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Cebu_4_2
21st January 2015, 12:48 PM
Man Tackles Concealed Carrier, Is Arrested for Battery (http://bearingarms.com/hes-got-gun-florida-man-tackles-concealed-carrier-arrested-battery/)

Posted by Bob Owens (http://bearingarms.com/author/bobowens-bearingarms/) on January 21, 2015 at 10:27 am
http://media.townhall.com/_townhall/uploads/2015/1/21/8.jpgMichael Foster, AKA, “Florida Man”

Oh Florida Man (http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/florida-man), what have you done now (http://tbo.com/news/crime/deputies-man-attacks-walmart-customer-carrying-concealed-weapon-20150120/)?
Michael Foster was charged with battery for attacking another customer, Clarence Daniels, at Walmart, 11110 Causeway Blvd, Brandon.

Just before noon Tuesday, Foster, 43, of Lithia, saw Daniels in the Walmart parking lot in possession of a handgun that was in a holster and under his coat, the sheriff’s office said.

Foster followed Daniels in the parking lot and into the store. While in the store, Foster attacked Daniels, 62, of Seffner, the sheriff’s office said.

Foster grabbed Daniels from behind in a choke hold and then took him to the ground, the sheriff’s office said.

While both men struggled, Foster yelled that Daniels had a gun. Daniels also yelled that he had a permit to legally carry the gun, the sheriff’s office said.


This may come as a shock to rabid anti-gun liberals and would-be dysfunctional super heroes, but owning and carrying a concealed firearm is perfectly legal in all 50 states (to varying degrees).

I would love for people who support gun control and who think concealed carriers are violent to take a long, hard look at this story.
After arriving at his destination, Mr. Daniels slipped a holstered handgun into his pants, which is perfectly legal.

Foster saw this, and then jumped to conclusions based upon incomplete data (and apparently, a complete ignorance of the law). Foster then tackled Daniels from behind and attempted to control him some sort of incompetent chokehold.

At this moment, Clarence Daniels had every legal right to draw his gun and shoot Michael Foster. He made the conscious decision not to take Foster’s life.

Despite behind unexpectedly attacked, Mr. Daniels kept his composure, grasped that while Foster was attacking him from behind, he wasn’t attempting to kill him, and Daniels refrained from drawing his weapon and filling Foster’s entrails full of hot lead.
This interaction rather neatly makes a number of points:



Supporters of gun control are fear-filled and ignorant of the law.
Some supporters of gun control are not only ignorant of the law, but fearful and violent.
Most concealed carriers are extremely reluctant to use their firearms, even when they have a legal right to do so.


Once again, the “rivers of blood” that were promised by hysterical gun control cultists when Florida became the model for the modern concealed carry movement 28 years ago simply never came to pass. Lawful citizens are lawful citizens, and firearms are not talismans that turn lawful concealed carriers into raving sociopaths.

They do, however, apparently drive supporters of gun control completely insane.
Perhaps we should outlaw gun control groups… for the children.

Half Sense
21st January 2015, 02:04 PM
The weapon was obviously not concealed if another person saw it.

madfranks
21st January 2015, 02:08 PM
Supporters of gun control are fear-filled and ignorant of the law.
Some supporters of gun control are not only ignorant of the law, but fearful and violent.
Most concealed carriers are extremely reluctant to use their firearms, even when they have a legal right to do so.



Excellent points, and worth repeating.

madfranks
21st January 2015, 02:11 PM
The weapon was obviously not concealed if another person saw it.

You're right, the man didn't properly conceal his weapon, since someone else saw it. When I first started carrying, I made damn sure that every time I did the weapon was fully hidden. No inside-waist band holsters with the butt of the gun sticking out where everyone can see it.

gunDriller
21st January 2015, 02:36 PM
I heard a similar story about an American Indian (who actually bought my 350 pound kindling stash for a real fair price) who was attacked by some skinhead/pseudo white supremacists.

Real bad, very gruesome. Picking up a bartender girlfriend.

Didn't get his gun out soon enough. Took a battering that left his eye hanging out a few inches on his cheek, like that one episode of Deadwood.


As the skinheads were running away, they told a cop, 'he's got a gun'. So the cops jumped on the guy with the eye hanging out of his socket, and cuff him.

Glass
21st January 2015, 02:42 PM
what he saw was the man "pocketing" the firearm in the car park, so before the concealment. Nothing to say he did not adequately conceal it.

Cebu_4_2
21st January 2015, 04:30 PM
Probably safer to just open carry. Would he have been tackled if he was I don't know but they open carry around here quite often and I wouldn't go trying to take down some guy with a gun. Might have looked like he was trying to be sneaky to the guy that took him down.

Norweger
21st January 2015, 04:35 PM
Yup. Most anti-gun people are scared. Fear and in some cases the belief in some sort of paradise on earth (which completely ignores human nature) is their motivation.

BrewTech
23rd January 2015, 07:19 AM
Just skimmed through this article, but it looks to be attempting to twist the issue towards an agenda... what I thought was interesting that it implies that the only danger the tackler was in by assaulting this guy was simply breaking the law, not getting shot in self-defense, which I would argue is slightly more important!

http://news.yahoo.com/man-assaulted-by-vigilante-at-florida-walmart-230643501.html