View Full Version : "If you can't hold it, you don't own it" - Steve Quayle
madfranks
12th January 2015, 01:47 PM
Ponce's saying has been stolen again!!
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2015/01/10
Gold is tangible, the only asset not pledged multiple times (like derivatives are), and is accepted universally, he explained. Gold is also beyond the manipulative power of the central banks, Quayle noted. "If you can't hold it, you don't own it," he said.
mick silver
12th January 2015, 01:52 PM
words to live by .... If you can't hold it, you don't own it," add a few to this you best be able to hold to what you have
Spectrism
12th January 2015, 02:03 PM
I think he got around the copyright with a slight change.
Ponce: If you don't hold it you don't own it. (corrected english form from Spanglish)
Quayle: If you can't hold it you don't own it.
Spectrism: If you can't hold it, wet your pants.
chad
12th January 2015, 02:07 PM
who cares, his daughter is hot.
http://www.stephaniequayle.com/
Silver Rocket Bitches!
12th January 2015, 02:08 PM
This (http://www.blanchardonline.com/gold_as_investment/accumulation_easy.php)site from 2005 shows the saying and the earliest I find Ponce saying it is 2007 (http://realcent.forumco.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=16).
madfranks
12th January 2015, 02:38 PM
This (http://www.blanchardonline.com/gold_as_investment/accumulation_easy.php)site from 2005 shows the saying and the earliest I find Ponce saying it is 2007 (http://realcent.forumco.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=16).
I joined GIM in 2006 and even then it was an old Ponce saying. Back then I didn't even know who Ponce was but I knew it was his saying.
Neuro
12th January 2015, 02:55 PM
I joined GIM in 2006 and even then it was an old Ponce saying. Back then I didn't even know who Ponce was but I knew it was his saying.
Unfortunately GIM and its history was erased. Yeah I joined GIM in 2007, and the Ponce saying was definetely old by then, but he was either permabanned or he had stopped posting, so I didn't see any current writing of the leyend until this place started in 2010...
this is 'If you can't...' is a very halfassed alteration I think. It means I guess if you leave it in custody somewhere, and you can get permission to go and hold it sometimes, you still own it... But you're still dependent on the goodwill of the custodian. But if it is like Germany's gold held by New York banksters, and the Germans are not even allowed to see it, you can be certain that they stole it...
palani
12th January 2015, 03:09 PM
Steve Quayle is a metals dealer. Would you expect him to tell you to buy paper instead?
Same with having headaches and going to see a brain surgeon. He don't get paid if he doesn't cut your head open.
Ponce
12th January 2015, 03:53 PM
My saying has been published in 28 countries, according to my last town.....and three companies have made silver coins with the saying.
I am glad that I did not registered it........
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mick silver
12th January 2015, 04:01 PM
Do you believe America’s financial problems from 2008 have been fixed?
Neuro
12th January 2015, 06:08 PM
Do you believe America’s financial problems from 2008 have been fixed?
I think they started in 1913...
Dogman
12th January 2015, 06:13 PM
I think they started in 1913...
For some more like 1776 !
mick silver
12th January 2015, 06:15 PM
I didn't ask when it started I ask was it fixed 2008
Ponce
12th January 2015, 08:18 PM
It started in 1913..... you know what happen.
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Sparky
12th January 2015, 08:24 PM
Do you believe America’s financial problems from 2008 have been fixed?
Of course not.
jimswift
13th January 2015, 06:05 AM
his name is Steve and he named his daughter Stephanie?
palani
13th January 2015, 06:38 AM
his name is Steve and he named his daughter Stephanie?
Perhaps ... monogrammed sheets and towels?
Half Sense
13th January 2015, 06:43 AM
I think they started in 1913...
1861 we ceased as a nation when 7 southern states refused to sit for Congress. A month later, Lincoln illegally convened Congress without a quorum. We've been a fraud nation since.
Neuro
13th January 2015, 06:44 AM
his name is Steve and he named his daughter Stephanie?
Probably the same lack of imagination that made him steal Ponce's quote, and put his own name on it...
Neuro
13th January 2015, 06:46 AM
1861 we ceased as a nation when 7 southern states refused to sit for Congress. A month later, Lincoln illegally convened Congress without a quorum. We've been a fraud nation since.
It started when Adam and Steve err Eve, were cast out of paradise...
Dogman
13th January 2015, 06:49 AM
Perhaps ... monogrammed sheets and towels? Make sure the sheets are 100% cotton and at least 200 thread count, and make the towels extra large and fluffy!
;)
Neuro
13th January 2015, 07:34 AM
Make sure the sheets are 100% cotton and at least 200 thread count, and make the towels extra large and fluffy!
;)
You'll make a good housewife! ;D
Dogman
13th January 2015, 07:42 AM
You'll make a good housewife! ;D Naw!
Wrong sex, not the domestic type am barely house broken and I fart in the bed!
But I do like my comforts.
;D
jimswift
13th January 2015, 07:43 AM
1861 we ceased as a nation when 7 southern states refused to sit for Congress. A month later, Lincoln illegally convened Congress without a quorum. We've been a fraud nation since.
This is the good stuff.
Ponce
13th January 2015, 08:17 AM
Actually that will work on my favor because people will be doing web searches and will find me.......
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palani
13th January 2015, 08:29 AM
This is the good stuff.
Not really. The U.S. was always a federation of independent countries. Each of these countries has their own nationality. Referring to the U.S. as a nation implies that nationality is imparted by a direct relationship between the individual and the federation. Instead the relationship of the federation is to the constituent States that form it.
Ponce
13th January 2015, 01:31 PM
I did a quick search on the WWW and 2 metal companies are using "If you can' hold it, you don't own it", they are also recent....but then...it goes to good old Ponce.......Quayle is making me famous LOLLLLLLLL...boy oh boy, is sure going to my head ahahahahahahah.
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Shami-Amourae
13th January 2015, 01:45 PM
http://s10.postimg.org/vszaqk5vt/1_13_2015_2_42_31_PM.png
http://www.businessinsider.com/11-silver-investor-mentality-shifts-2011-7
Time to sue. Lawyer up Ponce.
If Christian Weston Chandler can patent Sonichu you can patent this. You should use your mad land patent skills or something.
Ponce
13th January 2015, 05:15 PM
Hahahhahhahahah that's funny, I mean, calling me "wise"..........hummmmmmm maybe that person is right and I don't know myself......
is my nose, upsssssssss, my head getting any bigger?
V
mick silver
13th January 2015, 06:22 PM
http://xshop.lmtreasures.com/public/images/uploads/id_no._1799.jpg
mick silver
13th January 2015, 06:23 PM
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/210/b/4/big_head__little_body_by_askadventurerronald-d5906gx.png
Neuro
14th January 2015, 03:53 AM
Hahahhahhahahah that's funny, I mean, calling me "wise"..........hummmmmmm maybe that person is right and I don't know myself......
is my nose, upsssssssss, my head getting any bigger?
V
The building of the leyend! A thousand years from now they will think you discovered Florida apart from the squeeze ball... ;D
Ponce
14th January 2015, 09:03 AM
You are right, my 14 great grand daddy did discover FL.........hence I should be the owner of the US...I think that I'll sue the government,..........oey vey oe vey, I am rich, I am rich.
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madfranks
14th January 2015, 11:03 AM
Another one!!
http://www.bullionbaron.com/2015/01/if-you-dont-hold-it-you-dont-own-it.html
If You Don't Hold It, You Don't Own It
'If you don’t hold it, you don’t own it' is a popular meme and catch phrase used by physical precious metal owners who like to encourage others to own it likewise (avoiding fraud of the 'paper' markets)... but what are the risks of owning physical?
There is no risk free way of owning precious metals (or any asset for that matter) and safe storage is the key factor when dealing with physical.
There's risk holding precious metals in safe deposit boxes.
There's risk holding precious metals in unallocated form.
And there's also risk holding precious metals at home.
As I pointed out in a recent article (7 Ways To Keep Your Gold And Silver Safe), there are burglars willing to turn a house upside down if they think you have something of value:
"A recent thread on Silver Stackers highlighted the care you need to take if deciding to store your precious metals at home, where during a break-in thieves had emptied potted plants, pulled out electrical sockets, removed picture frames, moved furniture and more."
There have been four home burglaries reported by members of Silver Stackers in Brisbane over the last 18 months. They may not be related, but some of them had factors suggesting the individuals were targeted due to known ownership of precious metals. In one case a 500kg safe was broken into with heavy duty tools (cutting torch and jackhammer), equipment that a thief is unlikely to carry on them for a random burglary. Another case had the safe 'pried open like a tin can'. Bleach was sometimes used at the crime scenes to cover their tracks, making any DNA and other incriminating evidence difficult to collect.
For some of these stackers it was a near complete loss of their life savings or investment.
It's a horrible way to lose one's life savings or even a portion of one's asset portfolio (commiserations to those affected if you're reading). You'd have to be the scum of the earth to do that to another person, but investors need to remember these cretins are out there and make sure they're not an easy target. If you're going to keep precious metals at home, make sure you take precautions when trading e.g. don't arrange deliveries to or pickups from your home address, don't transact in public where you might be easily followed home and be wary of providing any details that might be easily linked back to your home address (e.g. does searching for your full name or phone number produce an address in the White Pages or Google?).
Some individuals may ignore this risk because they believe their home and contents insurance policy will cover their losses, but most contents insurers have specific limits in place to reduce the payout for any bullion stolen. Some (Australian) insurer examples are below (my interpretation of their policy, check with the insurer for clarity and any changes over time):
AAMI (Limited to $500) - Uncut and unset gems, gold or silver nuggets, bullion and ingots (not jewellery).
Allianz (Limited to $2000) - Item containing gold and/or silver. We will not pay more than $2,000 for any one item, pair, set or collection unless they are separately listed in the current schedule as specified contents items.
CGU (Limited to $20,000) - Doesn't mention bullion by name, but potentially falls under a 'collection/set of contents items' (which is limited to $20,000).
QBE (Limited to $500) - Cash, bullion or negotiable securities. Up to 1% of the sum insured to a maximum $500.
SGIC (Limited to $2500) - Collections – cards, stamps, uncirculated mint issue or proof coins or notes, ancient or rare coins or notes, sovereigns and bullions.
YOUI (Doesn't cover) - Contents exclude: unset gemstones, gold or silver bullion or coins, cash or other negotiable items.
Some of these companies (or others not covered above) do offer the ability to increase the limits or list special items (incurring additional premium), however that also means you need to tell your insurer exactly what you keep at home.
If you're not going to diversify your assets, at least make sure the location of those assets is diversified. If you don’t hold it, you don’t own it? If you do hold it (in one place), you may not hold it for long.
Spectrism
14th January 2015, 11:18 AM
Here is another one from Spectrism: If you don't loan it, you won't bemoan it.
And.... To reduce sorrow, refuse to borrow.
Ponce
14th January 2015, 01:21 PM
I am beginning to believe that I am really a very WISE old man........keep up guy.....my head looks now like a balloon hahahahahaha.
By the way, just got back from the big town, the dollar store bumper to bumper, Wally's? four parking spaces from the main door, and lower prices.
V
mick silver
14th January 2015, 01:45 PM
is this you ponce http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HJiPqGDQjIw/UiB0UtMgLlI/AAAAAAAAE2U/Kip40xNTCwk/s1600/Balloon-Head1.jpg
Ponce
14th January 2015, 04:57 PM
LOLLLLLLLLLLL you better come up with a new laptop for me hahahhahahh,
V
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