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mick silver
6th January 2015, 10:34 AM
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Police fatally shot (http://www.al.com/news/montgomery/index.ssf/2014/12/man_shot_by_dothan_police_offi.html) an Alabama “sovereign citizen” Tuesday during an altercation at an animal shelter.
Investigators said 30-year-old Robert Earl Lawrence became disorderly as he attempted to turn over a stray animal about 12:30 p.m. to the Dothan City Animal Shelter when an employee told him he could not leave without showing identification.
He instead showed paperwork that identified him as a sovereign citizen and, therefore, not bound by federal, state, or local laws.

Employees called police, who attempted to arrest Lawrence after they said he refused to calm down.
Police said Lawrence struggled with the arresting officer, who then shot him in the abdomen.
Lawrence died about 9:50 p.m., authorities said.
Prosecutors said Lawrence had obvious anger issues and often expressed anti-government views.
He pleaded guilty earlier this year (http://www.dothaneagle.com/news/crime_court/man-killed-by-dothan-cop-had-violent-past/article_e1e8fc40-913a-11e4-b124-53824fdb6675.html) to making harassing communications in connection with threats he made in January 2013 to the State Department of Human Resources, and he served 90 days in jail in that case.
Investigators said he had been angry with the department in connection with a child custody dispute.
Lawrence threatened to take a child hostage like Jimmy Lee Dykes, who snatched a 5-year-old child earlier this year and held him for a week (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/02/alabama-kidnapper-killed-and-child-rescued-report/) in an underground bunker.
He also made references to the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting, investigators said.
Two women filed protection orders against Lawrence this year after he allegedly choked one and threatened another.
Court documents listed a variety of addresses for Lawrence, including one in Florida and two on the same road in Dothan.
The shooting investigation has been turned over to the State Bureau of Investigations.

crimethink
6th January 2015, 01:49 PM
Without trying to "justify" the killing in the least, I have to say this guy was a complete dumb-ass.

Stray animal? Give it to a privately-run shelter if you hate the government.

"You can't leave without showing ID!"? You simply walk out, get in your car, and leave! Don't give them some worthless piece of paper and wait around while the armed enforcers come.

Serpo
6th January 2015, 01:53 PM
It kinda helps to have some form of intelligence as well.

Still he was shot to death for nothing

SWRichmond
6th January 2015, 01:54 PM
Know what In noticed right away? The entire article is about portraying the dead man as having deserved it.

palani
6th January 2015, 02:00 PM
They show the guys middle name. Everyone knows (since Mel Gibsons' movie on Conspiracy Theory) that assassins always come with a middle name.

And what's this with turning over a stray animal?

Why do you turn over a stray animal?

To see the other side of course.

old steel
6th January 2015, 02:03 PM
The MSM are all part of the supporting arm of the fascist police state.

mick silver
6th January 2015, 02:04 PM
you keep seeing this when it comes to a white don't you ...“sovereign citizen”

SWRichmond
6th January 2015, 02:17 PM
SPLC is in Alabama

hoarder
6th January 2015, 05:18 PM
Know what In noticed right away? The entire article is about portraying the dead man as having deserved it.

Which is why I will not make comments about how stupid he allegedly was.

crimethink
6th January 2015, 05:24 PM
Which is why I will not make comments about how stupid he allegedly was.

Who sticks around when an "authority" figure demands something you do not wish to comply with and you can still leave without violence? Yes, that is stupid.

"We need to see your ID!" Uh, no, you don't. And especially not a homemade one.

hoarder
6th January 2015, 05:28 PM
Who sticks around when an "authority" figure demands something you do not wish to comply with and you can still leave without violence? Yes, that is stupid.

"We need to see your ID!" Uh, no, you don't. And especially not a homemade one.Who believes what they read in an article, especially when the article is obviously slanted in favor of "authorities"?

crimethink
6th January 2015, 05:39 PM
Who believes what they read in an article, especially when the article is obviously slanted in favor of "authorities"?

Look up his history long before his fatality. He is no honorable man.

I've had one of these types try their shit on me, so the allegation is credible until proven otherwise. If he didn't wait around as alleged, how is it he was able to be shot dead?

Not everything is a conspiracy.

Hitch
6th January 2015, 05:41 PM
Well, hopefully we didn't lose a forum member. Where is iOWNme? He's known to get inspired to the point of being heated in discussions.

govcheetos
6th January 2015, 05:46 PM
False flag Propaganda

Glass
6th January 2015, 06:02 PM
something odd there. Maybe it was a case of "Stop Resisting" while being punched in the head or something. Does seem like the guy was going for a confrontation. I would have walked but I guess the tattle tale would give the po po the vehicle plate number. I would hope he had no plates if he was going sovereign freeman. No such thing as sovereign citizen.

midnight rambler
6th January 2015, 06:37 PM
Still he was shot to death for nothing

No, he was killed because he refused to worship the beast system.

crimethink
6th January 2015, 06:43 PM
something odd there. Maybe it was a case of "Stop Resisting" while being punched in the head or something. Does seem like the guy was going for a confrontation. I would have walked but I guess the tattle tale would give the po po the vehicle plate number. I would hope he had no plates if he was going sovereign freeman. No such thing as sovereign citizen.

You always leave when there is no reason to stay and trouble is brewing. So what if they took his plate number and/or vehicle description? Never open the door to the cops. Most likely he'd be alive had he simply left.

crimethink
6th January 2015, 06:49 PM
False flag Propaganda

Or, he really was a loon. Like I said, not everything is a conspiracy.

I had a so-called "freeman" try some UCC shit on me, and I had to make it clear to him that his well-being was in jeopardy if he continued. He stopped promptly. He was completely in the wrong, but thought I'd buckle in fear of liens and petitions filed against me.

BrewTech
6th January 2015, 07:07 PM
False flag PropagandaConsidering the use of the oxymoronic "sovereign citizen" description, there is merit in your claim.

madfranks
6th January 2015, 08:25 PM
Prosecutors said Lawrence had obvious anger issues and often expressed anti-government views.

So that makes it ok to kill him then?

steyr_m
6th January 2015, 11:10 PM
Without trying to "justify" the killing in the least, I have to say this guy was a complete dumb-ass.

Stray animal? Give it to a privately-run shelter if you hate the government.

"You can't leave without showing ID!"? You simply walk out, get in your car, and leave! Don't give them some worthless piece of paper and wait around while the armed enforcers come.

Agreed. I know sometimes people want to make a point -- and I get it; but being an ass doesn't help any cause.

mick silver
7th January 2015, 06:31 AM
what happen to being free to do what one wants to do ...being a ass is not a reason to be killed

midnight rambler
7th January 2015, 11:32 AM
what happen to being free to do what one wants to do ... ass are not is no reason to be killed

It is when one rejects our (Death Cult) belief system. We find that offensive and death is the punishment for offenders.