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Ponce
27th January 2015, 08:40 AM
Please post link.....thanks
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Beloved 16-year-old girl shot and killed by Denver police
By: notforsale2nwo
Tags: CURRENT EVENTS
POLITICS/ELECTIONS/CORRUPTION
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A 16 year old girl named Jessica Hernandez was fatally shot by two Denver Police officers early Monday morning
Read more: whatreallyhappened.com http://whatreallyhappened.com/node#ixzz3Q2ZyNtdZ
Dogman
27th January 2015, 08:47 AM
The link you posted is like the EverReady bunny, when it comes to page length, it just keeps going and going!
But here is another site with the article.
https://www.intellihub.com/beloved-16-year-old-girl-shot-killed-denver-police/
monty
27th January 2015, 09:22 AM
More in the Denver Postp if you missed the link in the Intelhub article:
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_27394478/denver-police-shoot-2-suspects-critically-injuring-one
midnight rambler
27th January 2015, 09:30 AM
One of the biggest lies ever: the cops are there to *protect and serve* people and to 'keep the community safe'.
mick silver
27th January 2015, 09:33 AM
I didn't see that she had a gun , so why all the killing
Ponce
27th January 2015, 09:35 AM
Thanks guys but I can't go to link right now, thanks anyway :( ........ my land line connection wont let me do it.
V
madfranks
27th January 2015, 10:58 AM
DENVER, Colo. — A 16 year old girl named Jessica Hernandez was fatally shot by two Denver Police officers early Monday morning.
The young girl was driving a car that the police allege was stolen, and claim she hit an officer’s leg with the vehicle before both officers opened fire on the car containing four teenage girls and a teenage boy. It is unclear who reported the car stolen, who stole it, or who it belonged to. No information has been given on whether or not the vehicle belonged to a relative of one of the teens.
The department has stated that they do not know if Hernandez intentionally struck the officer, but this is the third time they have claimed to have shot someone in response to a vehicle being used as a weapon in less than seven months. The officer was treated and released from the hospital with a minor leg injury. Hernandez was reportedly unarmed.
Brianna Diaz, who lives in the house in front of the alley the shooting occurred in, told the Denver Post that her 16 year old sister was a passenger in the car Hernandez was driving.
Diaz told them that her mother ran out of the house after hearing the shots and was stopped by an officer who grabbed her and tried to calm her down.
“My mom told me to start filming, but when I took out my phone, the cop was like, ‘Don’t you dare!’ “ she told the Post.
Neighbors claim to have heard multiple gunshots, and the screams and cries of the teenagers. A video which was sent to the Denver Post allegedly shows the officers moving her limp, silent, and motionless body around like a rag-doll and searching her as she bled out. The officers proceeded to handcuff her body before any medical attention was given to the high school student.
madfranks
27th January 2015, 11:27 AM
Once I was accused by a cop for stealing plates, I was driving my '73 El Camino and my plates said "Truck" on them. And if you are following an El Camino, from behind it does look more like a car than a truck. The dumb shit cop pulled me over and asked me where I stole the plates. After I told him I had no idea what he was talking about, he cursed at me, told me not to lie, that lying to a cop could get you arrested, and asked again where I stole the plates. I seriously had no idea what he was talking about, and he got angry, told me he saw these were truck plates, so he knows they don't belong to me. I looked over my shoulder, to the rear of the El Camino, and told him that this is an El Camino, which is a Chevy Truck. He let me go, but I'm really lucky he didn't bump his knee on my fender, accuse me of attacking him with my vehicle, and shoot me to death.
Ponce
27th January 2015, 11:49 AM
Thanks frank, I was working for this company that went on strike and I was the first and only one that went to work on the first day, one of the strike, someone hit my pick up with his knee and then filed a report against me for a hit and run.....lucky for me the company had three cameramen on top of the building filming it all and they were able to film the guy banging his leg against my truck......what prevents a cop from doing the same thing?
V
Dogman
27th January 2015, 12:00 PM
Thanks frank, I was working for this company that went on strike and I was the first and only one that went to work on the first day, one of the strike, someone hit my pick up with his knee and then filed a report against me for a hit and run.....lucky for me the company had three cameramen on top of the building filming it all and they were able to film the guy banging his leg against my truck......what prevents a cop from doing the same thing?
V
They also probably called you a ' scab' also! Back in the 60' s there were some deadly strikes at lone star steel that people got shot.
I have never worked a union job, nor crossed any picket lines, but twice in lousyanna ( no misspelling) back in the day was called a scab and then the fight was on!
Good times !
Android Forum Runner
madfranks
27th January 2015, 06:07 PM
Thanks frank, I was working for this company that went on strike and I was the first and only one that went to work on the first day, one of the strike, someone hit my pick up with his knee and then filed a report against me for a hit and run.....lucky for me the company had three cameramen on top of the building filming it all and they were able to film the guy banging his leg against my truck......what prevents a cop from doing the same thing?
V
I live in close to Denver and the Narrative repeated over and over today on the news is that the girl attacked the cops by charging at them with her vehicle, causing them to fear for their lives, which is why they all opened fire on the car filled with high school age girls. Of course the narrative is bull shit, if anything the girl got scared as hell and panicked, crashing the car. I'm bothered that most people will believe hook line and sinker the narrative, without thinking of what really likely happened.
Dogman
27th January 2015, 06:15 PM
I live in close to Denver and the Narrative repeated over and over today on the news is that the girl attacked the cops by charging at them with her vehicle, causing them to fear for their lives, which is why they all opened fire on the car filled with high school age girls. Of course the narrative is bull shit, if anything the girl got scared as hell and panicked, crashing the car. I'm bothered that most people will believe hook line and sinker the narrative, without thinking of what really likely happened.
A few days ago.
Next town over a 17 year old girl went to the cop shop at night lobby not manned. Has a red phone on the wall to get attentions, she asked to see an officer, three showed up. They said she threatened them with a knife.
They filled her with lead!
http://www.kltv.com/story/27940957/preliminary-autopsy-report-rules-teen-died-of-multiple-gunshot-wounds
http://kltv.images.worldnow.com/images/6538633_G.jpg
Young girl with knife and they shoot to kill, no tazers no nothing but deadly force.
Three of them against one scrawny girl.
Other links, story is getting around.
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=17+year+old+girl+killed+by+longview+ police&tbm=nws
Hitch
27th January 2015, 06:20 PM
I live in close to Denver and the Narrative repeated over and over today on the news is that the girl attacked the cops by charging at them with her vehicle, causing them to fear for their lives, which is why they all opened fire on the car filled with high school age girls. Of course the narrative is bull shit,.
I too have a hard time believing a car full of teenage girls would attack cops by charging at them with a car.
A car is a deadly weapon. However, the times I've heard of this happening, it was a seriously violent felon, who was cornered and had no other options. It takes major balls to go at cops that way. It's an I'm going down, and I'm taking you with me, action. Teenage girls don't do shit like that.
Ponce
27th January 2015, 08:35 PM
My now long lost "buddy" must be proud of his friends in blue......right Crimethink?
V
Neuro
27th January 2015, 11:44 PM
If they hit the cop on the leg it was because she was afraid and not in full control of the car. But a cops life is worth a thousand of those they are put on the streets to protect and serve. Was he put on payed leave so he could take family to Vegas and Disneyland?
mick silver
28th January 2015, 04:38 AM
if cops are so scare they need to find a new job , no reason to work a job and be scare and have to kill every thing you see
madfranks
28th January 2015, 07:33 AM
I too have a hard time believing a car full of teenage girls would attack cops by charging at them with a car.
A car is a deadly weapon. However, the times I've heard of this happening, it was a seriously violent felon, who was cornered and had no other options. It takes major balls to go at cops that way. It's an I'm going down, and I'm taking you with me, action. Teenage girls don't do shit like that.
If you saw the picture after the incident, the car had wrecked into a fence, which makes me believe she was panicking and crashed it. Yes she hit a cop, but I don't know that it was intentional.
Again, this story is the buzz this morning on the local talk radio, and every single caller along with the host is 100% with the cops, I mean, how can a criminal who might have been armed* who stole a car and tried to murder an officer by ramming him with the stolen car deserve anything but death?? And nobody seems to care that the car was full of other teenage girls who were innocent of anything who might have been shot and killed.
*Yes, they're using the line "it is not known if the suspect was armed or not", to make people think that maybe this violent car jacker was armed.
Dogman
28th January 2015, 07:43 AM
At one time cop's mostly were good, then the brain washing/ programming with all the cop shows showing cop's fighting ' evil' going on for years!
Only recently the msm has been showing the dark side and waking up to their evil !
IMO!
7th trump
28th January 2015, 07:56 AM
So in the end you people praise the criminal?
And you wonder why theres going to be a divine judgment against each and every one of you....never the less you'll all bitch and moan about that too.....the nashing of teeth against God.
You've definately lost your way between right and wrong....the world is corrupt to its core.
I guess if you dont want to get shot you dont panick driving a stolen car that appears to the "innocent" cops to be trying to take them out.
Mean while the cops doing their job of retreiving stolen property from criminals to return it to the rightful owners....are the bad guys.
This idiot criminal deserves what she gets.
I'd unload on the stupid criminal bitch if I was a cop doing my job if the car came at me also....how am I to know if the criminal is panicking or trying to evade capture by vehicle homocide?
Its obvious the criminal doesnt give a rats ass about the law or others.
She (the criminal) committed suicide by cop.....just another Darwin award.
She makes you feel proud doesnt she Ponce?
I bet if the stolen car was Ponces car he'd have a totally different view of this criminal.
EE_
28th January 2015, 08:15 AM
Some of the worse places for you to be today...standing near a crime taking place, being near a wanted criminal, being in a car unknowingly with a wanted criminal, or one person committing a crime, being in a hostage situation, driving the same make vehicle as a fleeing criminal.
A person in any of these scenarios in today's world of shoot first, ask questions later, is considered, or called "collateral damage".
Don't be collateral damage!
Hitch
28th January 2015, 09:10 AM
The question I have, is that if a car is coming at you in a deadly force manner, if you shoot the driver, isn't the car still coming at you? I've never been able to figure out this question, because I've always thought instead of taking the time to shoot, that time would be better spent trying to get the heck out of the way.
The one car driver cop shooting I know of personally, was when the cop's partner shot the driver. The cop, the target of the car driver, was trying to get out of the way. The partner saw what was happening and fired. The driver was the only person in the car, no other possible victims.
So, how do both cops take the time to shoot, into a car full of passengers? This story really stinks. These questions should be answered, imo.
EE_
28th January 2015, 09:21 AM
The question I have, is that if a car is coming at you in a deadly force manner, if you shoot the driver, isn't the car still coming at you? I've never been able to figure out this question, because I've always thought instead of taking the time to shoot, that time would be better spent trying to get the heck out of the way.
The one car driver cop shooting I know of personally, was when the cop's partner shot the driver. The cop, the target of the car driver, was trying to get out of the way. The partner saw what was happening and fired. The driver was the only person in the car, no other possible victims.
So, how do both cops take the time to shoot, into a car full of passengers? This story really stinks. These questions should be answered, imo.
Because it's more fun to stop the threat then it is to avoid a threat? Are cops trained to avoid threats?
Hitch
28th January 2015, 09:28 AM
Because it's more fun to stop the threat then it is to avoid a threat? Are cops trained to avoid threats?
My point was shooting the driver of a car coming at you, is not stopping or avoiding the threat. The threat is the car. It is still coming at you. Bullets may kill the driver, but they ain't stopping the car.
EE_
28th January 2015, 09:34 AM
My point was shooting the driver of a car coming at you, is not stopping or avoiding the threat. The threat is the car. It is still coming at you. Bullets may kill the driver, but they ain't stopping the car.
If someone is using their car as a deadly weapon, one can wonder what they may do next?
What if the driver was crazed and went on a deadly rampage killing many people after missing killing you and you had a small window to stop that? Would you wish you would have fired in the first place? Not a call I'd want to have had made.
Did the cops know they were teenage girls when they fired on them?
reststop
28th January 2015, 09:36 AM
Appears the penalties for being young and stupid have increased some.
rest
madfranks
28th January 2015, 09:46 AM
So in the end you people praise the criminal?
You, 7th trump, are not the judge, jury and executioner of this teenage girl. It hasn't even been confirmed yet that the car she was driving actually was stolen or not, didn't you read the story??
The announcement comes a day after Denver police shot and killed a 17-year-old girl who they say was in a stolen car that struck and injured an officer.
The car matched the description of a stolen car, and all the officers approached this vehicle, the driver panicked (why? We don't know because she's dead now), tried to get away and clipped a cop. Was this intentional? Was it an accident? If an accident, did she deserve to be shot to death over it? If it is the stolen car, is that worth killing her over?
Let's turn the table a bit. Say one day in your neighborhood, 7th trump, that someone else stole a car that happens to match your car. Say it's early in the AM and you're sitting in your car waiting for it to warm up, sipping coffee, when suddenly you see a group of people rushing your vehicle. You don't recognize that they are cops, because it's early, your instincts kick in and you hit the gas to get away. In your panic, you clip one of the individuals who is rushing you, and then you panic even more and crash your car into a fence. Then the group of men who rushed you open fire and riddle your body with lead and kill you. Then they make up a story about how you attacked them in what they think is the stolen car, and they didn't know if you were armed or not so they feared for their lives and killed you. Then all the news media reports the story and everyone thinks you're a criminal who deserved to die.
7th trump
28th January 2015, 09:58 AM
You, 7th trump, are not the judge, jury and executioner of this teenage girl. It hasn't even been confirmed yet that the car she was driving actually was stolen or not, didn't you read the story??
The car matched the description of a stolen car, and all the officers approached this vehicle, the driver panicked (why? We don't know because she's dead now), tried to get away and clipped a cop. Was this intentional? Was it an accident? If an accident, did she deserve to be shot to death over it? If it is the stolen car, is that worth killing her over?
Let's turn the table a bit. Say one day in your neighborhood, 7th trump, that someone else stole a car that happens to match your car. Say it's early in the AM and you're sitting in your car waiting for it to warm up, sipping coffee, when suddenly you see a group of people rushing your vehicle. You don't recognize that they are cops, because it's early, your instincts kick in and you hit the gas to get away. In your panic, you clip one of the individuals who is rushing you, and then you panic even more and crash your car into a fence. Then the group of men who rushed you open fire and riddle your body with lead and kill you. Then they make up a story about how you attacked them in what they think is the stolen car, and they didn't know if you were armed or not so they feared for their lives and killed you. Then all the news media reports the story and everyone thinks you're a criminal who deserved to die.
Hahahaha.....you assume a lot there Franks.....hahaha....as if the cops open fire just because its a stolen car....you dont know this and from the action the cops didnt open fire UNTIL the car was directed at them. A car with the pedle to the medal is quicker than any human can react.
You need to take the permit to carry gun course. In that course they tell you theres only a split second to decide to judge to take action in stopping a threat of death.
These cops arent guilty...they were merely reacting as anyone should or would. They dont know if the car is directed at them and can only take what action they seem to need to stop the threat.
For all they know the car is directed at them...and why is the criminal running if there isnt any criminal presumption?
You criminal appeasers crack me up!
And yes I am a judge....there is no jury in this split second to decide....keep emotions out of it by NOT injecting theres a jury in this...there isnt a jury at all.
Hitch
28th January 2015, 10:25 AM
If someone is using their car as a deadly weapon, one can wonder what they may do next?
What if the driver was crazed and went on a deadly rampage killing many people after missing killing you and you had a small window to stop that? Would you wish you would have fired in the first place? Not a call I'd want to have had made.
All good questions. What if the guy was just trying to escape though? Say, you chase him, he's trying to get away, then he plows into a bunch of pedestrians. What if you crash your car and kill someone chasing him?
This is why being a cop can be a real challenge. You don't know how things are going to play out at the time, you just do the best you can with the situation you are in. And, all situations are different. There's no right answer, there's just the best choice available.
madfranks
28th January 2015, 10:55 AM
Hahahaha.....you assume a lot there Franks.....hahaha....as if the cops open fire just because its a stolen car....you dont know this and from the action the cops didnt open fire UNTIL the car was directed at them. A car with the pedle to the medal is quicker than any human can react.
You need to take the permit to carry gun course. In that course they tell you theres only a split second to decide to judge to take action in stopping a threat of death.
These cops arent guilty...they were merely reacting as anyone should or would. They dont know if the car is directed at them and can only take what action they seem to need to stop the threat.
For all they know the car is directed at them...and why is the criminal running if there isnt any criminal presumption?
You criminal appeasers crack me up!
And yes I am a judge....there is no jury in this split second to decide....keep emotions out of it by NOT injecting theres a jury in this...there isnt a jury at all.
You're assuming a lot there too, and you think your assumptions are worthy of sentencing that girl to death.
If one day you try to cross the street and a car doesn't see you and is coming at you, will you shoot them? And then justify it because he was trying to kill you?
7th trump
28th January 2015, 11:10 AM
You're assuming a lot there too, and you think your assumptions are worthy of sentencing that girl to death.
If one day you try to cross the street and a car doesn't see you and is coming at you, will you shoot them? And then justify it because he was trying to kill you?
Yes and no.....depends on what you are trying to say.
No, cause I dont wear a police uniform. And if its out of the norm...it could be a just an out of control vehicle.
However, if I knew the vehicle and driver behind a car thats charging me knowing they earlier threatened my life....yes....by all means I'll unload on the driver as the car is now being used as a weapon to take a life......the law is the law no matter how you dislike it Franks....get over it!
Sure...shooting the driver isnt stopping the car ....but stopping the driver ensures the driver cant control the car any longer....stopping the threat.
And No.... my assumptions are based on what happened....like the cops not pulling the trigger until the car came at them. Clearly the stupid broad knew they were cops and tried to flee.
If you are going to steal a car....man up when the time comes to pay the piper...or dont stral a car in the first place.
This is classic suicide by cop darwinism award.
mick silver
28th January 2015, 04:33 PM
I don't know what to say 7th , I just hope an pray my kids never met someone wanting to kill them the way we are seeing cops doing theys days . killing someone is something you have to live with every day of your life good are bad
Horn
28th January 2015, 05:15 PM
There's no right answer, there's just the best choice available.
more and more lately it appears the answer is to fill it full of holes first to achieve administration's leave, and questions later.
Basically when you really can't be prosecuted the same as everyone else the choice to fire is a much easier one.
All cops (if any) should be of the volunteer type, paid next to nothing, and treated as equals.
They've broken the Constitution while claiming to defend it.
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