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mick silver
11th January 2015, 06:23 AM
Involuntary Simplicity: We Cannot Burn Fuel That Does Not Exist


"A hungry man is an angry man."
-- Bob Marley, "Them Belly Full (But We Hungry)""We do need to cut global carbon dioxide emissions by at least the 50% to 70% recommended by the United Nation Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. The Bush administration understands that this means the end of economic prosperity and industrial civilization as we know it. That is why Bush refuses to even acknowledge that global warming exists."
-- Dale Allen Pfeiffer, From the Wilderness
Concern about melting glaciers and extinction of charismatic megafauna is less likely to influence governmental energy policies than desperate scrambles to replace depleting fossil energy supplies.Most projections of future greenhouse gas levels ignore the fact that fossil fuels are finite. Focusing solely on climate change ignores the most important question facing humanity -- whether to "spend" the remaining oil on solar panels or battleships (a simplified version of the choice).
This is the way that carbon emissions are going to be reduced, not through voluntary simplicity nor offset campaigns.
If Peaked Energy results in severe hardships -- massive unemployment, a financial crash, food shortages, transportation disruptions -- it will be difficult to convince many people that we need to leave the oil, natural gas and coal in the ground to keep planet Earth stable enough to support human civilization. Framing the energy crisis as a decision about how to use the remaining oil can shift the debate toward more productive discussions: solar panels or battleships, relocalizing production or globalization, high speed trains or NAFTA Superhighways, boosting local businesses or subsidizing Wal-Mart big boxes. Each of these decisions is a choice whether to address the end of cheap oil and the start of climate change through accelerated business as usual or whether we will shift toward more sustainable behaviors. Unfortunately, these decisions are made by small elites that became wealthy and powerful through the destructive practices, and shifting course would be an admission that they screwed up.http://www.oilempire.us/triple-crisis.html

Ponce
11th January 2015, 08:43 AM
To take from the ground is like taking from the body........if the body is not re supply it would die, same as the Earth.......I lived in the best of times, and now I am living in the worse of time.......which in time it will get worse.

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Ponce
11th January 2015, 08:43 AM
To take from the ground is like taking from the body........if the body is not re supply it would die, same as the Earth.......I lived in the best of times, and now I am living in the worse of time.......which in time it will get worse.

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crimethink
11th January 2015, 12:11 PM
"Global Warming" aka "Anthropogenic Climate Change" is a hoax. Its purpose is two-fold; to create "carbon-credit exchanges" which will make selected individuals filthy rich(er), and, to use as a weapon against the people of Earth. The demands of the Jewnited Nations' IPCC to cut "carbon emissions" by 50-70% mean that billions of people have to go. You can't feed 7+ billion without petroleum-driven industrial agriculture.

Is oil running out? Highly unlikely, even if abiotic oil is not true. But if it is, it will reasonably never run out.

KenJackson
11th January 2015, 01:41 PM
"Global Warming" aka "Anthropogenic Climate Change" is a hoax.

Exactly.

And if anyone is inclined to believe the claim that there are no peer-reviewed papers in science journals debunking it, listen to the KWN interview with interview with Lord Christopher Monckton (http://kingworldnews.com/lord-christopher-monckton1-10-15/).

He and three other scientists published a peer-reviewed paper in the Chinese Science Bulletin in which he says they put together an irreducibly simple climate model and showed that the bigger model (in common use) makes fundamental mistakes of physics in the way it represents climate. He says doubling our CO2 output would only result in a one degree C rise--not something the earth needs saving from.

"The entire expenditure of governments around the world on global warming has been wasted. This is a non problem. In fact, a little warmer weather would almost certainly be beneficial in net terms."

crimethink
11th January 2015, 03:22 PM
Exactly.

And if anyone is inclined to believe the claim that there are no peer-reviewed papers in science journals debunking it, listen to the KWN interview with interview with Lord Christopher Monckton (http://kingworldnews.com/lord-christopher-monckton1-10-15/).

He and three other scientists published a peer-reviewed paper in the Chinese Science Bulletin in which he says they put together an irreducibly simple climate model and showed that the bigger model (in common use) makes fundamental mistakes of physics in the way it represents climate. He says doubling our CO2 output would only result in a one degree C rise--not something the earth needs saving from.

"The entire expenditure of governments around the world on global warming has been wasted. This is a non problem. In fact, a little warmer weather would almost certainly be beneficial in net terms."

‘Fears of man-made global warming exaggerated’

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/45786412.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst