Driverless Cars

[EE_]

Who wants them?

The race is on to develope and produce these...why? Are consumers asking for them, or are they spending all this energy and resources for something the government wants? I've yet to hear anyone say they can't wait to get a driverless car.

How much technology is too much? Do people really want everything, cars, home appliances, etc. connected to their iPhone?

Personally I would trade all this technology for a way to power my home cheaply off grid with a home power generating station. Why are all the great technology minds/companies not trying to solve this problem?

They can stick these driverless cars and iPhone connected home devices up their ass!

2/05/2015 @ 9:20PM 3,686 views
Ford CEO Expects Fully Autonomous Cars In 5 Years

[Shami-Amourae]

Eliminates truckers/drivers as a profession. Industry sees it as "cutting costs". Your shipping costs should decrease (UPS, FedEx, and so on)
You can take naps while driving long distances.
You can do other tasks while driving, saving time.
Reduces accidents (supposedly) and drunk drivers. Overall safety should improve.
Reduces emissions and fuel costs since robotic drivers would drive in the most efficient way possible
Increases access to vehicles. So very old and disabled people can now drive safely


I'm all for driverless cars as long as there's a manual/fail-safe switch from computer to manual driving. I bet early models will have that but overtime it will be forced to get a driverless car without a manual option as Big Data takes over.

Ultimately the drive for all industry is 100% automation. The tech industry only looks to cutting costs, and not the other way.

Big Data is the new god.

[EE_]

Eliminates truckers/drivers as a profession. Industry sees it as "cutting costs". Your shipping costs should decrease (UPS, FedEx, and so on)
Eliminates jobs, increases corporate profites, no reduced costs to 'consumers' (never is)
You can take naps while driving long distances.
short term you can take naps, long term you lose your freedom to drive
You can do other tasks while driving, saving time.
You can work more and the government will have complete control over you
Reduces accidents (supposedly) and drunk drivers. Overall safety should improve.
more government control, computer hacking could become a problem, famous quote "you do want to be safe, don't you?"
Reduces emissions and fuel costs since robotic drivers would drive in the most efficient way possible
fuel cost savings only mean more corporate profits, no savings to you
Increases access to vehicles. So very old and disabled people can now drive safely
Increases government control. Old and disabled already have an option...take a cab'


I'm all for driverless cars as long as there's a manual/fail-safe switch from computer to manual driving. I bet early models will have that but overtime it will be forced to get a driverless car without a manual option as big data takes over. I agree
You will probably be around a lot longer then me, good luck with your new world.
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[Shami-Amourae]

I'm not saying this is how I want it to be EE_. You asked why.

Your responses were generally accurate. The technology is both good and bad.

Don't worry though. The Reapers aren't coming for another 150 years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va-eJbFO8AU
;)

[Dogman]

When I lived out in west Texas, which is one of the lands of razor straight highways, dead flat land, nothing interesting at all to see, except jackrabbits , stunted mesquite trees, pump jacks and the occasional cow, where you have to drive at least 100 to 150 miles to get anywhere interesting, other than seeing and smelling road kill skunks, which seem to travel in pairs and killed the same.

Doing windshield time was mind numbing boring, where it would be common to see other drivers reading newspapers, books and such. The only part of the state that the highway patrol, would let you slide if you were going 90 mph on a 60 mph road, knowing that most on the roads were going to one oil lease or another pushing schedules and would not bother with you as long as you were not driving like an idiot.

Yes in times like that a driver less car/truck would be welcome, on highways that are so dam boring and mind numbing, that the hardest thing to do when driving on them is to stay awake, because it seems that the horizon never gets closer traveling to it and everything on the land looks the same.

On those roads, you can see where you are coming from, see where you are at , and see where you are going all at the same time, and sometimes you can see yesterday and tomorrow.

As you can probably tell , I did not care much for west texas highways, nor much about west texas ether.

Rather to be able to take a nap to skip the boring and mind rotting parts.

:)

[EE_]

I'm not saying this is how I want it to be EE_. You asked why.

Your responses were generally accurate. The technology is both good and bad.


Imagine the benefit to society to have cheap energy independent homes/businesses. No more nuclear power.
Things could also be done to recycle and produce water for the home/business.
IMO, all this technology is only being produced to 1. sell us more shit we don't need. 2. increase corporate profits. 3. increase government control.

Also, I've been wanting to see complete internet/TV integration, where I have a wireless keyboard to surf and program my TV. Not the technology of the smart TV, where my TV spies on me, collects data on me and reads my voice/emotions.

If you could pick one technology you'd like to see available to the consumer, what would it be?

[EE_]

When I lived out in west Texas, which is one of the lands of razor straight highways, dead flat land, nothing interesting at all to see, except jackrabbits , stunted mesquite trees, pump jacks and the occasional cow, where you have to drive at least 100 to 150 miles to get anywhere interesting, other than seeing and smelling road kill skunks, which seem to travel in pairs and killed the same.

Doing windshield time was mind numbing boring, where it would be common to see other drivers reading newspapers, books and such. The only part of the state that the highway patrol, would let you slide if you were going 90 mph on a 60 mph road, knowing that most on the roads were going to one oil lease or another pushing schedules and would not bother with you as long as you were not driving like an idiot.

Yes in times like that a driver less car/truck would be welcome, on highways that are so dam boring and mind numbing, that the hardest thing to do when driving on them is to stay awake, because it seems that the horizon never gets closer traveling to it and everything on the land looks the same.

On those roads, you can see where you are coming from, see where you are at , and see where you are going all at the same time, and sometimes you can see yesterday and tomorrow.

As you can probably tell , I did not care much for west texas highways, nor much about west texas ether.

Rather to be able to take a nap to skip the boring and mind rotting parts.

:)

I agree, it would be nice to click on the auto-pilot for that stretch of Texas...it's the most ungodly drive in the country.
Too bad the real purpose of the driverless car is not for that benefit.

[milehi]

I love to drive. When I strap myself in, I am the car. i drive for pleasure and a road trip isn't just about the destination but the drive.

[Dogman]

I love to drive. When I strap myself in, I am the car. i drive for pleasure and a road trip isn't just about the destination but the drive.


Then do some highway time on west texas roads and be amazed near big bend, it is kool, but near the panhandle not so much.

[Shami-Amourae]

Imagine the benefit to society to have cheap energy independent homes/businesses. No more nuclear power.
Things could also be done to recycle and produce water for the home/business.
IMO, all this technology is only being produced to 1. sell us more shit we don't need. 2. increase curporate profits. 3. increase government control.

Also, I've been wanting to see complete internet/TV integration, where I have a wireless keyboard to surf and program my TV. Not the technology of the smart TV, where my TV spies on me, collects data on me and reads my voice/emotions.

If you could pick one technology you'd like to see available to the consumer, what would it be?

Human Augmentation.

[Hitch]

I love to drive. When I strap myself in, I am the car. i drive for pleasure and a road trip isn't just about the destination but the drive.

I like to drive as well, but for different reasons. To me it's relaxing. I set the cruise control, listen to music, and slow down time. Driving a little home down the road is just that being home, where you want to be anyway.

[Glass]

Does this mean Google can pay all my speeding fines? Who's to blame when it runs over the old lady with the walking frame? Me or Google?

how does insurance work?

How does the law work where the person in control or the person who should have been in control is a search engine? eh?

Driverless cars cannot be allowed on the road with the current road laws/rules/codes/statutes

[Shami-Amourae]

Does this mean Google can pay all my speeding fines? Who's to blame when it runs over the old lady with the walking frame? Me or Google?

how does insurance work?

How does the law work where the person in control or the person who should have been in control is a search engine? eh?

Driverless cars cannot be allowed on the road with the current road laws/rules/codes/statutes

That's another unseen benefit. Police use petty traffic violations to rob the public of their money. With this technology they can't pull those scams anymore.

[Glass]

That's another unseen benefit. Police use petty traffic violations to rob the public of their money. With this technology they can't pull those scams anymore.

ah so it's pay by the mile then?

[Shami-Amourae]

ah so it's pay by the mile then?

They'll probably try to do that too. Definitely.

[Spectrism]

They can be done in limited locations but there would need to be a standardization of roadways to accomodate computer controls.

Driverless cars? I say we already have brainless drivers.

[singular_me]

Unlimited knowledge is just incompatible with a monetary system and even bartering/reward system. As we can see technology is eliminating jobs. Empathy, endless learning and passion must become the drive for Life. Metaphorically that why adam and eve were chased from paradise, they wanted to know why everything was or had to be for free. They were living mindlessly in eternal happiness and wanted it to stop, and learn the whys/hows of all things. The more knowledge the less materialism.... both are exponential.

with Unlimited knowledge comes the daunting string to master Natural Laws (why any form of power brings about evil is one of them).

Human competition is doomed to fail (a top 1% vs 99% ants is the logic out come), it is not fiat money the problem but the **mindset** that supports whatever monetary system: competition itself is an unsustainable premise. Darwin is a deception. So now we have either people rejecting technology (the new fundamentalism), regarding it as evil or mindless consumers working towards their own doom.

Thats the only deal in town with advanced technology.

[singular_me]

modern cars can be hacked from anywhere


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPdAjrUw2Lw

[osoab]

That's another unseen benefit. Police use petty traffic violations to rob the public of their money. With this technology they can't pull those scams anymore.

You'll lose your credits in some other manner.

[singular_me]

selling liberty for total slavery

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Future of driverless cars: Government able to lock you in your own car to deliver you to the nearest reeducation camp
18 December 2016
http://www.naturalnews.com/2016-12-16-future-of-driverless-cars-government-able-to-lock-you-in-your-own-car-to-deliver-you-to-the-nearest-reeducation-camp.html

Recently, the Seattle police enlisted the help of car manufacturer BMW to both track and remotely lock a criminal inside of the vehicle he had stolen. This has sparked some spirited debates regarding the remote-lock aspects of vehicles and the ways they can be used.

BMW confirmed that they have the power to remotely lock and unlock their vehicles if they wish to do so. A police report obtained from the incident shows that the responding Seattle officer noted that BMW assistance was called upon to locate the vehicle and remotely lock its doors. The suspect found sleeping inside the BMW and briefly tried to get away when awoken by police. The suspect failed to flee because he couldn’t get the vehicle in gear quickly enough, he was arrested without incident.’

https://www.cnet.com/news/bmw-traps-thief-by-remotely-locking-him-in-car-he-was-stealing/