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mick silver
22nd January 2015, 06:30 PM
The hunt for Red October gets easier. How submarine warfare is changingImproving technology could make it easier to find submarines. That's a threat to the US fleet – but it's also an opportunity for the Pentagon, a new report says.http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/nws/p/csm_logo_115.jpg (http://www.csmonitor.com/) By Anna Mulrine 1 hour ago








Today's submarines are in danger of becoming increasingly vulnerable as “game changers” in undersea warfare make it easier to detect them, a new report says.



Deep sea submarines have been a key part of the United States military (http://www.csmonitor.com/csmlists/topic/U.S.+Armed+Forces)’s offensive and defensive missions for decades, but a significant part of their utility lies in their ability to operate stealthily. To this end, the US military has invested huge amounts of money into making submarines – in particular, the Navy’s Virginia-class nuclear submarines – quieter.
But rapid increases in computer processing power are offsetting these advances. Submarine detection techniques that do not measure sounds but rather the wake left by submarines, for example, have been known for decades. But “they have not been exploitable until very recently because computer processors were too slow to run detailed models needed to see changes in the environment caused by a quiet submarine,” according to a report from the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments (http://www.csmonitor.com/csmlists/topic/Center+for+Strategic+%26+Budgetary+Assessments) (CSBA) released Thursday.
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Today, "big data" is providing the capability to run sophisticated oceanographic models in real time, making these detection techniques more feasible. As computer processors shrink, some will soon be small enough to fit on the sea floor. “These systems have the potential to make coastal areas far more hazardous for manned submarines,” the report notes.
What’s more, emerging acoustic techniques will get better. For example, computers could help find submarines by comparing the normal ambient noise from marine life and waves with measured noise, and in this way “identifying where sounds are being reflected off a submarine or obscured by its hull.”
This is both good and bad news for the US military’s undersea warfare programs. The same technologies that make submarines easier to detect could help spur a new generation of technology that the Pentagon (http://www.csmonitor.com/csmlists/topic/The+Pentagon) could use to its advantage.
For instance, next-generation submarines could fool sonar by emitting special sounds to drown out their own radiated noise, “similar to the method used in noise-canceling headphones,” the report notes. The US Navy (http://www.csmonitor.com/csmlists/topic/U.S.+Navy) could also use unmanned underwater drones to conduct acoustic jamming.
This points to a brand new realm for the military-industrial complex. “A new family of undersea vehicles and systems will be essential to maintain America (http://www.csmonitor.com/csmlists/topic/United+States)’s undersea edge,” the CSBA report argues. Failing to “aggressively exploit” the latent potential of these emerging technologies “could create an opening for rivals,” it warns, “and, in so doing, pose a major threat to US security.”
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Dogman
22nd January 2015, 06:41 PM
Another way is to use very sensitive satellites that can measure wave height, as a sub moves through water it displaces the water that it moves through. A large sub, a large displacement that will show at the surface as a traveling bulge. Subs move in a linear way through water that can be detected no mater how deep they are. What ever the total volume of the sub has, it will displace an equal amount of water as it moves.

Sorta like the critters in the movies 'Tremors' as they move in the earth and leave surface tracks or the movie 'dune', but applied to the sea's.

expat4ever
22nd January 2015, 11:18 PM
We already have a great method for detecting subs. As far as I know its next to impossible to hide from.

midnight rambler
22nd January 2015, 11:27 PM
We already have a great method for detecting subs. As far as I know its next to impossible to hide from.

Please elaborate.

Serpo
22nd January 2015, 11:39 PM
Please elaborate.

throwing rocks into the water and if they go ding .......................sub