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General of Darkness
19th February 2015, 12:32 PM
Well no shit.

UN: Proven Ties Between ISIS And Israel (http://yournewswire.com/un-proven-ties-between-isis-and-israel/)

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A new report from the UN reveals that the Israeli Defence Forces (IDF) maintained regular contact with members of ISIS since May 2013. The UN identified contact with IDF forces and ISIS soldiers.
Addictinginfo.org (http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/02/05/isis-idf-link/) reports:
In a new report from the UN, it is revealed that the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) were maintaining regular contact (http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.630359)with members of the so-called Islamic State since May of 2013. Initial reports from the IDF stated that this was only for medical care for civilians, but that story fell apart when the UN observers identified direct contact between IDF forces and ISIS soldiers, including giving medical care (http://foreignpolicy.com/2014/06/11/exclusive-israel-is-tending-to-wounded-syrian-rebels/)to ISIS fighters. Observations even included the transfer of two crates from the IDF to ISIS forces, the contents of which have not been confirmed at this time. Further the UN report identified what the Syrians label a crossing point of forces between Israel and ISIS, a point of concern brought before the UN Security Council. This report from the UN strengthens the claims by the Syrian regime that Israel is heavily involved in operations within the nation (http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/New-UN-report-reveals-collaboration-between-Israel-and-Syrian-rebels-383926).
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This is part of a continuing pattern of Israeli support for the Islamic State. It was only two months ago that Israel attacked Syrian forces in opposition to ISIS forces (http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Head-of-Syrian-army-after-alleged-airstrikes-Israel-working-with-ISIS-and-al-Qaida-383907). Israeli attacks even killed an Iranian military adviser for the Syrian military just two weeks ago. The U.S.’s financing of ISIS, part of the effort against Syrian president Assad, is well documented, as well. That the efforts to undermine the Assad regime were in turn strengthening the same terrorist group which recently set a Jordanian pilot on fire to set an example (http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/1.640813) is conveniently ignored by the higher up military command.
When the United States began operations against ISIS, Israeli high command seemed reluctant to give any support and called the move a mistake (http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.623717). The support of ISIS fits in with Israeli concerns in the region, namely that of Syria and Iran, and U.S. opposition to ISIS has put the United States in the awkward position of once again arming the enemies we will be fighting tomorrow.
Syria and Iran both pose a threat to Israel with their sizable conventional forces and political clout in the region, in much the same way Iraq was before the elimination of Saddam Hussein. With the toppling of Saddam, pieces of concern remain, and Israel appears to still maintain the old axiom that the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Supporting ISIS for Israel enables them to eliminate two issues at once, only once Syria is no longer a concern — a move which would in turn neutralize Iranian influence in the region — Israel then would turn its attention to ISIS, bolstered by other anti-ISIS forces from Saudi Arabia, Turkey and the United States. That would take several more years, however, during which time ISIS would continue to grow in both size and power. By the time they turn their attention to ISIS, it is quite possible that ISIS would have toppled the nations (http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/08/03/invade-saudi-arabia/)which Israel is counting on for support of such an operation. Too little, too late.
Traditionally such groups as ISIS have relied upon Saudi Arabia for support, but Saudi money is conspicuously absent (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/war-with-isis-if-the-saudis-arent-fuelling-the-militant-inferno-who-is-10024324.html) from ISIS coffers. Unlike groups before, ISIS has gone self-financed, relying upon prostitution, slavery and oil f (http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/09/15/isis-prostitution/)or its financial well-being. This, in turn, removes the protections which Saudi Arabia has relied upon for almost a century to prevent such organizations from turning on the House of Saud and potentially conquering the kingdom which is now in the sights of the Islamic State (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30061109).
In turn, the ISIS forces have all but forced the Kurds to become a mighty force unto themselves, much to the anger of neighboring Turkey. Rather than helping to fight ISIS, Turkey is instead attacking the forces standing in opposition to ISIS (http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Deadly-attacks-against-Kurds-in-Turkey-continue-389675). The entire situation has spiraled out of control.
In effect, there is no side to support here, as each side is being supported at once in opposition to the other side. By enabling the creation of ISIS, we have taken an already unstable situation and poured gasoline over it. Now we are facing a true threat, not from ISIS or Iran or Syria, but against our own arrogance. We have been blinded to the death and destruction created by our actions in the Middle East.
We once were respected throughout the region, as neutral peacebrokers, the nation which oversaw the breakup of the Barbary pirates and a country which became eternal friends with the people of Iran when all of Europe ignored them. Now we are Israel’s expected muscle, to carry out their dirty work in an effort to destabilize the region and de-power those the tiny nation views as a threat. They will support anyone, if it meets a short-term goal, even if the result is a plot more complex and ridiculous than an episode of “Passions (http://www.nbc.com/passions). This can, and will cost them long-term.
The United States cannot be party to this. Whatever the political and economic cost, the U.S. must disengage from all sides in the Middle East, before it is too late.



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mick silver
19th February 2015, 02:12 PM
It's to late the usa does the work for Israel ... Whatever the political and economic cost, the U.S. must disengage from all sides in the Middle East, before it is too late.

ximmy
19th February 2015, 02:42 PM
state of israel = violence on the planet

midnight rambler
19th February 2015, 03:02 PM
A tribe of turds stirring the shit

osoab
19th February 2015, 04:54 PM
ISIS revealed as ISRAELI SECRET INTELLIGENCE SERVICE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMUlTSmNu0c)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMUlTSmNu0c

Ponce
19th February 2015, 05:15 PM
Where there is trouble, where there is death, where you find all that is bad in the land........you will find......The State Of Israel, the eternal trouble maker for peace and love.

V

7th trump
19th February 2015, 06:45 PM
Did any of you actually read it?
Theres not much there but speculation.
Two crates from the IDF to ISIS forces doesn't prove much....doesn't even confirm that Israel is in fact ISIS.

You guys sure do enjoy entertaining yourselves with whacked out conspiracy stories.
Lol...you wont believe anything on the MSM but you'll believe a conspiracy theory when you see one....Hahaha.

Cebu_4_2
19th February 2015, 07:05 PM
Did any of you actually read it?
Theres not much there but speculation.
Two crates from the IDF to ISIS forces doesn't prove much....doesn't even confirm that Israel is in fact ISIS.

You guys sure do enjoy entertaining yourselves with whacked out conspiracy stories.
Lol...you wont believe anything on the MSM but you'll believe a conspiracy theory when you see one....Hahaha.

So point them in the right direction if you know so very much... Replying in a derogatory way looks bad when you offer no backup to it.

midnight rambler
19th February 2015, 07:20 PM
So point them in the right direction if you know so very much... Replying in a derogatory way looks bad when you offer no backup to it.

Donald Trump has nothing. History clearly shows that that ISIS is the fruit of the tree planted and nurtured by western interests.


http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?82149-The-birth-of-Islamofascism-was-in-1979

7th trump
19th February 2015, 07:27 PM
So point them in the right direction if you know so very much... Replying in a derogatory way looks bad when you offer no backup to it.

I did point them in the right direction............and I only know as much as the article states.
I read the article and all its really states is that two crates went from the IDF to ISIS and a point of crossing, but they never go into detail what this "crossing" actually is...............is that enough to say Israel is in fact ISIS?

I thought this forum had level discerning headed people, but the more I read on this forum the more it looks like turning on the TV and watching a news channel, the afternoon soap and a game show all combined into one.

7th trump
19th February 2015, 07:32 PM
Donald Trump has nothing. History clearly shows that that ISIS is the fruit of the tree planted and nurtured by western interests.


http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?82149-The-birth-of-Islamofascism-was-in-1979

Again your link proves nothing.
All it shows is a guy selling weapons to the muslim cause to fight the soviet invaders.
The muslims had a cause way before the soviets ever invaded Afghanistan. A lot has happened since then.
You still got nothing midnight...nothing!

The muslims then weren't ISIS of today.
Its a religious caliphate today...then it was to drive the soviet invaders out.
You're playing games again midnight...any 2nd grader can see this.

midnight rambler
19th February 2015, 07:35 PM
Again your link proves nothing.
All it shows is a guy selling weapons to the muslim cause to fight the soviet invaders.
The muslims had a cause way before the soviets ever invaded Afghanistan. A lot has happened since then.
You still got nothing midnight...nothing!

The muslims then weren't ISIS of today.

"Stupid is as stupid does." --Forrest Gump

7th trump
19th February 2015, 07:41 PM
ISIS revealed as ISRAELI SECRET INTELLIGENCE SERVICE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMUlTSmNu0c)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMUlTSmNu0c

hahahahaha....do you actually publically believe this?
That was in 1990.

Ok Ok ok...I got one....ISIS...Idiots Sound Incredible Stupid....do you get it?

7th trump
19th February 2015, 07:42 PM
"Stupid is as stupid does." --Forrest Gump

Lol....you surely make a fool of yourself...bravo!

So a guy in 1979 created and armed ISIS of today?
Bahahahahahahahahahahahaha...............wow!

midnight rambler
19th February 2015, 07:45 PM
"When you find yourself in a hole the first thing you need to do is stop digging." --Will Rogers

"It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt" --Mark Twain

7th trump
19th February 2015, 07:54 PM
"When you find yourself in a hole the first thing you need to do is stop digging." --Will Rogers

"It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt" --Mark Twain

You should heed those words rambler....seriously!

slvrbugjim
19th February 2015, 08:14 PM
I did point them in the right direction............and I only know as much as the article states.
I read the article and all its really states is that two crates went from the IDF to ISIS and a point of crossing, but they never go into detail what this "crossing" actually is...............is that enough to say Israel is in fact ISIS?

I thought this forum had level discerning headed people, but the more I read on this forum the more it looks like turning on the TV and watching a news channel, the afternoon soap and a game show all combined into one.C

Correct the article is a whitewash to obscure the obvious that Israel is ISIS but still too truthful for the USa of Israel press to even cover it so there are two sides but yes correct. Scarry Muuusumms must be always scary and the tribe will always get a pass. By the way the Scofield Bible was written during the Russian Revolution by a Bolshevik while at the same time in the same year the Miracle of Fatima warned of this very thing and that Russia would be liberated after 70 million deaths of Christians by the Zionists Jews from 1917 thru 1953 that you so love therefore I take your view that 70 million Christians deaths were ok in your view of Zionistic domination and death and destruction of millions of people by your "gods" hand. your god loves death and destruction of entire peoples you are the follower of Satan admit it this is what you are. So are you a supporter of the Jews that killed 70 million Christians, if so are you really a Christian, no you are not you are a traitor and you are of the Synagogue of Satan, admit it you know it just state it right here for us we all know you are the fake jews that are not Jews and are the Synagogue of Satan this is your place this is where over the years that I have read your bs, that you are coming from you are in fact Satanic in Every way.

Go here for those not controlled by Aipac http://rense.com/general60/zcre.htm


As a side note I was trying to set off an incendiary explosive device here so keep this in mind

osoab
19th February 2015, 08:21 PM
hahahahaha....do you actually publically believe this?
That was in 1990.

Ok Ok ok...I got one....ISIS...Idiots Sound Incredible Stupid....do you get it?

Oh, so your using the reverse psychology method. Since it was two jews selling the book, then they were just feeding another misdirection and the whole ISIS thing was planned 25 yrs ago. Is that what your thinking?

ximmy
19th February 2015, 09:32 PM
C

Correct the article is a whitewash to obscure the obvious that Israel is ISIS but still too truthful for the USa of Israel press to even cover it so there are two sides but yes correct. Scarry Muuusumms must be always scary and the tribe will always get a pass. By the way the Scofield Bible was written during the Russian Revolution by a Bolshevik while at the same time in the same year the Miracle of Fatima warned of this very thing and that Russia would be liberated after 70 million deaths of Christians by the Zionists Jews from 1917 thru 1953 that you so love therefore I take your view that 70 million Christians deaths were ok in your view of Zionistic domination and death and destruction of millions of people by your "gods" hand. your god loves death and destruction of entire peoples you are the follower of Satan admit it this is what you are. So are you a supporter of the Jews that killed 70 million Christians, if so are you really a Christian, no you are not you are a traitor and you are of the Synagogue of Satan, admit it you know it just state it right here for us we all know you are the fake jews that are not Jews and are the Synagogue of Satan this is your place this is where over the years that I have read your bs, that you are coming from you are in fact Satanic in Every way.

Go here for those not controlled by Aipac http://rense.com/general60/zcre.htm


As a side note I was trying to set off an incendiary explosive device here so keep this in mind

Satan's angels pose as angels of light but 7th trump displays a wickedly open hatred in plain view for all to see. He is a pseudo Christian, the kind who foolishly who believe jooz are still God's chosen people.

Jewboo
19th February 2015, 10:03 PM
...therefore I take your view that 70 million Christians deaths were ok in your view of Zionistic domination and death and destruction of millions of people by your "gods" hand. your god loves death and destruction of entire peoples you are the follower of Satan admit it this is what you are. So are you a supporter of the Jews that killed 70 million Christians, if so are you really a Christian, no you are not you are a traitor and you are of the Synagogue of Satan, admit it you know it just state it right here for us we all know you are the fake jews that are not Jews and are the Synagogue of Satan this is your place this is where over the years that I have read your bs, that you are coming from you are in fact Satanic in Every way.




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Glass
20th February 2015, 03:25 AM
I'm looking at the Thread Title and at the OP article. Neither say that Israel is ISIS. The video in a later post, unrelated to the OP material has that title.

7th, you seem to be blending the two and confusing that the thread is about Israel is ISIS when it is not. It's about ISIS being in contact with Israel. I don't think the article has much meat but I know it's not saying Israel is ISIS. I also haven't read the UN report to compare to the article. I think that would be worth doing. I think ISIS is the evolved Al Queda. I also think its stature is vastly over blown. I think its size, capacity and controlled territory are exaggerated, possibly to a ludicrous extent. I think it's an over blown boogie monster under the bed.

slvrbugjim
20th February 2015, 03:54 AM
Satan's angels pose as angels of light but 7th trump displays a wickedly open hatred in plain view for all to see. He is a pseudo Christian, the kind who foolishly who believe jooz are still God's chosen people.

The light bearer is Lucifer enlightened are those that follow the God of Earth, The fake Jews, the Zionists had taken over as the money changers those that were cast to the Pale by Catherine the Great to take her country back, and she did so and became "Great" as a result. Selling Alaska to the US rather than allowing it to come into the hands of the Zionists and British House of Rothschild which was similar to what was a Putin chessboard move. Perhaps Putin is a real Christian who fulfilled the 3rd secret of Fatima while at the same time using a chesslike move controlling the Zionists Oligarchs by taking away their "political power by law that money will not get them political power through money, fake fiat money will not render you political power and then putting into prison Khordikovsy into prison would be a part of this "chess move" check mate. From Putin, I make this country an Orthodox Christian country, we have pushed aside those that have killed 70 million of our people and we take our country back. We let in no GMO's we will protect our people from poison and for the first time our people have a higher birthrate than death rate since 1941. You Zionists are the rot of the boil on our skin that we cast out and now try to control but your agents foment more war here by the Zionists by creating the overthrow of Ukraine by your agents to weakly try and start my hand in a Global conflict on which I will not capitulate. Sacrifice your Christians in a phoney war in Ukraine and bring up more bodies but I will not ever got there, my people know the truth as in America there is no truth being told I do now Understand the Zombie paradigm on your TV that all peoples are controlled and do not know it they are dead walking people that know nothing. A few will wake up and because you are armed it will be death in the streets when your fiat crashes. We in Russia do not care we will survive this crash and we and with the help of China will destroy you if you dare turn our hand there."

7th trump
20th February 2015, 08:50 AM
I'm looking at the Thread Title and at the OP article. Neither say that Israel is ISIS. The video in a later post, unrelated to the OP material has that title.

7th, you seem to be blending the two and confusing that the thread is about Israel is ISIS when it is not. It's about ISIS being in contact with Israel. I don't think the article has much meat but I know it's not saying Israel is ISIS. I also haven't read the UN report to compare to the article. I think that would be worth doing. I think ISIS is the evolved Al Queda. I also think its stature is vastly over blown. I think its size, capacity and controlled territory are exaggerated, possibly to a ludicrous extent. I think it's an over blown boogie monster under the bed.

Good post Glass.
The notion of Isreal being ISIS comes from midnight rambler. The over all premise on this forum is that ISIS is fake, the neck slicing video's are fake and its the Mossad doing the neck slicing...I think ISIS is legit muslims and not Israel.

My first post is saying the same thing....theres not much meat in the article to connect Israel as being ISIS......I was trying to disspell the bullshit coming from Midnight and GoD that ISIS is Israel.
I beleive the US is arming ISIS but not intentionally or directly. I think these ISIS are the rebels we are arming to fight Assad who have decided totake the weapons and fight with the calphate cause and left syria.
However a few on this forum dont beleive this and are saying ISIS is Israel where they have no evidence of this and what they do bring to the table has no meat behind it what so ever.
Basically I'm calling them out for being conspiracy mongerers and not studious in being properly discerning (honesty)....it seems they have an agenda.

And I totally agree with reading that UN article to get a better understanding of whats going on before any assumption is made.

SWRichmond
20th February 2015, 09:35 AM
state of israel = violence on the planet

Organized government = "legal monopoly on the use of force" = comes to be dominated by people who love to use force and get away with it = lots of use of force.

Not rocket science.

midnight rambler
20th February 2015, 10:12 AM
I'm looking at the Thread Title and at the OP article. Neither say that Israel is ISIS. The video in a later post, unrelated to the OP material has that title.

7th, you seem to be blending the two and confusing that the thread is about Israel is ISIS when it is not. It's about ISIS being in contact with Israel. I don't think the article has much meat but I know it's not saying Israel is ISIS. I also haven't read the UN report to compare to the article. I think that would be worth doing. I think ISIS is the evolved Al Queda. I also think its stature is vastly over blown. I think its size, capacity and controlled territory are exaggerated, possibly to a ludicrous extent. I think it's an over blown boogie monster under the bed.

2 or 3 months ago I saw another mention elsewhere regarding how the Israelis were covertly moving wounded ISIS personnel into IsraHELL for treatment and materiel into Syria into the hands of ISIS at a (covert) border crossing with Syria. I do not recall the source, however it was not speculation or conjecture that info was from a credible source.

osoab
20th February 2015, 11:15 AM
2 or 3 months ago I saw another mention elsewhere regarding how the Israelis were covertly moving wounded ISIS personnel into IsraHELL for treatment and materiel into Syria into the hands of ISIS at a (covert) border crossing with Syria. I do not recall the source, however it was not speculation or conjecture that info was from a credible source.


From the OP



In a new report from the UN, it is revealed that the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) were maintaining regular contact (http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.630359)with members of the so-called Islamic State since May of 2013. Initial reports from the IDF stated that this was only for medical care for civilians, but that story fell apart when the UN observers identified direct contact between IDF forces and ISIS soldiers, including giving medical care (http://foreignpolicy.com/2014/06/11/exclusive-israel-is-tending-to-wounded-syrian-rebels/)to ISIS fighters. Observations even included the transfer of two crates from the IDF to ISIS forces, the contents of which have not been confirmed at this time. Further the UN report identified what the Syrians label a crossing point of forces between Israel and ISIS, a point of concern brought before the UN Security Council. This report from the UN strengthens the claims by the Syrian regime that Israel is heavily involved in operations within the nation (http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/New-UN-report-reveals-collaboration-between-Israel-and-Syrian-rebels-383926).

mick silver
20th February 2015, 02:30 PM
you guys need to leave spec people alone , stop picking on his people