, 01:29 AM

Also from JStone a couple weeks earlier:

Dec 5 2014

America's family court policy was drafted in cold war Russia The following report is not a spoof or parody. This is information I have held onto for years because I did not think people would ever believe it. But after once again getting attacked while sending an E-mail with this topic (this time the CPU was the target, the screen turned into a bunch of static dots and the laptop made a burning smell) I figured I would post it if it angered "them" that much. Fortunately I turned the laptop off and removed the battery before permanent damage happened, and the CPU cooled off enough for a boot up after about 10 minutes.

The key information is documented here with hard proof, but what is not stated in the referenced proof is the fact that America's family court policy was drafted and tested specifically as a weapon that Russia never used on their own soil for any official policy. America's family court policy was tested in Russia during a time frame spanning from 1975-1985 and was specifically designed to be a social weapon that would rip America's guts out. Russia only "fell" after they got this weapon installed in America in a form which became known as the "Wisconsin Model". Evidently they figured that if they had that much control over American politics, there was no reason to continue the cold war

READ IT AND WEEP: That's right. Prior to 1985 or so, family courts simply were not spectacularly horrific against men. They were bad, but not the abominations they are now. And few people know this, but ALL the family court policy was test run in Russia prior to being implemented in the U.S. - Russia subsequently discontinued the policies in the test regions, which were tweaked with precision to be considered the perfect balance between social acceptance and societal destruction - the perfect way to hit the maximum tolerance threshold for the most possible damage to society in the fastest way possible. The "Wisconsin model", which was subsequently adapted by most states, was developed in Russia as a social weapon to get women to destroy their societies.

The fact that these policies are still in place in America strongly implies that the people who controlled Russia (and may very well still be controlling Russia) are still in full power in America as well, with a goal of wiping out the U.S.

Sweden was duped into the "Wisconsin model" but discontinued it within three years because it caused such a wave of homeless men that they knew it had to be a weapon that on the surface appeared good, but wrought nothing but destruction on society. And Sweden is a highly socialistic state that would be easier to avoid becoming homeless in than America would be. Obviously Sweden discontinued the "Wisconsin model" policy because they are not too infiltrated to act in the best interests of their people.

So, do I think Russia is dead? Here is what I think - Russia is not the same Russia it used to be but it is not dead. I think that once the filthy rotten Bolshevik Jewish community was certain it had mind raped America enough to accept the "Wisconsin model" which did nothing but trash families via the gullibility and dishonesty of many of the women, who were supported by lawyers saying "it is the law, and therefore it is fair and good", that the Bolshevik "illuminati" Jewish community was finally fully certain America was their new mecca that they could slave rape for all eternity. Russia just did not work out well enough for them, and America's streets are flooded with homeless AS COLD HARD PROOF.

There are significant parallels between both American and Russian societies now. The most prominent of these parallels are the prison population, with America in the #1 spot followed by Russia. This is a key indicator which proves both countries are now the same with the police and in the courts. Regardless of what any details are, the outcome is the same - Both societies imprison people for long periods of time for offenses that do not pose any threat to society.

But now back to the main topic - America's family policy, which is easily proven to have been developed in cold war Russia. Just google EXACTLY: "Wisconsin model" "family policy" Russia
Click here for a large article that goes into a lot of detail (http://mensnewsdaily.com/archive/g/gay/02/gay052202.htm) and a relevant quote from that article follows: It was during this period that Irwin Garfinkel, head of the Wisconsin Institute for Research on Poverty, imported a suite of Soviet Russian policy that has become known to us as "The Wisconsin Model". (The Child Support Guideline Problem (1998) The Wisconsin Model became a center-piece for the national child support and welfare reform movement. A slightly reformed version of the Wisconsin and Georgia child support guideline still survives as Article 81 of The Russian Family Code. The reforms certainly did suggest an end to welfare as we knew it, replacing it with a grand scheme for intense and arbitrary government management of the details of personal economics and family life; not just of families dependent on welfare. The reforms forced family law generally, affecting all families with divorced and never married parents and their children into federal jurisdiction. Accompanying this radical transition was a complete breakdown in the separation of power between branches of government as well; for the sake of conforming to laws and bureaucratic procedures designed to fit the political structure of a foreign country.
I did not just make that up! And ask yourself,HOW DID AMERICA GET FAMILY POLICY DRAFTED IN COLD WAR RUSSIA? Why did Russia "fall" so soon after it was put in place in America? ANSWER: BECAUSE THEY KNEW IF THEY HAD INFILTRATED AMERICA SO BADLY THAT THEIR POLICY COULD JUST BE PUT IN PLACE AND IMPLEMENTED WITHOUT ANY BACKLASH, THEY WON THE COLD WAR AND DID NOT NEED TO MAINTAIN THE RUSE. The book referenced was written in 1998, however these policies go back to test runs in Russia as early as 1975, and were brought to America before the "collapse" of the Soviet Union. The fact that American family courts are "Russian" towards men is not just an illusion! And every lawyer and judge that enforces a Russian drafted social weapon in America when it is so obviously pure evil is guilty of treason against America. No one can tell me someone as high as a Judge does not know exactly what it is. And a huge number of judges are Jewish, Bolshevik Jews. No wonder why the family court outcomes are so often the same!

Now my hope is this: That Russia, absent such an overwhelming presence of Boshevik Jews (because they all sought greener pastures in America) has learned the lessons of history and Putin will block them out. Is Putin really Christian now? I hope so, because if he is, he will be very wise to Bolshevik methods and invasion, and Russia just might be a new hope. But these things are hard to know, true, the "Wisconsin model" may have been abandoned by Russia after being tested as a weapon, but it is really hard to tell what is going on there, and the prison population certainly does not indicate any real change in Russia.

also from JStone a couple weeks earlier:

If the American population really knew the truth, we'd be gutting these people like fish wherever they could be found.

American's will never stand against the Bolshevik Jews that have destroyed this country.
People are too well programmed to not speak out. You can see it here at gsus, where members have this knowledge and won't utter one word against these(their) people.

People that have one family member that is Jewish, married to a Jew, or have Jewish blood themselves, are programmed to keep silent.

I kind of equate this silence to someone in a family where all the other members killers, pedophiles, etc., and will not speak against the family no matter how evil. This is how it is in the Jewish community.

In the same way cops won't speak against other criminal cops, or Catholic priests/the pope won't speak out on so many pedaphiles in the church...what does that make those that keep silent? Complicit?

Tumbleweed

5th January 2015, 02:36 AM

Here's a song that seems to be confirmation of what Jim Stone says about marriage and men and women ending up alone and disillusioned because of the works of the Jews.

"My Poor Old Heart"

Don't expect too much from my poor old heart,
You can blame me unforgiven for my scars,
you might just be the best that I can find,
but I can't seem to forget the tears I've cried,
I don't know that I will ever trust again,
it's a price I must pay for all my sins,
Time has changed me and left me full of doubt,
and my heart may be lost never to be found,

Once upon a time I did believe,
in my true love that swept me off my feet,
then the wind of change swept him away,
and left me drowning in my own pain
I don't know that I will ever love again,
it's a price that I must pay for all my sins,
time has changed me and left me full of doubt,
and my heart may be lost never to be found,
I don't know that I will ever love again,
it's the price that I must pay for all my sins,

time has changed me and left me full of doubt,
I don't know that I will ever trust again,
it's the price I must pay for all my sins,
time has changed me and left me full of doubt,
and my heart may be lost never to be found.

I don't know that I will ever trust again,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNngj9VJom8

PatColo

5th January 2015, 08:30 AM

Just catching up at Makow's site, this about "sexodus," check link for reader comments:

Men, Don't Give Up on Women! (http://henrymakow.com/2014/12/skip-the-sexodus.html)

December 13, 2014

In the video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwPFnvniA7w&feature=youtu.be), left, Paul Watson adroitly summarizes the conclusions of

Sexodus!-- "Men are Giving Up on Women and Checking Out of Society"
(http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/12/04/The-Sexodus-Part-1-The-Men-Giving-Up-On-Women-And-Checking-Out-Of-Society)
and "Feminism Leaves Male Sexuality in Crisis." (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/12/09/The-Sexodus-Part-2-Dishonest-Feminist-Panics-Leave-Male-Sexuality-In-Crisis)

These articles have caused a minor sensation but young men

are advised to ignore the noise and get on with being real men,

which includes leading wife and family.

"Giving up on women is an understandable reaction but it's not what real men do."

by Henry Makow Ph. D.

According to "Sexodus," young women today are too arrogant, confused, crazy and slutty to consider as wives and mothers. Because of family law, marriage can be lethal. As result, men are withdrawing to a private world of sports, video games and porn. Many of the comments confirm this assertion.

Paul Watson correctly attributes this trend to social engineering. Indeed, when it comes to monogamy, the mass media is a toxic bath.

But it's important to realize that "giving up on women" is precisely what the social engineers want men to do. Their goal is to re-engineer society and this involves destroying our family identity.

Giving up on women is an understandable reaction but it's not what real men do.

Preconceptions like those enforced by "Sexodus" prevent men from finding a suitable mate.

People are governed by chimeras. Most of these mental constructs are untrue or incomplete.

They're evil spells like feminism. So my advice is to stow self-defeating paradigms and adopt a positive vision.

Masculinity is defined by power. Exercise your power. The backbone of a man is his work. Focus all your energies on pursuing a career which provides you with satisfaction, reward and recognition. The rest will follow naturally.

WOMEN ARE CONFUSED

But you shouldn't be. Women are passive by nature. They're designed to follow male leadership, i.e. their husband.

The Internet gives you an opportunity to sift through thousands of eligible women from all over the world.

They key is to find a woman who wants to follow you.

I found my wife on the Internet in Mexico 14 years ago. Without asking, she sent me a website for my first book. When I saw it, I realized that this woman was willing to help me. It has turned out to be true. She designed this website and keeps it running. She is the Swiss Army Knife of wives. Moreover, she is attractive, loving, honest, intelligent and has a great sense of humor.

Love has to be earned. People think they'll be loved just for whom they are. That's really sexual attraction. It doesn't last.

Lasting love involves mutual dependence. We love the people who help us. We're loved for what we do for someone else. Nurturing is real love.

Like most women, my wife was infected by feminism. We had occasional conflicts.

I said, "you can have love or you can have power but you can't have both." If you want power, go your own way. She has always chosen love. Real women do.

So be subtle. And discreetly educate a woman to be your life-partner. Don't be controlling. Respect differences. My wife doesn't agree with my politics, doesn't believe in Conspiracy, doesn't read my website. I'm happy to be with someone who isn't burdened with this knowledge.

Consult her. Please her because you love her. I bring my wife breakfast in bed every day as a gesture of appreciation.

The critique of women found in "Sexodus" is a self fulfilling prophesy. They want men to give up on women.

Feminism is just brainwashing. You can change her mind. Instinctively women want to belong to a man. She wants marriage and children. You only need to find one who is still in touch with her feminitity.

Take your time and make sure she's not a crypto feminist. Make sure she's really willing to exchange her power for your power, expressed as love.

And make sure you are worthy of her sacrifice and trust.

--
Related-"Cruel Hoax: Feminism and the New World Order" (http://www.amazon.com/Cruel-Hoax-Feminism-World-Order/dp/096877251X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1355347430&sr=8-1&keywords=Cruel+Hoax)

Makow - Men Seek helpmates Not Soul Mates (http://henrymakow.com/2014/04/men-seek-helpmates-not-soulmates.html)

------------Possessiveness is Part of Love (http://www.henrymakow.com/theres_a_place_for_possession.html)

-----------Reclaiming Male power in the Viagra Age (http://www.henrymakow.com/251001.html)

---------- Men! Design Your Perfect 10 (http://www.henrymakow.com/design-the-perfect-woman.html)

---------- Men Must Champion Feminine Women (http://www.henrymakow.com/051201.html)
---------- The Dying Art of Femininity (http://www.henrymakow.com/001189.html)

- See more at: http://henrymakow.com/2014/12/skip-the-sexodus.html

Horn

6th January 2015, 05:53 PM

oops wrong thread,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrIPhFWSudA

PatColo

25th March 2015, 07:14 PM

I'm only 15 mins into this but so far VG :)
http://www.thevinnyeastwoodshow.com/2015-archives/why-monogamy-doesnt-work-for-everyone-the-history-of-love-in-human-society-liam-scheff

Why Monogamy Doesn't Work For Everyone, The History Of Love In Human Society, Liam Scheff (http://www.thevinnyeastwoodshow.com/2015-archives/why-monogamy-doesnt-work-for-everyone-the-history-of-love-in-human-society-liam-scheff)3/6/15

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An incredible break down of how love, marriage and monogamy has evolved over time.

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Shami-Amourae

25th March 2015, 10:30 PM

This guy is extremely Jewish and misanthropic. He's obsessed with depopulation. Read some of the comments in one of his recent videos:

http://s21.postimg.org/avcalv86v/3_25_2015_11_28_08_PM.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTL83xE8KiI

People like this who are vegetarians are mentally unstable. I would only recommend listening to this to get an idea of why Jews do what they do.

Jewboo

25th March 2015, 10:33 PM

http://i.imgur.com/0S8bbYW.jpg

Hitch

25th March 2015, 10:51 PM

http://i.imgur.com/0S8bbYW.jpg

Bump for truth.

Glass

26th March 2015, 12:58 AM

If anyone is full of it its that guy.

My questions to Liam would be:

Why replace one of the most efficient energy creation and storage systems out there - the cow. It's basically a self charging battery?
How many of those companies you mentioned are owned by your ethnic brothers and sisters?
Why do these people, who are your brothers and sisters take natures bounty and pollute and pervert it so it no longer healthy to consume?
How many of those companies have exceeded their water consumption rights? Taken millions or even billions of gallons more water than they were entitled?
What penalty do your brothers and sisters face for doing these things and ultimately depleting the resources of california and other US states?

I'm sure I can think up more.

I was staggered to learn that here in my city companies had taken something like 98 million litres more in one year than they were allowed and nothing happened. I don't think they even had to pay for the extra they stole. No sanctions either. We now have a water shortage and they are pumping sewage into the aquifers to top them up.

PatColo

26th March 2015, 01:36 AM

singular_me

26th March 2015, 01:55 AM

Hey, the joo & depop agendas hadn't even occurred to me re this interview. I must be going soft!

his numbers about how many gallons of water per pound of meat and for alfalfa are correct though. the problem/agenda lies in the solutions as usual.

as for his podcast on sexuality, I did agree on a few things, but the bottom line I think is that way too many people get too quickly in a committed relationship. A true sacred union takes time to develop. While exceptions always exist, one should wait at least 2 or 3 years before sharing a roof until passion/sex craze has cooled off ... because that is when cracks start to appear, that reality sets in. I also think that Nature works her way through to balance population rate and that at least 25% of people are not suited for monogamy nor have kids.

My son who is 32, told me last september when visiting that if he says a woman that doesnt want to go bed within 2 or 3 days that she will automatically think that he has issues. But my son has fooled around a lot, and now regrets to have been commitment phobic for many years and missed at least 2 women who really were worth it... thats a catch 22 male-female pattern it seems today

Neuro

26th March 2015, 02:44 AM

his numbers about how many gallons of water per pound of meat and for alfalfa are correct though. the problem/agenda lies in the solutions as usual.

It depends, factory farmed beef yes. Free grazing cattle, doesn't require any pumped water, which alfalfa would require especially if you wanted to grow it on lands used for grazing now generally. A lot of the land used for grazing isn't good for agriculture to begin with. But that's armchair theorists!

Hitch

26th March 2015, 10:06 AM

My son who is 32, told me last september when visiting that if he says a woman that doesnt want to go bed within 2 or 3 days that she will automatically think that he has issues.

Likely, those women are insecure, but this is a common thing today I believe. Make the women wait, it's a good way to filter out the bad ones. Nothing shocks me anymore, personally. The last gal I dated asked me how many women I've gone to bed with. I dodged that answer at first, but made the mistake of asking her that same question. She answered "many, both men and women." Well, things didn't work out with her.

singular_me

26th March 2015, 02:06 PM

Feminism is pushing women to play the so-called self-empowered mega sluts and promiscuity destroys self-confidence, thats the agenda. My son when in high school fell for the quick fix so to speak but then got himself caught by the pattern and was afraid of commitment as a result. Now he is able to look at it from another angle and tries to correct it.

Not that I want to be judgmental regarding your life, but her answer seemed like a blessing, saved you lots of time I mean.

Likely, those women are insecure, but this is a common thing today I believe. Make the women wait, it's a good way to filter out the bad ones. Nothing shocks me anymore, personally. The last gal I dated asked me how many women I've gone to bed with. I dodged that answer at first, but made the mistake of asking her that same question. She answered "many, both men and women." Well, things didn't work out with her.

Hitch

26th March 2015, 02:33 PM

Not that I want to be judgmental regarding your life, but her answer seemed like a blessing, saved you lots of time I mean.

We weren't compatible for other reasons as well, we had different spiritual beliefs. I'm not judging her as I think she is a good person. It has to be tough for women to find identity in these times, with feminism and media pushing one agenda, religion another, and their innate true nature possible something else.

It's easy being men, everything gets blamed on us anyway, especially white men. But along with that allows more responsibility and more freedoms I think.

Jewboo

26th March 2015, 02:46 PM

http://tarhearted.typepad.com/.a/6a00e54ee0f61288340133f264240c970b-pi

We weren't compatible for other reasons as well...

Don't give up on women Hitch. You'll meet a nice "gal" soon...

:)

Hitch

26th March 2015, 02:51 PM

Don't give up on women Hitch. You'll meet a nice "gal" soon...

I already did, she's awesome and we have tons in common. BTW, can you cool it on posting gay pictures? Nobody here wants to see that. You can find other forums where you might fit in better.

singular_me

26th March 2015, 02:57 PM

sweet-sour book's recipe.. often sour only. He can't help himself

BTW, can you cool it on posting gay pictures? Nobody here wants to see that. You can find other forums where you might fit in better.

Horn

26th March 2015, 03:20 PM

I already did, she's awesome and we have tons in common.

California cultured?

singular_me

26th March 2015, 03:36 PM

.. just spent 9 months on my own to sort out my current choice and all their challenges, it is a 7yo relationship and the clock has to be readjusted once in a while. Yes it is tough for women in general, I witness this every day around me. But not really for me to be honest, seeing the big picture surely helps.

the most blatant fear in feminist women is to not do enough to keep a man (especially at bed time) but they will never question their own actions and will rather lash out at men. There is absolutely nothing that empowers in feminism.

congrats, I wish you the best with your lady, Hitch.

We weren't compatible for other reasons as well, we had different spiritual beliefs. I'm not judging her as I think she is a good person. It has to be tough for women to find identity in these times, with feminism and media pushing one agenda, religion another, and their innate true nature possible something else.

It's easy being men, everything gets blamed on us anyway, especially white men. But along with that allows more responsibility and more freedoms I think.

SWRichmond

26th March 2015, 04:49 PM

There is absolutely nothing that empowers in feminism.

I believe that feminism has gone to great lengths to encourage women to "want what men have", which is a kind of learned dissatisfaction in things that can never be, and I am convinced it results in women hating life in general and themselves in particular, a hatred which manifests itself as hatred of men, who "have what women want but cannot have".

Cebu_4_2

26th March 2015, 04:56 PM

the most blatant in feminist women is the fear to not do enough to keep a man (especially at bed time) but they will never question their own actions and will rather lash out at men. There is absolutely nothing that empowers in feminism.

20 years of this BS leads a man astray to find a real one. Glad I eventually moved along.

I do remember that if you dont tag a 'bitch' the first or 2nd date you were dumped. I turned the game around and if they wouldn't on the first date they were canned. Thinking back there were quite a few I could have settled with if I was ready but the bitches in between stopped me from settling down. Ugly inside, users, self centered and gold diggers.... They can ruin it for a lot of potential winners. Time was the eventual answer for me.

Horn

26th March 2015, 05:46 PM

Are there only two types of women everywhere? I dont think so. But the amount of emotional involvement required by women in the U.S. for a relationship to work far exceeds my investment capacity. :)

Hitch

26th March 2015, 05:54 PM

Are there only two types of women everywhere? I dont think so. But the amount of emotional involvement required by women in the U.S. for a relationship to work far exceeds my investment capacity. :)

You said that really well, Horn.

singular_me

26th March 2015, 06:38 PM

I could have gotten away with 100K when I got divorced but took 5 only, enough to pay my 1 month rent the deposit. After that I was on my own... not born a gold digger.

You seem to have been through a lot, but hey now you have a wonderful baby/toddler... this generation is really screwed up big time. Worse than ours.

20 years of this BS leads a man astray to find a real one. Glad I eventually moved along.

I do remember that if you dont tag a 'bitch' the first or 2nd date you were dumped. I turned the game around and if they wouldn't on the first date they were canned. Thinking back there were quite a few I could have settled with if I was ready but the bitches in between stopped me from settling down. Ugly inside, users, self centered and gold diggers.... They can ruin it for a lot of potential winners. Time was the eventual answer for me.

Cebu_4_2

26th March 2015, 06:58 PM

I could have gotten away with 100K when I got divorced but took 5 only, enough to pay my 1 month rent the deposit. After that I was on my own... not born a gold digger.

You seem to have been through a lot, but hey now you have a wonderful baby/toddler... this generation is really screwed up big time. Worse than ours.

My son who is adult now knows the score, we haven't had televits in about 15 years and when we did he ignored it... Bright kid.

New one has no televitz "entertainment" just me and my family. I am sure this will have social drawbacks but worth it to avoid the brain washing not counting the vaccines we forgot.

Well be good where we are at, Bible belt where preachers hold more clout than lawyers/attorneys.

PatColo

13th July 2015, 09:27 AM

Red Ice Radio interview. 1st free hour only. Description & download link inside:

Roger Devlin - Hour 1 - Sexual Utopia in Power (http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2015/07/RIR-150710.php)

July 10, 2015

PatColo

11th August 2015, 09:36 PM

@ Makow's, with several more comments at link:

Increasingly, Men See Women as "The Enemy" (http://henrymakow.com/2015/07/Men-See-Women-as.html)

July 1, 2015
http://henrymakow.com/upload_images/25175-Stop-Youre-A-Whore.jpg"My physical desires command me to mate with women,
yet the women in this environment are clearly toxic (feminism, media, etc.)"

Illuminati Feminism is having its desired effect:
Dividing the sexes by destroying the marriage ethos in women and provoking a backlash from men. Women are not the enemy.
Illuminati Jews & Freemasons have subverted them and Western society.

Makow comment- I am a defender of heterosexual marriage and family. Before the Masonic Jewish (Illuminati) subversion of society, a woman's job was to be a wife and mother. Women used to love men and want to reproduce. Thus she made herself attractive to a man. Feminism convinced them to eschew this role and seek power instead of love. They have been deceived into engaging in sex without commitment. Now we are witnessing a backlash where many men are fed up with these women, who have forsaken the love and protection of family. They have been tricked into forsaking their biological role and are at risk of becoming biologically redundant. However, there is still a pool of women (http://www.henrymakow.com/051201.html)who seek male leadership to choose from.

from June 8, 2014

Mike's Complaint, Women Want Kids Not Husbands, (http://henrymakow.com/2014/06/Mike-Finds-Porn-Preferable.html) received a robust response from men:

Bill says, "Women are More trouble than they're Worth"

I agree with Mike in the UK. Porn does for me what real women never have. I was married to a hot Filipina for 11 years too; so I know what a good sex life is like. And I was a born-again Christian for 22 years too; so I know where all the anti-porn folks are coming from. In fact, the only reason I sought out a wife was in obedience to 1 Corinthians 7:9 "But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion." That was the worst decision of my life! The best decisions of my life were 1) getting a vasectomy and 2) divorcing my stress/drama/debt-generator wife. As good as the sex was, it was not worth the price I paid.

http://henrymakow.com/upload_images/men-going-their-own-way-meme2.jpgI have discovered that MGTOW (men going their own way) (http://www.mgtow.com/)is the path to peace and happiness. I live in Florida in a nice aircon condo. I take a 30-45 minute walk every day in the natural beauty that is my neighbourhood. I read a lot of articles online each day and interact with Facebook friends. I run my online machinery business. I take 1 or 2 vacations to Thailand or the Philippines each year. That is the only time I have sex. But it's all good. Because porn is always there for me when I get horny. It never says NO. It never shames me. It never threatens me. It demands nothing in return. It's free! It offers a different experience each and every time - at MY convenience. When I am done, it is done. I am in total control. What is not to like?

The detractors will say, "it's like looking at a magazine ad vs. eating a real steak." Not so! Having real sex with real women can be great, but is often boring. The effort men put into obtaining that sex is often ridiculously high. They also put themselves at risk. There are many "honey traps" out there. Men using Craig's list or dating sites are often robbed or even murdered. There are also life threatening STDs to avoid. The detractors will say, "you are looking for women in all the wrong places" OR "you just can't find quality women." Exactly - I can't. So I have the wisdom to admit it and enjoy a spot of porn on occasional. Same way I enjoy a spot of whiskey on occasion. It's not an addiction. It's a gift from God and meets my need. I partake with a grateful spirit.

The detractors point out that porn is produced and promoted by the Illuminati to further their Satanic agenda of depopulation, to spiritually weaken its consumers and for the money. Agreed. However, I'll bet these same people who are pursuing holiness are attending churches who have been infiltrated by feminism, political correctness and Zionism. I feel closer to God now than I did when I was attending church regularly, tithing, serving, witnessing, praying and reading my Bible every day. I no longer do any of those things. With the way men are targeted and abused in divorce court these days, I would revise 1 Corinthians 7:9 to read "But if they cannot control themselves, they should watch porn and masturbate, for it is better to jack off than to burn with passion."

On the subject of women wanting kids, not husbands, I agree. The New Unmarried Moms (http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887323826704578356494206134184), and The Tipping Point When Marriage and Children Is No Longer a Package Deal (http://twentysomethingmarriage.org/the-tipping-point-when-marriage-and-children-is-no-longer-a-package-deal/)

However, this article is more to the point of our discussion. Woman's Marriage/Man's Marriage: Two Different Worlds (http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/schlepping-through-heartbreak/201406/woman-s-marriageman-s-marriage-two-different-worlds): "Women go into marriage for the marriage. Men go into marriage for the woman. For the woman, it's a combo, a package deal. You get the house, the stuff, the kids and the guy. I can't tell you how many men in my office complain that they feel they are last on the list, after the kids, her job, her mother, her sister, her friends and Zumba. She can get her needs met in a variety of ways and can have close, intimate relationships with any one of those people on that list, not only with him."

For most men, marriage is a bad deal. Better to buy a dog. The dog doesn't mind at all when you look at porn!

-----
Mark says "learn Game.":

I've said it before and I'm saying it again: Men nowadays need Game, which is in the words of blogger Rollo Tomassi: "A set of behavioral modifications to life skills based on psychological & sociological principles to facilitate intersexual relations. "

Mike - from what you told, your problems might be: 1. You are targeting the wrong kind of women and are unable to recognize their given psychology correctly. Some are lost causes, but there are still enough girls out there who will gladly submit and be in a relationship with a masculine man. A man can learn to unravel the "feminine mystique" via knowledge of Game. 2. It is likely that you are attractive or good-looking, also have sexual prowess, but women don't feel a strong bond with you - all men with excellent Game have met plenty of women, who would love to be wifed up by them (so called Deep-Conversion Game).

In the old times it was enough to be a good provider to get a woman. Nowadays it takes that, plus being Game-aware and having manifested more Alpha characteristics.

More on this by more traditional marriage encouraging manosphere sites - all written by happily married guys who learnt Game: http://therationalmale.com/
http://dalrock.wordpress.com/
http://marriedmansexlife.com/

I wish you would give Game more credit. Game is not evil. Pumping and dumping may be not so beneficial, but knowledge itself of female inborn psychology is not bad. I have now met plenty of women, who actually recognized their own destructive motivations when I pointed them out. Some even accepted them and are trying to readjust their lives. We men are actually simpler, more straightforward creatures, but women behave according to a different set of rules. The worst is that women are barely aware of it - and so are most men.

But I think that the Illuminati high-level psychologists likely knew that a long time ago and knew what would happen when women would be given those "freedoms" and be "empowered".

----
Will is on the verge of giving up:

It really seems that as a man living in western culture, like Mike I cannot help but feel like I am being backed into a corner. My physical desires command me to mate with women, yet the women in this environment are clearly toxic (feminism, media, etc.) Porn use has clearly been shown to cause neurological problems (reversible through quitting and physical exercise), and everywhere women dress in an extremely sexually provocative way constantly teasing you with their sexuality.

Unlike Mike, I have not had any women want me as a DNA provider, but I know that as soon as I finish my education (PhD in Neuroscience) and hit a stride in my career, women will just see me as a stable walking and talking ATM, whom they will gladly divorce and take resources from.

Importing women from more stable environments (i.e. overseas or religious women) into this one is an option, but women often are poisoned with feminism on entry and the same problem of them leaving and stripping you of resources occurs.

Not to mention that this toxic feminist virus is spreading around the world at a rapid rate. However, there is slim albeit risky chance for Mike to get the life he desires. Having been selected as a DNA provider in his 20's (I am assuming) it is clear that women are attracted to him on a more primal/basic level.

He could theoretically quit porn, channel his sexual energy into his career and gain social status. This way women should more easily flock to him and he can more easily have his pick. If he carefully is able to select a young woman from a stable family/religious background, his primal attractiveness combined with his newly increased social status hopefully should be enough to convince the woman to marry him and not to stray from the marriage.

As for myself, my 20's are almost over (turn 27 this month). I have been on many first dates (no sex) and not had a single second date. I am extremely physically fit (train at the gym 4 days a week). I have no problem talking to women or making them laugh but it is clear that I get put in the friend-zone and am not DNA provider material.

Taking into account my experiences with these women and the experiences of other provider type men/friends who are now going through painful and humiliating divorces/child support battles, it has become crystal clear to me that women on a primal/physical level are not attracted to me and only see me as a potential provider that they can easily discard once resources are attained thanks to no-fault divorce.

Personally, I have too much dignity to let that happen and I pray to God that He will help control my sexual desires so I can maintain what dignity I have left.

Art says, C'mon Men, have Some Fun:

So he's bored with women, okay, but here's a story from a man who's never bored with them. I'm entertained by them, although more than 13 years happily celibate. Without the pressure to fondle and penetrate body parts a whole new world opens to you. The fondling can happen later when you finally locate one worth the effort.

As a relatively new resident in a new city, and an avid ice skater, I come in contact with a plethora of very attractive women. I know so many now I struggle to remember all their names.

I have developed what I am calling a "feminist" test. It takes a bit of practice to employ properly because one must believably take on the role, jokingly, of a sexist, if only for a few moments. Timing is crucial of course. At some point in the conversation, work in something like this. "I think you'd look great behind an ironing board, or pushing a broom or mop". It's so over the top in modern society it's hard to keep a straight face. You WILL turn heads of women around you so be prepared.

One of two things will happen, the target woman will explode in visible anger and be beside herself (feminist), or she will have a suspicious look followed by a smiling relief knowing you can't possibly feel that way (real woman who may share some feminist ideals but isn't sure why). So much fun I tell you. Now who's in the driver seat?

Remaining friendly but never give any hint that this is all happening in order to score. She will be left wondering what is wrong with you. A man that "isn't trying to get in her pants"? Perplexing. Astounding. Attractive! Yes, you are now a one in a million, and I assure you they'll be back for more,

I'm holding out for just one woman that I can't remain celibate around. So far she hasn't appeared before my eyes. When she does though, I will be sure to return here and report.

C'mon men, turn this game around. BE the dominant force you were designed to be. No one has ever died from a lack of sex. Man up gentlemen, get out there and have some fun again.

NOTE: If anyone is interested in temporarily swearing off sexual activity, the way a sweat lodge cleanses the mind and body, one thing must be done to be successful. Stop consuming pornography. It's a terrible addiction. It desensitizes men to female bodies to a point where a physical response to the very sight of one no longer cause erectile results.

Just as an alcoholic can swill a dozen beers without much of an affect, so goes porn addiction. If you were an alcoholic, would renting a room in a liquor store be a good idea? Just stop it, and stop it now. Intense demand drives the overwhelming supply, you have the ability to stop it cold. It's part of being a man, a free man.

----------------------

First Comment from Christopher:

I wasn't planning on commenting on anything, but after reading yesterday's article and some comments from the past two days I just can't keep it to myself anymore. These guys talking about they watch porn and jack off rather than deal with a woman? They are mad. Mike saying he can't find a woman who doesn't put out fast? Either slow down or stop complaining. Will and other guys scared that the ladies just want their money? Grow some fucking balls!

The main problem with most of these stories is that these "men" are not in control. Not in control of themselves, not in control of their women, and not in control of their dicks. No wonder these evil feminist bitches want to rape, rob, and beat them. They are sitting ducks, and this so-called "female empowerment" is turning women into predators. It is not news to me that some girls just want men for there money. There are girls who, when looking for a relationship, don't look for a man that they actually want to be with, but for a fool who they can use. Easy solution: don't get involved with them and if you do, don't give them anything! Yes, when you first meet a girl, it can be nice to buy her flowers or take her out to an expensive restaurant, but when they ask you to pay to get their hair done or buy them $400 shoes there should be no room for negotiation. If you give in, things will only get worse.

We have all heard a million stories of men whose wives leave them and take everything, and I sympathize with them. In this system it could happen to almost anybody. The only solution is to find a wife who is actually a decent person, which is rare these days. But no matter what you do, porn is no substitute for a woman. Picking up sluts or prostitutes, while not a great idea, makes more sense as you will at least get what you want. If you are single and struggling to find a decent girl, you would be better off not watching porn at all as it will only frustrate you more and fill your mind with perverted images. Or for you people that like to quote the bible, didn't Jesus say if your arm causes you to sin it is better to chop it off that have your whole body thrown into hell?

I can't lie, I like beautiful naked women. But I have no interest in watching people have sex. I am 30 years old and in my short time on earth I have (fortunately) never seen an erect penis. At least not in real life, but yes I have seen it in porn. Henry, you're right when you say porn is gay.

w/comments: http://henrymakow.com/2015/07/Men-See-Women-as.html

Hitch

12th August 2015, 08:52 AM

PatColo,

Those are some good comments, but I don't think it's healthy to blame the culture, the system, or women for the problems with relationships these days.

Men are often our own worst enemies. We place our value on whether we have a woman at our side, and especially how beautiful she might be. If a man is dating a model for example, it's assumed he has high value, by both men and women. Heck, this is even evident on this forum (by folks seeking the truth). I've gripped about women in the past on this very forum, only to be called a 40 year old virgin.

Now, to me the answer is so simple. Stop placing blame. Only we can make ourselves happy. Women can't. What I do is take sex out of the question. What I mean is, I'm happy not dating any women. I'm happy dating multiple women. But, I will only have sex with a woman I want to commit to. If I'm dating 3 women, for example, I won't have sex with any of them, but if I do, I will commit to that one and drop the others. I won't even tell her either, it's in my heart and before God that I choose that commitment. Marriage is not about religion anymore, I truly believe God understands this.

Horn

12th August 2015, 09:05 AM

Ego is the main reason for the strife, always have been. Illuminati know this, and entice it at any chance. Inflaming/inflating male ego while placating/tempering the female.

Man's Western religion is most successful at attaching sexuality to their very own ego driven souls. Confusion and self induced rebellion follow.

PatColo

9th January 2016, 11:43 PM

I'm 50 mins into this, very interesting roundtable with men, women, callers:

Renegade Roundtable: Sinead Hosts (1-9-16) (http://www.renegadebroadcasting.com/renegade-roundtable-sinead-hosts-1-9-16/)

http://www.renegadebroadcasting.com/media/merkel-invaders-150x150.jpg

Sinead starts off the show with Angelo Gage and the Fockn, discussing the recent MGTOW debate, and then takes our calls. 747-222-8804

...full post & comments. (http://www.renegadebroadcasting.com/renegade-roundtable-sinead-hosts-1-9-16/)

Gage's latest video discussed at the opening:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/wdHOwJX-8pU/mqdefault.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdHOwJX-8pU)
16:16
Strategic Triggering : MGTOW and Zionist Jews (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdHOwJX-8pU)

1,437 views
7 hours ago

Shami-Amourae

10th January 2016, 12:23 AM

I was about to post this too...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdHOwJX-8pU

PatColo

10th January 2016, 12:48 AM

I'll add this one; Gage uploaded the day before:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/z3yqnDxBuJI/mqdefault.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3yqnDxBuJI)
14:48
Anti-white MGTOW Exposed (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3yqnDxBuJI)

2,114 views
1 day ago

Gage's channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsqf9vZfB5vOeJBnR3J6w1Q/videos

Hillbilly

10th January 2016, 03:24 AM

I was about to post this too...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdHOwJX-8pU

Why iz this guy trying so hard to make us believe he is a Marine? Ive noticed many a youtube conspiracy person trying to insinuate in one way or the other thay are military?

vacuum

24th January 2016, 07:23 PM

Fuck this.

Since March 2015 in the UK police have had the ability to prevent innocent men from having sex without finding out information (address, date of birth) about the woman and sending it to the police 24 hours in advance. One man was accused of rape and found innocent, but police have ordered him to inform them of sex he has 24 hours before he has it. If he does not manage this he will receive 5 years in prison.

It also contains restrictions on his use of the internet and mobile phone devices and requires him to inform officers of any change of address.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-35385227

Jewboo

24th January 2016, 07:28 PM

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/wdHOwJX-8pU/mqdefault.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdHOwJX-8pU)
16:16
Strategic Triggering : MGTOW and Zionist Jews (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdHOwJX-8pU)

1,437 views
7 hours ago

Video already yanked by Youtube.

Hitch

24th January 2016, 07:32 PM

Fuck this.

It also contains restrictions on his use of the internet and mobile phone devices and requires him to inform officers of any change of address.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-35385227

Become Muslim. Be a refugee. Then you can do whatever you want to women.

Other than that, be celibate and just don't look at women. Pretend it's you wearing the burka. Keep your head down and fly under the radar. That's pretty much all men can do these days.

Any thoughts on why women wonder where all the good men went?

PatColo

29th February 2016, 11:27 PM

UK's Digger for Truth (http://renegadetribune.com/author/digger/) (<< all his articles), always good,

http://renegadetribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/shutterstock_246210310-e1441980153857-800x445.jpg (http://renegadetribune.com/damaged-men-women/)

Damaged Men and Women (http://renegadetribune.com/damaged-men-women/) (http://renegadetribune.com/damaged-men-women/)February 29, 2016 (http://renegadetribune.com/damaged-men-women/) Digger for Truth (http://renegadetribune.com/author/digger/) 4 Comments

(http://renegadetribune.com/damaged-men-women/#comments)

This awkward subject of mgtow [men going their own way] has bubbled up to the surface again. Some of us have tried to avoid this topic, as it’s a bit too touchy and we feel we need to ‘just get on with other more pressing stuff’.

But it ain’t going away, so we’d better try to address it. After all we’re in the Truth business.

Before we start; we have to acknowledge that all of us are going to view this controversial subject from our bias positions. All of us have our personal experiences with this topic and this will affect our impartiality.

It is essential we don’t allow unnecessary divisions to occur within the cause, from this topic or any topic. Look how cohesive our adversaries are. All of us in the movement are hotheads; if we weren’t of that nature, we wouldn’t be in the fight and nothing would get done. But we also need to pull together as much as we can, just agreeing to disagree on various ‘hot’ subjects.

more: http://renegadetribune.com/damaged-men-women/

PatColo

29th March 2016, 04:08 AM

see link for reader comments:

(http://renegadetribune.com/its-the-jews-stupid/)http://renegadetribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/small-rootless-800x445.jpg (http://renegadetribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/small-rootless.jpg)
(http://renegadetribune.com/its-the-jews-stupid/)
(http://renegadetribune.com/its-the-jews-stupid/) (http://renegadetribune.com/its-the-jews-stupid/) It’s The Jews, Stupid! (http://renegadetribune.com/its-the-jews-stupid/) (http://renegadetribune.com/its-the-jews-stupid/) March 26, 2016 (http://renegadetribune.com/its-the-jews-stupid/) Shield Maiden (http://renegadetribune.com/author/shieldmaiden/) 13 Comments (http://renegadetribune.com/its-the-jews-stupid/#comments)
There has been a lot of divide in the pro-White movement lately.
There are a lot of great stand up men and women who want to come together and create a better life for ourselves and future white generations by ridding ourselves of the non-white orcs in our midst as well as freak shows like Bruce Jenner. We would like for future white kids to be able to grow up in a country where they are taught to be proud of the accomplishments of their race instead of being told that they are to blame for everything, where the sacrifice and hard work of their ancestors isn’t just handed off to an ungrateful mob of non-whites who always want more, where parents don’t have to worry about their five year old being taught about butt sex at school by homosexuals.

Then there’s the other group of “pro-White’s.” The MGTOW/alt-right folks who are making heroes out of losers like Middle Eastern rapist Roosh V who encourages a Peter Pan lifestyle in which males go out and try to bang everything they can. Many guys are only too happy to follow Roosh V and other PUA’s because according to them, everything is all women’s fault. Yes, EVERYTHING. 100%. Apparently, every man in the world is an innocent angel who has never done anything wrong and women are just evil, soulless bitches who sit around secretly plotting their demise.

To be fair, some of their anger is understandable. I too get pissed off when I see these smiling idiot European women holding up signs welcoming rapugees into their countries. I too get annoyed when I’m out at the grocery store and I see yet another white woman toting her mixed race mongrels around. I roll my eyes at these white women who just cannot wait to get on liberal sites like The Huffington Post and tell the world that they are married to a black guy, just so they can prove how awesome and not racist they are.

But it is wholly unfair and just plain wrong to place every square inch of the blame on women’s shoulders as if women just woke up one day and thought, “You know what? I’m just going to fuck up everything for the hell of it!”

Some manosphere guys seem to operate under the delusion that sixty years ago America was a perfect Leave-It-To-Beaver type of utopia where no one had any problems, but then one day feminism came along and women decided to throw it all away forever. Certainly feminism was a terrible thing that negatively impacted society and things were a lot better back then than they are now, but life was far from perfect. Many working class whites struggled to pay the bills just like they do now, and although the divorce rate wasn’t as high, there were still plenty of broken homes back then. There were abusive alcoholic mothers and fathers. There were both men and women who abandoned their children. There were women whose husband’s passed at an early age and they had to work so they could feed their kids so they were not able to stay home with them. Life was not perfect.

For every manosphere/MGTOW guy who says that everything happening now is all women’s fault, allow me to introduce you to our lovely hook-nosed friends, the JEWS. Consider everything they have done the past fifty years:

JEWS funded Martin Luther King Jr. and the snivel rights movement of the sixties.

JEWS had white children forced by gun point to go to school with black kids even though most white people at the time were against it. By forcing blacks to go to school with whites, white kids would become used to seeing black faces. By introducing them to white girls as early as possible, there was a higher chance of them dating blacks than if they were not.

JEWS have used slavery (which they were responsible for) for decades now as a tool to create white guilt by playing on our good nature.

JEWS own everything, including EVERY media outlet, so how would most people know what’s really going on when Jews have cleverly hid the agenda for so long? Do you really think CNN, Faux News, or MSNBC is going to run a story: “Tonight at seven, folks. How the Jews ruined everything.” Not likely.

JEWS funded the feminist movement. Every high profile feminist of the ‘70’s from Gloria Steinem to Susan Sontag to Betty Freidan was a Jewess. Gloria Steinem even admits in her own autobiography that Ms. Magazine, her feminist rag in the ‘70s was funded by the CIA, which of course is run by JEWS.

JEWS paid a lot of money to sell out blacks to produce the ear rape that is Rap Music and then promoted it via MTV, which (surprise!) is also owned by JEWS.

JEWS wrote and produced all of the sitcoms that have consistently portrayed white men as being dumb, lazy idiots incapable of accomplishing even the smallest of tasks.

JEWS also wrote and produced black sitcoms like The Cosby Show, Family Matters, A Different World, Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, etc., that always portrayed blacks in a positive light. No doubt this contributed to many white girls across America thinking of them as being “just like us” thereby allowing them to believe when they got older that it’s okay if they date them. After all, Will Smith is just so sweet and funny, gosh darn it! Most people don’t realize how susceptible kids are to TV PROGRAMMING. Until the age of twelve, children are very suggestible and it is easy to implant ideas in their subconscious. The JEWS know this because they are masters of psychology and manipulation. They have done an enormous amount of research and countless experiments for decades on psychology and how to brainwash the masses and they use “entertainment” for that very purpose.

JEWS invented the drug culture movement of the sixties as well as the rock music of that decade to encourage baby boomer teenagers to rebel and destroy everything good their parents had built.

JEWS convinced white people through the media and liberal college institutions that saying the word ‘nigger’ or even noticing black dysfunction is literally the worst thing a white person could ever do.

JEWS placed blacks front and center in sports and deliberately kept out talented white athletes so that young white boys would learn to worship their negro sports gods instead of Aryan athletes. It’s amazing that negroes throwing a ball around is considered some type of amazing accomplishment worth millions of dollars and endorsement deals.

JEWS have pushed race mixing in movies since 1967’s Guess Who’s Coming To Dinner?, and have continued to do so. No doubt that the Magic Negro character, as witnessed in so many movies today, left a positive impression in many a young white girls minds.

JEWS make all the lifestyle magazines for men and women that turn us into degenerate, self-obsessed, materialistic losers (.i.e. Cosmo, Redbook, Vogue for women, and Maxim, Playboy, and Penthouse for men).

JEWS created the joke that is the school system. Why is this important you might ask? Because children are not actually taught anything. They are not taught analytical thinking skills. Instead they are told to memorize a bunch of useless crap and then regurgitate it onto a paper. If they are good at that, they get an A and told that they are smart. Children are taught to accept and not question the status quo, which means by the time they get out of school, they are good little compliant slaves. They never question authority or what the mainstream media says because they have been encouraged all their lives to switch that part of their brain off.

JEWS created the toxic vaccines and the MILLIONS of chemicals like aspartame, MSG, partially hydrogenated oil and yellow #5, which are in all of our processed foods. These toxins dumb kids down by effecting their brain chemistry, thus making them less intelligent and more easy to manipulate.

Surely, it is obvious how much dumber some kids are today than they were just twenty years ago.

JEWS brought us the pornography industry and now little kids can access porn on their cell phones. Thanks JEWS!

JEWS created the biggest lie of all time and most people still believe it. I am of course talking about the Holohoax which brings us to…

JEWS own Hollywood and produce all the mind-numbing filth that comes out of it, including the six million Holohoax films shoved down our throat every single year.

JEWS create wars in shitty third world countries and then use pictures of dead kids to manipulate women into feeling bad so that they will allow towel head rapists into their country.

JEWS legalized abortion even though at that time over 75% of the country was against it. Even the woman in the infamous Roe v. Wade case now says she regrets her decision and that she was used to push an agenda. She is now a pro-life activist, but of course no one knows that because the JEW owned media won’t put her on television now. By JEWS legalizing abortion and pushing all different types of birth control, this encouraged women to engage in a Sex & The City type of lifestyle where casual sex replaced commitment.

JEWS financed singers like Madonna, Eminem, Miley Cyrus, and other “winners” to give kids shitty idols with no morals to emulate, thus destroying the decency and morality of many white kids all across the world. And don’t forget everyone’s favorite celebrity mud sharks, the Kardashians! They too are also brought to us courtesy of JEWS.

JEWS are wholly responsible for the gay agenda and the trans-gender agenda.

Now combine all of these things together: the toxic chemicals in our food and environment, the terrible school system that teaches nothing, the manipulation by JEWISH politicians and their enablers, plus all the brainwashing from TV, movies, and magazines that has been systematically done for decades, and then tell me that everything is still ALL women’s fault that society sucks. Really? You don’t think that maybe, just maybe…

it’s the JEWS, stupid!

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Neuro

1st April 2016, 04:21 AM

JEWS brought us the pornography industry

I would say this is the main reason for men to go their own way, without the cheap and easy substitute of porn, it simply wouldn't happen.

PatColo

26th April 2016, 06:04 AM

uk's digger; pretty dark but I've had these feelings for a long time...

This World
April 25, 2016 Digger for Truth 1 Comment

Often I wonder to myself, why on earth would people want to bring children into this sick, polluted and cruel world. I ask myself, is it wrong to bring life into a world….

….where the police and justice system is so blatantly corrupt

….where those running the world are demonically driven “eugenicists” and child abusers

….where muggings and rapes are rampant and escalating

….where the honest working classes who actually produce, create and provide for society are the ones who seem to struggle the most to survive; whilst those around them who parasite, use others and are corrupt seem to prosper

….where most people make all their decisions based on fear and mind control: cognitive dissonance, willful ignorance, insecurity and programming/conditioning

….where one no longer has autonomy in ones career – it’s simply slavery

….where the youth enter adulthood knowing they have minimal opportunities for a secure, fulfilling, stimulating and enjoyable career

….where homosexual, lesbian, trouples (tri same sex relationship) and transgender trends are the new normal and encouraged; where these people can legally within same sex relationships have their own children

….where people feel it is acceptable to be harsh, heartless, disrespectful and even oppressive towards others just in order to survive

….where local councils, MPs, and politicians are riddled with corruption

….where there is so little trust between people; and often that trust is abused

….where interracial marriages and having mixed race children is fashionable

….where children generally no longer have the freedom to go wandering off on their own to explore and discover

….where speaking the Truth means you will be vilified, attacked and ostracised; even by those close to you; as well as criminalised by the state

….where nearly anything of goodness and that which is natural is inverted

….where a third and final world war looks increasingly imminent

….where most of the people around us are willing to myopically sell out and serve this agenda in order to look after number one. With traitors amongst us who are willing to parasite and control their fellow brothers (sheople controlling the sheople)

….where it is near on impossible to simply go about ones day-to-day life without regularly receiving a penalty fine, court order or some sort of threat from government agents

….where race wars and civil wars are on the increase

….where it is perfectly legal for strangers ACTing on behalf of government agencies (debt collectors) to break into your home and unlawfully steel your property

….where our drinking water is deliberately poisoned by most governments

….where most of the people around us are conditioned, propagandised repeaters who ‘still’ trust the talking heads on their television screen, and believe their government is looking out for them and actually vote (that 2+2=5)

….where it is socially acceptable to incarcerate innocent people just for asking questions about a fictitious historical event

….where the governments across the world are spraying us with toxic chemtrails from planes and space

….where rape of white women by non-whites is blatantly apparent, yet covered up or down played and even covertly encouraged by corrupt jewish-controlled governments

….where the foods we eat have been systematically de-natured, poisoned and genetically modified

….where government big brother aims to watch and monitor our every move

….where mass migrations of non-whites are invading European countries as a biological weapon

….where once close-knit communities have been dissolved and we are now individualised only looking out for number one

….where children and parents alike are mind controlled from cradle to grave – and fiercely defend their mind control

….where mens’ and womens’ roles have been reversed

….where most people’s grandchildren won’t even look like them due to social engineered inter-racial breeding

….where people care more about their precious entertainment, fashion, hobbies, having fun, and being a socialite; than they do about the destruction of their society, race and neighbourhood

….where those amongst us have become sellout traitors – and looked up to by many in society

….where those who know what is going on are too scared of their own shadow, or apathetic, or selfish to do anything about it

….where the level of cruelty to animals is almost demonic and beyond comprehension

….where the elderly are treated as nothing more than inconvenience to society

….where most people around us are so unconscious and spiritually void, they have lost their true purpose in life

….where being a self-server is looked up to; selfishness and aggression are seen as positive traits

….where are bodies are so toxic, that where in previous generations our faeces could be used to feed plants, it will now kill the plant

….where history is nothing more than propaganda; and modern science either as frivolous entertainment or pseudo-religious doctrine

….where our mind-controlled health care providers incrementally poison and murder us

….where most of us are so detached form our natural environment: natural products, connection to the earth, ignorant of natural remedies, seasonal and natural foods and traditional medicines and bushcraft

….where children grow up conditioned to disrespect their parents and elders and turn their back on their family and cultural traditions in favour of social trends handed to them by jewish think tanks

….where society is divided between the haves and have nots

….where most people are subconsciously in fear of government authorities – yet refuse to recognise this as being watered-down tyranny

….where most people are unconscious, insecure, self-serving materialists; who’s priorities are focused on self-gratification and sensory pleasure seeking

….where men and women no longer acknowledge, nor respect each others natural roles; and the beautifully symbiotic bond has been fragmented

….where degenerative diseases which were once seen as rare and only in elderly, are now seen as normal symptoms of pre-middle age

….where science is the new religion and scientists the new high priests

….where the seas, rivers, lakes and land is deliberately poisoned by those who are supposed to be looking out for our best interests

….where most people reading this will think that I am being extreme, pessimistic and even paranoid

More and more each year, I feel bringing a child into this insane, cruel world; where the child will ultimately be a slave for jewish hegemony – is tantamount to child abuse.

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