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mick silver
15th January 2015, 07:48 AM
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Beirut (AFP) - The Islamic State jihadist group released a video on Tuesday purporting to show a young boy executing two men accused of working for Russian intelligence services.
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The video shows the two men apparently being shot dead by the child after being interrogated on camera about their alleged attempts to infiltrate IS in Syria.
Entitled "Uncovering an Enemy Within" in English, the video is narrated in Russian and opens with the interrogation of one of the men, who says he is a Kazakh citizen.
He says he was recruited by Russia's Federal Security Service (FSB) to get close to an unnamed IS fighter.
The second man, who does not give his nationality but says he worked for the FSB in Russia previously, says he was tasked with killing an unnamed IS fighter.
Both men say they were told to collect and transmit information about IS fighters in Syria.
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After the interrogations, the video cuts to an outdoors scene, where a bearded adult IS fighter in military-style clothes is standing next to a young boy armed with a pistol.
The man recites religious verses and says the two men are in the "custody of the lion cubs" of IS's self-declared Islamic "caliphate".
The boy has long hair and is dressed in a black zip-up sweater and military-style trousers.
The two men, dressed in matching grey outfits, are kneeling before the man and the child, who steps forward and shoots both men once in the head and then several times again after they collapse.
The end of the video appears to feature footage of the same boy from an earlier IS propaganda video telling an interviewer he wants to grow up to kill "infidels".
That footage appears to come from a video that emerged last year, showing the boy participating in a training camp for children, taking apart and reassembling a gun.
In that video, he gave his name as Abdallah, and said he was from Kazakhstan.
Russia's FSB agency had no immediate comment on the video.
The video appears to be the first time IS has shown a child carrying out an execution, though it has regularly featured children in its footage, showing them watching grisly killings and training to fight.
IS has held multiple foreign hostages, including a number of Western journalists and aid workers, beheading five of them in gruesome videos published online.
The group, which emerged from Al-Qaeda's one-time Iraq affiliate but has since split with the organisation, controls swathes of territory in Syria and Iraq.
It has declared an Islamic "caliphate" in territory it holds and has been accused of abuses ranging from slavery to forms of crucifixion.
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7th trump
15th January 2015, 08:27 AM
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Beirut (AFP) - The Islamic State jihadist group released a video on Tuesday purporting to show a young boy executing two men accused of working for Russian intelligence services.
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The video shows the two men apparently being shot dead by the child after being interrogated on camera about their alleged attempts to infiltrate IS in Syria.
Entitled "Uncovering an Enemy Within" in English, the video is narrated in Russian and opens with the interrogation of one of the men, who says he is a Kazakh citizen.
He says he was recruited by Russia's Federal Security Service (FSB) to get close to an unnamed IS fighter.
The second man, who does not give his nationality but says he worked for the FSB in Russia previously, says he was tasked with killing an unnamed IS fighter.
Both men say they were told to collect and transmit information about IS fighters in Syria.
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After the interrogations, the video cuts to an outdoors scene, where a bearded adult IS fighter in military-style clothes is standing next to a young boy armed with a pistol.
The man recites religious verses and says the two men are in the "custody of the lion cubs" of IS's self-declared Islamic "caliphate".
The boy has long hair and is dressed in a black zip-up sweater and military-style trousers.
The two men, dressed in matching grey outfits, are kneeling before the man and the child, who steps forward and shoots both men once in the head and then several times again after they collapse.
The end of the video appears to feature footage of the same boy from an earlier IS propaganda video telling an interviewer he wants to grow up to kill "infidels".
That footage appears to come from a video that emerged last year, showing the boy participating in a training camp for children, taking apart and reassembling a gun.
In that video, he gave his name as Abdallah, and said he was from Kazakhstan.
Russia's FSB agency had no immediate comment on the video.
The video appears to be the first time IS has shown a child carrying out an execution, though it has regularly featured children in its footage, showing them watching grisly killings and training to fight.
IS has held multiple foreign hostages, including a number of Western journalists and aid workers, beheading five of them in gruesome videos published online.
The group, which emerged from Al-Qaeda's one-time Iraq affiliate but has since split with the organisation, controls swathes of territory in Syria and Iraq.
It has declared an Islamic "caliphate" in territory it holds and has been accused of abuses ranging from slavery to forms of crucifixion.
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I wouldnt have a problem taking out that terrorist murderer boy.
Whats needed is a Rommel/Patton style invasion of the middle east....not this policing bullshit.
These muslims want to take over the world with their religion.
Celtic Rogue
15th January 2015, 10:00 AM
I wouldnt have a problem taking out that terrorist murderer boy.
Whats needed is a Rommel/Patton style invasion of the middle east....not this policing bullshit.
These muslims want to take over the world with their religion.
And you dont? That is all you preach! Killing people and fighting wars. Just to spread your christian type of evil! In my opinion your hate and their hate are EXACTLY the same thing! Ignorant!
7th trump
15th January 2015, 11:24 AM
And you dont? That is all you preach! Killing people and fighting wars. Just to spread your christian type of evil! In my opinion your hate and their hate are EXACTLY the same thing! Ignorant!
Ohhhh....seems I stepped on someones toes.
Upset that you cant find any Christians slaughtering people in the name of God and religion?
Hey I'll up you and say I want to see all murderers, pedophiles and rapists dead.
I say purge all evil off the face of the earth.
Your problem is you cant/dont see this muslims filth being a world problem.
The time is coming to see another crusade where modern day the muslims are not welcomed. Europe is beginning to open its eyes t othis fact.
Germany, with their history of not taking shit for very long will retalliate....we are seeing signs of this intolerance.
I dont think the Germans will accept no go area's in their communities like you see in France and else where.
The world is getting tired of these fucking muslims with their radical views.
Everwhere I go if muslims are brought up...the universal attitude is make a glass parking lot out of the middle east and deport all muslims....nobody wants them or their sharia law around.
mick silver
15th January 2015, 11:28 AM
HELL LETS JUST BURN THE WORLD DOWN AND SEE WHO LEFT , that's the path we are on
old steel
15th January 2015, 12:39 PM
I gots a match and some gasoline and i have experience.
Burned down the old coal shed on the farm when i was just a lil' kid.
Starting fires is like riding a bicycle.
mick silver
15th January 2015, 01:12 PM
did you shot your eye out with your new bb gun also;D
Horn
15th January 2015, 01:13 PM
Upset that you cant find any Christians slaughtering people in the name of God and religion?
Trump's talkin into a mirror, again.
7th trump
15th January 2015, 01:22 PM
Trump's talkin into a mirror, again.
I talk about religion and you get my view of murderers mixed in and mixed up.....hahahaha.....go figure!
Apparently you cant see past your nose.
Murderers are to be put to death...and that kid is a murderer....he murdered in the name of God.....a big no no!
He'll do it now again and again promoting the satanic religion of peace until he either is stopped dead in his tracks or the muslim satanic faith completely takes over.
If you havent thought about it yet........this kid isnt a murdering bank robber or theif.
Muslims are their own worst enemy....the world is hating them for their extreme views of peace and nobody feels safe or secure around any of them.
Nobody wants them around....they are a bully with a deadly weapon.
Horn
15th January 2015, 01:29 PM
You seem upset that there aren't more Christians to be found slaughtering people by their God's name.
War/slaughter solves nothing Trump, never has.
old steel
15th January 2015, 01:31 PM
Personally i don't see anything wrong with shooting people, as long as the right people get shot.
singular_me
15th January 2015, 01:32 PM
the crusades have not ended....
Upset that you cant find any Christians slaughtering people in the name of God and religion?.
are you a crusades denier? ... the fact is that millions of people got already killed as a result, for the sake of saving bible/talmud/koran,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-evIyrrjTTY
Following the First Crusade there was an intermittent 200-year struggle for control of the Holy Land https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades
singular_me
15th January 2015, 01:44 PM
real or not, it is subliminal anyway
killed by an angel of death
not graphic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0TW6OSOWy4
Dogman
15th January 2015, 01:48 PM
No angels in that vid.
The kid reminds me of Damien Thorn.
Horn
15th January 2015, 01:49 PM
Personally i don't see anything wrong with shooting people, as long as the right people get shot.
Trouble is, once the smoke settles, you've become them.
History is re-pleat with evidence.
PatColo
15th January 2015, 01:53 PM
this was still al-CIAduh's ISIS (It's Still Israel Stupid!) branch's most clever propaganda stunt-- straight from the "Fake bin Laden Video Studio",
http://www.redicecreations.com/ul_img/32504nasral-ansi_thumb.jpg
Al-Qaeda in Yemen claims responsibility for Charlie Hebdo attack (http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=32505)
2015-01-14 22:28
A still image from a video posted online on Jan. 14, 2015, by Al-Malahem Media, the media arm of Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, purportedly showing one of the group’s leaders, Nasr bin Ali al-Ansi claiming responsibility for the attack on Charlie Hebdo in Paris. Top leader of Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula says in video that it ‘laid out ...
Celtic Rogue
15th January 2015, 01:58 PM
Ohhhh....seems I stepped on someones toes.
Upset that you cant find any Christians slaughtering people in the name of God and religion?
Hey I'll up you and say I want to see all murderers, pedophiles and rapists dead.
I say purge all evil off the face of the earth.
Your problem is you cant/dont see this muslims filth being a world problem.
The time is coming to see another crusade where modern day the muslims are not welcomed. Europe is beginning to open its eyes t othis fact.
Germany, with their history of not taking shit for very long will retalliate....we are seeing signs of this intolerance.
I dont think the Germans will accept no go area's in their communities like you see in France and else where.
The world is getting tired of these fucking muslims with their radical views.
Everwhere I go if muslims are brought up...the universal attitude is make a glass parking lot out of the middle east and deport all muslims....nobody wants them or their sharia law around.
First of all I will never lump humans into groups. I dont see people as religions. You in your narrow world view cannot help but do this! Condemning everyone in that group with the actions of a small minority is called bigotry and is the tool of the oppressors!. The world is getting tired of them because of the ziomedia and false flags that brainwash the sheeple into thinking with their heart instead of their brain! Getting people all fired up to fight the muslims. There was no real muslim terror before the so called state of israel was established in 1948. The zionists are the ones responsible for the influx of muslims in europe today and multiculturalism... just as they are responsible for the illegal aliens and open borders in this country. This is all part of the plan and silent warfare to destroy the underpinnings of nationalism in the west.
http://youtu.be/INOYiDx7o2A
Your favorite nazi crew actually worked closely with the muslims!
http://youtu.be/VCa6_Fbx5Q4
Fanatics whether they be christian or muslim are still all assholes and are just fucking things for the majority pf people that just want to live and peace and raise their families in safety! You seem to fit right in! You should be proud to be a part of such a great plan!
singular_me
15th January 2015, 02:03 PM
thats why I say **angel of death**
No angels in that vid.
The kid reminds me of Damien Thorn.
Horn
15th January 2015, 02:05 PM
Hey Pat looks who's back, its polythene Sam.
She's making long strides for Obama and France's introduction of Islamic State Palestine into the League of Nations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U98EWIPZFmE#t=20
old steel
15th January 2015, 02:11 PM
Trouble is, once the smoke settles, you've become them.
History is re-pleat with evidence.
Then things will never change.
Embrace the status quo.
Horn
15th January 2015, 02:18 PM
Then things will never change.
Embrace the status quo.
"Things" is a broad definition. More often than not its the status quo pulling the trigger on each other.
They never last do they?
7th trump
15th January 2015, 04:01 PM
the crusades have not ended....
are you a crusades denier? ... the fact is that millions of people got already killed as a result, for the sake of saving bible/talmud/koran,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-evIyrrjTTY
Following the First Crusade there was an intermittent 200-year struggle for control of the Holy Land https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades
Paaaalease.......
Use what intelligence you can muster singular and show me any Christians today doing what these filthy savage muslims are doing across the globe on a massive scale for the same reason.
If I was a betting man I'd bet the muslims drew first blood....thus kicking off the crusades. They attempted to overtake Europe back then when Christianity was already established for 100's of years murdering millions....they eventually had their asses handed to them and I hope they get their asses handed to them again driving them all the way back to mecca where they belong.
Nobody wants them or feels safe around them...they are their own worst enemy!
They are coming to America and being spread around the globe for a reason....to take over and reduce the population of Christians by murder. You are included but I believe not intelligent enough to see your own death marching your way.
I'm not talking about what happened thousands of years ago.
What happened then is a whole different issue...those people then and aren't the same as today.
singular_me
15th January 2015, 05:27 PM
what you do not get, I am afraid, is that we still dealing with a reaction in chain... a 2000 year mess between religions
Paaaalease.......
Use what intelligence you can muster singular and show me any Christians today doing what these filthy savage muslims are doing across the globe on a massive scale for the same reason.
Horn
15th January 2015, 08:03 PM
show me any Christians today doing what these filthy savage muslims are doing across the globe on a massive scale for the same reason.
There are no Christians to speak of in the world, there's only people claiming that as a title.
They've been converted to jewry, and operating drones that drop in on wedding parties.
7th trump
15th January 2015, 08:57 PM
what you do not get, I am afraid, is that we still dealing with a reaction in chain... a 2000 year mess between religions
Use the grey matter between your ears singular.
The muslins have been the aggressors and still are....the mess or problem isn't Christianity....its the koran and the lazy ass arabs who follow thus satanic religious cult.
The muslims had been beaten back until they got the message...now generations later they are at dominating the world once again.
The only reason Christianity is as successful as it is is because its a blessing.....many nations came about out of Jacob....just as its been prophesized...and just as its been prophesized that all idol worshipping will be thrown into the pit...including those who worship their idols....even those who worship gods nature.
7th trump
15th January 2015, 08:57 PM
There are no Christians to speak of in the world, there's only people claiming that as a title.
They've been converted to jewry, and operating drones that drop in on wedding parties.
Hahahahaha.....
Once a clown always a clown.
singular_me
15th January 2015, 11:11 PM
ROFLOL... recognizing Natural Laws is very different than worshiping a three or the rain, etc, ya know
and you talk about grey matter between my ears? The bible is filled with natural laws written into parables, yet you dont see it, because if you did, we wouldnt be here talking. The evidence also that many christians do not understand textbooks
so we have 3 abramahic religions vilifying one another and only one of them is the real stuff. doesnt the bible says to "love you neighbor/enemy". Or is the bible just impossible to follow?
you are not talking about what happened thousands of years ago ? But those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.
ooh and also, keep going after the new agers while ignoring what is happening in your yard: Bible Numbers & Bible Gematria
http://seekingtruth.co.uk/bible_numbers.htm
can you spot the 4 horsemen on the horizon ?
Use the grey matter between your ears singular.
The muslins have been the aggressors and still are....the mess or problem isn't Christianity....its the koran and the lazy ass arabs who follow thus satanic religious cult.
The muslims had been beaten back until they got the message...now generations later they are at dominating the world once again.
The only reason Christianity is as successful as it is is because its a blessing.....many nations came about out of Jacob....just as its been prophesized...and just as its been prophesized that all idol worshipping will be thrown into the pit...including those who worship their idols....even those who worship gods nature.
Shami-Amourae
16th January 2015, 04:11 AM
http://s10.postimg.org/6o64n40fd/originassl.jpg
:rolleyes:
Religion of Peace™
singular_me
16th January 2015, 04:59 AM
shami, we all know that the western oil special interests in the middle east and the resurrection of israel play a major role.
and the website dares call itself "unbiased"
I dont know of any organized religion that has a peaceful past. Not even buddhism. All of them were built on blood... it is their blood legacy that induces the cycles of violence to start with. Moreover, lets stretch the meaning of violence a bit: how many abortions on the christian side over the last say 20 years?... and not only christianity, in india most women abort when then they are expecting a girl.
the whole planet is a death cult and thats why more and more people are interested in S&M...
Shami-Amourae
16th January 2015, 05:04 AM
shami, we all know that the western oil special interests in the middle east and the resurrection of israel play a major role.
and the website dares call itself "unbiased"
I dont know of any organized religion that has a peaceful past. Not even buddhism
Christianity is neutered. It's been pussified. Most Jews are atheists, and they use Judaism as a unifying force for their people. Islam is the only "raw" religion still left that hasn't changed.
EE_
16th January 2015, 05:42 AM
http://s10.postimg.org/6o64n40fd/originassl.jpg
:rolleyes:
Religion of Peace™
Another bogus chart
Atheist Jews and phony Christians have attacked and killed more people in the world then all other groups put together.
singular_me
16th January 2015, 06:35 AM
islam is 700 years younger than christianity... the middle ages and its witchs/books burning in the west was no fun either
no being an apologist here, merely saying that those who cannot understand the past are doomed to repeat it
Christianity is neutered. It's been pussified. Most Jews are atheists, and they use Judaism as a unifying force for their people. Islam is the only "raw" religion still left that hasn't changed.
7th trump
16th January 2015, 08:26 AM
Another bogus chart
Atheist Jews and phony Christians have attacked and killed more people in the world then all other groups put together.
Wow...seriously?
Use your brain here.......did it ever accur to you that the chart is from 1970 to present day?
Why would you inject what happened prior to 1970 to conclude this chart is bogus?
Wheres the intellect at?
I really have to question the sanity of members of GSUS.
I dont understand some of you people. And some of the GSUS members claims to be intelligent and awake................................?
7th trump
16th January 2015, 08:30 AM
Christianity is neutered. It's been pussified. Most Jews are atheists, and they use Judaism as a unifying force for their people. Islam is the only "raw" religion still left that hasn't changed.
Yes you are absolutely correct that christianity has been neutered.
I'm accused of being a radical Christian practically on a daily basis on this site. Which is an indicator just how far pussified and neutered my accusers are.
And the thing is....they dont even realise it!
EE_
16th January 2015, 08:32 AM
Wow...seriously?
Use your brain here.......did it ever accur to you that the chart is from 1970 to present day?
Why would you inject what happened prior to 1970 to conclude this chart is bogus?
Wheres the intellect at?
I really have to question the sanity of members of GSUS.
I dont understand some of you people. And some of the GSUS members claims to be intelligent and awake................................?
Let's start the count from 1970...
The Vietnam war lasted until 1975 and 3.8 million Vietnamese were killed.
Do you justify their deaths knowing what you know today? Who gave the orders to kill them?
EE_
16th January 2015, 08:35 AM
Yes you are absolutely correct that christianity has been neutered.
I'm accused of being a radical Christian practically on a daily basis on this site. Which is an indicator just how far pussified and neutered my accusers are.
And the thing is....they dont even realise it!
You are not being accused! You are a radical Christian by definition.
I don't believe you are Christian though. No real Christian wishes death on so much of mankind as you do. You should be working for Fox News.
7th trump
16th January 2015, 08:42 AM
ROFLOL... recognizing Natural Laws is very different than worshiping a three or the rain, etc, ya know
and you talk about grey matter between my ears? The bible is filled with natural laws written into parables, yet you dont see it, because if you did, we wouldnt be here talking. The evidence also that many christians do not understand textbooks
so we have 3 abramahic religions vilifying one another and only one of them is the real stuff. doesnt the bible says to "love you neighbor/enemy". Or is the bible just impossible to follow?
you are not talking about what happened thousands of years ago ? But those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.
ooh and also, keep going after the new agers while ignoring what is happening in your yard: Bible Numbers & Bible Gematria
http://seekingtruth.co.uk/bible_numbers.htm
can you spot the 4 horsemen on the horizon ?
My point was singular.......... you arent getting into paradice by worshipping natural law.........you might as well worship a stone.
The sun is natural......why not worship it like the egyptians did.....you really arent much different than them.
You get in only by accepting Christ as your savior........which you do not accept.
7th trump
16th January 2015, 08:48 AM
Let's start the count from 1970...
The Vietnam war lasted until 1975 and 3.8 million Vietnamese were killed.
Do you justify their deaths knowing what you know today? Who gave the orders to kill them?
Again, wheres the intellect?
Do you understand "object" from "subject" ...or do you just allow emotions to run the show?
The vietnam war wasnt a war over religion.
These muslims will murder you because plain and simply you arent a muslim. If they dont murder you then they will extract money from you. So your choice when confronted by a muslim is you'll either be murdered, robbed or both.....because their muslim sharia law allows them to pillage, plunder and murder.
Here in the USofA if a person points a gun at you and demands all your money....you can use deadly force against them.
You can even use deadly force is someone wants to take your life...and the reason they want to take your life doesnt matter.......you can still use deadly force against them.
So call me a radical christian...its an honor!
Christianity doesnt promote pillage punder and murder like the koran promotes the muslims to commit.
And Christianity doesnt have freaks who give out Imams saying its OK to rape in the name of God in the time of war or have sex with animals.
I bet you dont even know what the vietnam war was fought over.
Can you stay focused enough to not veer off the topic here?
EE_
16th January 2015, 09:00 AM
Again, wheres the intellect?
Do you understand "object" from "subject" ...or do you just allow emotions to run the show?
The vietnam war wasnt a war over religion.
These muslims will murder you because you arent a muslim. If they dont murder you then they will extract money from you. So your choice when confronted by a muslim is you'll either be murdered, robbed or both.....because their muslim sharia law allows them to pillage, plunder and murder.
Here in the USofA if a person points a gun at you and demands all your money....you can use deadly force against them.
You can even use deadly force is someone wants to take your life...and the reason they want to take your life doesnt matter.......you can still use deadly force against them.
I bet you dont even know what the vietnam war was fought over.
Can you stay focused enough to not veer off the topic here?
I could say government is a religion and their reason for war is not much different, or better, then any religious war.
Shami-Amourae
16th January 2015, 03:16 PM
Let's start the count from 1970...
The Vietnam war lasted until 1975 and 3.8 million Vietnamese were killed.
Do you justify their deaths knowing what you know today? Who gave the orders to kill them?
The stats are for documented terrorist acts. Not acts of war. An act like Fort Hood would count, but the invasion of Iraq by US forces wouldn't. Fort Hood was sanctioned by a lone terrorist, and the invasion of Iraq was sanctioned by the US Government.
singular_me
16th January 2015, 03:30 PM
atheist shami and fundamentalist 7th patting each other on the back.. the evidence that extremes mean same. I have nothing about you thanking each other, just understand the Natural Laws even better now
EE_
16th January 2015, 03:45 PM
The stats are for documented terrorist acts. Not acts of war. An act like Fort Hood would count, but the invasion of Iraq by US forces wouldn't. Fort Hood was sanctioned by a lone terrorist, and the invasion of Iraq was sanctioned by the US Government.
Okay, then I take back my statement. So clue me in...
Is jihad terrorism and not an act of war? Are unjust wars for oil, or political gain not terrorism?
How many people can be involved to be a terrorist attack 1, 2, 20, 400, 400,000? Is there a certain number?
Is the slaughter of Palestinians by Israel war, or terrorism?
singular_me
16th January 2015, 03:54 PM
lets define terror... war IS terror, and there are terrorist acts because of gov waging wars on civilians - and cultural coercion induced by monopolies.
we are talking of consequences
EE_
16th January 2015, 04:10 PM
lets define terror... war IS terror, and there are terrorist acts because of gov waging wars on civilians - and cultural coercion induced by monopolies.
we are talking of consequences
Another point to mention, is it an "act of war" as shami put it, if there was no declaration of war.
Seems to me, none of the wars in the Middle East were declared by congress.
Only congress has the power to declare war. So what should we call it?
singular_me
16th January 2015, 04:37 PM
how about this:
terrorist acts are unlawful terror... war is lawful terror
whatever the term lawful means.
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