Need help on buying silver

[mick silver]

I have saved some funds hoping I could get a good deal on a monster box. if you were going to buy were would you guys look to order from for the best deal . at one time I used apmex but they went way up on using a credit card if you have a place you have order from and know of a great deal let me know . I just don't see silver going much lower so I am looking to make my last buy of silver . thanks mick

[EE_]

I have saved some funds hoping I could get a good deal on a monster box. if you were going to buy were would you guys look to order from for the best deal . at one time I used apmex but they went way up on using a credit card if you have a place you have order from and know of a great deal let me know . I just don't see silver going much lower so I am looking to make my last buy of silver . thanks mick

Check prices between the two and what year coins if it matters
A bankwire is always the best/quickest way to buy.

http://www.jmbullion.com/silver/silver-coins/american-silver-eagles/uncirculated-ase/
They take PayPal

http://www.golddealer.com/product/american-silver-eagle-monster-box-of-500-coins/
Ask for Ken Slater

[gunDriller]

http://www.providentmetals.com/1-oz-buffalo-silver-round.html

NTR Buffalo's for 69 cents over spot. Though their spot is 4 to 25 cents above spot-spot.

[old steel]

You can't eat silver, mick. :)

[mick silver]

but I grow beans

[old steel]

Beans are good, lots of fiber and protein.

I was walking out of Costco yesterday and i ran across this guy with a huge sack of potatoes, i said, "what you don't grow your own?" He just laughed and said nope.

[mick silver]

I have over 100 pounds of potatoes in the cellar they are good fry up with pinto beans and corn bread , there nothing like eating beans potatoes corn bread and playing with your silver oh hell a feel a fart coming on

[gunDriller]

but I grow beans

i have wild peas.

one of the cooler sounds i've heard is in the summer when the pea pods rupture. they are 'designed' (it would appear, by the forces of nature perhaps) to fling the dry peas a few feet.

it happens a lot more when the summer heat comes on. So if you're standing in the Pea grove about an hour after the sun comes out, you will hear this "Psshhhh" sound followed by the lightly percussive sound of the peas hitting whatever they've been thrown into.

if it's prime-time pea-flinging season for the peas, it almost sounds like jazz, because it happens every few seconds.

that is August. then the peas sprout in March.

[monty]

I just bought silver from J M Bullion. They shipped the next day. The price was less than APMEX.

[Twisted Titan]

If i had that type of dough

I would 10,000 dollars in mercury dimes for several reasons

There is virtually no premium so you are picking up maximum metal at a few cents above spot, nobody can match that because they have recoup fabrication costs and profit

It is the smallest unit of divisible silver recognized by face alone


On the day after when society is trying to get kick started again you will have a meduim of exchange in a most desirable form and because of that there will come a day when mercury dimes will command a legendary prememium.

There are people out there still willing to take fake money for real money

[mick silver]

thanks guys I place my order this morning .... I cant wait till it here so I can play with my box . should I open it are not ? cut the seal . so far on the other box I have not but I really really want to

[EE_]

thanks guys I place my order this morning .... I cant wait till it here so I can play with my box . should I open it are not ? cut the seal . so far on the other box I have not but I really really want to

What year eagles did you get and who did you end up going through?

Hopefully you made a great buy!

A monster box is a nice way to start the new year!

[mick silver]

http://www.providentmetals.com/2014-american-silver-eagle-monster-box-500-1-oz-bullion-coins.html 2014 . do I open the box are not ?????????????????????????????? I have always wan to open a box and play with a roll are two

[EE_]

http://www.providentmetals.com/2014-american-silver-eagle-monster-box-500-1-oz-bullion-coins.html 2014 . do I open the box are not I have always wan to open a box and play with a roll are two

There's a very small chance you will ever sell the box for more money because it is still sealed.
1. If you believe silver is going to be worth a lot more in the future, who's going to be able to afford it? Silver @ $100 an ounce = $50,000 for the box
2. if you do open it, try to keep the bands intact and all the packaging, so you can put it back that way.
3. I think you should dump them all out on the floor and roll naked in them! :)

From CMI
Should you open a Silver Eagle Monster Box?
Because a Silver Eagle Monster Box comes sealed, buyers often ask, "Should I open it?" Maybe yes, maybe no.

A few years ago, there was a major promotion of Silver Eagle sets that contained MS69- and/or MS70-graded Silver Eagles. Some of the sets contained NGC-graded Silver Eagles; some of the sets contained PCGS-graded coins. In order to get coins of all the years, coins that would grade MS69 or MS70, promoters paid higher prices for sealed boxes of Silver Eagles.

Therefore, many coin dealers tell buyers of Silver Eagle Monster Boxes not to open them because a similar situation may arise in the future, where sealed Silver Eagle Monster Boxes may command higher premiums. At CMIGS, we see little value in keeping unopened Green Monster Boxes in anticipation of that happening again.

The unopened boxes that commanded significant premiums were the short mintage years, 1996 and 1994. For a while, 1986, the first year Silver Eagles, carried high premiums. But, as the promotion winded down, premiums on all the coins fell in line. Because of being a short mintage year, 1996 Silver Eagles still carry higher premiums than other backdated Silver Eagles.

(Note: CMI Gold & Silver Inc. does not sell Silver Eagles by dates. We may at times have backdated Silver Eagles, which usually sell at lower premiums than new Silver Eagles, but we not inventory and sell them by dates. In fact, the minimum Silver Eagle order at CMIGS is 500 coins, a Silver Eagle Monster Box, sometimes called a Green Monster Box.)

Now, the case for opening a sealed Silver Eagle Monster Box. If you do not open it, how will you know that really received Silver Eagles? Still, at CMIGS we know of no one ever having opened a Green Monster Box and finding any thing other than Silver Eagles. Many Green Monster Box buyers, after having opened their first and/or second purchase, quit opening them.

[Hitch]

http://www.providentmetals.com/2014-american-silver-eagle-monster-box-500-1-oz-bullion-coins.html 2014 . do I open the box are not ?????????????????????????????? I have always wan to open a box and play with a roll are two

I would open the box. I figure, if you need to sell it at some point in the future, the buyer is going to want to open it anyway to verify the contents.

May as well open it now, and enjoy it.

[mick silver]

are watch the wife roll around naked in them I like that one better . . my first box is not been open yet

[gunDriller]

http://www.providentmetals.com/2014-american-silver-eagle-monster-box-500-1-oz-bullion-coins.html 2014 . do I open the box are not ?????????????????????????????? I have always wan to open a box and play with a roll are two

nothing wrong with checking the rolls to make sure they're what you expected.


a good reason to buy 1 extra, for example 501.

one for on top of the television, the other 500 for the pre-boating accident sacred repositorium.

[EE_]

I would open the box. I figure, if you need to sell it at some point in the future, the buyer is going to want to open it anyway to verify the contents.

May as well open it now, and enjoy it.

I agree, good point...I wouldn't buy it from you without opening it. Too many slick people out there that might fill it with bricks.
OPEN THE BOX!

[crimethink]

On the day after when society is trying to get kick started again you will have a meduim of exchange in a most desirable form and because of that there will come a day when mercury dimes will command a legendary prememium.

It is a complete myth that Mercury Dimes (or any pre-1965 coinage) have "special value" in an "economic crisis scenario." It only has silver content value, to those who understand silver content value. Most people see such coins at face value. Try to explain to most people that a 1954 Dime or Quarter has value above 10 cents or 25 cents, respectively. You will get scowls and/or laughter, maybe even a call to the cops for alleged fraud.

[Hitch]

It is a complete myth that Mercury Dimes (or any pre-1965 coinage) have "special value" in an "economic crisis scenario." It only has silver content value, to those who understand silver content value. Most people see such coins at face value. Try to explain to most people that a 1954 Dime or Quarter has value above 10 cents or 25 cents, respectively. You will get scowls and/or laughter, maybe even a call to the cops for alleged fraud.

In Weimar Germany silver had special value. True things are different these days, but history does have a way of repeating itself.

[EE_]

It is a complete myth that Mercury Dimes (or any pre-1965 coinage) have "special value" in an "economic crisis scenario." It only has silver content value, to those who understand silver content value. Most people see such coins at face value. Try to explain to most people that a 1954 Dime or Quarter has value above 10 cents or 25 cents, respectively. You will get scowls and/or laughter, maybe even a call to the cops for alleged fraud.

Maybe only 'boomers' know that pre-64 coins are silver right now, but when the real panic to get out of fiat currency begins and people rush towards real money, people will learn quickly what is silver.

[Twisted Titan]

It is a complete myth that Mercury Dimes (or any pre-1965 coinage) have "special value" in an "economic crisis scenario." It only has silver content value, to those who understand silver content value. Most people see such coins at face value. Try to explain to most people that a 1954 Dime or Quarter has value above 10 cents or 25 cents, respectively. You will get scowls and/or laughter, maybe even a call to the cops for alleged fraud.

I disagree whole heartedly

Riddle me this one my Good Sir.

On the day after you decided to sell a much prized widget

Buyer A comes with 10,000 of pre 1965 coinage
Buyer B comes with 10,000 of Mercury Dimes

Which one would you prefer?

To sit there and screen 10,000 coins to make sure your not getting cheated?
Or open a bag quickly sift back and forth several times to make sure you see the easily recognized face?


In due time word will spread that Mercs makes transactions that much easier and THAT is the reason a premium will grow

On the day after Trust wont be high among strangers so the faster and more secure you can do your business the better for everybody.

The things that makes transaction easier the more in demAnd they will be....just a matter of commonsense






you

[mick silver]

if your buying my widget I know the bag of coins I want

[crimethink]

Maybe only 'boomers' know that pre-64 coins are silver right now, but when the real panic to get out of fiat currency begins and people rush towards real money, people will learn quickly what is silver.

That is 100% assumption. In a panic, most people will concern themselves only with where their next meal is coming from. They will focus on what they "know" and can see, not what you tell them.

[crimethink]

I disagree whole heartedly

Riddle me this one my Good Sir.

On the day after you decided to sell a much prized widget

Buyer A comes with 10,000 of pre 1965 coinage
Buyer B comes with 10,000 of Mercury Dimes

Which one would you prefer?

To sit there and screen 10,000 coins to make sure your not getting cheated?
Or open a bag quickly sift back and forth several times to make sure you see the easily recognized face?


In due time word will spread that Mercs makes transactions that much easier and THAT is the reason a premium will grow

On the day after Trust wont be high among strangers so the faster and more secure you can do your business the better for everybody.

The things that makes transaction easier the more in demAnd they will be....just a matter of commonsense


You are speaking to someone who knows what a Mercury Dime is and who values it for what it really is. You are assuming that the masses have any interest in learning, especially during a crisis. They will rely on what they (think they) "know" and can readily see. They're not going to listen to you about "this is valuable, much more valuable than the other shiny silver dime from 2008." In fact, peddle Mercury Dimes to the wrong people in a panic, claiming they're "worth more" than face value, and you might get a gun in your face as a crook.

[KenJackson]

Darn! I missed your deadline. But I can't resist.
For a 2014 Monster Box of 500 silver American Eagles, pay by check:

$9,210.00 at Silver.com (http://www.silver.com/2014-1-oz-silver-american-eagles-monster-box-500/), free shipping

$9,200.00 at Goldmart.com (http://www.goldmart.com/bullion/silver-bullion/american-silver-eagles/2014-1-oz-american-silver-eagle.html) (actually, these are $18.40 each for any quantity--just order 500)

$9,178.50 at BGASC.com (http://www.bgasc.com/product/mint-sealed-monster-box-of-2014-1-oz-american-silver-eagles/silver-american-eagles-sealed-monster-boxes), free shipping

[mick silver]

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[Sparky]

You are speaking to someone who knows what a Mercury Dime is and who values it for what it really is. You are assuming that the masses have any interest in learning, especially during a crisis. They will rely on what they (think they) "know" and can readily see. They're not going to listen to you about "this is valuable, much more valuable than the other shiny silver dime from 2008." In fact, peddle Mercury Dimes to the wrong people in a panic, claiming they're "worth more" than face value, and you might get a gun in your face as a crook.

You are assuming to know what scenario is going to play out, and what people are going to think. People knew what Beanie Babies were valuable in the 1990s. People learn fast once a market becomes hot.

I happen to think that the most potential for return on precious metals is NOT a crisis scenario. Rather, it will be in a scenario wherein people become collectively afraid of a future crisis. That is what has driven the price for the last 14 years, anticipation of some bad future. The more and more that people become aware of a potential crisis, the more the purchasing power of precious metals will increase. At the actual onset of a crisis, their purchasing power will drop dramatically, losing out to useful tangible items. Then, after a crisis scenario has played out and equilibrium is reached, the purchasing power of precious metals will be restored.

So, the relative value of things will alternate in waves which cannot really be fully anticipated. So, own everything. Dollars, pure bullion, mercs, land, guns, food/water, useful stuff, knowledge. They'll all take their turns having relatively high value as things play out over the next 15 years.

[old steel]

We have 15 years left on this ride?

[crimethink]

You are assuming to know what scenario is going to play out, and what people are going to think.


Actually, no, I don't.

Based on real-world evidence, I believe that the masses will not react as silver bugs expect them to (hope they do).




People learn fast once a market becomes hot.


Not really. Most will continue to follow the Talmudvision and convenience. You remember Sheila Bair telling everyone that the FDIC "guaranteed" their money back in 2009? Expect similar in a future crisis.

The "Cash for Gold" type of scam is evidence of my contention; advertising told them "junk" gold was valuable, but they had no f-ing clue its actual value, and regularly got scammed. Most people do not think.




I happen to think that the most potential for return on precious metals is NOT a crisis scenario. Rather, it will be in a scenario wherein people become collectively afraid of a future crisis. That is what has driven the price for the last 14 years, anticipation of some bad future. The more and more that people become aware of a potential crisis, the more the purchasing power of precious metals will increase. At the actual onset of a crisis, their purchasing power will drop dramatically, losing out to useful tangible items. Then, after a crisis scenario has played out and equilibrium is reached, the purchasing power of precious metals will be restored.

There's a huge problem in your scenario: most "precious metals" are electronic, and the usual financial sorcery can make them go up or down at will.

[KenJackson]

Most people do not think.
I certainly agree.

But I also find it alternately alarming and amusing that intelligent people on both sides of any intransigent issue say that very thing when discussing opposition to what they believe is true.

[Hitch]

There's a huge problem in your scenario: most "precious metals" are electronic, and the usual financial sorcery can make them go up or down at will.

We've been talking about that for years however, how eventually there will be a disconnect from the electronic traded price of metals, and the actual physical price to hold/own it.

You will have a black market traded price on the street for goods and services. Not a .gov controlled price to mask inflation.

Basically, sell your SLV shares and buy mercs.

[gunDriller]

You are speaking to someone who knows what a Mercury Dime is and who values it for what it really is. You are assuming that the masses have any interest in learning, especially during a crisis. They will rely on what they (think they) "know" and can readily see. They're not going to listen to you about "this is valuable, much more valuable than the other shiny silver dime from 2008." In fact, peddle Mercury Dimes to the wrong people in a panic, claiming they're "worth more" than face value, and you might get a gun in your face as a crook.


i think a good portrayal of Zombie's is Season 3 disk 1 of Sons of Anarchy, when the bikers are helping an independent pharmacist fight off a group of about 5 tweakers that want her $500,000 of drugs ('Scrip').

the tweakers being the General Public.

in that fictional episode, it was old fashioned lead, the metal that got their attention.


i would say the collapse started in 2008/2009, possibly 2001.

many people have learned about the merits of circulated silver as a store of value - and sometimes as a medium of exchange.


but here we are, in the middle of collapse, and the US $ is somehow the fiat of the day/year.


i'm not knocking Merc's, i like them.

[KenJackson]

I would 10,000 dollars in mercury dimes for several reasons
...
It is the smallest unit of divisible silver recognized by face alone


Which one would you prefer?

To sit there and screen 10,000 coins to make sure your not getting cheated?
Or open a bag quickly sift back and forth several times to make sure you see the easily recognized face?



Perhaps you will be unhappy if this generic round becomes popular. It's 1/10 oz of silver compared to a dime's 0.0715 oz and seems to be just about the size of a penny, which is very slightly larger than a dime.

It would be very confusing and irritating to have a handful of mixed silver with some mercs and some of these.


http://www.silver.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/1-10-oz-merc-dime-obv.jpg (http://www.silver.com/1-10-oz-mercury-dime-silver-rounds/)

But then, I'm still hoping civilization won't degrade to the point where we're buying our groceries with random mixed silver.

[Sparky]

Yeah, I don't like it when they make silver rounds using highly recognizable coin designs, e.g. St. Gaudens, Buffalo nickel, etc.