What is your gut feeling about this?

[old steel]

Pushing on a rope


http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/M2V/


Another nasty chart.

http://www.investmenttools.com/images/wfut/crb/bdi.gif

(http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/M2V/)

[Neuro]

Collapse of world trade started in 2008 and nothing seems to revive it! War and collapse of civilization is next...

[EE_]

Collapse of world trade started in 2008 and nothing seems to revive it! War and collapse of civilization is next...

Who needs world trade when you have an accommodating Federal Reserve and a booming stock market?

[Neuro]

Who needs world trade when you have an accommodating Federal Reserve and a booming stock market?
It is smoke and mirrors, and the illusion can only be maintained for so long, war provides more smoke. Good thing about WWIII though is that it will be the war that ends all wars for a very long long time...

[EE_]

It is smoke and mirrors, and the illusion can only be maintained for so long, war provides more smoke. Good thing about WWIII though is that it will be the war that ends all wars for a very long long time...

Yes, it can only be mintained for so long...maybe another 20 years?
How old will you be in 20 years? What will matter at that point of your life?

[Hitch]

Yes, it can only be mintained for so long...maybe another 20 years?
How old will you be in 20 years? What will matter at that point of your life?

20 years sounds good to me. Personally, that's when I plan on retiring, and I wouldn't mind not having any wars at that time, already survived the collapse, and can relax with a stable market and currency.

[gunDriller]

It is smoke and mirrors, and the illusion can only be maintained for so long, war provides more smoke. Good thing about WWIII though is that it will be the war that ends all wars for a very long long time...


the general public is so wired into that illusion, they believe Jew news before they believe their own instinct & reasoning ability.

[midnight rambler]

the general public is so wired into that illusion, they believe Jew news before they believe their own instinct & reasoning ability.

The perception of reality is more important than reality itself.

[Spectrism]

Without having surrounding data, there is not much you can figure from this- with any crediblity. One thing that would be good to know is: how many ships have been produced over the last 30 years? Increasing the supply of shipping (which China did) can destroy the shipping market. Fuel prices down also knocks this index down.

It is hard to say... actually - impossible to say, how much of this index is because there is no demand for raw materials. Need more info.

[mick silver]

most are no longer able to think for their selfs
the general public is so wired into that illusion, they believe Jew news before they believe their own instinct & reasoning ability.

[mick silver]

old did you make that chart ... no more moon juice for you