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singular_me
7th January 2015, 03:58 PM
Got your obamacare insurance ;D ???
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Bankrupt government slashing payments to doctors by 43%; medicare patients to be rejected nationwide
Wednesday, January 07, 2015

If you recall, the entire purpose behind Obamacare, according to the president and the law's backers, was only to insure something like 14 or 15 million people, because at the time the measure was being debated, the vast majority of Americans -- well over 80 percent -- had health insurance. What's more, the bulk of those insured had private sector plans, and most were insured through employers; the number of Americans on taxpayer-subsidized coverage, like Medicaid, was minimal.

Obamacare is beginning to change that dynamic, however, as noted by the administration's new enrollment figures released a couple of weeks ago: According to CNN/Money, some 8.7 million more Americans are now enrolled in Medicaid as of August than were a year earlier. And Medicaid expansion is at the heart of the Affordable Care Act (though you would think, in a free-market economy, the goal of any health insurance reform effort would be to put more people into private-sector plans, not hook them on a taxpayer-subsidized plan).

There is no doubt that, because of the Affordable Care Act, more Americans are actually covered under health insurance. The bad news, however, is that the insurance "coverage" is going to be little more than coverage in name only.

Pseudo-coverage

As reported by The New York Times:

Just as millions of people are gaining insurance through Medicaid, the program is poised to make deep cuts in payments to many doctors, prompting some physicians and consumer advocates to warn that the reductions could make it more difficult for Medicaid patients to obtain care.

This is how the law was designed to "save money" -- by placing more Americans on a taxpayer-supported program, then cutting payments to the very doctors who were expected to see and treat the newly covered.

The Times continued:

The Affordable Care Act provided a big increase in Medicaid payments for primary care in 2013 and 2014. But the increase expires on Thursday -- just weeks after the Obama administration told the Supreme Court that doctors and other providers had no legal right to challenge the adequacy of payments they received from Medicaid.



Doomed to fail

Well, doctors are having none of it. Their solution will be to simply stop seeing Medicaid patients, because the administration's wielding of the Obamacare law is leaving them little financial choice.

According to a study by the Urban Institute, the Times reported, the cuts to doctors will vary by state, but the average cut will be around 43 percent. So, more Americans are being covered by a tax-supported entitlement that is cutting payments to providers by nearly half; that will result in fewer providers seeing Medicaid patients.............
Doctors' groups, meanwhile, are already warning that access to care will suffer for patients on federally subsidized health coverage plans.

Dr. David A. Fleming, president of the American College of Physicians, which represents internal medicine specialists, told the Times some patients would have less access to care after the cuts. As such, it would make no sense to reduce Medicaid payments "at a time when the population enrolled in Medicaid is surging," he said.

But the problem is that taxpayers are on the hook for the extended coverage, and at a time when the federal budget deficit is more than $18 trillion -- with unfunded liabilities (like Obamacare) raising that amount to more than $120 trillion -- it is obvious that the program is not sustainable.............


Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/048214_Obamacare_Medicaid_payments_health_care_rat ioning.html#ixzz3OBAGHKx7

crimethink
7th January 2015, 04:09 PM
Trillions for war and foreign aid is "no problem."

This is lootocracy SOP.

mick silver
8th January 2015, 05:41 AM
I started a thread about the gov cutting food stamps for over a million coming this year , and yet we have paper burning a hole in are pocket for more bombs . early in life I learned nothing is free

Publico
8th January 2015, 08:53 AM
Trillions for war and foreign aid is "no problem."

This is lootocracy SOP.

The last official act of a government is to loot the nation.

mick silver
8th January 2015, 08:58 AM
you mean there's something left to loot

gunDriller
8th January 2015, 09:09 AM
early in life I learned nothing is free

you must be a Gentile.

mick silver
8th January 2015, 09:11 AM
http://www.meisjevandeslijterij.nl/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Racist-Dog-Granny-Cartoon.jpeg

Ponce
8th January 2015, 09:37 AM
The government should pay the way for students to go to medical schools with the condition that the will work for the government for seven years after graduating.....their payments would be minimal.

V

Sparky
8th January 2015, 10:40 AM
The government should pay the way for students to go to medical schools with the condition that the will work for the government for seven years after graduating.....their payments would be minimal.

V
Unfortunately it's just the opposite. My son is in medical school, and he must borrow from the government at a 7% interest rate.

Publico
8th January 2015, 11:05 AM
The government should pay the way for students to go to medical schools with the condition that the will work for the government for seven years after graduating.....their payments would be minimal.

V

Why only get 7 years out of them? With a student loan debt the bankers get 20 to 30 years of payments.

monty
8th January 2015, 11:52 AM
The government should pay the way for students to go to medical schools with the condition that the will work for the government for seven years after graduating.....their payments would be minimal. V

My daughter is in Her 40's and still paying on her student loans

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Ponce
8th January 2015, 12:00 PM
Monty, and that's why I say that the government should pay for medical studies, this would benefit both, the government and the people ......it would probably be equal to the payments of one soldier to kill people..........what is happening now is the killing of America.

V

Neuro
8th January 2015, 12:47 PM
The government should pay the way for students to go to medical schools with the condition that the will work for the government for seven years after graduating.....their payments would be minimal.

V
In Sweden most Dr's work for the government their entire career, and they still have to pay back to the government the student loans they got, with interest. But university education doesn't cost anything, they get student loans so they can survive while studying.

midnight rambler
8th January 2015, 12:49 PM
Why only get 7 years out of them? With a student loan debt the bankers get 20 to 30 years of payments.

It's a no-brainer to see the superior business model.

crimethink
8th January 2015, 03:19 PM
The last official act of a government is to loot the nation.

This is actually corporate looting. Of course, the current "government" is a purchased product of the corporatists.

We're seeing the same thing that happened in Russia happening here.

Serpo
8th January 2015, 03:29 PM
The Medical System is a FAILED STATE...........

Twisted Titan
8th January 2015, 04:21 PM
The government should pay the way for students to go to medical schools with the condition that the will work for the government for seven years after graduating.....their payments would be minimal.

V

Absolute Hogwash

Cuba is a failed medical state as soon as someone becomes a Doctor they GTFO of the there because the pay is piss poor. I think 30 a month IIRC . Their number one export is doctors but they can keep none domestically .

Sounds like a fricken plan for success.

crimethink
8th January 2015, 05:14 PM
The Medical System is a FAILED STATE...........

Medicine + profit motive = death

crimethink
8th January 2015, 05:17 PM
Cuba is a failed medical state as soon as someone becomes a Doctor they GTFO of the there because the pay is piss poor. I think 30 a month IIRC . Their number one export is doctors but they can keep none domestically .

Absolute horseshit. Listening to Fox "News" too much lately?

Cuba has the second highest number of medical doctors per person, second only to filthy rich Monaco. Valuable education was one of the things Cuba, with an American boot on its neck, could succeed with, so they trained medical doctors by the thousands.

No one is lacking for medical care in Cuba, save due to the American embargo on some medications & equipment.

http://kff.org/global-indicator/physicians/

Twisted Titan
9th January 2015, 03:22 PM
Absolute horseshit. Listening to Fox "News" too much lately?

Cuba has the second highest number of medical doctors per person, second only to filthy rich Monaco. Valuable education was one of the things Cuba, with an American boot on its neck, could succeed with, so they trained medical doctors by the thousands.

No one is lacking for medical care in Cuba, save due to the American embargo on some medications & equipment.

http://kff.org/global-indicator/physicians/


I see your Horse shit and will raise you two cow pies.

My statement dose not come from faux news but a cuban in exile. Whose mother died because the doctors refused to dispense a albuterol recuse inhaler because the quota was met for the month. They refered her to another medical center but there was no abulance to take her so her son and few friends pushed her in a wheelchair were she died in route.

The man fought back tears to tell me this


I dont doubt the stats you cite but they ring hollow for the man that relayed to me his experience with sociolized medicine



oul

Neuro
10th January 2015, 01:45 AM
I see your Horse shit and will raise you two cow pies.

My statement dose not come from faux news but a cuban in exile. Whose mother died because the doctors refused to dispense a albuterol recuse inhaler because the quota was met for the month. They refered her to another medical center but there was no abulance to take her so her son and few friends pushed her in a wheelchair were she died in route.

The man fought back tears to tell me this


I dont doubt the stats you cite but they ring hollow for the man that relayed to me his experience with sociolized medicine



oul
That is horrible, but it may actually come back to the American embargo.

crimethink
10th January 2015, 02:08 AM
My statement dose not come from faux news but a cuban in exile. Whose mother died because the doctors refused to dispense a albuterol recuse inhaler because the quota was met for the month. They refered her to another medical center but there was no abulance to take her so her son and few friends pushed her in a wheelchair were she died in route.

The man fought back tears to tell me this


I dont doubt the stats you cite but they ring hollow for the man that relayed to me his experience with sociolized medicine


Oh noes, "socialized medicine"! :rolleyes:

I call total bullshit on his claim. Typical "Cuban in exile" with an axe to grind. Castro did indeed unload all his mental cases on America. A good move on his part.

Do you have any clue how many cases of people getting sicker or even dying because of your "wonderful" capitalist profit-before-care "medicine" I know of personally? One case that was particularly egregious involved sending a mother with a newborn 60 miles with a map because they didn't want to bother with a Medi-Cal (Medicaid) baby. Instead of calling an ambulette (at least), the baby ended up DOA. Not an illegal, but an American woman.

You work in so-called "health care," do you not? Are you afraid your six-figure salary might go down if people actually start receiving the care all our premiums actually pay for?

crimethink
10th January 2015, 02:10 AM
That is horrible, but it may actually come back to the American embargo.

I imagine it might. The "report" probably morphed creative "facts" from reality; the "quota" was far more likely to be "we didn't get our shipment yet because the criminal regime in Washington won't allow us to get them from the US."