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singular_me
3rd February 2015, 06:12 AM
and one wonders why healthcare costs/insurances are skyrocketing ???

enough to boycott industrial meat production, I guess
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Jan. 26, 2015
‘Every time you eat, you’re rolling the germ dice. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 1 in 6 Americans contracts a foodborne illness annually; 128,000 are hospitalized, and 3,000 die. Pathogens from meat kill more people than those from any other food group. A CDC study found that between 1998 and 2008, contaminated meat was responsible for 29 percent of all deaths from foodborne illness (23 percent of deaths were from produce, 15 percent from dairy and eggs, and 6.4 percent from fish and shellfish).’

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2015/01/which-cut-meat-safest-pathogens

aeondaze
3rd February 2015, 06:14 AM
Always has and probably always will, nothing to see here, move along...

singular_me
3rd February 2015, 06:25 AM
HAHAHA... you really have a block... meat that is massively injected with antibiotics and other hormones is surely good for your health. LOL we even have GMO cows now.

you have nothing useful to say. You are in completely denial that we are being poisoned and that the whole conventional food chain is an absolute mass killer



Always has and probably always will, nothing to see here, move along...

Shami-Amourae
3rd February 2015, 06:28 AM
Chicken is injected with arsenic so the cells retain more water.

aeondaze
3rd February 2015, 06:42 AM
HAHAHA... you really have a block... meat that is massively injected with antibiotics and other hormones is surely good for your health. LOL we even have GMO cows now.

you have nothing useful to say. You are in completely denial that we are being poisoned and that the whole conventional food chain is an absolute mass killer


Maybe your meat, but there has been a concerted effort to eliminate these things in my country. They are only used when necessitated, they are not a 'normal' part of animal feeds here.

Same goes with chicken. No arsenic, hormones or antibiotics in the regular feeding regimen.

Sucks to be you guys, sorry.:confused:

singular_me
3rd February 2015, 07:39 AM
one more to chew on...

when I eat meat once or twice monthly, i buy strictly organic and eat it raw... never got sick in 25 years

its like selling eggs that have been washed, and as a result lose their natural anti-bacterial barrier http://io9.com/americans-why-do-you-keep-refrigerating-your-eggs-1465309529 ... all good for salmonella



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Ares
3rd February 2015, 08:19 AM
When I lived back in Indiana I had access to farm raised beef, chicken (meat and eggs), and pig. But now that I've moved to North Carolina I've exhausted my supply and haven't had a chance to go back home to stock up... What I do miss about living in my home state.

Shami-Amourae
3rd February 2015, 08:26 AM
When I lived back in Indiana I had access to farm raised beef, chicken (meat and eggs), and pig. But now that I've moved to North Carolina I've exhausted my supply and haven't had a chance to go back home to stock up... What I do miss about living in my home state.

You can buy some reasonably priced organic/grass-fed meats online here with free shipping:
http://www.texasgrassfedbeef.com/

This is a good place to get cheap(er) grass-fed raw cheeses, and bones for making bone broth.

Keep in mind real food costs a lot since in America we are so used to cheap food. This is the best priced for the quality I've found online so far.

I am kind of lucky though since my local grocery store sells grass-fed beef, pastured chicken, and real organic eggs (the non-vegetarian kind with the orange yolks.)

I'm able to get all of this stuff anyways at local farmers market in warm months. A local grocery store sells a lot of this stuff, (along with ammo), but its always cheaper to buy it at the farmers market. Some of the farmers there know me by name and vice versa.

singular_me
3rd February 2015, 09:12 AM
in your country? where do you live?

and if true in your country, one exception does make such facts incorrect. The west is being poisoned, there even are chemtrails in europe among other things

sucks to be you, guys... just keep on with your denial




Maybe your meat, but there has been a concerted effort to eliminate these things in my country. They are only used when necessitated, they are not a 'normal' part of animal feeds here.

Same goes with chicken. No arsenic, hormones or antibiotics in the regular feeding regimen.

Sucks to be you guys, sorry.:confused:

palani
3rd February 2015, 11:41 AM
With current meat packer methods one infected animal can be sold to thousands of consumers. Back in the '60s in Iowa every town had a mama papa meat locker. You brought in the animal you wanted slaughtered and that was the one you got back. Then Iowa decided they would have to hire too many inspectors for regulating all those lockers ... they passed laws saying every locker must have stainless everything. Lot of these small outfits couldn't afford those sort of costs so they simply folded ... leaving the field wide open to meat packers and selling through grocery stores. The legislation was pro packer and anti small business. In the original mode if anyone got sick it was the family or anyone they cared to donate meat to. Now thousands have an opportunity to be made ill.

Good luck with that. It hasn't worked so far.

singular_me
3rd February 2015, 11:53 AM
the thousands are mainly the food stamp/low income crowds... those who earn more are generally better informed, and buy better quality/organic foods


The legislation was pro packer and anti small business. In the original mode if anyone got sick it was the family or anyone they cared to donate meat to. Now thousands have an opportunity to be made ill.

Good luck with that. It hasn't worked so far.

mick silver
3rd February 2015, 12:13 PM
palani we still have that here were you take you whole animal and get back what you took , nothing like what you raise for your family

palani
3rd February 2015, 12:21 PM
palani we still have that here were you take you whole animal and get back what you took , nothing like what you raise for your family

There are still locker plants here too and can dicker with farmers for local raised beef and hogs. Now there is probably a locker plant every 20-30 towns where before each town had its own.

Glass
3rd February 2015, 03:13 PM
Just on the question of Grass fed beef, There was a video story on this and they were saying that even though an animal was grass fed they were often finished off on Grains. When they ship them to the market they bulk them up on grains. While going from market to slaughterhouse it was the same. So the people were saying that you loose all that benefit of grass feeding in those last weeks or months because they bulk them up on grains.

Grains is a loose term for all kinds of crap dried and mixed in. In the US it means animal offal, aspartame and maybe some actual grain.

If it's real organic and grass fed to the end that would be ok.

I think if you buy your meat through any of the food processors then you are getting meat with chemicals in it. Unless it's grown organic and you can see that it is, there is going to be some chemicals in there. I don't think it matters where you live. They all do it now. So if you think you are in the clear you should probably go check.

Even the ones that say they don't and say they free range are doing it. We have several big chicken producers who claim free range but their chickens are just in bigger cages. Not ranging free at all.

Things are really sick when the problem is hidden, people keep dying and no one does anything to fix the problem.

singular_me
3rd February 2015, 08:39 PM
I dont have the answer for this but i worked (fencing repairs, irrigation and moving cattle from area to another) on 2 grass fed cattle ranches and I never saw any grains.

here in the area there is a native pueblo raising bisons and I get my meat from them, they process/slaughter them and freeze the meat on the spot. The animals are pasturing 24/7. I dont think I can get more organic than that.

Grains are really not good for cattle's digestive system as they are ruminant, and that would means that they are kinda sick when slaughtered. Let alone those fed on grains every day...





Just on the question of Grass fed beef, There was a video story on this and they were saying that even though an animal was grass fed they were often finished off on Grains. When they ship them to the market they bulk them up on grains. While going from market to slaughterhouse it was the same. So the people were saying that you loose all that benefit of grass feeding in those last weeks or months because they bulk them up on grains.

Grains is a loose term for all kinds of crap dried and mixed in. In the US it means animal offal, aspartame and maybe some actual grain.

If it's real organic and grass fed to the end that would be ok.

I think if you buy your meat through any of the food processors then you are getting meat with chemicals in it. Unless it's grown organic and you can see that it is, there is going to be some chemicals in there. I don't think it matters where you live. They all do it now. So if you think you are in the clear you should probably go check.

Even the ones that say they don't and say they free range are doing it. We have several big chicken producers who claim free range but their chickens are just in bigger cages. Not ranging free at all.

Things are really sick when the problem is hidden, people keep dying and no one does anything to fix the problem.

Glass
3rd February 2015, 08:46 PM
it might have been that farmer guy who was doing the mobile chicken runs and things like that.