Theory About Comets – ‘It’s the electricity stupid’

[singular_me]

in the bible: in the beginning was the Word...

aka vibration/frequency/electromagnetism...... sure, it must be new agey :D

we'll have to learn to think in term of electromagnetism, sooner than later, because the latter rules over our emotions and connects us directly to the Ether, where electromagnetism originates from.

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Rosetta Mission Evidence Demolishes ‘Science’ Theory About Comets – ‘It’s the electricity stupid’

Published on Dec 30, 2014

For several months now, the Rosetta Mission has followed the comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko around the sun. And as we’ve expected, direct observation continues to add one mystery to another. How are we to understand the weird configurations of dust on the comet’s surface?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0smmBtmO_cU


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[BarnkleBob]

In the beginning there was the word...and god SAID "let there be light."

Sonoluminescence is the emission of short bursts of light from imploding bubbles in a liquid when excited by sound.

Electricity is theoretically a by-product of the speed of light..... but there are even stranger events now occuring in the universe...off topic but worthy of mention in this thread....

Universe is being Swallow Up by dark energy leaving 'big, empty' space, says shock study

http://www.oneworldofnations.com/2014/11/universe-is-being-swallow-up-by-dark.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed:+OneWorldOfNations+(One+World+of +Nations)&m=1

Where Have All the Pulsars Gone? The Mystery at the Center of Our Galaxy

http://beforeitsnews.com/space/2014/11/where-have-all-the-pulsars-gone-the-mystery-at-the-center-of-our-galaxy-2484938.html

[Glass]

I tend to think we are sucking energy, electricity out of the sun and other bodies. Perhaps our exponential electrical usage is starting to show some impact on bodies like the sun?

By sucking I mean, when we induce electricity using magnets and a copper windings we are not making electricity, we are inducing it or conjuring it might be a better word. We are not creating it but taking it from somewhere and pulling it down for our own use.

The probably that all of the craters we see on other planets and moons as well as our own are not impacts of physical objects at all but electrical discharges between celestial bodies, in our case the most likely candidate is Saturn given the esoteric writings about earths history.

and this could be biblical in it's meaning:

Scientists have claimed that the universe could become a void of nothingness, as the dark matter of which the universe is built on is slowly being erased by dark energy.

Dark energy? I wonder who that could be? Or maybe it's an exit strategy from a dubious scientific assumption.

[BarnkleBob]

I tend to think we are sucking energy, electricity out of the sun and other bodies. Perhaps our exponential electrical usage is starting to show some impact on bodies like the sun?

By sucking I mean, when we induce electricity using magnets and a copper windings we are not making electricity, we are inducing it or conjuring it might be a better word. We are not creating it but taking it from somewhere and pulling it down for our own use.

The probably that all of the craters we see on other planets and moons as well as our own are not impacts of physical objects at all but electrical discharges between celestial bodies, in our case the most likely candidate is Saturn given the esoteric writings about earths history.

and this could be biblical in it's meaning:


Dark energy? I wonder who that could be? Or maybe it's an exit strategy from a dubious scientific assumption.

A significant ? comes to mind.... as we have thus far know & observe, earth is from our knowledge base the only planet (so far discovered by humanoids) that supports carbon based life..... IOW there is the possibility that it requires the source power of either this galaxy or the entire universe to support one little planet of carbon based electrical beings....

[singular_me]

BB, this one will be worth your time

Light Does Not Travel by Walter Russell
http://lightspeedzero.wordpress.com/2012/08/28/light-does-not-travel-by-walter-russell/




Electricity is theoretically a by-product of the speed of light.....

[Glass]

BB, this one will be worth your time

Light Does Not Travel by Walter Russell
http://lightspeedzero.wordpress.com/2012/08/28/light-does-not-travel-by-walter-russell/

I remember a discussion we had here a couple months back, can't remember the electrical/wave scientist. Said you can't see the sun except by its reflection, atmosphere, other planets reflecting light etc.

[singular_me]

This will seem like a semantic issue to many but this is what russell contends
‘Light does not travel … It reproduce itself’. and the speed of this reproduction depends of the frequency and length of these waves.


from link above
Light cannot be seen, it can only be known. Light is still. The sense of sight cannot respond to stillness. That which the eyes “feel” and believe to be Light is but wave motion simulating the idea of Light. Like all things else in this electric wave universe the idea of Light cannot be produced. Electric waves simulate idea only. They do not become idea.
When man sees the light of the sun he believes that he is actually seeing light when the nerves of his eyes are but “feeling” the intense, rapid, short- wave vibrations of the kind of wave motion which he senses as incandescence. The intensely vibrant electric current mirrored into the senses of the eyes fairly burns them. They cannot stand that high rate of vibration. The eyes would be destroyed by such a vibration but light would not be the cause of that destruction. Fast motion, simulating light, would be the cause. It would be like sending a high voltage electric current over a wire, so fine that the current would burn it out.

Man likewise cannot see darkness. The nerves of his eyes, which sense motion, slow down to a rate of vibration that he can no longer “feel.”Man is so accustomed to the idea that he actually sees light in various intensities illuminating various substances to greater or lesser degree that it is difficult for him to realize that his own senses are but acting as mirrors to reflect various intensities of wave motion. But that is all that is happening.




I remember a discussion we had here a couple months back, can't remember the electrical/wave scientist. Said you can't see the sun except by its reflection, atmosphere, other planets reflecting light etc.

[singular_me]

Sonoluminescence is the emission of short bursts of light from imploding bubbles in a liquid when excited by sound.

I have seen this experiment in several videos and this will/could have huge implications in favor of free energy. I agree with Russell that as long as we build our theories on the "consequences" instead of "cause", sciences remains destined to come up with models that wont last in time.

well that's precisely the same faulty assumptions (found in the fields of sociology/philosophy/spirituality) that are leading societies on the brink of the abyss.

I am who I am, in the beginning was the word, let there be light... all allegories to explain the very basics of physics and why moving from there is essential.

although, its all about finding the right frequency for each case, sound/color therapies for example are for real. This is the basis of the chakras system... right, it all new age crap according to some on here.

[Horn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObIijwKMHcs

[7th trump]

BB, this one will be worth your time

Light Does Not Travel by Walter Russell
http://lightspeedzero.wordpress.com/2012/08/28/light-does-not-travel-by-walter-russell/

Well, as usual, you're once again wrong singular.
Laser's prove light travels. Fiber optic cable proves light (photons) travel.
Fiber optics and lasers wouldnt work if light didnt travel.

Try again....and maybe this time be honest instead of injecting theories as truths.

[Horn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYzEy4GlcQI#t=227

[singular_me]

Horn, good find, will watch it tomorrow

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1st link: if the observation is correct, then no big crunch/bang theory, electric universe theorists may have won their case beyond doubt. Further, the article is vague... I regard the cosmos as a multiverse and would tend to think that what happen within "a" universe doesnt specially happen in another one.

I like the conclusion of the article though: back to square one ;D
"We've known for some months now that there is some problem in all data fitting perfectly to the standard simplest model."

science-fiction? And what if our destiny as sentient beings is to make sure we can escape when time has become critical and using our knowledge to spread/perpetuate Life. Universes are born and die... this brings us back to the Archons and other sun gods that have enslaved our species. The truth may be beyond fiction as usual


Have not read the 2nd one yet



Universe is being Swallow Up by dark energy leaving 'big, empty' space, says shock study

http://www.oneworldofnations.com/2014/11/universe-is-being-swallow-up-by-dark.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed:+OneWorldOfNations+(One+World+of +Nations)&m=1

Where Have All the Pulsars Gone? The Mystery at the Center of Our Galaxy

http://beforeitsnews.com/space/2014/11/where-have-all-the-pulsars-gone-the-mystery-at-the-center-of-our-galaxy-2484938.html

[singular_me]

I associate dark matter to the ether.... but think you are right... dark energy: a term used just like junk DNA... a formula to include things they dont understand themselves. I just found the national geographic link after writing this.




and this could be biblical in it's meaning:
Dark energy? I wonder who that could be? Or maybe it's an exit strategy from a dubious scientific assumption.


EDIT
Scientists find hint of dark matter from cosmos
july 2012 — A $2 billion cosmic ray detector on the International Space Station has found the footprint of something that could be dark matter, the mysterious substance that is believed to hold the cosmos together but has never been directly observed, scientists say.http://rt.com/news/dark-matter-space-filament-490/


Dark Matter and Dark Energy - National Geographic
... Scientists have not yet observed dark matter directly. ... Unlike for dark matter, scientists have no plausible explanation for dark energy. http://science.nationalgeographic.com/science/space/dark-matter/

[Glass]

good little intro video there Horn.

This video loaded after the one Horn posted. 44 minutes. Starts out with some humour.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRsGPq77X0Q

have not watched all yet, but I think I've watched this one before.

This one is a bit technical but I think I'm getting it.

[Horn]

Describes the North American Bipolar Galaxy here.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJrE36ETBxU

[Horn]

This interview gets it down into layman's terms real well, I thought.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhwsMsH8yIg#t=468

[Serpo]

Been talking to someone that reckons the sun isnt hot but more electric and we only feel its heat because of its interaction with our atmosphere....................

[Glass]

thats it. I was watching one of those videos or reading on some web site. There was a scientist who determined that the internal heat of the sun was far too low to initiate let alone support the thermonuclear hydrogen reaction that science talks about.

[Horn]

Been talking to someone that reckons the sun isnt hot but more electric and we only feel its heat because of its interaction with our atmosphere....................

I've seen it written that the Earth's own thermosphere reaches 2500C, I've also heard some people say the Sun's output doesn't vary to effect it much.

Well that second part was written by someone also, I didn't actually listen to them.

[BarnkleBob]

One may easily google "the black sun," which esoterically has been regarded as the suns true light & essence.... IOW the light we think we observe is as the Gnostics & Hermes/Thoth taught is the "veil of illusion."

Where & how is "possibility & probability" created in our reality? These must be constantly manufactured and they must be guided by a universal law of some kind.... Physicists now regard that there are "pools of electrons" that pop into and out of existence when the observer initiates an observation..... it seems that the electrical system in reality is akin to flipping a light switch on.... when the observer begins observing....

As for the dark matter/energy.... one could easily view these phenomenas as "pools of possibility & probability" essentially in wait to be called upon ..... Researchers as discovery continues are concluding that much of what we believe is reality is actually illusion.... just exactly what did Einstein calculate, i.e. "speed of light" (186,400 mps)? Is the equation erroneously attributed to the speed of light, or if this is an illusion wouldnt that speed limit actually be the redraw & refresh rate of this matrix itself as seen by an observer?

Why would light have a speed in the absence of an observer? Further why would light possess a "constant speed" with some many various forces of motion that theoretically would exert various energies upon the light particles hence creating a variety of speeds and gyrations in the particle itself as it travels and traverses its path??? Physics however informs us that light travels at a constant speed.... but it doesnt inform us why light, its speed and its path are not subject to the extreme natural forces it encounters.

Is light the illusion...... ???

[Neuro]

Been talking to someone that reckons the sun isnt hot but more electric and we only feel its heat because of its interaction with our atmosphere....................
He doesn't believe the light from the moon is a reflection of Suns light emissions? Or does he believe the moon has an atmosphere too? Or does he believe the moon is emitting its own light, according to suns positions (sometimes you have a moon that is not full and it seems to me it correlates quite well to the suns position).

[Neuro]

One may easily google "the black sun," which esoterically has been regarded as the suns true light & essence.... IOW the light we think we observe is as the Gnostics & Hermes/Thoth taught is the "veil of illusion."

Where & how is "possibility & probability" created in our reality? These must be constantly manufactured and they must be guided by a universal law of some kind.... Physicists now regard that there are "pools of electrons" that pop into and out of existence when the observer initiates an observation..... it seems that the electrical system in reality is akin to flipping a light switch on.... when the observer begins observing....

As for the dark matter/energy.... one could easily view these phenomenas as "pools of possibility & probability" essentially in wait to be called upon ..... Researchers as discovery continues are concluding that much of what we believe is reality is actually illusion.... just exactly what did Einstein calculate, i.e. "speed of light" (186,400 mps)? Is the equation erroneously attributed to the speed of light, or if this is an illusion wouldnt that speed limit actually be the redraw & refresh rate of this matrix itself as seen by an observer?

Why would light have a speed in the absence of an observer? Further why would light possess a "constant speed" with some many various forces of motion that theoretically would exert various energies upon the light particles hence creating a variety of speeds and gyrations in the particle itself as it travels and traverses its path??? Physics however informs us that light travels at a constant speed.... but it doesnt inform us why light, its speed and its path are not subject to the extreme natural forces it encounters.

Is light the illusion...... ???
Speed of light is not constant. It travels at different speed depending on the medium. It has a constant speed in vacuum though. This is basic physics, and it is the reason why a lens can bend the light. Gravity bends light so obviously it also changes the speed of light...

[mick silver]

just why is the moon light up on the side we see from earth and not the back side that faces the sun ? oh by the way I have a high tech flash light I will bet you that light does travel if it didn't then I could not blind you with it

[singular_me]

in the 3rd paragraph, BB is more questioning than stating. Also inquires about Light being an illusion.



Speed of light is not constant. It travels at different speed depending on the medium. It has a constant speed in vacuum though. This is basic physics, and it is the reason why a lens can bend the light. Gravity bends light so obviously it also changes the speed of light...

[Neuro]

in the 2nd paragraph, BB is more questioning than stating. Also inquires about Light being an illusion.
I think it is more likely you being an illusionist.

[mick silver]

it's only the matrix . you only see what you want to see didn't you know that neuro

[Neuro]

just why is the moon light up on the side we see from earth and not the back side that faces the sun ? oh by the way I have a high tech flash light I will bet you that light does travel if it didn't then I could not blind you with it
That is not my experience, the moon is always lit up on the side facing the sun, on earth it varies sometimes it is full moon sometimes it is new moon and it correlates to moons rotation around earth, and sun

[Neuro]

it's only the matrix . you only see what you want to see didn't you know that neuro
I was taught it, but I don't believe it really.

[mick silver]

I was waiting for someone to catch that ... good catch neuro ... I win a silver round ... just why is the moon light up on the side we see from earth and not the back side that faces the sun ?

[Neuro]

I was waiting for someone to catch that ... good catch neuro ... I win a silver round ... just why is the moon light up on the side we see from earth and not the back side that faces the sun ?
Ask Hypertiger to send me a silver round! ;D

[BarnkleBob]

Is the SoL constant?

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SpeedOfLight/speed_of_light.html

[Horn]

just why is the moon light up on the side we see from earth and not the back side that faces the sun ? oh by the way I have a high tech flash light I will bet you that light does travel if it didn't then I could not blind you with it

Doobie brothers could not rhyme a tune called Blinded by the Photons.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwbGjzF3mB0

[Horn]

My question is in Neuro's vacuum of space, where is the bag located?

Where r u sucking too?

[mick silver]

NEURO I was waiting for singular to tell me why , but dam you had to spill the beans on me

[singular_me]

exactly Mick...


it's only the matrix . you only see what you want to see didn't you know that neuro

[singular_me]

was expecting some hermetic explanation instead... the link is a long read, would you plz elaborate in 3 or 4 lines?



Is the SoL constant?

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SpeedOfLight/speed_of_light.html

[Neuro]

was expecting some hermetic explanation instead... the link is a long read, would you plz elaborate in 3 or 4 lines?
The speed of light isn't constant, it varies with medium, Gravity, acceleration and position of observer. Ether is pretty much disproven. And they put a line especially for you in that long read:

We must appeal to experiment to keep from straying into an abstract fairy world that has nothing to do with reality.

[Glass]

the speed of light and the force of gravity are inversely proportional from what I understand

[Horn]

The original statement was that light does not travel it reproduces, as a better definition.

If we were to travel faster than the rate as which it reproduces, we might Not even be able to freeze thread time then go back to redefine the argument with runon sentences, possibly revolving Neuro and others away from their weak and Newtonian gravity slip arguments.

Mr. Walter Russel should then be vindicated in future history.

Einstein was more a crackpot than 7th, or singular.

lol

[Neuro]

Einstein was more a crackpot than 7th, or singular.

I agree, but no match for Hypertihihiger!

[Horn]

I agree, but no match for Hypertihihiger!

What happens when complaints fall on deaf ears?

Not much :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix62PttEfhU

[Horn]

This thread has taken the path of a degrading orbit, as many others are forced to by those schooled in Newtonian only physics..

[singular_me]

I listened to both videos this morning... the electric theory is really about what is going on "inside the atoms" and their interconnectedness based on that, behaving as if they are aware of each other. The sun knows where earth is, electrically speaking . I agree that mainstream physics is another agenda and that a major academic crisis is inevitable .

Einstein has already a foot past the doorway and Newton's day are numbered.

I recommend the vids. No PhD needed to understand what is said.



This thread has taken the path of a degrading orbit, as many others are forced to by those schooled in Newtonian only physics..

[singular_me]

thanks for the outline, neuro
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I think the guy in the vid does a decent job explaining that light doesnt travel (sure, he read walter russell)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4-wcyeS39s



The speed of light isn't constant, it varies with medium, Gravity, acceleration and position of observer. Ether is pretty much disproven. And they put a line especially for you in that long read:

[Horn]

Einstein has already a foot past the doorway and Newton's day are numbered.

The inverse is the case, Newton had his foot thru the door,

Einstein and others chopped it off, then made a hatrack out of it.

[Horn]

http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2005/images05/050425sirius.jpg

Getting Serious about Sirius



The bright star Sirius and its smaller companion may have a lesson to teach mainstream astronomers, who have yet to learn of electricity’s power in the cosmos.




From Earth, as seen by human eyes, the star Sirius is the brightest star in the sky. This is partly because it is brighter than the average star, but also because it is one of the closest stars to Earth. Sirius also has a partner, called Sirius B, a tiny white dwarf. To our eyes, it is 10,000 times fainter than the primary star, Sirius A. The companion was discovered in the mid-nineteenth century by the wobble it caused in Sirius A’s path across the sky. It wasn’t actually seen until decades later, when newer and better telescopes were invented.



The Chandra orbiting telescope observes x-ray light, which is invisible to the human eye. When astronomers pointed Chandra at Sirius, they were surprised. In the Chandra image above, the primary star, Sirius A, is the smaller of the two lights. Sirius B, the tiny white dwarf, is the larger. This means that if we had Superman’s x-ray vision, we would see the reverse of what we see with human eyes.



Why is Sirius B so bright in x-ray light? Astronomers explain the anomaly in terms of gravity. Particles from Sirius A fall onto Sirius B so fast that the collisions create the x-rays. The Electric Universe provides a different explanation. X-rays are not caused by “falling” particles. Charged particles don’t care about gravity! And nature abhors inefficiency. Just as your dentist uses electric currents, not gravity, to generate x-rays, so do electrically driven stars.

There’s another problem with binary (double) stars. Why are there so many of them? Stars are so far apart that even if galaxies collide, the stars will mostly slip past each other unnoticed. Yet in our stellar neighborhood, about half of the stars come in twos. Electrically speaking, there are at least two possible explanations. The first is that the currents of space (and the plasma lab) tend to run in braided pairs. Where these braided currents become pinched by their own magnetic field, a star will be formed in each of the two braided currents.



Don Scott, a retired professor of electrical engineering and an amateur astronomer, has suggested a second method for the formation of double stars. Scott was studying the Hertzsprung-Russell diagram (HR diagram) that astronomers use to classify stars. The diagram plots the luminosities of stars against their temperatures (or colors—blue stars are hotter and red stars are cooler than our sun, which is a yellow star). Scott found that he could also substitute electric charge for temperature on the same chart (the higher the electric charge, the bluer and hotter the star). He suggests that when the charge gets so high that the surface of the star can no longer resist the electrical stress, the star will split into two stars in order to distribute the stress over a larger surface.



The possibility of electrical "splitting or parturition" of cosmic bodies was first proposed by Eric Crew of the UK in 1977 and elaborated further in 1985. Crew was a student of a pioneer of the electrical view of the cosmos—the electrical engineer and Fellow of the Royal Astronomical Society—Dr. Charles Bruce. The generation of internal electrical stress inside stars gained further elucidation by Wallace Thornhill.



This hypothesis would also explain why stars that have suffered the greatest electrical stresses—the novas and supernovas—are almost always found to be double, or even multiple, stars. Though astronomers acknowledge the pattern, they have not explained it. But if stars are formed and continually fed by electric currents, then what we have learned from the laboratory study of plasma and electric discharge should be our first reference in seeking to understand possible analogs in space.



The dynamics of electrical ejection can also be applied closer to home. Wallace Thornhill was able to accurately predict what would be found beneath the clouds of Saturn's moon,Titan (http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2005/arch05/050125titan-rilles.htm). He did this by working with the hypothesis that Titan and other identifiable bodies in the solar system had been ejected at intervals in the past by the gas giant.



http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2007/arch07/070621sirius.htm

[Glass]

Presentation by Don Scott - Birkeland Currents


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yIFR67sckK0


Don Scott, author of Electric Sky, made two major presentations at the EU Workshop, Nov 14-16, 2014 in Phoenix, Arizona. The first detailed how “polar configurations” are formed in space. Lacking familiarity with electrical phenomena in plasma, astronomers typically list these Herbig-Haro objects as “poorly understood.” Don’s second talk will illustrate the relationship between Birkeland Currents and counter-rotating shells, to show how they form such polar phenomena as Earth’s cylindrical auroral sheets and Saturn’s north polar “hurricane

[Horn]

Presentation by Don Scott - Birkeland Currents

Huh, he gets into the readings that were sited and surmised by our infamous "The Principle" movie above there at the end @45 mins. in.

Good stuff.

[Horn]

More on comets


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jjgHIzv-nA#t=472

[Horn]

this guy whoever he is, is excellent at about 17mins. in Game of Names


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE09IwQUV2k

[singular_me]

and this was said, almost 100 years ago.

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This is an ELECTRIC universe of motion, not a Newtonian gravitational universe.

There is no forces of magnetism or gravity in Nature.
Magnetism and gravity seem to exist ! They are effects, whose cause is electricity.
There is only one type of electricity.
Electric current does not flow in wire, motion is expressed in loops around the wire - skin effect.

http://www.walter-russell.com/documents/electricity__magnetism.html

[Glass]

this is very important, it is around the conductor not inside it.

[singular_me]

I particularly was stunned by the "red dwarf mega flare giving birth to a planet" explanation at the end




More on comets


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jjgHIzv-nA#t=472

[Neuro]

and this was said, almost 100 years ago.

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This is an ELECTRIC universe of motion, not a Newtonian gravitational universe.

There is no forces of magnetism or gravity in Nature.
Magnetism and gravity seem to exist ! They are effects, whose cause is electricity.
There is only one type of electricity.
Electric current does not flow in wire, motion is expressed in loops around the wire - skin effect.

http://www.walter-russell.com/documents/electricity__magnetism.html
Nassim Haramein, seemed to say it was a gravity black hole creating the strong nuclear force within elementary particles holding the positively charged nucleus together. It seems strange how you can promote him at the same time as you are saying he is totally wrong re gravity... A bit of doublethink Singular?

BTW I am not dissing the electrical universe theories completely. I think it has a lot of validity in how the universe is shaped, but I wouldn't throw gravity out with the bathwater...

[singular_me]

skipped to that segment... wowowww... so it clearly means that current mainstream theories MUST be flushed down the toilet. it is obvious that gravitation doesnt apply galaxies.

Thanks to the NWO to have led astrophysics into this impasse.


this guy whoever he is, is excellent at about 17mins. in Game of Names


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE09IwQUV2k

[singular_me]

not really because I regard black holes as singularity-vortex electric holes and Nassim has expounded upon it pretty much in his theory (in many other vids of his) as he says that every cell contains a dot-singularity. So I know where he is coming from. My guess is that he is using the term of black holes so people get it better.

it is correct to use the term gravity as a consequence, not a prime cause.

nassim and electric universe theories complete one another. And I am sure that nassim would never dismiss it



Nassim Haramein, seemed to say it was a gravity black hole creating the strong nuclear force within elementary particles holding the positively charged nucleus together. It seems strange how you can promote him at the same time as you are saying he is totally wrong re gravity... A bit of doublethink Singular?

BTW I am not dissing the electrical universe theories completely. I think it has a lot of validity in how the universe is shaped, but I wouldn't throw gravity out with the bathwater...

[Neuro]

not really because I regard black holes as singularity-vortex electric holes and Nassim has expounded upon it pretty much in his theory (in many other vids of his) as he says that every cell comtains a dot-singularity. So I know where he is coming from. My guess is that he is using the term of black holes so people get it better.

it is correct to use the term gravity as a consequence, not a prime cause.

nassim and electric universe theories complete one another. And I am sure that nassim would never dismiss it
If that is the case Nassim contradicts himself, as in the video you promoted in the other thread, he clearly linked the gravity created black hole of the proton, with the mass required to create the sufficient force to hold the nucleus together as positively charged protons would repell each other. All that math was for nothing then as gravity as an effect of mass doesn't exist...

[singular_me]

I see what you mean and will have to look into his possible contradiction, but listen to his take on singularity vortex-double torus holes.

the hole exists before the galaxy takes shape around it

there may be there is a semantic issue here at stake. Or is it just me distorting/extrapolating haramein and trying to applying his words to the electric universe theory. ]

edit: the torus is clearly an electromagnetic phenomenon


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyqBnd3Xwck


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EYkitvy1OQ

[Horn]

Thornhill described the discipline best. Gravity is a study of ash, electric the fire. Its not to say ash is of no significance, but to place the proper amount of significance where it clearly belongs, on the fire.

[Horn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktFFUJaFSL8