Rick Delano "The Principle" on George Noory's Coast to Coast

[JohnQPublic]

Copernicus, Science, & Religion (http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2015/01/07)

Date:
01-07-15


Host:
George Noory


Guests:
Rick DeLano (http://www.coasttocoastam.com/guest/delano-rick/70827)


Career-long insider of the entertainment industry, independent scholar and intellectual outlier Rick DeLano (http://www.theprinciplemovie.com/) will discuss his work researching theories of astronomy, Copernicus and the political and religious fallout resulting from changes in scientific discoveries. He'll review recent scientific discoveries which can't disprove that Earth may be the center of the universe, and recap the power struggles over the last several hundred years between the church and science over who controls the narrative of the creation saga.

Website(s):

theprinciplemovie.com (http://www.theprinciplemovie.com/)



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[madfranks]

Thanks for the heads up, and I will be listening to that show. Hey, in the meantime, can you take down the youtube trailer from the top of the page? I think we're all tired of it by now.

[JohnQPublic]

I would like to keep it up until the theatrical release gets going. Burbank, Orange County California, and Spokane Washington January 23rd. We'll see how things progress after that.

[JohnQPublic]

Thanks for the heads up, and I will be listening to that show. Hey, in the meantime, can you take down the youtube trailer from the top of the page? I think we're all tired of it by now.

Did you catch it? Thoughts?

[mick silver]

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[General of Darkness]

Dang I missed it. Is there a recording of it?

[Shami-Amourae]

Dang I missed it. Is there a recording of it?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBO93o5vaAQ

If you didn't know you can convert YouTube videos to MP3. Just plug-in the YouTube link into this website:
http://www.listentoyoutube.com/


People are always posting Coast to Coast episodes on YouTube. You can also find basically any music you can think of on YouTube and convert it to MP3.

[osoab]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBO93o5vaAQ

If you didn't know you can convert YouTube videos to MP3. Just plug-in the YouTube link into this website:
http://www.listentoyoutube.com/


People are always posting Coast to Coast episodes on YouTube. You can also find basically any music you can think of on YouTube and convert it to MP3.

start at 39:00 in for the interview

[Jerrylynnb]

Mr. Delano starts out by saying that physics doesn't allow for anyone to know whether the sun goes around the earth, or the earth goes around the sun. He pretends to be smart when he is just an idiot trying to be entertaining by tossing out the bizarre, the way chimps toss shit turds at you. I quit after that - got better things to do than listen to ideas that went out centuries ago. Be alerted - this is a waste of time. Also, just prior to Delano, Noory had that jew-lover Corsi on and they bad-mouthed any and all things not jew-friendly. Complete waste of time- worse, it is infuriating that these simpleton lackeys have so much air time when we got folks right here on this forum that could probably provide good, valuable talk.

[JohnQPublic]

Mr. Delano starts out by saying that physics doesn't allow for anyone to know whether the sun goes around the earth, or the earth goes around the sun. He pretends to be smart when he is just an idiot trying to be entertaining by tossing out the bizarre, the way chimps toss shit turds at you. I quit after that - got better things to do than listen to ideas that went out centuries ago. Be alerted - this is a waste of time. Also, just prior to Delano, Noory had that jew-lover Corsi on and they bad-mouthed any and all things not jew-friendly. Complete waste of time- worse, it is infuriating that these simpleton lackeys have so much air time when we got folks right here on this forum that could probably provide good, valuable talk.

"Mr. Delano starts out by saying that physics doesn't allow for anyone to know whether the sun goes around the earth, or the earth goes around the sun"

Sorry Jerrylynn, but that is Einstein, and it is the currently accepted theory. Kind of tripped on the start of that rant didn't you?

[crimethink]

Mr. Delano starts out by saying that physics doesn't allow for anyone to know whether the sun goes around the earth, or the earth goes around the sun. He pretends to be smart when he is just an idiot trying to be entertaining by tossing out the bizarre, the way chimps toss shit turds at you. I quit after that - got better things to do than listen to ideas that went out centuries ago.

Thank you for your endorsement! I downloaded it last night, and will aim to listen tonight.

[vacuum]

It's not just Einstein, the evidence for relativity nearly as old as physics itself.

Galileo did experiments to establish relativity. Newtonian mechanics implicitly supports relativity within it's mathematics. Einstein simply took relativity and reconciled it with a fixed speed of light.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_relativity

[JohnQPublic]

It's not just Einstein, the evidence for relativity nearly as old as physics itself.

Galileo did experiments to establish relativity. Newtonian mechanics implicitly supports relativity within it's mathematics. Einstein simply took relativity and reconciled it with a fixed speed of light.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_relativity

Agreed. In modern form it starts with Leibniz and Bishop Berkley, then goes on to Mach, Lorentz, Einstein, etc. But the modern accepted form is largely Einstein.

[singular_me]

seems like... planets indeed rotate around the sun

http://d1jqu7g1y74ds1.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/tumblr_mj0vvcqnZx1qdlh1io1_400.gif

[Jerrylynnb]

Ok, Mr. Einstein, my engine crank is stationary with the whole car is rotating around it, all the while the wheels are stationary and the car somehow mutates three-way so as to flip-end-over-end around the front tires AND back tires simultaneously, all the while still rotating around the stationary crankshaft. Oh, OOOH, NOW I see it! How could I have been such a dunce not to have seen these immutable principles before that genius of all the universe (the stationary one), Einstein, 'splained it to me.

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Olinto de Pretto (1857-1921) - a true genius, European breed:

"De Pretto used the expression mv^2 for the "vis viva" and the energy store within matter, where he identified v with the speed of light."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olinto_De_Pretto

Einstein was working at the patent office when Pretto's paper was published. Figure it out.
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[JohnQPublic]

Ok, Mr. Einstein, my engine crank is stationary with the whole car is rotating around it, all the while the wheels are stationary and the car somehow mutates three-way so as to flip-end-over-end around the front tires AND back tires simultaneously, all the while still rotating around the stationary crankshaft. Oh, OOOH, NOW I see it! How could I have been such a dunce not to have seen these immutable principles before that genius of all the universe (the stationary one), Einstein, 'splained it to me.

________________________

Olinto de Pretto (1857-1921) - a true genius, European breed:

"De Pretto used the expression mv^2 for the "vis viva" and the energy store within matter, where he identified v with the speed of light."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olinto_De_Pretto

Einstein was working at the patent office when Pretto's paper was published. Figure it out.
________________________
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I don't think it works quite that way. typically you pick a point as a reference. In space there is supposedly no absolute reference, so you should be able to pick any point.

[singular_me]

that is what I told you weeks ago, there is no center. Or everything is. Both are valuable points of view, so any theory taking side cannot be absolutely correct..


I don't think it works quite that way. typically you pick a point as a reference. In space there is supposedly no absolute reference, so you should be able to pick any point.

I dont know why people are so infatuated with einstein... a plagiarist for the most part. I guess it is a nobel prize side effect.

[EE_]

that is what I told you weeks ago, there is no center. Or everything is. Both are valuable points of view, so any theory taking side cannot be absolutely correct..

I dont know why people are so infatuated with einstein... a plagiarist for the most part. I guess it is a nobel prize side effect.

Maybe because we were programmed in school to view Einstein as making the greatest contributions to the world?

Einstein, Zionism and Israel:
Setting the Record Straight
http://www.globalwebpost.com/farooqm/writings/other/einstein.htm

"That Einstein was a Zionist, plain and simple, is a myth perpetuated by the pro-Israel media. Their motive behind an unqualified portrayal of Einstein as Zionist and pro-Israel--to distort public perception of him, is understandable. The tactics and methods of such distortion of reality in regard to Israel, and its allies or adversaries, are quite well-known. Since Einstein was undeniably one of the most towering figures of the 20th century's scientific community, his endorsement for political Zionism and Israel is an enormous political capital to pass up. But more importantly, if he was not portrayed as a pro-Israel Zionist, people most likely would be curious about his real views. Such curiosity and follow-up knowledge--could incur significant liability against political Zionism and Israel. To prevent this, exploitation of the mighty Zionist media seemed most convenient, to propagate ad nauseam what is contrary to the truth, create a MYTH about the connection between Einstein and Zionism (political, to be specific) and suppress all information contrary to that which is put out by that media. It's a fortress almost impossible to break through."

[crimethink]

I dont know why people are so infatuated with einstein... a plagiarist for the most part. I guess it is a nobel prize side effect.

It's the Kosher Effect. Planck & Heisenberg both earned Nobel Prizes, but are unknown to the poop culture aficionados who think Einstein was the "most brilliant man."

[crimethink]

Maybe because we were programmed in school to view Einstein as making the greatest contributions to the world?

Einstein, Zionism and Israel:
Setting the Record Straight
http://www.globalwebpost.com/farooqm/writings/other/einstein.htm

"That Einstein was a Zionist, plain and simple, is a myth perpetuated by the pro-Israel media. Their motive behind an unqualified portrayal of Einstein as Zionist and pro-Israel--to distort public perception of him, is understandable. The tactics and methods of such distortion of reality in regard to Israel, and its allies or adversaries, are quite well-known. Since Einstein was undeniably one of the most towering figures of the 20th century's scientific community, his endorsement for political Zionism and Israel is an enormous political capital to pass up. But more importantly, if he was not portrayed as a pro-Israel Zionist, people most likely would be curious about his real views. Such curiosity and follow-up knowledge--could incur significant liability against political Zionism and Israel. To prevent this, exploitation of the mighty Zionist media seemed most convenient, to propagate ad nauseam what is contrary to the truth, create a MYTH about the connection between Einstein and Zionism (political, to be specific) and suppress all information contrary to that which is put out by that media. It's a fortress almost impossible to break through."

Einstein was at least a Pinko, if not an outright Marxist. Of course, Marxism is a competing form of Judaism to Zionism.

[Jerrylynnb]

The solution for two orbiting bodies doesn't involve relativity, since the speeds are insignificant relative to the speed of light. High school physics tells us to find the center of mass of the two bodies, and that is the center around which both bodies orbit. Between the sun and the earth, this center of mass is effectively so close to the center of the sun itself as to not be worth trying to compute it. Anyone who truly doubts whether or not the earth orbits the sun has been watching too much star trek, or listening to too much coast-to-coast cosmic radio (I confess I used to do that a lot when I first retired - lazy days).

The thing about Einstein's original relativity paper that bothered other physicists at the time was that he gave NO REFERENCES to prior papers that had earlier first introduced some of his "new" (so-called) concepts, such as E=MC2, by Pretto. Typical jewish arrogance - no non-jew can be recognized as having any worthwhile ideas, and so international jewish media pounced upon Einstein (one of their own) as being the originator of other non-jew physicist's work. The international jewish media made Einstein a pop-culture star. It worked.

A good read partly covering this is:

The Making of the Atomic Bomb, Richard Rhoades, 1987

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Making_of_the_Atomic_Bomb

Peace.

[optionT]

Does anyone have a new youtube link to the coast to coast show because it was taken down?

[madfranks]

Did you catch it? Thoughts?

Just finally got around to listening to it. I think he made a good point about the fabrication of dark matter out of thin air to make the gravitational calculations work on a galactic scale (I don't agree with his conclusion that this makes gravity wrong, but I think it's a good point). I also think he made a good point that in today's scientific culture, it is proudly proclaimed that science has an open mind to anything as long as that's where the evidence goes, but in reality if you deviate outside of the status quo, you are ruthlessly attacked.

Overall a good interview and worth it to listen to.

[JohnQPublic]

[QUOTE=madfranks;753013... I think he made a good point about the fabrication of dark matter out of thin air to make the gravitational calculations work on a galactic scale (I don't agree with his conclusion that this makes gravity wrong, but I think it's a good point)...[/QUOTE]

I think the conclusion is that unless dark matter exists, or some other new force/mechanism is accounted for, gravity is not accurate at the galactic scale and above, at least not in its simple Newtonian form. There are MOND theories (MOdified Newtonian Dynamics) out there that attempt to modify the law of gravity to work from the terrestrial level and beyond. Aether theories could potentially also explain galactic structure (and may not require a universal gravitation depending on how it is formulated).

Any case, glad you liked the interview.

[madfranks]

I think the conclusion is that unless dark matter exists, or some other new force/mechanism is accounted for, gravity is not accurate at the galactic scale and above, at least not in its simple Newtonian form. There are MOND theories (MOdified Newtonian Dynamics) out there that attempt to modify the law of gravity to work from the terrestrial level and beyond. Aether theories could potentially also explain galactic structure (and may not require a universal gravitation depending on how it is formulated).

Any case, glad you liked the interview.

How about that gravity works just like we currently understand, however the galaxies haven't spiraled/fizzled out because the universe isn't billions of years old, rather a young universe where there just hasn't been enough time for galaxies to fizzle away? This makes more sense to me than postulating that 97% of the universe must be "dark matter" which holds galaxies in place.