Space thread. Loads of pics.

[expat4ever]

This is a thread for all space related stuff. Time related is also welcome or as some like to refer to it, space time.
Most of the photos I post in the beginning will be from the hubble site. You can go to it and there is loads of photos and even a section for you to download and print from if you want photos on the wall.

Some people like my daughter dont know a world without hubble. I think its been up there for 25 years now and the discoveries and photos are nothing short of amazing.

Its funny how our perspectives have changed over the uears. 1st we had flat earth, then round earth, then the earth was the center of the universe, then the sun, then the solar system and at one time we thought the universe was only our galaxy. Now we can see almost to the edge of the universe.
That being said whats next? I mean there's still a shotload to discover in our universe of course but we have only really known the boundaries of it for about 25 years. Less than 100 years ago Hubble discovered a star in another galaxy which changed our perception of our galaxy being the only one. Less than 100 years later we now know there are billions of galaxies. In 1987 or 88 we found the first exo planet. Now we know of at least 700 confirms and possibly as many as 2000 unconfirmed. In 100 years what will we know? Is it possible our universe is only 1 of billions of universes? As carzy as that sounds its certaionly no crazier than peoples beliefs in the past. We are only getting started in our persuit of discovery.

One thing I wish would change is instead of funding the military industrial complex we should be funding space exploration. If there's one thing the world could get behind its the exploration of space. Lets colonize the moon and mars and go from there. Hubble only cost us about a billion back when it was made. We could have built 100 of them by now for only a fraction of what our 700 billion military budget today.
On that thought, I also think we need to be building scopes. 10, 20 or even 50 at a time. The first one costs a billion because we put 100's of millions into R&D. We probably could have built 100 hubbles for 30 billion. How about we cut the military budget in 1/2 and use the savings to create space related jobs. Just some food for thought. Lets save the military spending cuts debate for another thread.

Here's some photos and I'll also post links and videos in the future. 7308730973107311

[expat4ever]

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[expat4ever]

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That should be enough to get your interest. I will post the link for the hubble photo website next.

[expat4ever]

http://hubblesite.org/gallery/

Thats where I got all the photos from. No copyrights on the photos. You can download and use as you want as long as you dont sell them I think. There's also videos on there and hi res scans for better photo quality prints. One section even has scans so you can do wall murals if your so inclined.

[expat4ever]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwHTMcV-k74

This video channel has live webcasts so if you want to you can watch live and interact and ask the people working on the hubble projects questions.

[expat4ever]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKyqNYQtGmY
Bout 1/2 way through this one and its pretty good. Shows what they call Fermi bubbles coming from the center of the galaxy. Reminds me of the thing(Taurus maybe? ) in the thrive movie.
Since I'm only 1/2 way through I dont know if they will adress this but the make up is carbon, silicon and aluminum. All created in stars. So the black holes eat the stars, kick the material back out so it can again make new stars? Just a hypothesis but new star formation is normally found on the outer edges of galaxies and the older stars are nearer the center.

[Horn]

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7322&stc=1

One a daughter might appreciate.

Above : M2-9 Bipolar Nebula, an example of an electrical Z-pinch : NASA, Hubble Heritage

http://www.paulmalone.co.uk/plasmatalk/

[Glass]

there can't be any wind in space. It's a vacuum isn't it?

[expat4ever]

Yes there is wind in space. Daily solar wind readings are taken by satellites around Earth. Not sure which one, maybe soho? I should clarify though, I am not sure what the solar wind is. Obviously not air.
However if the center of the galaxy is ejecting aluminum, solicon and carbon that must be going someplace. They also say that everything that we are at one time came from an exploding star. That could have been in another galaxy or right here in our own.

[Glass]

but are those milky way winds solar winds?

[expat4ever]

I'm guessing that the solar winds are originating from our sun hence the term "Solar" winds. There are galactic winds as well. They did speak a bit about them in the video. From what I gathered the winds are gases that are ejected from the black holes or suns.

[Silver Rocket Bitches!]

On July 15th this year, we will have our first true pictures of Pluto when the New Horizons spacecraft does its flyby.

This is the best we have right now.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7325&stc=1

[Dogman]

On July 15th this year, we will have our first true pictures of Pluto when the New Horizons spacecraft does its flyby.

This is the best we have right now.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7325&stc=1

I do not resemble anyway, what that picture shows !

No way near that round !

;)

[Horn]

I'm guessing that the solar winds are originating from our sun hence the term "Solar" winds. There are galactic winds as well. They did speak a bit about them in the video. From what I gathered the winds are gases that are ejected from the black holes or suns.

Maybe those are the vacuum bags we were all looking for in the vacuum... lol

[mick silver]

are maybe that's all there going to let us see for now
On July 15th this year, we will have our first true pictures of Pluto when the New Horizons spacecraft does its flyby.

This is the best we have right now.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7325&stc=1

[singular_me]

some on here would assert that the vacuum is a strange thing :)


there can't be any wind in space. It's a vacuum isn't it?

[ximmy]

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7325&stc=1


are maybe that's all there going to let us see for now

Pluto's private parts are blurred out for modesty's sake...

[EE_]

are maybe that's all there going to let us see for now

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7325&stc=1

Hope this clears it up a bit...

http://www.houseofrave.com/media/disco-balls/16-inch-gold-disco-ball-big.jpg

[ximmy]

Hope this clears it up a bit...

http://www.houseofrave.com/media/disco-balls/16-inch-gold-disco-ball-big.jpg

EEK! Pluto Porn?

[Dogman]

EEK! Pluto Porn?

Depends on the definition, minor planets do come in ALL sizes, tho the bigger seem to please more and over rule those pesky smaller ones. ;)

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7328&stc=1

The larger the more ego to match, and conversely the ego needs to work harder when smaller but in general the smaller ones do all right if not more so if used correctly with intelligence and vigor !

;D

Why do you think the big heads on earth , down graded Pluto in solar status ?

Huge ;D !

[Cebu_4_2]

The larger the more ego to match, and conversely the ego needs to work harder when smaller !
;D

http://smalljunk.com/var/albums/big%20truck.JPG?m=1269993417

[Santa]

Makes me wonder whether, or rather how much these Hubble shots have been CGI'ed and artistically rendered to glamor the public.
Honestly, there are plenty of hungry artists out there that could easily make Kissinger's ass look like Venus' face. :)

[Dogman]

Makes me wonder whether, or rather how much these Hubble shots have been CGI'ed and artistically rendered to glamor the public.
Honestly, there are plenty of hungry artists out there that could easily make Kissinger's ass look like Venus' face. :) If you have ever spent any time using a telescope of any size the images are generally black/white and grey, except some objects that do show blue into the red. (the Orion nebula comes to mind,or the 7 sisters, the Pleiades) Because the photons are so few that to make an image it takes magnification to see them , the larger the mirror/lens the more photons collected and the better the resolution and smaller objects in space can be seen with any detail or even seen.

With hobby telescopes including the light bucket types in a affordable range 8" - 12" which are in thousands of bucks depending on the mount, using astrophotography one can get far more detail, but the images will still be bw/red/blue, unless enhanced and or stacking several viewing sessions using filters, the NASA and professional astronomical images that are in full color ARE enhanced using filters and assigning colors for the different elements detected, and the colors used are the colors that different elements emit when heated or excited in the light spectrum.

So the stunning photos we see are enhanced with bling that using the spectrum of the light reaching us, but sadly we can not see using our mark 1 mod 0 eyeballs.

Kissinges ass is way beyond any man made or enhanced help!

[gunDriller]

I don't like to spend too much time thinking about space travel

but I think i've figured out the details of the first launch :)

[expat4ever]

Hubble has also had some work done on her over the years. Does anyone know if she has IR capabilities? Or maybe just an IR filter.

In regards to the Vacuum. I'm not sure how it works in space but dont see why it wouldnt be able to have a wind pass through the vacuum of space. Probably at the most efficient means possible.
That differs from a vacuum on earth in say a vacuum clamp where when you create the vacuum you have the weight of the atmosphere pushing down on the surface. I use to use an inexpensive vacuum system, just a bag and pump that we made a platen for, and used it as a clamp in woodworking. Obviously that would be different than say a steel vacuum tube or chamber.

[Dogman]

Hubble has also had some work done on her over the years. Does anyone know if she has IR capabilities? Or maybe just an IR filter.

In regards to the Vacuum. I'm not sure how it works in space but dont see why it wouldnt be able to have a wind pass through the vacuum of space. Probably at the most efficient means possible.
That differs from a vacuum on earth in say a vacuum clamp where when you create the vacuum you have the weight of the atmosphere pushing down on the surface. I use to use an inexpensive vacuum system, just a bag and pump that we made a platen for, and used it as a clamp in woodworking. Obviously that would be different than say a steel vacuum tube or chamber.

Limited ir yes!

Dedicated ir not sure think filter only ?, need to look up specs.

Think pressure waves can move in a vacuum only if there is matter of some kind accelerated some way, once moving it may move forever if no gravity is involved!

Keeping the square law/rule in mind.

[expat4ever]

Thanks Dogman. Its great that everyone can contribute what they know in one place on one subject. Its also the best thing about the internet, we as a species can have a collective body of knowledge at our fingertips.

Here's a vid I am watching now. I know these are all longer vids so I will give a brief summary. We are sending a craft to Ceres, the largest asteroid in the asteroid belt. Bout the size of Tx. They talk about the mission and what they think Ceres is made up of. Suprisingly, it may contain the largest body of water in our solor system behind earth of course.

There's a great graphic starting at about the 21 min mark on how much water is contained on Earth. Its shocking how little there truly is. Only about 1% by volume. Ceres is about 40% by volume.. March is the projected arrival date for the Ceres mission.

One other interesting fact is they are using an ion drive on this spacecraft. I know there was talk about them in the past but I had no idea they were in use already.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wfeGK4AjtQ

[expat4ever]

These hubble hangout series of vids are the ones that are interactive when they are live. I am happy to see NASA going out and doing stuff like this to generate interest with the public.

[Dogman]

Sad to say I think Hubble is getting close to end life, been a while since serviced.

[expat4ever]

yep, they say 2020 at least and then if everything is still working they will keep it up there.

[singular_me]

didnt want to revive the fibonacci thread as the debate levels arent enough open minded.. but here is the sequence in all its splendor.


GREAT UPDATED VERSION. also shows the sun following the sequence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4V-ooITrws

ps: the cosmos is not a vacuum as it is filled with stellar winds...

[Silver Rocket Bitches!]

What's this bright reflection on Ceres the dwarf planet/asteroid?


warf planet Ceres continues to puzzle scientists as NASA's Dawn spacecraft gets closer to being captured into orbit around the object. The latest images from Dawn, taken nearly 29,000 miles (46,000 kilometers) from Ceres, reveal that a bright spot that stands out in previous images lies close to yet another bright area."Ceres' bright spot can now be seen to have a companion of lesser brightness, but apparently in the same basin. This may be pointing to a volcano-like origin of the spots, but we will have to wait for better resolution before we can make such geologic interpretations," said Chris Russell, principal investigator for the Dawn mission, based at the University of California, Los Angeles.
Using its ion propulsion system, Dawn will enter orbit around Ceres on March 6. As scientists receive better and better views of the dwarf planet over the next 16 months, they hope to gain a deeper understanding of its origin and evolution by studying its surface. The intriguing bright spots and other interesting features of this captivating world will come into sharper focus.
"The brightest spot continues to be too small to resolve with our camera, but despite its size it is brighter than anything else on Ceres. This is truly unexpected and still a mystery to us," said Andreas Nathues, lead investigator for the framing camera team at the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research, Gottingen, Germany.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7358&stc=1
Artist rendition:

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7357&stc=1

[Horn]

Now that's a truly electric crater, looks like a diode...

[Horn]

Ion drives


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OFgJwdZxRc