Watches. A different opinion.

[Hitch]

This rant/display of watch "theory" is hilarious. I highly suggest watching the whole video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApdnK9BCWNQ

[Shami-Amourae]

Watches made sense in the past but are stupid now. We have smart phones.

[Hitch]

Watches made sense in the past but are stupid now. We have smart phones.

To me, smart phones are a pain in the ass most of the time. I don't keep mine on me, and half the time it shows up missing. This morning it was in the refrigerator. If I keep it in my pocket, which I sometimes do, I risk damaging it because of work.

They just don't make things to last anymore. If you drop it, you break it and need another piece of shit from China.

[EE_]

Watches made sense in the past but are stupid now. We have smart phones.

I bet you will be wearing a watch within 2 years and you will wear it through most of your waking hours.

[palani]

And no matter which watch he has none of them are set on local time. All use railroad time (commercial time).

[Hitch]

I bet you will be wearing a watch within 2 years and you will wear it through most of your waking hours.

A mechanical watch as well. Don't get one that needs a battery.

[EE_]

A mechanical watch as well. Don't get one that needs a battery.

This is going to be huge and all the tech companies are racing to launch them.
Welcome to the mark of the beast. People will stand in line and they will beg for it!
The watch is about to make a huge come-back.

Apple Watch release date, news and features
UPDATED Fabled iWatch or iPhone Watch specs, price and apps
By Matt Swider January 7th COMMENTS
PAGE 1 OF 3Apple Watch specs, release date and price
http://www.techradar.com/us/news/portable-devices/apple-iwatch-release-date-news-and-rumours-1131043

http://data1.ibtimes.co.in/en/full/535803/apple-preparing-launch-its-watch-march-report.jpg

Update: Apple Watch is now rumored to have a March release date, which fits the spring 2015 launch commitment.

It's been a few months since Apple CEO Tim Cook's "one more thing" announcement was literally up his sleeve: a sapphire-coated smartwatch dubbed the Apple Watch, not the fabled iWatch.

This iPhone-compatible watch was unveiled alongside the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus, fulfilling the Cupertino company's "new product categories" promise for last year.

It's not a circular smartwatch like its fashionable rival, Moto 360, but it still features a premium rectangular design with rounded-off corners and works seamlessly with iOS 8 devices.

Hands on: Apple Watch review

Here's what we know.
Cut to the chase
What is it? An iOS 8-friendly watch that plays nice with your iPhone
When is it out? Spring 2015 release date, rumored to be March
What will it cost? Starts at $349 (likely north of £223, AU$403)
What does Apple Watch do?

Apple's first wearable gadget beams messages, Facebook updates and simplified apps to our wrists, eliminating the all-too-common need to take out our devices to constantly check notifications.

There are more than a dozen ways to interact with the watch, from receiving glanceable notifications, to feeling "taptic" feedback, to summoning Siri, according to the newly released developer WatchKit software.

It's going to become especially convenient to pocket the 4.7-inch iPhone 6 and even bigger 5.5-inch iPhone 6 Plus in your jeans, or to always stow the newly released 9.7-inch iPad Air 2 in a bag.

Is that phone call a telemarketer not worth your time or an emergency from a loved one? The Apple Watch makes mundane notifications easy to dismiss while keeping you in the loop on life's most important alerts.

A handful of the Apple Watch apps being demoed

Other apps seen in the Apple Watch video include iMessages, Health, Calendar, Weather, Mail, Photos, Camera's shutter button, Passbook that now includes Apple Pay and even Apple Maps for navigation.

Developers are now readying more Apple Watch apps thanks to the WatchKit SDK launch. They're being given a headstart with the software and it could bring a whole new section to the iTunes App Store.

The smartwatch also takes cues from the Nike FuelBand SE and other fitness trackers with health sensors and nutrition apps, a must for any serious wearable gadget these days.

Sure there are fitness apps on your smartphone, but you're not always carrying your iPhone while tracking your steps and activity. The Apple Watch is better suited for your everyday workout.
Design

The final Apple Watch design isn't too far from the made-up renders that we've seen in recent weeks. It draws inspiration from iPod Nano with a rectangular-shaped screen plus one knob and a single button.

The Apple Watch is more than iPod Nano meets the iPhone, though. The smartwatch display comes in two sizes measured by height: 38mm (1.5in) and 42mm (1.65in). Both are slightly smaller than the entire Pebble Steel watch height, which measures 46mm (1.8in).

Apple Watch comes in two sizes and two screen resolutions

We also now know the resolution of each screen. It'll come in two sizes: the 38mm Apple Watch will have a resolution of 272 x 340, while a 42mm version will have a 312 x 390 display.

Apple has only revealed the height of its new smartwatch screen, so we can't properly calculate the pixels per inch, and anyone who does is just guessing. But it'll likely rival the 300ppi of the Samsung Gear S.

Here's the Apple Watch design from all angles

The Apple Watch's screen is surrounded by casing made of custom alloys of stainless steel and aluminum that, according to the company, stand up to the physical demands of daily wear and another BendGate.

Beyond the "Apple Watch" and "Apple Watch Sport" versions, a special "Apple Watch Edition" mixes in 18-karat yellow or rose gold for a premium look. It certainly goes well with that gold iPhone 5S.

Three Apple Watch 'collections,' each with two sizes

That brings the metal colors to six: stainless steel, silver aluminum, space black stainless steel, space gray aluminum, 18-karat yellow gold and 18-karat rose gold.
Digital crown

The Apple Watch doesn't have a round display like the Moto 360, but the casing does feature a circular knob known as the "digital crown."
This input is unique among smartwatches, but a true classic derived from traditional watches. Apple has of course put a modern-day twist on its functionality.

Apple invents a new control scheme using a classic input

The Apple Watch digital crown replaces the pinch-to-zoom touchscreen mechanic used on everything from iPhones to MacBooks, which is too impractical on such a small display, according to Apple.

Rotating it allows you to zoom into your app selection, your location on Apple Maps and a photo from a gallery. Scrolling through dates and stopwatch times is handled by this knob too.

The digital crown also acts as the Apple Watch home button. There's no Touch ID sensor here, but Apple Watch is smartly tied to your wristwatch with an anti-theft passcode required whenever it's taken off.
Conversation button

The button below the digital crown allows you to start a conversation with friends.

Pushing it brings up a their contact info photos and zooming into a specific person with the digital crown gets things started.
Beyond calling and messaging Apple Watch wearing friends, you can get their attention with a gentle tap. It vibrates the "taptic" feedback on their smartwatch.

Communicate with simple vibrating taps or sketches

What's intriguing about this taptic feedback system is that it's said to be more precise and subtle than a vibration everyone can hear. Want to ditch a party? Your friends' secret sign may be three taps on the Apple Watch before bailing. It's an interesting way to get someone's attention.

The Apple Watch goes all Drawesome on us with a bizarre sketch function for light messaging on the wrist. Snapchat became big, why not Swipechat? You can also share your heartbeat with someone in real time, though we're not sure why you would want to.

Apple Watch bands

The variety of Apple Watch bands played better than U2 at the press conference, giving consumers a way to personalize their smartwatch.

Standard straps include Leather Loop that conceals magnets for easy fastening, the leather Modern Buckle and the leather Classic Buckle. There's also a gym-friendly elastomer Sport Band.

Apple Watch straps are easy to swap out

Higher-end metal straps include the Milanese Loop with flexible magnetic stainless steel mesh and the stainless steel Link Bracelet.

The ability to swap the straps without having to use tooling or visit or jeweler is one of our favorite features in the Apple Watch vs Moto 360 comparison.
http://www.techradar.com/us/news/portable-devices/apple-iwatch-release-date-news-and-rumours-1131043

[madfranks]

I think the apple watch is going to flop. They're trying to create a market where there is none.

[Horn]

I try not to pay attention to the time in general, let alone glorify it on my person.

This keeps me young at heart, I feel.

[Dogman]

Yep !

Every 'tick' is one more second lost !

[EE_]

I think the apple watch is going to flop. They're trying to create a market where there is none.

I think you're giving the world population more credit then they deserve.
The geek sheep will buy it hook, line and sinker. The world is about to be flooded with the smartwatch.

You'll probably own one too, just a little later then others.

Samsung Rumored To Launch A Round Smartwatch At MWC
11:26 am January 9, 2015 By Hammad Saleem

According to a new report from SamMobile, Samsung is reportedly working on a new smartwatch which will come with a round dial, and will apparently see the light of the day at the Mobile World Congress in March.

The alleged smartwatch comes with a SM-R720 model number, and is referred to as “Orbis” within the company.

As far as the operating system is concerned, the report suggest it will come with Tizen rather than Android Wear which is on most of the smartwatches. But, as for Samsung, most of their smartwatches run their own Tizen operating system. The news could correct as we’ve seen some patents hinting at a round smartwatch from the Korean company.

If the rumor pans out, this would be company’s first smartwatch with a round design, moving away from the traditional design for Gear smartwatches — the standalone Gear S came with a rectangular-looking design, while the other Gear watches also featured a similar design language.

Tizen is compatible with Android devices, but it’s a little different than Android Wear. Mobile World Congress 2015 is scheduled in March in Barcelona, it would be interesting to see if the Korean company has any surprises planned for its fans. We’ll update you as soon as we hear anything.
http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/samsung-rumored-to-launch-a-round-smartwatch-at-mwc-09-01-2015/

You might like something like this...

I think you can pick any dial you like
http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/moto3-blue-square.png
It's evolving to have many functions
http://zagg-blog.s3.amazonaws.com/community/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/motorola-moto-360-smartwatch.jpg
No need for your car keys anymore
http://cdn.gottabemobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/moto-360_car.png
Dress it up with a steel band
http://phandroid.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/moto-360-limited-edition-81-640x456.png

[Shami-Amourae]

I bet you will be wearing a watch within 2 years and you will wear it through most of your waking hours.

I stopped wearing watches when I was 10.

I used to wear the oversided TMNT ones like this:
www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-Watch-Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-Michael-Angelo-/181634123517

[EE_]

I stopped wearing watches when I was 10.

I used to wear the oversided TMNT ones like this:
www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-Watch-Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-Michael-Angelo-/181634123517

You're a tech geek and you will own one, mark my words.

[crimethink]

Watches made sense in the past but are stupid now. We have smart phones.

I have a classic wind-up pocket watch ready for the day when (not if) the "smart" phones stop working. It's Swiss, but not top of the line. No reason for a rich man's watch unless you are, indeed, filthy rich.

[crimethink]

To me, smart phones are a pain in the ass most of the time. I don't keep mine on me, and half the time it shows up missing. This morning it was in the refrigerator. If I keep it in my pocket, which I sometimes do, I risk damaging it because of work.

They just don't make things to last anymore. If you drop it, you break it and need another piece of shit from China.

High-quality watches (not necessarily stylish-for-the-filthy-rich-ones, just ones that work) remain the choice of anyone who works for a living and needs dependable time, every time. That includes mariners, like you. You sure won't see any Special Forces unit relying on an electronic device for accurate time.

I love gadgets, and am, indeed, a techie, but I understand fully technology's limitations in the face of EMP, another Carrington Event, and even simple human error tearing down the threads which keep such things running.

[crimethink]

I think the apple watch is going to flop. They're trying to create a market where there is none.

Apple Watch = amazon Fire Phone. :D

[Shami-Amourae]

You're a tech geek and you will own one, marke my words.

I use an early model smartphone that is 3G.

I only am a techie with PCs.

[crimethink]

I think you're giving the world population more credit then they deserve.
The geek sheep will buy it hook, line and sinker. The world is about to be flooded with the smartwatch.

I think madfranks will be right, but then, you could be, too. I think the "smart" watch is utterly retarded, since it requires another device to function. When they can cram the mobile phone into the watch, I'll take another look. Dick Tracy had one back in the 1930s! LOL.

[crimethink]

I use an early model smartphone that is 3G.

I only am a techie with PCs.

I tried an LTE phone, but was not pleased with the battery drain. I now have an HSPA+ phone ("3.5"G). I can come home and it's still 100% battery unless I made a significant call.

[Dogman]

Battery's are a royal pain when it comes to watches, self winding or manual are the best.

Battery watches are sorta kool for the other functions that a winder can not do.

[madfranks]

I think madfranks will be right, but then, you could be, too. I think the "smart" watch is utterly retarded, since it requires another device to function. When they can cram the mobile phone into the watch, I'll take another look. Dick Tracy had one back in the 1930s! LOL.

Exactly. You can't use an apple watch unless you own an iphone. So their market is existing customers, they won't attract people who don't own the underlying phone. And read the article, it claims one of the benefits of the watch is you don't have to constantly pull your phone out of your pocket to check things, like the time or email or facebook. Really, how much more difficult is it to raise your arm from your pocket to look at the phone than it is to just raise your wrist to look at your watch. The whole thing is silly.

And to EE, no I won't be wearing one of these any day, the only jewelery I wear are cufflinks and tie bars/tie tacks.

[Dogman]

I wear are cufflinks and tie bars/tie tacks. Sounds like a workplace uniform! Or going to a prayer meeting, which depending could be the same thing !

:)

[madfranks]

Sounds like a workplace uniform! Or going to a prayer meeting, which depending could be the same thing !

:)

Occasionally, professional dress is a requisite for my field. When I dress up, I wear gold coin cufflinks, and gold coin tie tacks. Hmm, maybe I should start a thread about this...

[Dogman]

Occasionally, professional dress is a requisite for my field. When I dress up, I wear gold coin cufflinks, and gold coin tie tacks. Hmm, maybe I should start a thread about this...These days my ideal of dressing up is wearing ether a button shirt or long sleeve shirt in cooler weather.

Humm, I know in your line of work being spiffy is a must.

Gold coin accessory's?

Mundo kewl !

;D

[madfranks]

These days my ideal of dressing up is wearing ether a button shirt or long sleeve shirt in cooler weather.

Humm, I know in your line of work being spiffy is a must.

Gold coin accessory's?

Mundo kewl !

;D

That does it. I'm starting a thread on this. Stand by...

[Hitch]

I have a classic wind-up pocket watch ready for the day when (not if) the "smart" phones stop working. It's Swiss, but not top of the line. No reason for a rich man's watch unless you are, indeed, filthy rich.

Yup, one watch is a swiss, not top of the line either, but a wind up from 1952. Over 60 years old, but runs like a champ and tells excellent time. I figure she will probably go another 60 years, at least.

Just opening up the case back and looking at the movement is impressive. How precise everything moves and works together is actually mind boggling. Mechanical watches like that are amazing.

[crimethink]

Battery's are a royal pain when it comes to watches, self winding or manual are the best.

Battery watches are sorta kool for the other functions that a winder can not do.

I imagine nanotech advances will be able to develop a battery, say, the size of a CR2032, that puts out the requisite energy for a cell phone. Although, I sure wouldn't want to be wearing one if it has a malfunction! KA-BOOM!

[zap]

Old Rolex 70's maybe .... working good after sitting in the drawer for 30 years.

[Dogman]

Old Rolex 70's maybe .... working good after sitting in the drawer for 30 years. Nice, been wondering about it, said you were going to have it cleaned.

Did they make it look like new, as they say they will?

[Hitch]

Old Rolex 70's maybe .... working good after sitting in the drawer for 30 years.

Beautiful watch zap! And a timeless style. That's the watch you pass on down the generations.

[Hitch]

Damnit. This is a classic example of Hitch luck.

I bought an old Elgin military watch from WW2 a couple of weeks ago, hasn't arrived yet....now I found and watched this video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VisWwbRIRi8

[EE_]

Damnit. This is a classic example of Hitch luck.

I bought an old Elgin military watch from WW2 a couple of weeks ago, hasn't arrived yet....now I found and watched this video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VisWwbRIRi8

That doesn't mean it is harmful to you.
Probably tritium used on the dial face?
I wonder what that geiger would read on the tritium night sights on your Glock?

[Hitch]

I wonder what that geiger would read on the tritium night sights on your Glock?

Hmmm.....how did you know I had night sights on my glock?

Thank you though, hope you are right.

[Dogman]

I have a ww2 military watch with a black face, the hands and numbers glow green in the dark.

The paint has radium in it, when I was a kid I made a home made cloud chamber with dry ice and alcohol and wow it was amazing. Took the watch to school and the science teacher tested it with a Geiger counter and the watch was hot so cloud chamber time was called for and the fun and amazement began. Thousand of atomic bullets shooting and making visible streaks per second.

Hitch you should not worry about wearing it, just do not remove the face and then touch the dial and then lick your fingers. Also just to add safety when not wearing it keep it across the room from you. ;) The works in the watch will protect your arm, the rest of you in general is far enough away to be safe, just do not tape the watch face down to your forehead!

;)

[crimethink]

Damnit. This is a classic example of Hitch luck.

I bought an old Elgin military watch from WW2 a couple of weeks ago, hasn't arrived yet....now I found and watched this video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VisWwbRIRi8

I wouldn't worry too much about it. The hands and face are painted with Radium. Unless you're licking the paint brush like the Radium Girls, you're not going to get sick. The CD V-700 is detecting Gamma, not the usual-concern of Alpha & Beta; the crystal stops both of the latter. Modern Tritium (Hydrogen 3) emits primarily Alpha & Beta particles, which are stopped by plastic & glass, so it's GRAS; a Geiger counter will generally not detect Tritium behind plastic or glass (only very low Gamma).

If you're really worried, you can do one of three things:

1) sell it to someone who doesn't care about the radioactive decay;
2) get a low-cost dosimeter;
3) lock it up in a thick metal box.

I personally would do neither of them, but it's your choice if you feel like it.

[crimethink]

That doesn't mean it is harmful to you.
Probably tritium used on the dial face?
I wonder what that geiger would read on the tritium night sights on your Glock?

Tritium didn't come into use until after WWII.

My Geiger counter doesn't even detect Nite Tritium Glowrings, nor should it detect gun night-sights.

[Hitch]

Thanks folks, I won't worry about the WWII watch then.

I plan on wearing it a lot though, I bought it for work. I don't think it's all original, which is fine, but it's been serviced by a watchmaker (the seller) and has a 1 year warranty on it. What's interesting about it, is on the case back it has a service number, which I'm told is the service number of the person it was assigned to during the war.

[monty]

I had one of those radium dial watches in when the uranium boom was active. I was holding specimens under the geiger counter. The geiger counter want will. Everyone thought "we are going to be rich" until one the old prospecter realized my watch was what was radioactiva.

[steyr_m]

We have smart phones.

I've never owned one...

[crimethink]

Thanks folks, I won't worry about the WWII watch then.

I plan on wearing it a lot though, I bought it for work. I don't think it's all original, which is fine, but it's been serviced by a watchmaker (the seller) and has a 1 year warranty on it. What's interesting about it, is on the case back it has a service number, which I'm told is the service number of the person it was assigned to during the war.

Oh, one more thing, if you do wear your new watch, keep in mind it emits Gamma radiation. If someone makes you angry, you'll turn green. :)

[Glass]

I thought about starting a new thread. I've looked for a more appropriate thread but I think we can fit in here.

I have many watches and wore them for years. About 10 year ago I stopped. I heard it said, thou shalt not "monitor" the time or the stars. Also clocks are every where you look so you really should be able to work out what time it is. My sense of time is pretty good so I managed pretty well with out wearing one.

I also wear a bioflow and it sometimes causes discomfort on the right wrist so left is better. Can't wear both the bioflow and the watch.

I was given a basic G-shock about 4 months ago. NIB. Entry level unit. Analogue + digital 2nd time zone + stop watch + date. I actually like it quite a lot. Never had one before but its light. Appears to be fairly tough. Tells the time as well.

Now I'm feeling the bug again. I looked at g-shocks years ago and decide they were a too big. There are a lot of G-shocks and the new ones are pretty impressive. You can get them that include altimeter, barometric, temperature and compass features. They are called Sensor watches. A year or so ago they had 2 sensor ones - measured two things like barometric and temp or altitude and temp.

Now they have 3 sensor units which give compass as well. Getting pretty big for a watch but impressive.

I see that Casio also have some of these capabilities in more dressy style watches as well as the G-shocks. Tissot also do a few of these. They have a touch screen watch which is pretty impressive but costs $1100 +.

Not interested in suunto or garmin etc. Had hoped TAG had something like these but not so far.

Anyone here run some of these more advanced watches? Come across another brand that has similar features?

[Hitch]

Anyone here run some of these more advanced watches? Come across another brand that has similar features?

I really like this one with atmospheric pressure and compass, heck it even has the tides on it. That's extremely helpful. I even like the look of it, which I'm surprised because I like the look of classic watches.

http://www.gshock.com/watches/Master_of_G/GWN1000B-1B

edit: wow, I am amazed at what this watch can do...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsJyyUiY3Xk

[Glass]

hope I haven't started a problem for you there Hitch ;)

I like the Rangeman. At first I thought it was a shooters gun. Might have some wind speed or some kind of cool ballistics calc in it. But no it's. It's an outdoorsman focused watch. It has a altitude graph so you can see your ups and downs as you hike along. Big watch though. A lot of people only wear them for purpose, not day to day due to the bulk of them.

The Rangeman is a digital interface. I really prefer the analogue but with this level of functionality I don't think it can be done as cleanly as it can with the 2 sensor models.

Not keen on the metal band retainer. Mine has a resin retainer, same material as the band.

I like how some of the models move the watch hands out of the way to allow you to see the features under them. The Tissot does this very well and I'd buy it if I had that kind of dough to blow. It even pins the hour and minute hands end to end when the compass function is in play. Very cool. Most videos are unboxing which is a wast of time IMO. I want some one to tell me what it's been like using it for a year or something.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwtqUtCcEXc

He reckons barometric, altitude is handy for long range shooting. ok. good news.

I know someone who has one of the Casio triple sensor watches - Pro Trek. Smaller and more stylish. Less rugged. Says the temp gauge is affected by body heat so you need to leave it on the table for 5 -10 minutes. He is an off road buggy racer so it comes in handy.

The guys blog: http://www.ocabj.net/casio-g-shock-rangeman-gw-9400-3cr-review/

Seems the one of the big things is that this watch takes only a second to grab data from satellites or the sensor or what ever it is doing, where as previous models could take several seconds of "waiting" or "calculating".

[Jewboo]

http://imgur.com/gallery/XdjPP7R

[Hitch]

Glass, I just wonder if a lot of that is just a gimmick. I'll have to do more research.

The thought that I could have a barometer, altimeter, weather....tides on my wrist is just not very believable. I might as well buy the apple watch, gold to make EE proud, and be done with it.

[Glass]

In honesty I have to say I wonder about all that as well. I was thinking that same thing when typing my last post to this thread.

It's all well and good but those features can be had elsewhere in other types of devices and debatably more functional. The one thing it doesn't do is allow you to store and dump that data to a PC.

[Hitch]

It would be great to test drive a watch like that. I can look at the buoy's, and tell the tide. Right now it's ebbing, etc. It would be cool to look at the watch, and say, hey, this sucks. The tides are wrong, and I'm sending this back!

If a watch could tell me, Hitch, here's the tides, the barometer, the weather, a compass, all right here on your wrist! I'd say heck ya, but don't think that's going to happen.

[steyr_m]

I thought about starting a new thread. I've looked for a more appropriate thread but I think we can fit in here.

I have many watches and wore them for years. About 10 year ago I stopped. I heard it said, thou shalt not "monitor" the time or the stars. Also clocks are every where you look so you really should be able to work out what time it is. My sense of time is pretty good so I managed pretty well with out wearing one.

I also wear a bioflow and it sometimes causes discomfort on the right wrist so left is better. Can't wear both the bioflow and the watch.

I was given a basic G-shock about 4 months ago. NIB. Entry level unit. Analogue + digital 2nd time zone + stop watch + date. I actually like it quite a lot. Never had one before but its light. Appears to be fairly tough. Tells the time as well.

Now I'm feeling the bug again. I looked at g-shocks years ago and decide they were a too big. There are a lot of G-shocks and the new ones are pretty impressive. You can get them that include altimeter, barometric, temperature and compass features. They are called Sensor watches. A year or so ago they had 2 sensor ones - measured two things like barometric and temp or altitude and temp.

Now they have 3 sensor units which give compass as well. Getting pretty big for a watch but impressive.

I see that Casio also have some of these capabilities in more dressy style watches as well as the G-shocks. Tissot also do a few of these. They have a touch screen watch which is pretty impressive but costs $1100 +.

Not interested in suunto or garmin etc. Had hoped TAG had something like these but not so far.

Anyone here run some of these more advanced watches? Come across another brand that has similar features?

I also love watches. I seem to gravitate towards Victorinox as I also have a small collection of Victorinox knives.

I also prefer analogue. I thought TAG was developing a smart watch...

http://www.wareable.com/android-wear/tag-heuer-android-wear-price-release-date-specs-958

[Glass]

I didn't even know that Victorinox did watches. Very cool.

Hitch I hear ya. But maybe the tides are wrong and not the watch? It would be useful to know if it's worth getting out of bed to go fishing maybe?

I don't know about these Synchronization radio beacons they have. With the new watches there are 6 such beacons around the world. None in my part. I think I would need to go to Hong Kong to get a signal..

Previously G-Shocks had 5 of these beacons and were labelled with the number 5. Now they are labelled with the number 6. I assume the 5's would pickup the 6th as well now it is operational. Not a functional limitation on the watch itself.

[Hitch]

Hitch I hear ya. But maybe the tides are wrong and not the watch? It would be useful to know if it's worth getting out of bed to go fishing maybe?

I don't know about these Synchronization radio beacons they have. With the new watches there are 6 such beacons around the world. None in my part. I think I would need to go to Hong Kong to get a signal...

I was wondering the same thing about the radio synch, that feature might be useless most of the time. As far as the tides and such, I can look out on the water and tell exactly what the tide is doing where ever I'm at, and if that function isn't accurate it would be very frustrating to me.

Also, I have all those features on my phone. The technology of these watches sure seems amazing though, but I don't think I can justify the cost.

[Glass]

The beacons have a big range. About 1500kms I think so nearly 1000 miles. I've realised that they run on different frequencies so unless the watch knows the freqs then it won't be able to use that new beacon. Maybe a firmware upgrade is possible.

I think it's some gimmick but people like stuff like this and well I guess it's an evolution. Who knows what the watches will feature in the future. I would like to see a GPS receiver. Maybe not to show where you are on a map but it could be good to be able to quickly tag a way point. Maybe download it to a device for mapping or something when you get home. Or even if it just showed lat/long co-ordinates.

ah they have one called the Gravity Master. Does some kind of GPS.

[Glass]

How to use a Tachymeter. Was a mystery to me.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2KZV_Ar4Bo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2KZV_Ar4Bo

[steyr_m]

I didn't even know that Victorinox did watches. Very cool.

Yep, maybe my next purchase...

http://www.amazon.ca/Victorinox-Swiss-Army-241493-Chronograph/dp/B005T4C30W

I might get a Sig 226 first though

[Glass]

Yep, maybe my next purchase...

http://www.amazon.ca/Victorinox-Swiss-Army-241493-Chronograph/dp/B005T4C30W

I might get a Sig 226 first though

good priorities. I was watching Hickok45 shooting a P320 I think it was compact in 9mm. Looks like a nice gun.

[steyr_m]

good priorities. I was watching Hickok45 shooting a P320 I think it was compact in 9mm. Looks like a nice gun.

I'm looking at the 226 for a 9mm/.22lr [conversion kit]. I have a H&K P7 in 9mm I might send to my Mom, so I need another 9mm. The P320 doesn't have the .22 kit. Nice looking pistol [even for a lefty -- Sig is not lefty friendly]

[Shami-Amourae]

Avoid semi-auto 22LR pistols. They are so bad. Only go for a revolver if you're going for a rimfire pistol.

[Glass]

cz75 has a 22 kit

[osoab]

Avoid semi-auto 22LR pistols. They are so bad. Only go for a revolver if you're going for a rimfire pistol.

Depends on the gun and what ammo your feeding imho.

[steyr_m]

Depends on the gun and what ammo your feeding imho.

I've heard that too. I'm looking for a .22 for: 1. you can shoot much more [cheaper] with a .22 than the bigger calibres. 2. My gf doesn't feel comfortable with the fuller-sized bullets. A .22 isn't considered a deadly bullet, but it is better than nothing. Maybe I will Put a Crimson Trace laser on it for her......

[Hitch]

I've heard that too. I'm looking for a .22 for: 1. you can shoot much more [cheaper] with a .22 than the bigger calibres. 2. My gf doesn't feel comfortable with the fuller-sized bullets. A .22 isn't considered a deadly bullet, but it is better than nothing. Maybe I will Put a Crimson Trace laser on it for her......

Steyr, I bought a ruger LCR .22 revolver and am very happy with it. It's compact, very lightweight, holds 8 rounds, they make speed loaders for it, small grips, holsters.

Another nice thing about the revolver, is you can shoot those subsonic rounds through it. You can't do that with a semi-auto. Those are a blast, quiet, cheap, and the ones I bought you can actually see the bullet travel through the air at the target. That makes target practice quite fun, and I was able to make slight adjustments and hit targets out to 75 yards with it.

[EE_]

A .22 isn't considered a deadly bullet, but it is better than nothing.

I've always heard/read that the .22 kills more people in the US then any other caliber. So yes, a .22 is a deadly bullet, just not a great choice for defense.
One reason so many die from .22's, is that there are more .22 firearms out there then anything else.

[Shami-Amourae]

I've heard that too. I'm looking for a .22 for: 1. you can shoot much more [cheaper] with a .22 than the bigger calibres. 2. My gf doesn't feel comfortable with the fuller-sized bullets. A .22 isn't considered a deadly bullet, but it is better than nothing. Maybe I will Put a Crimson Trace laser on it for her......

Get a 22LR Ruger LCR with a Crimson Trace laser then.

Low recoil and you have a laser.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5J14juvOUk

http://www.lasersightpro.com/image_manager/attributes/image/image_17/1096581515_4239499016_thumbnail.jpg

I just would NOT trust a 22LR semi-auto to go bang when my life depended on it.

[osoab]

I've heard that too. I'm looking for a .22 for: 1. you can shoot much more [cheaper] with a .22 than the bigger calibres. 2. My gf doesn't feel comfortable with the fuller-sized bullets. A .22 isn't considered a deadly bullet, but it is better than nothing. Maybe I will Put a Crimson Trace laser on it for her......

I know some that have the GSG 22 in a 1911 style. Nice gun. Runs most 22 LR. 10 rnd mag.

I still prefer my ruger single 6.

[steyr_m]

Steyr, I bought a ruger LCR .22 revolver and am very happy with it. It's compact, very lightweight, holds 8 rounds, they make speed loaders for it, small grips, holsters.

Thanks for the advice, but the longest barrel length it has is 1.875". The shortest barrel length pistol/revolver I can own in my country is 4.1".

[Shami-Amourae]

Thanks for the advice, but the longest barrel length it has is 1.875". The shortest barrel length pistol/revolver I can own in my country is 4.1".

I'd go with the SP101 then:
http://www.ruger.com/products/sp101/specSheets/5765.html

[steyr_m]

I'd go with the SP101 then:
http://www.ruger.com/products/sp101/specSheets/5765.html

I like the SP101, but I'm looking for a .22 calibre. Still looking at the Sig 226

[Shami-Amourae]

I like the SP101, but I'm looking for a .22 calibre. Still looking at the Sig 226

It is a SP101. It also has 22LR chamber.

My first gun was a 22 Sig. It was a complete lemon. It had a failure to feed or failure to eject literally every other round. I refuse to touch another Sig since I had such a horrible experience and absolutely hate Sig. Sig 22LR pistols are junk. They look cool but they are junk. The manufacturer recommends you only shoot CCI Mini-Mags out of them, and who the Hell sells that? Oh and the gun barely fires those too.

If you're so dead set on a 22LR semi-auto the best be would be Ruger 22/45:
http://www.ruger.com/products/2245/index.html

http://www.ruger.com/products/2245/images/Index.jpg
I've heard these are actually reliable, somewhat.

[Hitch]

I've heard these are actually reliable, somewhat.

I wonder if reliability with 22lr is more about the round, not the gun. Being rimfire, it requires more force to fire than centerfire. This leads to score another point for the revolver, double action, if a round doesn't fire, just pull the trigger again to rotate the cylinder to the next round. A semi-auto, you have to eject the dud round first. BTW, the only dud rounds I've had were with the cheap subsonic rounds in the LCR.

Steyr, have you thought about a 22 mag pistol? Sure, ammo might be a little more expensive, but it might be a lot more reliable in the semi-auto. Plus, a lot better for self defense.

Would like to get others thoughts on this.

[Jewboo]

The shortest barrel length pistol/revolver I can own in my country is 4.1".




http://www.impactguns.com/data/default/images/catalog/535/nam_naa-mmt-m.jpg
http://www.impactguns.com/naa-mini-master-22mag-4in-mmtm-744253000652.aspx



:(?? that .1 is a deal breaker

[Shami-Amourae]

http://www.impactguns.com/data/default/images/catalog/535/nam_naa-mmt-m.jpg
http://www.impactguns.com/naa-mini-master-22mag-4in-mmtm-744253000652.aspx



:(?? that .1 is a deal breaker

Wish those had double action triggers though. I'd avoid 22Mag though. 22LR gets the job done:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyR1K92pyq4

Pure lulz at which he finds out which is the best 22LR.

Apparently the greatest 22LR ever made:
http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/Primary/979/979430.jpg
;)

[Jewboo]

I'd avoid 22Mag though. 22LR gets the job done...




.22mag in pistol barrel has huge muzzle flash but no more velocity than .22lr. Total waste of powder.

Need a Crimson Trace on a pocket gun to hit anything beyond ten feet...lol.


:) .22 never for self defense

[Hitch]

http://www.impactguns.com/data/default/images/catalog/535/nam_naa-mmt-m.jpg
http://www.impactguns.com/naa-mini-master-22mag-4in-mmtm-744253000652.aspx



:(?? that .1 is a deal breaker

That gun looks awesome. 5 rounds, all stainless steel, and only $287!

[monty]

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7454&stc=1

I have a Colt Frontier Scout .22 LR. It is a great pistol, but has not been in production for years.

[Shami-Amourae]

.22mag in pistol barrel has huge muzzle flash but no more velocity than .22lr. Total waste of powder.

Need a Crimson Trace on a pocket gun to hit anything beyond ten feet...lol.


:) .22 never for self defense

I would get one of those tiny NAA for a backup gun. I've heard stories of cops patting down people at traffic stops, then the perp pulled out a tiny NAA and shot/killed them. It's something you can always have on you.

Check out all the crazy tiny holsters this guy has for this gun around 2:00:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlxzIIGQ8kg

Not a primary carry, but it can get the job done.

[Hitch]

I would get one of those tiny NAA for a backup gun. I've heard stories of cops patting down people at traffic stops, then the perp pulled out a tiny NAA and shot/killed them. It's something you can always have on you.
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On a pat down if a cop is not careful, I could see how that tiny NAA could be missed. Another place to carry it completely concealed, is that NAA is so tiny, it would probably fit completely hidden behind a wide belt, if hidden horizontal.