A Car That Runs on Air, Water

[Serpo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_2tlnf6y_k&x-yt-ts=1421914688&x-yt-cl=84503534

[Dogman]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium%E2%80%93air_battery

[singular_me]

oil industry is digging its grave...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium%E2%80%93air_battery


bold: yeah sure!

Aluminium–air batteries or Al–air batteries produce electricity from the reaction of oxygen in the air with aluminium. They have one of the highest energy densities of all batteries, but they are not widely used because of problems with high anode cost and byproduct removal when using traditional electrolytes and this has restricted their use to mainly military applications. However, an electric vehicle with aluminium batteries has the potential for up to eight times the range of a lithium-ion battery with a significantly lower total weight.[1]

[mick silver]

we did this five years back and a whole lot cheaper and still no takers

[Serpo]

true

[mick silver]

the truck run on water , it took over a year but the truck runs

[steyr_m]

What I don't like about what I see trending for cars is, electric vehicles. tptb can still control things if they hold the mines, rare earth minerals, battery factories. What I'd like to see is an ICE with someone pouring water into his tank and the engine burning H2... Just like guy who did it to his VW bug and he got killed off.....

[Dogman]

What I don't like about what I see trending for cars is, electric vehicles. tptb can still control things if they hold the mines, rare earth minerals, battery factories. What I'd like to see is an ICE with someone pouring water into his tank and the engine burning H2... Just like guy who did it to his VW bug and he got killed off.....

If there was a way to break the very strong bond that oxygen and hydrogen have for each other cheaply and easily and not put in to it more energy than is produced, then katty bar the door and watch out!

[mick silver]

we did the most work on heating the water so it would break down

[Cebu_4_2]

Anything at all bypassing the oil industry gets canned or dead. EVERY TIME. No follow up stories of anything except death and suicide.

[Dogman]

we did the most work on heating the water so it would break down ? care to explain?

[Dogman]

Anything at all bypassing the oil industry gets canned or dead. EVERY TIME. No follow up stories of anything except death and suicide.

If something can be done, it will be done, and no matter the suppression tried will stop it, now especially in these days of easy information exchange called the internet.

If the info is correct and can be duplicated by others it will spread, if not it becomes a myth and some make a living being snake oil types selling vapor ideals.

[singular_me]

explosion engine models should be replaced with implosion systems... another inventor whose work was silenced

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IMPLOSION: Most energy sources in use today run on pressure. Like a steam engine, energy is used to boil water to make steam at high pressure. Then, that steam is released through the steam engine to make mechanical energy to run electric generators.

But Nature uses the opposite process. It uses a temperature drop to produce a spinning low pressure mechanism to produce a Tornado or a Hurricane. These storms release tremendous amounts of mechanical energy in the form of winds.

Viktor Schauberger studied these natural forces and developed working models of Implosive Turbine Engines in the 1940's. Few have followed up on his work.
http://free-energy.ws/implosion.html



What I don't like about what I see trending for cars is, electric vehicles. tptb can still control things if they hold the mines, rare earth minerals, battery factories. What I'd like to see is an ICE with someone pouring water into his tank and the engine burning H2... Just like guy who did it to his VW bug and he got killed off.....

[Dogman]

explosion engine models should be replaced with implosion systems

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IMPLOSION: Most energy sources in use today run on pressure. Like a steam engine, energy is used to boil water to make steam at high pressure. Then, that steam is released through the steam engine to make mechanical energy to run electric generators.

But Nature uses the opposite process. It uses a temperature drop to produce a spinning low pressure mechanism to produce a Tornado or a Hurricane. These storms release tremendous amounts of mechanical energy in the form of winds.

Viktor Schauberger studied these natural forces and developed working models of Implosive Turbine Engines in the 1940's. Few have followed up on his work.
http://free-energy.ws/implosion.html

Lady I like you because you make me think, but you sure have a major mojo new age mind and that is not a bad thing, but may I suggest that you do more research to acquire knowledge when you post.

Now to this thread, depending on practicality things can work with positive pressure or negative pressure or both! When it comes to turbines they depend on positive pressure to drive the turbine blades but also a back pressure after combustion and past the turbine to create a negative flow to allow more efficient draw of fuel to the positive side for positive combustion which adds pressure to flow through the turbine blades to the low pressure/exhaust side of the engine.

Most turbine driven engines blow, the only side that sucks/negative pressure is the air input of the compressors that supply the compressed air and then fuel for the combustion chambers that supply the hot pressurized gas of combustion to drive the turbine. Not quite what your post was about, pressure always flows from high to low, just like water. To harvest energy to do work takes advantage of ether the high pressure side or the low side, and sometimes both.

But nothing is truly free when it comes to energy.There is always a down side.

[singular_me]

give me a break, I am not a new ager, just seeking for the root of everything. However, since when talking about science is new age? Because that doesnt match your mainstream education?

look up on the internet yourself and you will see the implosion model has many supporters and modern applications already.

Viktor Schauberger has been suppressed, just like the Rife machine - Orgone Energy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItsSYwTSnTY


Lady I like you because you make me think, but you sure have a major mojo new age mind and that is not a bad thing, but may I suggest that you do more research to acquire knowledge when you post.

Now to this thread, depending on practicality things can work with positive pressure or negative pressure or both! When it comes to turbines they depend on positive pressure to drive the turbine blades but also a back pressure after combustion and past the turbine to create a negative flow to allow more efficient draw of fuel to the positive side for positive combustion which adds pressure to flow through the turbine blades to the low pressure/exhaust side of the engine.

Most turbine driven engines blow, the only side that sucks/negative pressure is the air input of the compressors that supply the compressed air and then fuel for the combustion chambers that supply the hot pressurized gas of combustion to drive the turbine. Not quite what your post was about, pressure always flows from high to low, just like water. To harvest energy to do work takes advantage of ether the high pressure side or the low side, and sometimes both.

But nothing is truly free when it comes to energy.There is always a down side.

[singular_me]

you should make a search before posting.

new age means nothing, all knowledge is universal

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Viktor Schauberger (1885-1958) made an extraordinary contribution to knowledge of the natural world. He intuited what we now recognise as the quantum or subtle energy effects of water. His understanding was built up from shamanic and experiential observation of Nature in the untamed Alpine wilderness. His motto: “Observe and Copy Nature”.


He was critical of textbook theory and the arrogance and lack of imagination of ‘experts’ and refused to go to college, believing that he would lose his intuitive gifts.
Schauberger was also gifted with engineering skills which are apparent in his environment-friendly technology and implosive energy devices designed to release people from enslavement to destructive sources of energy.He is celebrated for his discoveries in the water sciences, in agricultural techniques and in the energy domain – which energies enhance and which harm life.Schauberger provides us with a comprehensive and holistic approach to understanding Nature. His insights form the foundations of what might be called a ‘science of Nature’.


He found two forms of motion in Nature: outward, expanding flow that is used to break down, and inward-spiralling which Nature uses to build up and energise. We use the first to generate energy, which is why it is destructive to the environment.
http://schauberger.co.uk/



Viktor Schauberger was an Austrian inventor and naturalist who built and patented a water ram pump involving a spiral flow which he claimed to have learned from a visit to the Egyptian pyramid. Schauberger is considered the father of implosion technology. Many of his inventions are based on his study of fluidic vortexes

Viktor Schauberger - List of Patents (Issued in Austria)

113487 Construction for Creating Wild Brooks and Flow Regulation
122144 Artificial Channel for Transporting Logs
134543 Conduction of Water in Tubes & Channels
136214 Installation & Correction of Flow in Draining Channels
138296 Water Conduction
142032 Construction for Fabricating Tap Water
166644 Plow
196680 Tubing for Flowing & Gaseous Media


http://inventors.about.com/od/sstartinventors/a/Schauberger.htm

[singular_me]

he could very well be the father of military UFO technology, many think he is.

new age, huh?

explosion= pollution
implosion= working with nature

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Viktor Schauberger
(30.6.1885 - 25.9.1958)

Schauberger could be called the father of implosion technology. The implosion principle is of course diametrically opposite to what today's explosion oriented technology utilises. Implosion has to do with a self sustaining vortex flow of any liquid or gaseous medium, which has a concentrating, ordering effect and which decreases the temperature of the medium, in opposition to the dictates of 'modern' thermodynamics.

See my two articles Vortex - the Natural Movement and A new Beginning for Thermodynamics.

Viktor Schauberger constructed water sluices for the transport of logs which, with controlled water temperature and vortex flow were able to transport even logs of a high specific weight that normally cannot be transported on water.

He proposed a more effective means of utilising hydroelectric power by his jet turbine (see my article Dynamic Hydropower). In the Second World War he was forced to develop his concepts of vortex dynamics at the service of Hitler's SS and he is said to have produced working prototypes of levitating disks using these principles. At the end of the war, some of the remains of his work fell into Russian and partly into American military hands.
http://www.hasslberger.com/tecno/tecno_8.htm

[Santa]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItsSYwTSnTY

That was an inspiring video, singular. Thank you. Victor Schauberger was definitely onto something. Tremendous and heart lifting.
And that bit near the end where Schauberger is frustrated in Texas and suddenly signs over all rights on his patents and papers to an undisclosed US consortium just so he can go
back home to die 5 days later is, well, suggestive of infiltration, sabotage, probable assassination through poisoning... and hugely depressing.