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singular_me
12th February 2015, 11:25 AM
how bad can it get... indeed
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It's not just smart TVs. Your home is full of gadgets that spy on you: How internet giants are collecting your personal data through their high-tech devices
11 February 2015

There is no doubt that many viewers find voice recognition a welcome addition, but its darker side was revealed this week when a hawk-eyed U.S. journalist found the following sentence in Samsung’s surely misnamed ‘privacy’ policy.

‘Please be aware that if your spoken words include personal or other sensitive information, that information will be among the data captured and transmitted to a third party through your use of voice recognition.’

The TV itself is programmed to understand certain phrases, such as ‘turn on’, but it can also record everything else that is said in the room.

The idea that your most private conversations could be shared with anyone whom the unaccountable Samsung sees fit is highly disturbing to say the least.

And it’s not just television sets. It emerged yesterday that millions of Britons are being spied on by Microsoft’s voice-activated Xbox games consoles, which can listen in to everything around them.

In its privacy policy, Microsoft states that it is ‘only interested in your voice commands to Xbox, which we capture along with any ambient background noise. If you give Microsoft permission, we record commands whether you are online or offline’.

The company says it stores this data and, under its privacy policy, states that it can share it with ‘affiliates and vendors’.

However, despite Microsoft’s assurances that the data is safe, one has only to look at how Xbox’s Live Platform servers were brought down by hackers on Christmas Day to realise that our data is far from secure.

These spies in our living rooms are chillingly comparable to a passage in the novel Nineteen Eighty-Four, in which every home in George Orwell’s terrifying vision of a constantly monitored future is equipped with an all-seeing ‘telescreen’.

‘There was, of course, no way of knowing whether you were being watched at any given moment,’ wrote Orwell in the book that was published in 1949.

And, just like those fictional ‘telescreens’, many smart TV sets today don’t just have ears, but they also have eyes, in the form of cameras used for facial recognition, which are designed to allow only specific people to watch the set.

Facial recognition is a technology that seems to improve constantly: for example, the software can recognise individuals by comparing the lengths between specific points on their faces — such as the distances between our ears, or between our eyes and mouth.

In its privacy policy, Samsung states that images of your face are not sent over the internet, but why should we take such claims on trust? Likewise, even if we turn off the voice recognition function, how can we be sure they are not recording what we say anyway.

Just look at the recent case of a smart TV sold by South Korean tech giant LG, which continued to monitor users’ viewing habits, even when they had disabled the relevant feature.....

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2950081/It-s-not-just-smart-TVs-home-gadgets-spy-internet-giants-collecting-personal-data-high-tech-devices.html#ixzz3RYW4SZDW

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Stopping a Smart TV From Eavesdropping On You Could Be a Felony
Feb. 10 2015 1:55 PM

Most smart TVs’ core operating systems are based on the open-source software Linux. According to Linux’s license, companies are supposed to provide customers with a copy of the source code and the ability to install a modified version. But many smart TVs have violated that license.

To make matters worse, high-level users who want to take their smart TVs apart to see how they work or to attempt to disable or modify the underlying software—for example, to disable the eavesdropping software, or make modifications to make captions easier to read for the visually impaired—could face felony charges under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.

That’s because most smart TVs on the market have taken technological measures to prevent users from accessing or modifying firmware in order to prevent illegal copying and distribution of copyrighted material. But users could technically face felony charges for circumventing lockdown restrictions—even if the modifications they’re trying to make are legal under copyright law.’

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2015/02/10/samsung_s_smarttv_disabling_its_eavesdropping_coul d_violate_dmca.html

Twisted Titan
12th February 2015, 01:31 PM
Right up there with Amazon Alexa.....

PatColo
16th March 2017, 12:45 PM
Right up there with Amazon Alexa.....


... or joogle's competing new home spy device, "Home" I think it's called?

check this.... < 2 mins:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuokQU0YVIY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuokQU0YVIY

Dachsie
16th March 2017, 12:50 PM
Smart people don't own no smart nuthin.

monty
16th March 2017, 02:35 PM
Smart people don't own no smart nuthin.

That should include the smart meter.

Dachsie
16th March 2017, 02:45 PM
I do include the Smart meter. I stopped my city electric smart meter and pay $10 a month to have the analog meter. Never was able to make sure they wont put a smart gas meter on my house by I am watching it like a hawk.

The darn meter readers always leave the gate open and let dogs out but they just are never responsible for that.

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Recently had Google Fiber installed in Austin and in my neighborhood. I tried to fight it and have for years fought all dumb stuff like all the Smart this and Smart that.

Here is an excerpt from a local meet-up group on this subject...

"I recently found out the hard way that once a Google Fiber box in installed ON your home, it is considered a utility and can never be removed. I called Google and then the city and found that out. The man at the city said you can still get the smart meters taken off if your'e using Austin Energy for electricity because it is a wifi signal. City man also said the Spector service (renamed from Time Warner) I opted for is a wifi signal and that Google Fiber is truly hardwired. I asked Google and the city what was in that Google Box and they did not know. Neither knew about the installation of thousands of new antennae necessary for the Google 5G system to work, which I suspect could be embedded in that GoogleBoogiebox now on my home. I think it would be good for us to have a program on this very subject with experts well versed in the technology and research into the physical. behavioral and psychological effects of all these artificially high electromagnetic frequency beams we are being bombarded with... especially in our own dear Austin, which has been googlefried and wifi'ed from the inside out. Some of these waves we consent to (to be "smarter"? as in phones,appliances but not high definition tv's,which Obama gave us) and some we gave no permission for and are imposed on us by controllers. spies and carbon tax enforcers. Remember Vault 7.

I hope someone or group without children or grandkids nurtures and promotes this very important issue affecting us all as their baby. It would be like having something other than yourself to be responsible for that would rely on you for sustenance and training, while providing you with fulfillment and purpose in life. I am very busy helping grandchildren and my recently widowed daughter and practicing my gospel act with Brother Tim that will soon premier at a Threadgill's Sunday Gospel Brunch. Someone needs to especially warn the young people that have a long way to go and all ages about the present frequency threats before none of them (or us) can even LOOK UP, remember anything or think straight. "

old steel
16th March 2017, 02:47 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C61IPGLU8AAOWc8.jpg

Ares
16th March 2017, 03:49 PM
Can always institute a block at the router. Create a rule that any traffic from smart TV MAC address is not allowed outside. Most newer T.V.s are "smart T.V.s" but I also administer my own firewall, so no traffic is allowed in or out to that MAC address.

Once the MAC address is not allowed outside, all "smart TV" functionality is disabled. Voice, Netflix,. I use the built in DLNA player as I have a media server with the kids movies / shows on it. So internally (LAN) traffic will work fine. If anyone here has a smart T.V. and wants help setting that rule up on their router feel free to send me a Private Message and I'll do what I can to help.


However, despite Microsoft’s assurances that the data is safe, one has only to look at how Xbox’s Live Platform servers were brought down by hackers on Christmas Day to realise that our data is far from secure.

That is disenginuous at best. A DDoS attack is not the same as a data breach.

monty
16th March 2017, 04:00 PM
Can always institute a block at the router. Create a rule that any traffic from smart TV MAC address is not allowed outside. Most newer T.V.s are "smart T.V.s" but I also administer my own firewall, so no traffic is allowed in or out to that MAC address.

Do newer appliances communicate with the smart meter? If they do their traffic probably doesn't use the local network, or am I wrong?

Ares
16th March 2017, 04:05 PM
Do newer appliances communicate with the smart meter? If they do their traffic probably doesn't use the local network, or am I wrong? [/COLOR]

Electrical companies have set up their own network for the "smart meters". They don't connect to your network equipment. I don't know what band smart meters use, I'd have to read some documentation on it, but it technically could be jammed depending on the band that is used will determine the power that is needed to jam it.

Horn
16th March 2017, 04:06 PM
What they need is like a giant sock, this could be sold as a giant condom protector with the side benefit of muffling eavesdroppers.

StreetsOfGold
16th March 2017, 04:11 PM
SMART = SPY
Spy phone, Spy TV, Spy meter, etc.

PatColo
23rd August 2017, 07:15 AM
vlogger The Outer Light, <9 mins,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yHp0dgo9yA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yHp0dgo9yA

Published on Aug 23, 2017
Future BBC iPlayer could tell who is in the room and notice when the children have gone to bed.

The BBC is developing a new version of the iPlayer that harnesses artificial intelligence, with the potential for your television to 'spy' on the household and tell who is in a room.