Mexican Government Condemns US Police For Officer-Involved Shooting

[mick silver]

http://downtrend.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/mmtr2.jpg Mexican Government Condemns US Police For Officer-Involved Shooting
http://downtrend.com/71superb/mexican-government-condemns-us-police-for-officer-involved-shooting Not only doesn’t Mexico do anything to protect its citizens, the police and military are so corrupt that they actually help the bad guys slaughter their own people. I bring this up because in a seriously hypocritical move, the Mexican government is condemning a US police department over the fatal shooting of a deranged man this week.
Police in Pasco, WA confronted Antonio Zambrano-Montes in grocery store parking lot on Tuesday, where the crazed Mexican pelted them with rocks. Officers tried to subdue the man with a stun gun, but it had no effect. Zambrano-Montes refused to comply with the officers and continued to throw rocks. He was shot and killed.


In the video, you can see three officers open fire on the man, but they either miss, or the shots have no effect. He runs across the street, then turns at the officers again and raises his arm to throw more rocks. At this point he is shot and killed.
Two of the officers were struck by rocks and sustained injuries in the attack. The cops have been placed on administrative leave and an investigation will determine if this was a righteous shooting.
However, standard protocol following an officer-involved shooting is not good enough for some people. The Mexican Government has a problem with American policing tactics and our system of justice, according to Reuters (http://news.yahoo.com/mexico-condemns-fatal-shooting-police-washington-state-202234739.html), and issued this condemnation of the incident:

Mexico’s Foreign Affairs Ministry called for an exhaustive investigation of the killing of Antonio Zambrano-Montes…
“Mexico’s government strongly condemns incidents in which lethal force is used disproportionately,” the ministry said in a statement late on Thursday. “These unfortunate events damage communities and they erode confidence in the authorities.”
Holy crap! With the way Mexican Federales assist drug cartels in killing thousands every year can you believe someone from the government had the cajones to say that about US police?
Even their corrupt El Presidente got in on the action:

Speaking in Mexico City on Friday afternoon, Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto reiterated the condemnation of the disproportionate use of lethal force and said he had instructed officials to support Zambrano-Montes’ family.
“I’ve told them to pay close attention to the investigation into this indignant and lamentable event,” he said.
I think Mexico needs to clean up its own yard before it starts worrying a few weeds on its neighbor’s lawn. This is like a serial killer complaining that a shoplifter is causing a blight on society.
If Mexico really wants to protect its citizens from the big bad American police, they should do more to keep them from sneaking into the country. Reuters describes Zambrano-Montes only as “Mexican-born.” Clearly he is a citizen of Mexico and it wouldn’t surprise me if he were in the US illegally.
Had he stayed in Mexico, he’d still be alive. Had he not chosen to throw rocks at police officers, he wouldn’t have been shot. Zambrano-Montes made poor choices that led to his own death. He’s the Mexican Michael Brown.

[Publico]

The guy was throwing rocks. If I was a cop that close I would have bull rushed him to tackle him. A lot of cops are total wussies when it comes with dealing with people.

[Glass]

I was reading through our local Police laws. We have a Statute called the Police Act, which was followed by many many Police Act Ammendement Acts. Which usually just changed the $$ of the fines and penalties that applied to either the public or the police as the case may be.

The original Police Act was from 1892 so it included much old style language from that era. A few people on here think old language means it doesn't apply any more BUT not true.

What I found surprised me. That Act was full of definitions of crimes that the police can prosecute for. Now I was surprised because I thought it would be an Act about how police are trained and inducted into service and what oaths they take but no, none of that was in there. I also thought those laws would be described elswhere. They dealt with controlling animals, drunkenness, being a rogue, an incorrigible rouge, fraudulent cheques, gaming, prostitution, weapons and many other things.

Example of a Crime: To drive or ride a carriage, dray, camel, horse, some other things I can't recall in a furious and reckless manner. Today this would be described as reckless driving or dangerous driving.

There was also a section in there specifically about Rabid dogs. I bring this up because there are a heap of threads where by the cops shot some ones dog. The old laws, common laws state that police can destroy any dog that appears to be rabid or that may have come in contact with a dog that was rabid. They have a duty to protect the public from rabidity, rabiditousness, rabiousness?.

If you growl at the police, they may conclude you are rabid.

[Hitch]

The guy was throwing rocks. If I was a cop that close I would have bull rushed him to tackle him. A lot of cops are total wussies when it comes with dealing with people.

Then the police video would show multiple cops beating up an unarmed man. You know a lot of police "beatings" are complete BS. A screaming person who's not in any pain, but putting on a show for the crowd and a law suit later. Everyone says they are hurting him!

I guess cops are getting to the point of why bother, just shoot the maniac. Dead people can't sue. It's a lose lose situation anyway, nothing they can do is the right answer, so just start shooting. Don't even get your hands dirty that way.

[Cebu_4_2]

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?82060-Fucking-cowards

[madfranks]

The problem is that anything aggressive against a cop and suddenly they "fear for their lives," justifying the use of deadly force. I wouldn't like rocks tossed at me either (in fact once I did have a couple kids throwing rocks at me, it's not fun), but killing someone over it? If a mundane did this, we'd be in big trouble, but the author of the OP article seems to think shotting someone dead over rocks is OK.

[Dogman]

The problem is that anything aggressive against a cop and suddenly they "fear for their lives," justifying the use of deadly force. I wouldn't like rocks tossed at me either (in fact once I did have a couple kids throwing rocks at me, it's not fun), but killing someone over it? If a mundane did this, we'd be in big trouble, but the author of the OP article seems to think shotting someone dead over rocks is OK.

May come a time "blowing" kisses will or can be answered by deadly force from the Kops!

[7th trump]

The guy was throwing rocks. If I was a cop that close I would have bull rushed him to tackle him. A lot of cops are total wussies when it comes with dealing with people.

Yeah right.....the guy takes a few rounds from the police and runs off like it was nothing...and you want to get in close to this guy?

[7th trump]

There will be a time soon when the system fails and you are gonna prey for the police to show up to do the dirty deed to these criminal thugs.
But they wont show up and you will have to face a life or death situation.
The question is ....are you man enough to pull the trigger on a whacked out drug induced criminal before he kills you or someone else?

[Hitch]

The problem is that anything aggressive against a cop and suddenly they "fear for their lives," justifying the use of deadly force. .

I think it works both ways, madfranks. I've been following this, like you all, for years now. Seems relations between cops, and the public, just keeps getting worse and worse.

Everyone hates cops anyway, honestly, why bother with a maniac like that? I know it sounds bad to say that. Just thinking out loud. I look at like what if you had this horrible wife you had to deal with. Mow the lawn, she nags you, fix the car, you did it wrong....nag nag nag. How long before you just say fuck it, grab a bottle of scotch, and drink way...because you know she's going to nag you no matter what you do.

I think we're getting to that point. Cops, just saying fuck it, can't do anything right anyway, might as well do what ever the hell I want to.

Just a thought.

[TRUTHseekr]

The problem is that anything aggressive against a cop and suddenly they "fear for their lives," justifying the use of deadly force. I wouldn't like rocks tossed at me either (in fact once I did have a couple kids throwing rocks at me, it's not fun), but killing someone over it? If a mundane did this, we'd be in big trouble, but the author of the OP article seems to think shotting someone dead over rocks is OK.

^^THIS!! And what Hitch stated,"[cops figure]...why bother, just shoot the maniac. Dead people can't sue." Now, we're to the point where they don't haggle. I was watching old shows on Cozy TV where sherrifs or LEOs would fight it out or injure a criminal anything but riddle them with bullets, its all fantasy now. Not that LEOs don't need to protect their lives and I appreciate their dedication, but this seems excessive now. And killings of blacks/latinos by LEOs seem to have ironically jumped after Michael Brown.

[Dogman]

^^THIS!! And what Hitch stated,"[cops figure]...why bother, just shoot the maniac. Dead people can't sue." Now, we're to the point where they don't haggle. I was watching old shows on Cozy TV where sherrifs or LEOs would fight it out or injure a criminal anything but riddle them with bullets, its all fantasy now. Not that LEOs don't need to protect their lives and I appreciate their dedication, but this seems excessive now. And killings of blacks/latinos by LEOs seem to have ironically jumped after Michael Brown.

They do the same with whites, they are afraid of getting a scratch on them.

This is said from one that in his time it was honorable to settle differences with fists and I can remember cops on the sideline watching, no on would go to jail, especially if the one that started it, got their asses whooped. Cops then if they thought you were wrong, would dust it up with you and not shoot nor any weapons used except fists as long as weapons were not part of the mix.

Cops now are 100% pussy's compared to the ones in the past when a good honest fight was appreciated by all.

Our whole society has been passivised and pussyfied to the max!

Used to be a good rumble settled most disagreements, with maybe a few grudges held, that will mean in the future another round will happen. now it is the norm to shoot and kill, that apples to both our society and cops.

Most but not all cops today are pussy's and cowards afraid to mix it up, they rather draw and shoot and let the legal brotherhood cover their asses.

Blah !

[Hitch]

They do the same with whites, they are afraid of getting a scratch on them.

This is said from one that in his time it was honorable to settle differences with fists and I can remember cops on the sideline watching, no on would go to jail, especially if the one that started it, got their asses whooped. Cops then if they thought you were wrong, would dust it up with you and not shoot nor any weapons used except fists as long as weapons were not part of the mix.

Cops now are 100% pussy's compared to the ones in the past when a good honest fight was appreciated by all.

Our whole society has been passivised and pussyfied to the max!

Used to be a good rumble settled most disagreements, with maybe a few grudges held, that will mean in the future another round will happen. now it is the norm to shoot and kill, that apples to both our society and cops.

Most but not all cops today are pussy's and cowards afraid to mix it up, they rather draw and shoot and let the legal brotherhood cover their asses.

Blah !

Bah!! What looks worse, cops shooting a guy, or cops jumping on top of him beating the shit out of him?

It all looks bad on video. That's why cops are taking the easy way out....shooting the perp. Fuck it. You all are going to hang them anyway.

You created this! Enjoy your trigger happy cop thugs.

[Dogman]

Bah!! What looks worse, cops shooting a guy, or cops jumping on top of him beating the shit out of him?

It all looks bad on video. That's why cops are taking the easy way out....shooting the perp. Fuck it. You all are going to hang them anyway.

You created this! Enjoy your trigger happy cop thugs.

Part of the diff was back then it was if more than one cop was involved, they mostly only used enough force to get into control, not the hog pileups that go beyond reasonable. Sure if the offender deserved it they probably would get a tad more roughed up than that was necessary.

But those times and I am speaking of small town/city justice, I can not apply what I have said to larger towns or city's the cops lived in the place they worked and their kids went to the same schools and churches. So they always had to answer to the larger population of that town, if they were over reacting they got a rep and in general did not stay on the job long, because the towns population would drive them out and they would know they were not welcome, they payed for their actions if they abused their powers.

But that was back in my early days, I suspect the same is still happening in small community's but larger towns and citys that is a whole different ball game. Small town/city is not the same as larger citys when it comes to how things are handled.

Think the larger the police force the more likely the bad apple can get away with crap.

[TRUTHseekr]

They do the same with whites, they are afraid of getting a scratch on them.

This is said from one that in his time it was honorable to settle differences with fists and I can remember cops on the sideline watching, no on would go to jail, especially if the one that started it, got their asses whooped. Cops then if they thought you were wrong, would dust it up with you and not shoot nor any weapons used except fists as long as weapons were not part of the mix...........
Cops now are 100% pussy's compared to the ones in the past when a good honest fight was appreciated by all.
Our whole society has been passivised and pussyfied to the max!
.............
Most but not all cops today are pussy's and cowards afraid to mix it up, they rather draw and shoot and let the legal brotherhood cover their asses.

Blah !
Yup, I'm pretty sure it's all got to do with not only corruption of politics, but also because every one can sue left and right nowadays, they'd rather completely eliminate the suspect(then have only LEO witness 1st hand evidence of what occurred in their words) and try to confiscate any evidence as well. And I know its not just minorities getting short changed, I will never forget the ugly murder of Kelly Thomas, no one is special anymore, equality for all! sarc/