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Cebu_4_2
8th December 2014, 12:29 PM
Police Ask If You’d Like Them To Search Your House For Guns (http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/cops-ask-people-volunteer-let-search-homes-guns/?hvid=3xlNxb)

Posted by Austin Petersen • 08 Dec 2014

BELOIT, WI – Police in Beloit, Wisconsin are starting a new program to ask city residents to volunteer to have their houses searched for guns. Chief Norm Jacobs hopes the problem will get people to think of gun violence like they do ebola, with a home inspection being like a vaccine.

“Gun violence is as serious as the Ebola virus is being represented in the media, and we should fight it using the tools that we’ve learned from our health providers,” said (http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/cops-ask-people-volunteer-let-search-homes-guns/Chief%20Jacobs) Chief Jacobs.

“It was clear to me that people in the community are looking for things that they can do to help cut violence in the community,” Jacobs said. “I think it’s appropriate that police try different things also.”

The police chief thinks that a search might result in the discovery of guns that people didn’t even know they had.
“That’s really what we’re looking for,” he said. “Maybe we’ll find a toy gun that’s been altered by a youngster in the house — and we know the tragedies that can occur there on occasion.”

WPR reported that one mother of a gun violence victim said: “Pretty much all those kids and young men just need to be is educated. You have a lot of them that barely read at a fifth-grade level yet they’re 25 year-old-men. But they know how to work a gun. There’s something wrong with that picture.”
Chief Jacobs went on to state that unsecured firearms are a much greater threat than any potential burglar.

“Guns not only are used in robberies, but they are used for suicides,” Jacobs said (http://www.beloitdailynews.com/news/chief-offers-search-for-illegal-weapons/article_6f56c314-7a39-11e4-92ba-87e8d4d18c49.html). “Easy access to weapons, especially weapons that you don’t know about, are a threat to your family. It’s not a criminal living next door that might kill your family member. You might have a family member that is suffering from some type of mental illness and easy access to a weapon could end their life.”

From the Beloit Daily News:

Those that do give consent will either see a member of the drug and gang unit or a detective come to the home. Jacobs said each person living in the home has some individual right to privacy. So if a room is locked the owner of the home may not have the right to open the door to police. So who is living at the residence will determine where police are allowed to search. Residents also have the right to stop the search at any time.

If a weapon is found in the home that isn’t legally owned it will be seized by police. Officers will then determine if it has been used in a crime in the city, Jacobs said.
He hopes the program will help residents take control of their community.

“We don’t want to be in people’s houses, but we have to talk about it,” Jacobs said. “We have to raise the question ‘What are you doing help the community be safer?’ A lot of folks’ expectation is way too high for police in terms of what we can do. This is something that we can do, raise awareness, and suggest that people take charge of their own home.”

mick silver
8th December 2014, 12:41 PM
people need to ask the cops if they can search their homes and let see their answer

Twisted Titan
8th December 2014, 12:48 PM
If a weapon is found in the home that isn’t legally owned it will be seized by police. Officers will then determine if it has been used in a crime in the city, Jacobs said.He hopes the program will help residents take control of their community.


Note NOTHING is said about immunity from being charged..

So in essence you will have the privilage of snitching on yourself, and winning the jackass of the universe award when word spreads through lockup what your doing a bid for

Ares
8th December 2014, 12:50 PM
If a weapon is found in the home that isn’t legally owned it will be seized by police. Officers will then determine if it has been used in a crime in the city, Jacobs said.He hopes the program will help residents take control of their community.


Note NOTHING is said about immunity from being charged..

So in essence you will have the privilage of snitching on yourself, and winning the jackass of the universe award when word spreads through lockup what your doing a bid for

Yeah I wouldn't be too surprised to see this go anywhere. Who in their right mind is going to invite police into their home to perform an unwarranted search / seizure?

mick silver
8th December 2014, 12:51 PM
ares there a fool born every second .remember the old saying

Twisted Titan
8th December 2014, 12:52 PM
Those that do give consent will either see a member of the drug and gang unit or a detective come to the home. Jacobs said each person living in the home has some individual right to privacy. So if a room is locked the owner of the home may not have the right to open the door to police. So who is living at the residence will determine where police are allowed to search. Residents also have the right to stop the search at any time.


You get a extra swiff kick in your ass if you believe that.


Once you give consent....there is no privacy in any one section.
Consent is all or nothing.
Prosecutors will have a feild day slicing you up on cross examination.

BrewTech
8th December 2014, 01:00 PM
Wow.

Wow!

Really?

Wow!

crimethink
8th December 2014, 03:53 PM
I thought this had to be a hoax, and the OP's source appeared to be a site that could easily have made the story up.

Uh, no, it's not made up. America is SO done:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/12/08/Police-Chief-Asks-City-Residents-To-Allow-Their-Homes-To-Be-Searched-For-Guns

http://www.wpr.org/beloit-police-ask-residents-volunteer-have-their-homes-searched-guns


Right now, it's "voluntary." Within a few years, it will be obligatory. The possible presence of "dangerous weapons" will be defined by lawyers (black-robed whores & politicians) as "exigent circumstances," negating the warrants issued on perjured testimony which are "required" now.

Glass
8th December 2014, 07:57 PM
mental health mental health mental health. I'm getting a bit of a vibe. Not only will they be looking but they will be questioning. Slightest sign of unhappiness and their guns will be gone.

old steel
8th December 2014, 09:20 PM
I need a new dog, one that will just leave those fuckers in shreds.

BrewTech
8th December 2014, 09:28 PM
I need a new dog, one that will just leave those fuckers in shreds.

The minute they saw it, it would be full of lead. Have you not been paying attention?

old steel
8th December 2014, 09:31 PM
The minute they saw it, it would be full of lead. Have you not been paying attention?

Yea and the instant they pulled out their guns they would be full of fucking lead.

They have no idea what they are going to be up against.

Besides BT, we are going to be in it so deep there will be no police, it will be everyone for themselves, kinda like now but on super steroids.

Glass
8th December 2014, 09:32 PM
The minute they saw it, it would be full of lead. Have you not been paying attention?

The trick is to have one who knows to "get around" on a discrete signal.

BrewTech
8th December 2014, 09:40 PM
Yea and the instant they pulled out their guns they would be full of fucking lead.

They have no idea what they are going to be up against.

This is presumably after you invited them to your house to search for guns. Have you been drying your hair in the microwave again?

old steel
8th December 2014, 09:48 PM
Worse man, totally baked.

BrewTech
8th December 2014, 09:50 PM
Worse man, totally baked.

Alright then.

Glass
8th December 2014, 10:32 PM
Worse man, totally baked.

Moar brownies

Norweger
9th December 2014, 12:02 AM
Soon you will all have to get a safe and you will all have to agree to inspections.

old steel
9th December 2014, 12:22 AM
This is presumably after you invited them to your house to search for guns. Have you been drying your hair in the microwave again?

Dude you know i would never do that.

Which fucked up state did this happen in?

old steel
9th December 2014, 12:23 AM
Soon you will all have to get a safe and you will all have to agree to inspections.

Got a few, guess what they are filled with?

Oh yea and http://lesvisible.net/MEDIA/IMAGES/911ButtonL.png

Shami-Amourae
9th December 2014, 02:22 AM
Yeah I wouldn't be too surprised to see this go anywhere. Who in their right mind is going to invite police into their home to perform an unwarranted search / seizure?

Usually divorcing or married women in an "abusive" relationship. When I was a kid my father owned a little 22 rifle and during when my parents were divorcing the police came in and searched the house and took his gun. He didn't hit her or anything. She just had to say she was "afraid" and that was enough.

And by the way, my mom now is extremely pro-gun now and my father is anti-gun. People change.

midnight rambler
9th December 2014, 02:55 AM
Yeah I wouldn't be too surprised to see this go anywhere. Who in their right mind is going to invite police into their home to perform an unwarranted search / seizure?

The question is: how many people are 'in their right mind' these days? lol

Ares
9th December 2014, 05:09 AM
The question is: how many people are 'in their right mind' these days? lol

Appears to be fewer and fewer as the years go on.

Twisted Titan
9th December 2014, 05:54 AM
Soon you will all have to get a safe and you will all have to agree to inspections.


We see that you are trying to be safe.

We just have to check on a regular basis how safe you are.

For your own protection of course.

crimethink
9th December 2014, 02:39 PM
Keep in mind that, at least in some states, only one "lawful resident" needs to consent to entry. It doesn't matter what you, the homeowner, spouse, or roommate want. If they live there "legally," they can invite them in. And once in, the cops have the backing of the System to search anything not locked, including your bedroom, home office, garage, etc.

midnight rambler
9th December 2014, 02:50 PM
Keep in mind that, at least in some states, only one "lawful resident" needs to consent to entry. It doesn't matter what you, the homeowner, spouse, or roommate want. If they live there "legally," they can invite them in. And once in, the cops have the backing of the System to search anything not locked, including your bedroom, home office, garage, etc.

Well there ya go. NEVER allow ANYONE to be a 'resident' within the confines of your household. EVER.

crimethink
9th December 2014, 03:33 PM
Well there ya go. NEVER allow ANYONE to be a 'resident' within the confines of your household. EVER.

"Resident" is according to them, not you.

A "resident" is someone who is on the title, lease, and/or "regularly" receives mail at your address.

midnight rambler
9th December 2014, 04:05 PM
"Resident" is according to them, not you.

A "resident" is someone who is on the title, lease, and/or "regularly" receives mail at your address.

I can't speak for you and you most certainly cannot speak for me. *I* have NEVER relinquished my right to self-determination (i.e. to determine my own status). If you think that the state is in any position to make legal determinations for you then you're more fucked than you realize*.

*naturally if you have a state issued ID document then you ARE a 'resident' - and you volunteered into that status, much like the hypocrite Sui Juris aka IownME

crimethink
9th December 2014, 06:31 PM
I can't speak for you and you most certainly cannot speak for me. *I* have NEVER relinquished my right to self-determination (i.e. to determine my own status). If you think that the state is in any position to make legal determinations for you then you're more fucked than you realize*.


Why don't you cut the utter bullshit and admit that the cops do what they feel they can get away with? Magic words and fancy self-created documents do not stop bullets. The "legal" system does not exempt you just because you say so. If someone living in your home (however you want to categorize it) lets them in, they're coming in. If they claim "searching for weapons" is now "exigent circumstances," they're coming in. Though you are free to open fire. Force can only be repelled with force, not Jew-shyster Kabbalistic magical formulae.

Don't mislead people with these garbage "legal" tricks. "They" do what they want and they take what they want, regardless of whatever formal "lack of consent" is standing.

palani
9th December 2014, 06:39 PM
Guns are one issue. If in the process of a search they find both drugs and guns the combination and associated penalty will be 10x worse.

You folks did know that when police search they are looking for any evil doing? 'Course you could ok the search for the illegal guns if you could get them to agree to ignore the shackled up sex slave you keep in the basement.