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Ares
20th January 2015, 05:39 AM
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The Bringthestanleykidshome Facebook Page is reporting:

Praise God this morning we got the news a local well known lawyer who deals with family cases, has taken their case free of charge. Also a national news group is going to run the story. Several radio stations want to do radio interviews.

They are also reporting on this Facebook Page that the children, all of whom have been homeschooled their entire lives, have been put into public school.

by Brian Shilhavy
Health Impact News Editor

Relatives of the Stanley family in Garland County, Arkansas have reached out to MedicalKidnap.com to notify the public that the 7 homeschool children of Hal and Michelle Stanley were removed during the night by DHS and fully armed sheriffs this past week, simply because they reportedly found a supplement in the home that was not approved by the FDA.

KARK4 in Hot Springs Arkansas has reported on the situation:

http://www.clipsyndicate.com/video/play/5559246

Some excerpts from the KARK4 report:

A “miracle” mineral treatment alleged to be a remedy for cancer and AIDS is at the center of an law enforcement search warrant. The investigation ended in the removal of seven children from their home in Garland County.

The family has cried foul, saying only the father has taken it and it’s mostly used for purifying water for their garden. Hal and his wife Michelle were kept outside for hours while officers searched the home with their seven children inside.

They avoid most contact with the government. The parents have home schooled their nine children, two of whom have graduated and gone on to college. The Stanleys keep to themselves, are generally self-sustained and consider themselves “preppers”.

Hal added, “There’s never been any beer, liquor.” They say they’ve never had a run-in with the law before. “I’ve never had a speeding ticket.” The Stanleys say since the night they had their children taken, friends and relatives have called and shown support.

As the children were removed from the home Hal and his wife Michelle say they emotionally asked who made the decision. Hal said, “And finally a young man from the Sheriff’s department raised his hand, ‘I did it and I’m proud of the decision’.”

Michelle worries about her children, “They’ve never been away from us in any kind of setting like that.”

Read the Full Story here. (http://www.arkansasmatters.com/story/d/story/7-children-taken-from-parents-during-search-for-mi/18793/P9S1iYaoUEuIXypDAa_3kQ)

FDA Attacks MMS – An Apparent Threat to Pharmaceutical Drugs

Health Impact News has also reported on how the FDA has targeted the main distributor of MMS, who is facing 37 years in prison. This is in spite of the fact that the product has been used in Africa by the Red Cross to treat Malaria, and reportedly has helped tens of thousands of people worldwide. The product is made from sodium chlorite, which is a perfectly legal product and can be purchased online in such places as Amazon.com and eBay.

Daniel Smith has been embroiled in a legal battle with the FDA for almost 5 years, and has been confined to his home under house arrest wearing a government monitoring device around his ankle for over two years:

I’m attaching a photo of this clever device, which assures the government I am safe and sound in my home every night between 10:00 P.M. and 6:00 A.M. In the beginning, it insured that I never left home at all – not even to the grocery. Other than keeping me from going swimming with the kids, I hardly notice it’s there anymore. This device communicates with an alien-looking GPS-device that sits on top of our piano. (Source.)

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While the FDA and other authorities are attacking both distributors and users of this “unapproved” product, several pharmaceutical companies have existing drug trials in place for similar products, according to the MMS Defense Fund site:

It was no surprise then when, in June of 2013 (after the arrests), sodium chlorite suddenly received “orphaned drug status” in the EU for the treatment of ALS (Lou Gehrig’s Disease). See Sodium Chlorite (NP001) Receives Orphaned “Drug” Status in the European Union.

It was also no surprise to find that clinical studies were already under way for the use of sodium chlorite (designated “NP001″) in the treatment of Alzheimer’s, Multiple Sclerosis, and Parkinson’s.

Neither was it a surprise to find numerous patents – many based on clinical studies – for the use of acidified sodium chlorite in the safe and effective treatment of HIV, dermatologic and inflammatory diseases, infectious diseases, cancers, and diabetic ulcers, to name a few. See also, Immunokine designated “WF10“.

More recently, the U.S. military has turned to sodium chlorite to generate chlorine dioxide (ClO2) to fight the spread of dread Ebola.

Nobody has died from the many years of this product being used all around the world, but every year over 100,000 people die from FDA approved pharmaceutical products.

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For more information on MMS and the FDA attacks, see: FDA Attacks Man for Selling Supplement that has Healed Tens of Thousands – Facing 37 Years in Prison
A Shocked Mother’s Email to Friends and Family

Very concerned and troubled relatives have passed on to Health Impact News this email written by the mother of the children:

I did not have the strength to call after all that happened today. I still haven’t been able to fall asleep and I don’t have much hope that I will. The DHS has come and stolen our kids from us under the guise of “protecting our children.” For the first time since I gave birth to Madelyn I am away from all my bambinos. Only Hal and I are here alone in this wide house tonight.

The details are so many and I know you’ll want to know them all. I will try to give a short account in this email and then fill you in more over the phone tomorrow.

Last month the DHS sent someone out to investigate a call made on their hot line (by an anonymous caller.) The lady who called let us know that she was somewhat embarrassed at how silly the charge was against us but that it was her job to investigate it anyway. We welcomed her into our home and she immediately knew that the charges were frivolous. The charges were that our kids were always running around barefoot, “even in the snow” and that they were inadequately dressed. Also that Hal had struck Christina on the face.

We showed her some of the “200 and something” pair of shoes and told her (actually the kids told her) how it was their preference to go barefoot and that it was like a tradition to briefly run out in the snow barefoot and take a picture of the footprints. We assured her that when they played in the snow they all liked to wear multiple layers of clothing and bags over their feet to keep their shoes from getting wet and that they wore plastic gloves over their winter gloves to keep them from getting wet and cold too. Everyone in the family knew Hal had never hit Christina so they all eagerly told her that wasn’t true. She wrote her report and a couple of days ago we got it in the mail and it said that the charge was not valid or false (I don’t remember the exact wording but the report was that the charge was not true.)

Then today we had plans for company to eat supper with us in the evening and we got a call in the morning from the DHS saying they got another phone call and that they had to come out just to ask us some questions again. We planned it for the morning at 11:00 so it wouldn’t interfere with our evening plans. Then he called back and said he had been called into a meeting with his supervisor and that he would probably be later.

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Well, he never called back and never came. Then around 4:30 several people showed up at our door, all obviously here for the investigation and we welcomed them in. However they desired us to step outside in order to speak privately with Hal and I and not in front of the kids. I tried to tell them it was much warmer inside and that it was nothing for the kids to go to the back of the house for us to have privacy talking. They refused and insisted on us stepping outside.

It was freezing cold and neither Hal or I had on coats. After stepping outside they issued us a search warrant and said we could not enter our house or talk to our kids until the search and the investigation was through.

You can only imagine how hard it was to play it cool and not blow up at the injustice that started to unfold.

We could not go get a coat, we could not call a lawyer, we could not retrieve anything inside like a phone or a camera to record anything or call anyone.

They offered to let us sit in one of the 12 vehicles that ended up being in our driveway to keep warm. I blatantly refused saying I was not going to sit somewhere I couldn’t have a view of my children and what all was going on so I sat on a chair on the porch facing our front window and driveway, freezing cold.

It was almost 30 minutes later before they retrieved our coats for us to put on.

They said the charge was that we had a poisonous substance in our house and that the kids were being exposed to it and it endangered their welfare. The substance named in the report was MMS and we would have gladly given it to them without a search warrant because we knew nothing of the dangers of it from all our research. It is sold online as a water purifier and we are “preppers” so there is nothing unusual about us having it in our house.

Never has it been used it in any way to “poison” our kids or even expose them in such a way as to endanger their lives. Nor did we feel we were endangering them to have it in our house.

They said they still had to have all the kids checked out by a doctor and be tested for MMS exposure. Of the 12 emergency, state, county, federal, etc. vehicles, one was an ambulance and there happened to be a doctor on board who could check them out without having to take them to the hospital.

Each of the kids had to be interviewed and our house was thoroughly searched everywhere for over 2 hours! Such invasion of privacy. Meanwhile everyone we talked to at this point tried to be nice and answer our questions as best they could.

We asked who made the charge and if anyone could just make any accusation and they have to act on the call regardless of its validity. They said it could be a hateful neighbor, a prank caller, someone with malicious intent and they still would have to act on the call.

The call was anonymous and therefore the caller was protected while all our rights were taken away.

I questioned what the possibility of our kids being taken away were if they deemed the charge true, knowing that they would find the MMS which was not hidden since we didn’t know of any danger it presented. They talked like the investigation would be drawn out over a 45 day period of time and that it would just involve the kids going to the Little Rock hospital for the test to be done (hair follicle test, blood work etc.) and that there would be interviews and visits etc.

We of course expressed all our concerns as to what this would do to the kids since they’ve never been to the doctor for sickness or health issues and they’ve never been away from us in that type of setting.

I insisted if we had to tolerate such an order that I or we as their parents at least be present with them while the procedures were done.

All our neighbors who passed by stopped and tried to find out what in the world was going on and they were all sent away with no explanation. Our guest who when they arrived tried to approach us on the porch did not get far onto our property before she was approach forcefully with an “in your face” insistence that they leave.

I yelled to her to take pictures of all the vehicles with her phone since we were not allowed to do anything to protect our own innocence at what they were doing to us.

It was about 2 hours before we were let back into our house and yet we still could not have any concerned neighbors come in and be witnesses on our side. They were back and forth all over our house, inside and outside, on the phone and talking to us.

There were over 13 (I couldn’t keep track how many) different authorities here. Our phone rang like crazy and no one was allowed to answer it.

Finally one neighbor was able to come in and our phone became ours again. During the times they weren’t talking to us I made calls to the guest we were expecting and then some of our neighbors called to see what was going on. I couldn’t tell them how it would end but that I’d call them back after they left and let them know what all happened. Our guest still planned to come after they left (they were just driving around waiting for them to leave and the whole time they were here which ended up being around 5 hours) they kept saying “just a few more minutes” or “I’m just waiting for one more phone call.”

There was never any hint that they would take our kids from us.

They waited till 15 minutes before it was all over to come in from outside, 6 intimidating brute looking males and 1 DHS female all lined up in our den to tell us they would be taking our kids into their custody for 72 hours.

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All my niceties left me. I flipped out and told them that what they were going to do to our kids was way worse than what they were accusing us of. They were totally unjust and didn’t love our kids like we do….. on and on crying at my helplessness to protect my kids from total strangers who where going to take them away from us under the guise of “protecting” them.

All the little kids were upset and Hal and I and the girls were all crying and in shock.

They started packing stuff for our kids to have clothes and things while they were gone and my head was spinning in a nightmarish state. They tried to calm me down and I said I had every right to be upset with them because they were taking my babies from me.

When I did calm down for the kids sake, and try to comfort them they ripped them away from us saying that we had already taken too much time and that they had to go.

I grabbed my camera and started following them to take pictures. The pictures did not come out very good because my mind couldn’t function on how to operate the camera in such a frenzied state. It was on glitter mode which makes all the bright lit stuff sparkle. I’m very disappointed I didn’t get any pictures of all the people and vehicles that were there while it was still daylight.

I still can’t believe they are gone. I have no idea what will happen tomorrow or what comes next.

Do We Now Live in a Police State? Take Action!

The family has requested that the public call the following people:

State Police Headquarters: 501-767-8836
Kathy Finnegan 501-767-8550 (head investigator at State police department of our case.)
DHS Department 501-321-2583 on menu choose Dept. of Children and Family
Garland County Sheriff office Main Office Phone: (501) 622-3660 ask why did Mike Write make the decision to hold the Stanley kids?

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Spectrism
20th January 2015, 06:18 AM
As the children were removed from the home Hal and his wife Michelle say they emotionally asked who made the decision. Hal said, “And finally a young man from the Sheriff’s department raised his hand, ‘I did it and I’m proud of the decision’.”

I would sure like to meet that proud young man. I would also find out who the "concerned neighbor" was that kept dropping the dime.

I am amazed that hunting parties have not already put this kind of operation out of business.

Ares
20th January 2015, 06:23 AM
I would sure like to meet that proud young man. I would also find out who the "concerned neighbor" was that kept dropping the dime.

I am amazed that hunting parties have not already put this kind of operation out of business.

I am too actually. People used to get killed in this country over much less. Yet people call this a "civilized" society?

palani
20th January 2015, 06:31 AM
This is what happens when you agree to birth certificates. The state didn't seize someone elses kids. They seized their own kids.

Spectrism
20th January 2015, 06:34 AM
This is what happens when you agree to birth certificates. The state didn't seize someone elses kids. They seized their own kids.

No asshole. It is not about birth certificates. Their first mistake was to let a DHS inspector come in.

Ares
20th January 2015, 06:35 AM
This is what happens when you agree to birth certificates. The state didn't seize someone elses kids. They seized their own kids.

Oh bullshit. No where on the birth certificate does it say the kids belong to the state. Hidden contracts are null and void, and a contact without full disclosure is null and void.

palani
20th January 2015, 06:40 AM
No asshole. Without one of these then your system must be pretty backed up.



It is not about birth certificates. Their first mistake was to let a DHS inspector come in.
Why would a DHS spokesman want to come in anyway if they didn't believe their property was being trained improperly?

palani
20th January 2015, 06:44 AM
No where on the birth certificate does it say the kids belong to the state. Hidden contracts are null and void, and a contact without full disclosure is null and void.
You aren't dealing with law. You are dealing with a bankrupt entity that can make its' own rules. These rules are 100% in EQUITY and there is no judge sitting on the bench. Rather it is a chancellor and here is a 16th century view of the source of the chancellors' powers


Bacon argued that in proceedings that might concern the King the case should be removed (from King's Bench ... Common Law) from the common-law courts to the Chancellor, who should judge whether the King had the power he claimed to exercise. As the Chancellor, in Bacon's words, was 'ever a principal counsellor and instrument of monarchy, of immediate dependence on the King', the effect would be to make this dependent functionary the sole and unchecked expositor of royal authority on all matters affecting private rights.

Ares
20th January 2015, 06:47 AM
You aren't dealing with law. You are dealing with a bankrupt entity that can make its' own rules. These rules are 100% in EQUITY and there is no judge sitting on the bench. Rather it is a chancellor and here is a 16th century view of the source of the chancellors' powers

The moment they went in with a warrant (which was most likely false) and kidnappings someone's kids they were under law.

palani
20th January 2015, 06:53 AM
The moment they went in with a warrant (which was most likely false) and kidnappings someone's kids they were under law.
There is a Roman maxim of law: Things that are similar are not the same.

It is impossible for any bankrupt entity to have a law. They are irresponsible. All states (courtesy of Harry S Truman as of June 20th, 1948) are quasi-states that are nothing more than federal colonies.

Don't blame me. I wasn't born then.

Ares
20th January 2015, 07:04 AM
There is a Roman maxim of law: Things that are similar are not the same.

It is impossible for any bankrupt entity to have a law. They are irresponsible. All states (courtesy of Harry S Truman as of June 20th, 1948) are quasi-states that are nothing more than federal colonies.

Don't blame me. I wasn't born then.

You know how doesn't care? The family of the 7 kids or the police who kidnapped them. They'll claim their LAWFUL authority to do so, and that it was done according to LAW not equity.

Spectrism
20th January 2015, 07:21 AM
Without one of these then your system must be pretty backed up.

Don't worry. My palani works just fine. I even did a big obama yesterday.
You and hyper should get together.


Why would a DHS spokesman want to come in anyway if they didn't believe their property was being trained improperly?


Because they are a crappy government agency scratching for relevence and seeking to grow like a cancer.

palani
20th January 2015, 07:41 AM
They'll claim their LAWFUL authority to do so, and that it was done according to LAW not equity.
Of course they will. Generally speaking their oath is to either the federal or the state constitutions or both. Either one of these is a lawful document. In the case of the federal constitution though this document is largely irrelevant because it has been entirely replaced with a constitution called the 14th amendment. So essentially their federal oath is to the 14th amendment. This is called the RED amendment (as in communist).

Now because the several States refused to take on Harry S Truman in 1948 they have agreed to be 'covered' by federal judicial districts. The several States still exist but you mention any state name these days and the inference is going to be you are referring to one of the states of the United States. They are not independent. They are dependent.

Administrative agencies exercise sovereign powers. That is, they incorporate executive, judicial and legislative functions. They are entirely UNCONSTITUTIONAL in this mode but, hey, there they are. And what have you done to bring this defect to their attention? In the constitution (the organic one) these administrative agencies fall under the category of BILL OF ATTAINDER.

palani
20th January 2015, 07:45 AM
Don't worry. My palani works just fine. I even did a big obama yesterday.
You and hyper should get together. And did you admire your own work?




Because they are a crappy government agency scratching for relevence and seeking to grow like a cancer. I don't see you doing anything to correct the process yet you do a lot of crapping out of your opinion hole.

7th trump
20th January 2015, 07:55 AM
You aren't dealing with law. You are dealing with a bankrupt entity that can make its' own rules. These rules are 100% in EQUITY and there is no judge sitting on the bench. Rather it is a chancellor and here is a 16th century view of the source of the chancellors' powers

Wow............using the foreign law form of England again to interpretation your misunderstandings of our Republic form of government here clear across the globe in the USofA.

You need to find a hobby of some sort....something preferably without any toxic glue involved.

palani
20th January 2015, 08:01 AM
Wow............using the foreign law form of England again to interpretation your misunderstandings of our Republic form of government here clear across the globe in the USofA.

You need to find a hobby of some sort....something preferably without any toxic glue involved.

I suppose you believe you are effective in curtailing rampant government? You just figured out a way to ease the pain so that you may ignore it while others fight your battles.

Coward.

Spectrism
20th January 2015, 08:10 AM
And did you admire your own work?

I said I worked my palani. I didn't say I was one.



I don't see you doing anything to correct the process yet you do a lot of crapping out of your opinion hole.

There you go doing a selfie again.

7th trump
20th January 2015, 08:12 AM
I suppose you believe you are effective in curtailing rampant government? You just figured out a way to ease the pain so that you may ignore it while others fight your battles.

Coward.

Ummmm....rampant government needs fuel (money) does it not?
I'm helping to starve the beast at its source of fuel.
If every American stopped giving this rampant government the fuel it needs to be rampant across the globe it will ceases to be rampant........thats simple logic!
It effective logic!

Talking about foreign governments is neither helpful or effective.
Really all you are doing by talking about foreign governments is helping the rampant government be more rampant by confusing everyone which is leaving them in the dark.
Ignorance doesnt breed intelligence.

palani
20th January 2015, 08:16 AM
I said I worked my palani. I didn't say I was one.
Maybe your private functions should remain private?

palani
20th January 2015, 08:21 AM
Ummmm....rampant government needs fuel (money) does it not?
I'm helping to starve the beast at its source of fuel. You are sucking down benefits while driving up government debt. Government feeds on debt. If in doubt look at the current state of the present governments national debt and ask yourself how it has survived this long.

If every American stopped giving this rampant government the fuel it needs to be rampant across the globe it will ceases to be rampant........thats simple logic! It effective logic! This is what they used to say about VOTING. An excess of democracy hasn't corrected government either. Neither will having the worlds largest debt. You want to know why? Because in 1933 DEBT became synonymous with MONEY. To the government they are one and the same.

Talking about foreign governments is neither helpful or effective. They are ALL foreign governments unless you declare yourself to be a citizen, domestic and a voluntary slave. That is where the 'VOLUNTARY SERVITUDE' comes in.

Really all you are doing by talking about foreign governments is helping the rampant government be more rampant by confusing everyone which is leaving them in the dark. Ignorance doesnt breed intelligence.
Ignorance does breed experience though it is a harsh teacher. More rational men operate with reason.

BrewTech
20th January 2015, 08:24 AM
Nice derail! This was sort of an important topic, but like many good topics here, it got intellectualized to meaninglessness.

palani
20th January 2015, 08:29 AM
Nice derail! This was sort of an important topic, but like many good topics here, it got intellectualized to meaninglessness.
I don't see any remedy in your post ... unless you intend to mean that I shouldn't respond in a cordial manner to members who are deliberately ignorant and insulting.

Twisted Titan
20th January 2015, 08:32 AM
Somebody that had beef with these people snitched.

I would be asking some SERIOUS QUESTIONS of my neighbors and i am looking dead in their faces because a liar cant look a honest man in the eye when questioned by him.

God help you when i find you.


Screw with me all day long but harm my childeren?

Well...i will show you better then i can tell you.

palani
20th January 2015, 08:44 AM
Somebody that had beef with these people snitched.

Snitched on what? Off the shelf supplements?

The issue here is the home schooling. The state already knew of that.

Don't you remember all those drills from several years ago where DHS simulated a crowd of homeschoolers surrounding a public school (as if they were trying to fight their way in to a system their parents removed them from)?

It pisses those in the public fool system off ROYALLY that all the spelling bees are won by homeschoolers.

Look ... the article even stated the man of the house had never even received a ticket while driving. As much as admits he has a drivers license. That alone exceeds the minimum contact rule. He does business with administrative agencies so is controlled by them.

Dogman
20th January 2015, 08:52 AM
Home schooled or not the school system still gets the tax payments, tho schools do count on 'enrollment' numbers for state support. So schools are pissed because they do not get ALL of the money they can per student.

Proper home schooled kids do at least equal and more likely exceed public schooled kids in academics.

7th trump
20th January 2015, 08:52 AM
You are sucking down benefits while driving up government debt. Government feeds on debt. If in doubt look at the current state of the present governments national debt and ask yourself how it has survived this long.
This is what they used to say about VOTING. An excess of democracy hasn't corrected government either. Neither will having the worlds largest debt. You want to know why? Because in 1933 DEBT became synonymous with MONEY. To the government they are one and the same.
They are ALL foreign governments unless you declare yourself to be a citizen, domestic and a voluntary slave. That is where the 'VOLUNTARY SERVITUDE' comes in.

Ignorance does breed experience though it is a harsh teacher. More rational men operate with reason.

A lot of projection palani.

Twisted Titan
20th January 2015, 08:54 AM
The article said a tip came in about barefoot childeren running in the snow.

And then a second call came in.

Somebody was sticking their nose in this familes affairs.

Spectrism
20th January 2015, 09:06 AM
Maybe your private functions should remain private?

LOL... you finally got it!

Spectrism
20th January 2015, 09:14 AM
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Here is the catch: Christian Family.

Police Take 7 Kids From Christian Family After Raid For Legal 'Miracle' Substance

Read more: http://www.whyn.com/articles/national-national-news-104668/police-take-7-kids-from-christian-13166730/#ixzz3PNYGYI9O

A Christian family from Arkansas had their 7 children taken from them by police. An army of police came to the the Stanley family's home to search for "MMS" or miracle mineral supplement. The supplement is said to be able to treat cancer and other ailments, but the FDA warns that it can be turned into bleach and cause nausea, vomiting and diarrhea. Despite this, it is not illegal and can be bought online.
Hal Stanley claims that he uses "MMS" for his garden and does not give it to his children. He was shocked the police surrounded his home in search of the substance and even more shocked when the police decided to take away his children.

midnight rambler
20th January 2015, 10:44 AM
The BIRTH CERTIFICATE is the nexus. I had a TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY attorn-ey at DPS HQ advise me of that when inquiring as to why I prohibited from making an explicit reservation of rights on my DRIVER LICENSE ~25 years ago in a FTF conversation. The attorn-ey said to me: "You must sign your name as it appears on your birth certificate."

As I was trying to tell Fred/CT the other day, the name on state issued ID IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS* is NOT the flesh and blood living soul, it IS a creation of the state, a legal fiction/strawman/corporate person/political subdivision of the (corporate) state.

*there is no provision in the English language for the full capitalization of proper nouns (if you think there is, then show the evidence - I *know* where this ALL CAPS horseshit originates from, the UCC)

palani
20th January 2015, 01:53 PM
The BIRTH CERTIFICATE is the nexus. I had a TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY attorn-ey at DPS HQ advise me of that when inquiring as to why I prohibited from making an explicit reservation of rights on my DRIVER LICENSE ~25 years ago in a FTF conversation. The attorn-ey said to me: "You must sign your name as it appears on your birth certificate."

As I was trying to tell Fred/CT the other day, the name on state issued ID IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS* is NOT the flesh and blood living soul, it IS a creation of the state, a legal fiction/strawman/corporate person/political subdivision of the (corporate) state.

*there is no provision in the English language for the full capitalization of proper nouns (if you think there is, then show the evidence - I *know* where this ALL CAPS horseshit originates from, the UCC)

My certificate places me at birth in Copperas Duck Watershed. Now as this watershed extends to both Illinois and Iowa I made sure it says I was born on the west bank but specifically not in any corporate state, county or municipality. You go around making declarations of where your rights originate from and first thing you know you are accepting benefits from foreign corporations. Watersheds are a natural and non-political division and according to the EPA and USDA .... WE ALL LIVE IN ONE.

7th trump
20th January 2015, 02:03 PM
The BIRTH CERTIFICATE is the nexus. I had a TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY attorn-ey at DPS HQ advise me of that when inquiring as to why I prohibited from making an explicit reservation of rights on my DRIVER LICENSE ~25 years ago in a FTF conversation. The attorn-ey said to me: "You must sign your name as it appears on your birth certificate."

As I was trying to tell Fred/CT the other day, the name on state issued ID IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS* is NOT the flesh and blood living soul, it IS a creation of the state, a legal fiction/strawman/corporate person/political subdivision of the (corporate) state.

*there is no provision in the English language for the full capitalization of proper nouns (if you think there is, then show the evidence - I *know* where this ALL CAPS horseshit originates from, the UCC)

The birth certificate has nothing at all to do with any nexus.
The birth certificate doesnt sign any "rights" away. And no parent can sign the "rights" away of their children or anyone.

Palani is hoping you fools beleive in his primerose path bullshit thats been circling the web for decades so he can justifiy his lack of understanding and misunderstanding.

The SS Act is the nexus.

You sign a SS-5 form under penalty of perjury to being a "US citizen".

You cant get a drivers license without a ssn.
You sign a W4 under penalty of purjury.
You even sign a 1040 under penalty of perjury.



All of these "applications" require a common denominator...........the disclosure of the ssn.

madfranks
20th January 2015, 02:04 PM
My certificate places me at birth in Copperas Duck Watershed. Now as this watershed extends to both Illinois and Iowa I made sure it says I was born on the west bank but specifically not in any corporate state, county or municipality.

How did you ensure this? Did your parents ensure it on your behalf? Or did you have your original certificate changed once you were an adult??

Serpo
20th January 2015, 02:16 PM
But but but this was not FDA approved .........surely thats reason enough to take all your children away from you .............ffffffffaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrkkkkkkkkkkkk


http://www.rense.com/general33/legal.htm

The FDA Just Approved A New Weight Loss Device That Blocks Your Brain From Feeling Hungry


http://www.mtv.com/news/2053193/new-weight-loss-device/

palani
20th January 2015, 02:21 PM
How did you ensure this? The document takes validity by my act of possessing it.

Did your parents ensure it on your behalf? While my parents were born in the same region as I was their generation suffers from the perspective that government is to be trusted.

Or did you have your original certificate changed once you were an adult?? I made a point of sending certified copies of the 'original' [you cannot get the original anymore ... you get something that looks like a stock certificate] with a cordial refusal letter back to multiple government agencies. The correspondence was duly recorded.

The state department saw fit to return their copy but I just sent it back to them. All this was done 7-8 years ago.

Glass
20th January 2015, 03:47 PM
The birth certificate is the result of an information reporting the arrival of a baby(lonian).

That information reporting is in the form of a registration. Registration gives equitable rights over the property to the registrant - aka Government.

in my state we only register still births, however everyone gets registered.

English law does apply in the US because a) that's where your laws started from and they are inherited and still in force/applicable in principle to day. That means the principles are still valid. b) the US is part of the commonwealth. The UK believes this, the Queen believes this and has said so.

yes stopping the beast from feasting on you is a good thing. but it needs to be stopped feasting completely. That's the fight.

Ares
22nd January 2015, 08:02 PM
Judge Refuses to Allow Stanley Family Children to Go Home – Issues Gag Order -

Health Impact News Editor Comments

Judge Wade Naramore reportedly ruled today in Juvenile Court in Garland County Arkansas that the Stanley Family children could not go home. Friends and relatives of the Stanley family in Arkansas have issued the following statement on the Bringthestanleykidshome Facebook Page:

The Judge ruled that there is probable cause to temporarily keep the children. There will be another hearing on Feb. 12th. No one is allowed to speak about what has happened in the court room. The Lawyer said he was not surprised. The prosecution had time to put their case together, the defense was given less than 24 hours. He said we now have time to get our case together. Hal and Michelle will have visitations with the children. Thank you all for your prayers and support.

Magellan also brings us this report:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1421914688&x-yt-cl=84503534&v=q89RIJLKF3I&feature=player_embedded

Link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1421914688&x-yt-cl=84503534&v=q89RIJLKF3I&feature=player_embedded

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Judge Wade Naramore ruled that there was “probable cause” to keep the children in state custody, according to the Bringthestanleykidshome Facebook Page.

Health Impact News Editor Comments

Judge Wade Naramore reportedly ruled today in Juvenile Court in Garland County Arkansas that the Stanley Family children could not go home. Friends and relatives of the Stanley family in Arkansas have issued the following statement on the Bringthestanleykidshome Facebook Page:

The Judge ruled that there is probable cause to temporarily keep the children. There will be another hearing on Feb. 12th. No one is allowed to speak about what has happened in the court room. The Lawyer said he was not surprised. The prosecution had time to put their case together, the defense was given less than 24 hours. He said we now have time to get our case together. Hal and Michelle will have visitations with the children. Thank you all for your prayers and support.

Magellan also brings us this report:

Attorneys State Gag Orders in Family Courts are Unconstitutional

Since we have been covering the topic of medical kidnappings here at Health Impact News, we have found that anytime there is media exposure to the inner dealings of child protection services and family or juvenile courts, the judge will almost always issue a gag order. But attorneys outside of the family court system have called into question the legality of these gag orders, and whether or not they are constitutional. See:
Family Court Judges’ Unconstitutional Gag Orders On Parents
Parents Last Statements to the Public Prior to the Gag Order

The parents were recorded on video answering alleged charges made against them prior to today’s hearing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-cl=84503534&x-yt-ts=1421914688&v=UNzJUdeEoA4&feature=player_embedded

Link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-cl=84503534&x-yt-ts=1421914688&v=UNzJUdeEoA4&feature=player_embedded

Hal Stanley’s Testimony

In the beginning of this video, Hal Stanley describes what happened the night authorities came and took their children away. He states that he and his wife were forced to stand outside in the cold for more than two hours, without their coats, while they searched their home. He states that they produced a search warrant, which stated he was using a substance called MMS. He claims that the “whole issue” for the search was this supplement, which he calls a water purification treatment.

The father then goes on to explain how they took their children out one by one to an ambulance that had been brought to their home, and that there was a doctor who examined each child, and proclaimed each one as “healthy,” and that there was no sign of abuse, saying that everything was “fine.”

He then relates how they told them to pack two changes of clothes for their children, as they were taking them away, and that they all began to cry.

Mr. Stanley then explains that after holding the children for 8 days, they found out from a press release that they were being charged with child abuse, even though nobody had told them there were any concerns of child abuse. They received a notice to appear in court less than 24 hours before the scheduled court appearance.

Mr. Stanley explains that he believes most of the charges against them probably came from “one disgruntled teenager.” He explains that they are just a normal Christian family that tries to live by the standards of the Bible, and not “fanatics.”
Neighbor Testimony

Next in the video, the Stanley’s next door neighbor of 14 years gives his testimony. He states that his family is originally from Nebraska, but that he is now retired. He is a former teacher and school administrator. He talks about how they have watched the Stanley children grow up next door in a loving family, and is often together with the family for meals.

He talks about how the children are always well-dressed, polite, and eager to help. The family shares their produce with them from their garden.

The neighbor expresses his love for the family, and states how he and his wife are trying to help out as best they can. He states that he was there when it was announced that they were taking their children away, and that it was hard to watch:

If you have ever seen a mother cry for her family, well, I certainly did. Mother and father, arm in arm crying – that’s hard.

Michelle Stanley Testimony

Next, Michelle Stanley comes on camera and reiterates that the search warrant was for MMS, and that there were no other allegations made. She says that they did not get to see any charges until they were faxed to their attorney, “after-hours” on Friday, which was the beginning of a 3-day weekend. She explains that their homeschooled children were already put into a public school.

She also explains that during the investigation, nobody asked her and her husband anything, they only talked to the kids. On a previous visit by DHS, she claims that DHS found nothing wrong, and that “they were very comfortable that the kids were safe.”

However, she claims that Mike Write of the sheriff department made the decision to remove the children in spite of what the DHS found.

She states that the “two teenagers” were kept in a police vehicle for over 5 hours, and that she was worried what the teenagers might be saying all alone. The teenagers were apparently asked what would happen if they left them at home, and they allegedly replied that the parents would “flee.”

Mrs. Stanley then relates how they heard about the charges of child abuse and neglect from the sheriff’s press release. She states,

“Anybody who has been in this home knows that these children are not abused and not neglected.”
She addresses the “friends” who called the authorities and says “shame on you,” stating that if they didn’t like something about the way they were parenting they could have come directly to them. She explains that whatever charges they bring against her do not justify taking away all her children, and that the younger children “will never be the same.”

http://medicalkidnap.com/2015/01/22/judge-refuses-to-allow-stanley-family-children-go-home-issues-gag-order/#sthash.OPd15iYQ.dpuf

Glass
22nd January 2015, 08:33 PM
“Anybody who has been in this home knows that these children are not abused and not neglected.”


They will be abused now. Nothing is so juicy and tasty for a paedophile than decent innocent children. Salivation and drooling over the prodpects of getting their hands on these "7" children.

I notice how they often do this on long weekends. You notice that? Then they can spirit the kids away over the break. I'll bet that they will be relocated and then lost before the month is out. poor kids. I hope I am wrong but I can sense a feasting is on the off.

Cebu_4_2
23rd January 2015, 06:58 AM
[QUOTE=Ares;755357the younger children “will never be the same[/QUOTE]

Now that they all had their mandatory vaccinations pumped in their bodies in a short time they most likely will not be the same.

mick silver
23rd January 2015, 10:12 AM
we the people have let this happen . still people don't believe when I say we have lost all control of this government , their no going back when someone can harm your family and not have to pay. if there a case for marching down the street then this is it ............. but not a peep